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British  Government accuses Argentina of harassment...

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/argentine-flag-order-to-liner
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #1 on: Feb 13, 2014, 12:01 PM »
Disgraceful - I trust that there will be a formal complaint from the Foreign Office?
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #2 on: Feb 13, 2014, 01:50 PM »
Thanks, Rob, for posting this article.  What would Argentina do if the ship's captain were RNR and was flying the blue ensign ?
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #3 on: Feb 13, 2014, 01:53 PM »
Exocet, probably...
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #4 on: Feb 13, 2014, 02:11 PM »
It would not be surprising...
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #5 on: Feb 13, 2014, 05:09 PM »
Story picked up by Cruise Critic.

http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=5730
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #6 on: Feb 13, 2014, 07:28 PM »
Should they even be flying that flag? a Bermuda registered ship  ???

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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #7 on: Feb 13, 2014, 09:00 PM »
You would have thought common sence might have come into play and perhaps not tempt fate by flying a flag that might cause some annoyance....
But then its no longer registered as a Brittish ship, and what little links there are left to Britain might only be the Afternoon tea  ;)
Cunard as we know are very good at playing the British links when it suits and playing them down when it doesnt..
The Captain could have easily carried on flying the flag and paid the fine on point of principle or done what Captain Arnott did in Yalta, about turn and sail away ... and give the old fashioned two finger salute :o.
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #8 on: Feb 14, 2014, 12:06 AM »
Should they even be flying that flag? a Bermuda registered ship  ???

Any ship registered in the United Kingdom, a Crown Dependency or a British Overseas Territory has the right to fly the Red Ensign. In eight of the BOTs (including Bermuda), you are also able to fly a defaced Red Ensign with the Coat of Arms of that territory/dependency.

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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #9 on: Feb 14, 2014, 09:22 AM »
Exocet, probably...
Fortunately they can't afford them at the moment which is why they are doing cheap things such as the anti British ships campaign.

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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #10 on: Feb 14, 2014, 10:05 AM »
I remember reading that one of the P&O ships had cancelled Argentina ports of call last year, which had angered passengers.  But this situation with Queen Victoria is even worse as the Argentinian authorities are happy for the passengers to be spending their money onshore but denied the right for the ship to fly the ensign. 

What a pity the Captain did not up anchor and sail away!
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #11 on: Feb 14, 2014, 05:05 PM »
Yes, I think perhaps the Captain should have sailed away playing Rule Brittania the whole way !  June
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #12 on: Feb 14, 2014, 08:42 PM »
Fully agree Cunard Queen & June, he should've had a plan B, (after all plan A didn't work did it!!)  maybe if Rosie is still onboard she could give us an update.

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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #13 on: Feb 14, 2014, 09:11 PM »
Yes, let's hope to hear from Rosie !
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Re: Queen Victoria told to lower Red Ensign in Buenos Aires
« Reply #14 on: Feb 15, 2014, 02:41 PM »
If Lady Cornwall writing in the letters column in today's Telegraph is correct, the UK sends £27 million in aid to Argentina. Evidently they are very grateful for this generosity!

 

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