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Re: Virtual QE2 Model
« Reply #100 on: Apr 03, 2021, 10:48 AM »
Starting to get artistic with my model.  I was moving around the room looking for good viewing angles and ran across this one which I entitled "Eerily Empty". 

I'm wondering if this photo reflects what the room must have felt like shortly before the Double Room demolition that made way for the Grand Lounge.

That's quite atmospheric Bob.  As someone who stood in an entirely empty Grand Lounge ten years ago, i can visualise it well.
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« Reply #101 on: Apr 03, 2021, 07:56 PM »
These modelling images are so realistic it is becoming hard to tell what's real and what isn't.

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« Reply #102 on: Apr 03, 2021, 08:50 PM »
These modelling images are so realistic it is becoming hard to tell what's real and what isn't.

Thanks Pete.  I agree and can hardly wait to start on the Lookout Bar just to see how it looks rendered. It’s the public room I remember least (I was 9 when I was last in it). However, there’s a few things left on the Double Room to finish.

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« Reply #103 on: Apr 09, 2021, 09:05 PM »
Does anyone know of a photo of the face of this piece of equipment? 

Is/was there a proper name for it as well? 

I'm ramping up research for the Lookout Bar. I pretty much have photos of the main features (time will tell) except for the orange navigation display. I have several photos of it from various and good angles but none that show what is on the display faces.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

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« Reply #104 on: Apr 09, 2021, 09:52 PM »
Does anyone know if the very 60's cool looking navigation display was saved?
Definitely looks like it should be in a Museum somewhere.....

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Re: Virtual QE2 Model
« Reply #105 on: Apr 09, 2021, 11:22 PM »
I found this on this website....

Quote from: https://www.roblightbody.com/qe2-in-1969.html
The bar has a microfilm reader which a passenger can switch on to read a chart of the area through which the ship is passing.

We also have a dedicated topic for the lookout bar
https://theqe2story.com/forum/index.php?topic=6108.0
« Last Edit: Apr 09, 2021, 11:27 PM by Rob Lightbody »
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« Reply #106 on: Yesterday at 08:54 AM »
The bright red Chart Reader showed the charts of the areas to which QE2 would travel and could be switched on and off by passengers. The Pedestal incorporated a Gyro Repeater and Clock (by Sperry) and a microfilm unit for charts and was mostly a decorative feature. It was the creation of Theo Crosby from the Crosby / Fletcher / Forbes combination who began work on it as early as 1967 - even then Cunard's Naval Architect Dan Wallace was complaining about its planned location within the Lookout Bar as the feature affected the window closing arrangement and wanted it relocated. To accommodate the pedestal in its position alterations had to be made to the air-conditioning inlets in the room.

The unit cost itself £850 - £150 for the Gyro repeater from Sperry, £50 for the clock (Convair Time and Electricals), £150 for the microfilm reader (Electrosonics) while the casting by Kent Alloys cost £415 and the fitting out and finishing in stove enamel £85. There were additional costs to be be paid to the builders for re-wriring and other alterations to the room which included provision of a cooling air inlet, a power connection and a connection from the Bridge for the Gyro repeater and all of this would come from under the floor. Total overall cost: £1,250.

All equipment was shipped to Leeds-based company Masons who had won the contract for the Lookout Bar.

There was a debate between the designers and Cunard over who should pay. The designers claimed the equipment was part of the overall technical / navigation package for the ship so it should go to that budget but Cunard insisted it was a decorative element and should come from the £50,000 art budget- and won the argument in December 1967. This was important as the Lookout was the only public room to be exceeding its budget in 1967 (by £8,000). Cunard argued for a more basic room but the designers eventually won and were given an increased budget.

What happened to the Chart Reader after the obliteration of the Lookout in 1972 remains unknown to me.

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« Reply #107 on: Yesterday at 08:56 AM »
Misc Lookout Bar images for you, Bob

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« Reply #108 on: Yesterday at 08:57 AM »
And more
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« Reply #109 on: Yesterday at 09:07 AM »
Wow - incredible amount of detail for Bob's model.  Can't wait to see what Bob creates.
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« Reply #110 on: Yesterday at 11:52 AM »
Incredible detail about the Lookout Bar and the Chart Reader - fantastic Michael!  Lovely to be able to see exactly what it did.

Is it possible that not a single photo exists of it in action?

Imagine if it was found, completely intact somewhere... what would you pay for it?

Moderator Note - I think we need to copy Michael's content about the Lookout Bar to its own topic (there must be one already!) and perhaps the Chart Reader even needs its own topic??
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« Reply #111 on: Yesterday at 12:33 PM »
Boom!!! Jackpot!!!

Thanks so much Michael.  This detail is incredible.  Actual dimensions of the navigation repeater as well! Dimensions are always preferred but rarely found, at least so far.

Thanks again.  I’m hoping to start the room in a few weeks.

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« Reply #112 on: Yesterday at 02:01 PM »
Moderation Note : Michael had attached a very high quality TIF file that wasn't showing up correctly.  I have converted this to a JPG and its now showing (last photo in Reply #108 above)
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« Reply #113 on: Yesterday at 04:03 PM »
Not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth but does anyone know what the Lookout Bar entry doors looked like?  Short of a photo, I will make them the same as the Britannia Restaurant doors.  I figure the decor would be balanced like that since it shares a common “lobby” - aka Stairway A landing on Upper Deck.

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« Reply #114 on: Yesterday at 05:35 PM »
These images for the lookout bar are incredible!
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« Reply #115 on: Today at 06:24 PM »
Michael, do you know if the orange/red section on the floor in the bottom of this photo is a ramp? 

The deck plan shows two steps there as well as on both the port and stbd sides.  I don’t recall a ramp being there but then again, I don’t remember the two steps either.
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« Reply #116 on: Today at 08:41 PM »
It looks like a ramp to me.
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