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Re: Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #20 on: Nov 15, 2020, 03:04 PM »
All efforts to get even limited cruising going again, seem to be coming to nothing - SeaDream 1 is the latest affected.  "The Points guy" is on the cruise and has posted the following (in order)

Why I’m about to get on a cruise ship. This week. Really
https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/cruise-writer-returns-to-cruising/

I just boarded the first cruise ship to sail in the Caribbean since March. This is what the process was like
https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/first-caribbean-cruise-seadream-boarding-process/

Surprisingly normal: What it’s like on board the first Caribbean cruise since March
https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/first-seadream-caribbean-cruise-onboard/

The first cruise ship to resume sailing in the Caribbean is having a COVID scare
https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/caribbean-cruise-covid-scare-seadream/

More passengers test positive for COVID on Caribbean cruise ship
https://thepointsguy.co.uk/news/more-passengers-test-positive-for-covid-on-caribbean-cruise-ship/

For the cruise industry, as for many others, the vaccine can't come soon enough.
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Re: Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #21 on: Nov 16, 2020, 10:47 AM »
As mentioned in the previous post, what was meant to be a test case for the entire cruise industry, has not gone well at all, and there's lots of criticism aimed at the cruise company.

https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2020/11/articles/disease/seadream-cruise-guests-flown-from-barbados-to-airports-around-the-world/

https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2020/11/articles/disease/seadreams-caribbean-cruise-champagne-caviar-and-covid-19/
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Re: Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #22 on: Nov 16, 2020, 05:40 PM »
Ah how lovely to hear about the old Sea Goddess 1/Seabourn Goddess 1 again!!!

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« Reply #23 on: Nov 16, 2020, 08:25 PM »
Well my wife and her brothers are going on a 5 or 7 day next August.....if things seem safe.

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Re: Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #24 on: Dec 09, 2020, 11:24 PM »
Well they've tried again, too early, and failed again.

The Guardian: Singapore 'cruise to nowhere' ends after passenger tests positive for Covid-19.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/09/singapore-cruise-to-nowhere-ends-after-passenger-tests-positive-for-covid-19
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Re: Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #25 on: Dec 09, 2020, 11:32 PM »
It gets worse, because the test was a false positive, and the passenger tested negative on land.

All this took place out of Singapore, which is free from COVID-19 and extremely strict with arrivals into the country. Only Singaporeans were on the cruise. The crew of the ship had to quarantine for 14 days before the cruise, all for nothing.

It just shows, as you say, Rob, that it is too early. Nerves are still on edge, and the slightest problem can lead to a crisis.

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Re: Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #26 on: Dec 31, 2020, 12:26 AM »
And then there is this!

Amazingly a lot of crew have said the companies treated them well and want to go back!

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-cruise-ship-suicides/

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Re: Cruising and Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #27 on: Jan 11, 2021, 12:10 PM »
The attached is from an hour ago.

Quite interesting.

Forcing people to have vaccines is frowned upon by many...
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Re: Cruising and Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #28 on: Jan 11, 2021, 06:31 PM »
The attached is from an hour ago.

Quite interesting.

Forcing people to have vaccines is frowned upon by many...

The woman is a complete idiot, probably voted for Trump though so understandable!

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Re: Cruising and Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #29 on: Jan 11, 2021, 07:28 PM »
Forcing people to have vaccines is frowned upon by many...

Since you posted this image, I have thought about it a bit. I do agree with the general approach, that requiring vaccinations in certain situations is a good idea, and I would be happy to comply and feel safe if everybody else did.

My initial thought was also that, if you do not want to be vaccinated, you could simply stay away from situations that require proof of vaccination. This could apply to cruises, for example. But as for flights, I can think of many situations where it will be necessary to fly, once some sort of normality returns. Visit to an elderly or ailing relative for example, a family occasion such as a wedding or funeral, or even a business trip.

I did think then that not everybody might be able to comply. For instance, in many countries of the world, the vaccines are being rolled out very slowly, if they have even arrived at all. Are we going to exclude residents of these countries from flying for instance? And again, it is possible that some people, for some medical reason or other, may not be able to take the vaccine. How do we distinguish them from the anti-vaxers? And again, in some countries, the vaccine being dispensed has not been approved by the European or American authorities. Do we then accept or turn back people vaccinated with the Russian vaccine for example?

As so often, the devil is in the details...

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Re: Cruising and Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #30 on: Jan 12, 2021, 01:43 AM »
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Forcing people to have vaccines is frowned upon by many...   
It is, And if you don't have it, You don't travel. 

However, Kudos to Morrisons supermarket for insisting masks be worn in the store, and those with  a medical condition l believe. are asked to prove they are exempt  There is far too much of this attitude "im not wearing a mask and l l wont "

A close friend works in a major supermarket, every day she has horror stories of dealing with the public. The staff are not allowed to question or refuse service to the public. The public by and large these days never hear the word NO, And its about time they were told No to somethings.  The attitude of Management is profits profits profits, and if you are not happy , the vacant position will be filled right away. Shocking, Hard to believe and quite insulting, But alas its the truth. Of course management will deny this .  I'm all for everyone having the vaccine  required in these times. I do however think that only having opening times from 8am to 8pm is pretty lame.  If the Government are so concerned it should be made available 6am to midnight and stagger the times, at least they are planning on having the various sites open Seven days a week.

When the curfew was on l went into work one night at 11pm just before Christmas to find people still in the bar. The staff and a member of Management  were  tying to get them out. l had no hesitation whatso ever in going through the bar are removing full glasses of alcohol from customers who l knew, then l closed the bar shutters , and told eveyone Please leave right now. Thankyou ,Good Night and Merry Christmas and dimmed the lights  there were shouts of oh one more drink, of dont be so hard. l got the two members of staff and all l asked was they collect three glasses and away they go home. People just didn't believe it was the law and we are required to shut. I received a few comments that oh im phoning your boss about this, My reply, Please go ahead but leave NOW . The public at times just do not get it. Its really quite infuriating and if truth be told pretty sad !

I fully support and wish that all bars were closed during this pandemic, l have no sympathy for the bleating masses that oh need a pint for social circumstances. Alcohol and social distancing just does not work, Dealing with drunks is never easy and right now when pubs are having rules changed frequently only makes the job harder. And scenes outsides pubs at closing times with the masses is just sickening.         

   
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Re: Cruising and Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #31 on: Jan 12, 2021, 06:24 AM »
Good for you, Myles! And I also think that people who, for medical reasons, cannot wear masks, should probably not be out shopping during a pandemic. There are many people of goodwill who would offer do the shopping for them. I have also discovered that a surprising number of businesses can deliver directly to one's home.

As for the airlines, I have recent experience that they comply very strictly with the rules and regulations. At the start of my one and only flight since the pandemic, seven passengers were turned away and their baggage removed from the hold, as they had not complied with the conditions laid down by our destination country.

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Re: Cruising and Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #32 on: Jan 12, 2021, 11:50 AM »
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  And I also think that people who, for medical reasons, cannot wear masks, should probably not be out shopping during a pandemic. 

 Here here ! There is an element of society that alas has the lanyards as a badge of Honour and are quite happy to flout it in your face knowing full well there is very little you can do ( there is very little we can do, we are not allowed to ask for proof of illness ) But if they thought about it, wearing a mask would protect OTHERS .  If as it seems the non wearers always seem to start coughing when its mentioned, that is further proof  that THEY need to wear a face covering.
The neighbour is one of those who refuses to wear a mask and was quite proud of it, hes now in isolation , while l would not wish illness upon anyone.... :-X :-X
There is always a debate about how useless they are for protection , There might also be the same debate about how seatbelts will not save everyone, but they offer protection.  Think its best if l stop my rant.
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Re: Cruising and Coronavirus - How to get going again?
« Reply #33 on: Jan 12, 2021, 06:54 PM »
Very well said, Myles, and I totally agree with you on all counts !!

There are many people out there, who have no sense of personal responsibility !
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