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Queen Mary operator files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
« on: Jan 20, 2021, 04:52 PM »
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The entity that operates the Queen Mary in Long Beach filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy this week, throwing the ship’s fate into limbo yet again after several other operators met similar financial troubles over the past five decades.

https://lbpost.com/news/breaking-queen-mary-operator-files-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy
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Re: Queen Mary operator files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
« Reply #1 on: Jan 20, 2021, 04:59 PM »
Sad but not unexpected given the track record, let alone the current world situation. Maybe the City of Long Beach could operate her directly (taking on existing employees etc) or would that be too much to ask? The third party operator route clearly isn't working for the ship and she needs some stability in order to survive in my opinion. It would be a great shame to say the least if mismanagement and politics led to the demise of yet another historic ship in a static role, in particular Queen Mary.
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Re: Queen Mary operator files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
« Reply #2 on: Jan 20, 2021, 05:30 PM »
Sad but not unexpected given the track record, let alone the current world situation. Maybe the City of Long Beach could operate her directly (taking on existing employees etc) or would that be too much to ask? The third party operator route clearly isn't working for the ship and she needs some stability in order to survive in my opinion. It would be a great shame to say the least if mismanagement and politics led to the demise of yet another historic ship in a static role, in particular Queen Mary.

If she was some magnificent world-famous historic building in the center of downtown Long Beach, I wonder if they'd hand it over to a 3rd party to maintain etc.... maybe they do that, I don't know, but its not a good way to go.  Something like this can't just be seen as a simple "does it make money or not" - its more complicated than that.  She's a world-class tourist attraction in the centre of their city, and she needs proper care and attention.
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Re: Queen Mary operator files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
« Reply #3 on: Jan 20, 2021, 09:28 PM »
Now is not alas a good time for any business.  And if it involves guests and travel, well its pretty much screwed anyway just now.
However let it be said Chapter 11 isn't the end of the word, AA did it, It does, however, give some breathing space .
Now as a business, would anyone take Queen Mary on in her present state. If the various surveys are to be believed she could break up and sink at any time.

Look at QE2, for all that money that has been spent, is she losing money or making a handsome profit ? 

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She's a world-class tourist attraction in the centre of their city, and she needs proper care and attention. 
Not sure id say shes in the center of the City, l always found her to be out on a limb in no mans land , you only going there to get to Queen Mary, theres nothing else there. other than what passes as a cruise terminal terminal which only sees one ship a week. There's been road construction on the way there for as along as l can remember. 
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 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

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Re: Queen Mary operator files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
« Reply #4 on: Feb 17, 2021, 01:25 PM »
Historic Queen Mary Is In Dire Straits As Operator Collapses

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By Jason Cochran
02/15/2021, 2:00 PM
January 2021 kept people occupied with a few other news headlines, so you're forgiven if you missed this one: The company that operates the famous and irreplaceable Queen Mary filed for bankruptcy.

https://www.frommers.com/blogs/passportable/blog_posts/historic-queen-mary-is-in-dire-straits-as-operator-collapses
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Re: Queen Mary operator files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy
« Reply #5 on: Feb 17, 2021, 04:26 PM »
I love Bill Cwiklo's comment about "The Mary"


 "The city council and various leaseholders have spent a fortune ruining her,"

 

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