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Online Peter Mugridge

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Cabin numbering
« on: Feb 03, 2010, 11:31 PM »
Looking at the deck plans, particularly on 5 deck adjacent cabins are not consecutively numbered; although there is some logical progression of lower to higher numbers from bow to stern, I am wondering why the numbers do seem to "jump about" a bit.

Surely it would have been easier to find the way round if numbering was strictly in a progressive order?
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #1 on: Feb 04, 2010, 12:12 AM »
I'll have to look at my QM deck plans to see if there is the same thing.

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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #2 on: Feb 04, 2010, 08:07 AM »
Have never noticed, will have a look at my deck plans when home from work later, gotta fly out the door now!
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #3 on: Feb 04, 2010, 11:37 AM »
Peter, a good find!

And ancoaster78 will have more helpful info, too!

The cabin numbering that you refer to - is it the 2007 version, here?
http://www.cunard.co.uk/QEliz2_2007_Flash/deckplans.html

Over the years, some cabin numbers have ceased to exist!
For example - 5009 doesn't appear in the 2007 plan (see link above)
However in Captain R W Warwick's 'QE2 : The Cunard Line Flagship...'
cabin 5009 is squeezed in next to 5007 (1985 / 1999, 3rd Ed)

Perhaps changes were made too -  before the Falklands campaign?
Possibly at the time of refits and when the bathrooms were changed?
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #4 on: Feb 04, 2010, 11:56 AM »
Yes, I'm looking at the 2007 plan - though 5 deck is still virtually "as built" isn't it?

On the other decks, the cabin numbering seems very logical, odds on starboard and evens on port, sequentially.  It's only when you get to the inside cabins on 4 deck that the system starts to look untidy, and 5 deck is a complete illogical mess, to be honest.
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #5 on: Feb 04, 2010, 12:15 PM »
Hello!
About some other changes - take a look at bathtub rooms!
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,1015.0.html
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #6 on: Feb 04, 2010, 12:27 PM »
Yes, the 5 deck numbering does seem to conform to that, but only in a very loose way.  On the other decks that is a much clearer rule.
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #7 on: Feb 04, 2010, 04:47 PM »
From what I can see there is very little change to the cabin numbering other than the sequence gaps from the rooms that no longer exist.  I compared the 2006 deck plan with 1969 original cabin numbering.

To see the 1969 deck plans go to http://rmsqueenelizabeth2.com, click on "Bridge" at the top (2nd from the left in the red bar), look for the "Interactive Deck Plans 1969:" and select "One - Five Decks".  Once you are done playing with all the extremely intriguing features, look at the cabin numbering. 

Here you'll find the cabins' original numbering as well as those that became "lost" over the years.  The numbering system is a traditional naval one where the even numbers are on the port (left) of centerline and odd numbers to starboard (right).  From there the numbering sequence increases from inboard to outboard in transverse (athwartships) rows of cabins. 

A good example is the row of rooms traversing from port to starboard on 5 Deck just aft of A Stairway - 5018-5025. On centerline, port is 5018 and on centerline, starboard is 5021.  On the port side, the even numbers increase as you go outboard with  5018, 5020 and 5022.  The same thing is on the starboard side with 5021, 5023 and 5025 (5019 is the most starboard outboard room in the row just forward of this example).

Confused?  I was too but after 30 years in the US Navy I have it figured out.  Just keep looking at the pattern in the example and cross check it with the deck plans.  It will come.

Two very interesting tidbits I noticed is that cabin numbers on all decks begin with X001 (e.g. 5001, 4001, 3001) instead of X000.  And on every deck there is no X013 (e.g. 5013, 4013, 3013)!!!

Enjoy!
« Last Edit: Feb 04, 2010, 05:24 PM by Bob C. »

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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #8 on: Feb 04, 2010, 04:55 PM »
That link is giving a DNS error?


And thank you for the explanation, so really the messy look of the numbering is simply because there are so many rows of cabins, whereas on the higher decks it's just the two rows?
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #9 on: Feb 04, 2010, 04:56 PM »
That link is giving a DNS error?


And thank you for the explanation, so really the messy look of the numbering is simply because there are so many rows of cabins, whereas on the higher decks it's just the two rows?

No DNS error for me, keep trying.

And you are correct about the cabins.  If there were more inboard cabins on 2 and 1 Deck, you'd see the same "mess".

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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #10 on: Feb 04, 2010, 05:02 PM »
It's working now. :)

Although for me that "bridge" link is on the left, not the right?

Anyway, yes - I can see the differences with the more recent plans, and it's a bit clearer how the numbering was done now that I can see all the original cabins.
« Last Edit: Feb 04, 2010, 05:07 PM by Peter Mugridge »
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #11 on: Feb 04, 2010, 05:07 PM »
Fascinating!

Bob, 
Please - are you able to see from the original deck plans if the Crew cabins
were numbered in the same fashion as the passenger cabins?
and btw! - do you know whether all number ending in xx13 are 
deleted throughout all ships?

If you click on the blue markers on http://rmsqueenelizabeth2.com
you'll find images of some of the Staterooms (and other places besides)
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #12 on: Feb 04, 2010, 05:29 PM »
Although for me that "bridge" link is on the left, not the right?

Oops!  Just corrected that...

Please - are you able to see from the original deck plans if the Crew cabins
were numbered in the same fashion as the passenger cabins?
and btw! - do you know whether all number ending in xx13 are 
deleted throughout all ships?

Rosie, I don't have crew cabins in the plans but would expect they are numbered in the same maritime convention.  Also, don't know about all ships, I'll have to look.  But on QE2 only the X013 are omitted.  There are X113's and X213's.

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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #13 on: Feb 04, 2010, 05:53 PM »
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Rosie, I don't have crew cabins in the plans but would expect they are numbered in the same maritime convention.

Crew cabins are as follow
Cabins on 4 and 5 deck start at x01.Foward cabins are until x49 the aft cabins x50 up
6 decks cabins start at 6001 on the forward section and goes to the higher number aft.Sorry i dont what was the last cabin on 6 deck.
3 deck cabins start at x01 too.Cabins are too numbered even and uneven.We do have cabins x13.
Sorry if theres a mistake somewhere but cabin crew numbers is not what you really look for.As a crew you just seem to what corridor leads where and not really look for a cabin number.You know what i mean?



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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #14 on: Feb 04, 2010, 09:31 PM »
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Over the years, some cabin numbers have ceased to exist!
For example - 5009 doesn't appear in the 2007 plan (see link above)
However in Captain R W Warwick's 'QE2 : The Cunard Line Flagship...'
cabin 5009 is squeezed in next to 5007 (1985 / 1999, 3rd Ed)

Some of the missing cabins were used for onboard entertainers, if you look at recent deck plans they  were mostly located forward,One that springs to mind is the cabin 4001. I was a frequent visitor to cabin 4003 a lovely charming sweet little cabin MO single grade and a few times saw the "occupant" of 4001. Of course my nature was that l always stopped and passed the time of day, and made the excuse how was your cabin, well a quick peep inside told me right away it was a mini home and obviously designed for long term use, even had a mini fridge and then he let slip that he was a travelling entertainer, hence the cabin decorations.

 A member of the ships staff had a passenger cabin on 5 deck near if l recall near  D or E stairway.They confided over dinner one night as host.
 When l was in cabin 3006 MO single, the occupant(s) of both 3002/3004 used to mention the noise level . I wonder if such cabins were removed from service due to the noise levels from the forward cargo hatch?
 Besides  Carnival  did reinstate a number of cabins when they took over Cunard  that had been slowly given over to crew over the years, resulting in increased revenue   
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #15 on: Feb 04, 2010, 09:41 PM »
Does anyone know if there are any deck plans of 6 deck showing crew accom/work areas? I'd love to try and find my last cabin  :)
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #16 on: Feb 04, 2010, 09:42 PM »
Rose,
 Do these pics help, with regard to the crew cabins?
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 04, 2010, 09:44 PM »
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Does anyone know if there are any deck plans of 6 deck showing crew accom/work areas? I'd love to try and find my last cabin 

What cabin are you looking for, l will see what l can do ;)
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #18 on: Feb 04, 2010, 10:30 PM »
Hi Myles, my last cabin was on the port side (with porthole) aft of the hospital and fwd of the engine room. It was a 'corner' cabin where the crew alleyway went athwartships before turning to the left and heading aft (where there used to be a very small crew shower cubicle) and other crew cabins. Hope this isn't too confusing  ???
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Re: Cabin numbering
« Reply #19 on: Feb 04, 2010, 10:41 PM »

On that deck plan of Myles you can see the cabin i lived in for 4 years cabin 404.The cabins 401,403,406,409 ( each cabin is 4 berth ) are night shift cabins.All the way forward of you can see the sinks in the toilets.

The staircase just outside the cabin 404 leads to the back door from the crewbar.

All the other cabins you see are from the barstaff.