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Offline Fairfield

The Anstruther charter, 2000
« on: Aug 18, 2009, 08:58 PM »
You have 30 seconds to rearrange these into a well known ship........
« Last Edit: Sep 08, 2010, 01:35 PM by Isabelle Prondzynski »
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Offline Fairfield

Countdown-2
« Reply #1 on: Aug 18, 2009, 09:02 PM »
I'm sure you all did well without Carol Vorderman's help. Chocs which were on sale in 2000 on what I thought was her most unusual trip, to Anstruther for the Open Golf at St Andrews.
« Last Edit: Aug 19, 2009, 08:25 AM by ancoaster78 »
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Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Countown-2
« Reply #2 on: Aug 19, 2009, 06:44 AM »
Even I would be able to resist eating these particular chocolate bars -- and that is saying quite something!!

Was the Anstruther trip another charter?

Offline Mauretania1907

Re: Countdown-2
« Reply #3 on: Aug 20, 2009, 05:41 AM »
Wer the chocolates wrapped. I would have eaten them, but the wrappers would have been saved in my files (with yummy memories)

Offline Fairfield

Re: Countdown-2
« Reply #4 on: Aug 21, 2009, 08:30 PM »
Yes, Anstruther was a charter and the chocs were indeed wrapped.
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Re: COuntdown (chocolates)
« Reply #5 on: Aug 23, 2009, 02:23 PM »
i was there in Astruther that day.  There were large crowds and QE2 looked amazing out in the sunshine.

People were thinking she didn't look very big, but she seemed to be an oddly long way out.

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Offline Fairfield

Re: Countdown (chocolates) from Anstruther, 2000
« Reply #6 on: Aug 23, 2009, 09:19 PM »
Yes, there was a problem with depth of water and the launches couldn't enter the harbour to bring folk back who had gone ashore until quite late. The press blew it out of all proportion as usual.
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Re: The Anstruther Charter, 2000
« Reply #7 on: Sep 08, 2010, 01:09 PM »
This is part of the On Board arrangements.
« Last Edit: Sep 09, 2010, 07:54 AM by Fairfield »
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Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #8 on: Sep 11, 2010, 11:23 AM »
This daily programme looks very similar to that for any other voyage on QE2. I'd love to hear some more about what it was like on board.

Presumably everyone there had come for the golf? Did many of the passengers know each other and had they arranged to do this together?

Were there golf themed lectures on board?

Offline Fairfield

Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #9 on: Sep 13, 2010, 05:42 AM »
Not too sure. There were not very many on board which made it strange having all that space to yourself. She embarked passengers for a return trip to Southampton from Anstruther. I wouldn't say she was at her best for that particular voyage. I don't know what first time travellers would have thought.
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Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #10 on: Sep 14, 2010, 02:20 AM »
We had family friends on this voyage for their first and only QE2 voyage (and cruise), in one of the penthouses.

We haven't talked about it in a while, but I remember them being very impressed with the wine prices, and I believe taking some off the ship for their stock. I also have a postcard, in which it is mentioned that "the bed vibrates without even putting in a quarter!" :-X

I'll have to get more on it next time I see them...see if they have photos...
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Offline Cruisemarsh

Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #11 on: Mar 17, 2011, 11:00 PM »
This daily programme looks very similar to that for any other voyage on QE2. I'd love to hear some more about what it was like on board.

Presumably everyone there had come for the golf? Did many of the passengers know each other and had they arranged to do this together?

Were there golf themed lectures on board?

My late grandad and I were onboard for 2 nights and we sailed from Southampton, had the next morning at sea before arrival in the anchorage off Anstruther around 3pm and stayed the night onboard at anchor.


The ship was less than half full if memory serves me well and it was chartered by Scotia Travel for a the St Andrews Open.
It was strange coming ashore as we only lived 12 miiles up the road in Cupar, Fife......so we could have gone home and back to the ship again. We got a shuttle bus upto St Andrews and caught the tail end of the legends golf match before proceeding to having a walk around the town before getting the bus back to Anstruther.

Next day, we disembarked and picked our luggage up at the local high school as they were using it for luggage storage.


I remember there being a problem with the tides and the tenders not being able to bring back passengers from ashore. Luckily we were back onboard after our little jaunt to St Andrews.
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Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 09:12 AM »
I live in St-Andrews and went to Anstruther for a look at the QE2. The local boat that takes you on trips to the Isle-of- May were offering trips round the liner. The boat was fully booked the evening that we visited, but my son and myself returned the next evening and went for the trip. I had borrowed an old video recorder from a workmate and have made a 35 minute video of the event. I am going to put it on to a disc for safekeeping for the future. I am enclosing a picture of  the tenders in the harbour.

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Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #13 on: Nov 04, 2012, 11:44 AM »
It was certainly the most unusual trip we ever did on QE2.
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Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #14 on: Aug 04, 2016, 02:22 PM »


I remember there being a problem with the tides and the tenders not being able to bring back passengers from ashore. Luckily we were back onboard after our little jaunt to St Andrews.

There was no 'problem' with the tides, tides are tides and nobody, not even Captain Ron Warwick or Scotia Golf can do anything about them, they are what they are and can be predicted years in advance.
Scotia Golf were FULLY aware that there would be long periods of time either side of low water when the harbour was unusable and passengers WERE told in advance of these restriction either side of low water. For safety reasons the tenders were stopped earlier on the falling tide than on the rising tide.

There was an 'interesting' incident involving a group of obnoxious S/African passengers who returned to the jetty demanding that we bring a tender in, on a falling tide, so that they could return to the ship. This we refused to do, so after much verbal abuse and threats of who they would report us to they departed. Shortly afterwards we heard loud voices coming from a small yacht that was sailing out of the harbour, on looking across we say the aforementioned group of S/Africans merrily sailing out of the harbour on a fast shrinking channel. Just after they passed where we were operating the tenders from, the yacht lurched and suddenly stopped - grounded!! Gradually, as the tide dropped, it heeled onto it's side and was stuck fast at an angle of about 30' with our S/African 'chums' clinging on for dear life and 'ordering' us to rescue them! Sadly, not being able to walk on water or mud, we just waved and laughed at them. They were stuck there for several hours, cold, hungry and sobering up slowly!

Basically the whole charter was a farce, not from QE2 or Cunard's point of view but from the total lack or organisational skills and planning from Scotia Golfs side. Even when help and advice was offered it was rejected our of hand. If they, Scotia Golf, got away with only loosing £1m on the charter then i think that they got off lightly!

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Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #15 on: Aug 04, 2016, 04:07 PM »
Welcome, Andy, and what a great story you start with!

It is such a pleasure to read the insight and memory of one who was there and had the last laugh :) ...

Looking forward to reading more of your QE2 stories.

Online Andy Holloway

Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #16 on: Dec 07, 2020, 07:48 PM »
To be honest, you could quite easily write a decent length book on The Scotia Golf Charter to Anstruther for the 2000 Open.

To chose just one incident for the moment, i think i'll go for the big screen TV.

In 2000 a Big Screen TV was not as normal an facility as it is to day 20 years later, so for Scotia golf to get two brought onboard QE2 so that those passengers not wanting to go ashore could watch proceedings onboard, was quite a coup. I can't remember where the 1st was, it could have been the Grand Lounge, but the 2nd was in The Golden Lion bar.
Under normal circumstances there should have been no problems, but this is QE2 and we were at anchor! As such the ship was swinging on her anchor with the tides and therefore although the aerial was positioned correctly for a couple of hours reception, but then the ship would stat to swing on her anchor and the reception would go!!
This meant that the TV lad onboard was constantly having to go and re-tune the TV antenna. After a short while he was getting fed up with this and went to see the Cruise Director telling him that he should go and see the Captain and 'tell him' to use the stern anchor as well so that he didn't have to be constantly going to the TV room!!  There was a rumour onboard that he'd actually gone to see the Captain with his 'request', but i can't confirm or deny that. But what i do know is that you don't 'tell' any Captain of a ship, let alone Captain Warwick, how to run his ship! Suffice to say we continued to swing at anchor and the TV continued to re-tune the antenna with regularity!

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #17 on: Dec 07, 2020, 08:30 PM »
Wonderful story! You could turn this into a series, Andy, and regale us with more stories at regular intervals. Already looking forward to the next one  ;D .

Online Andy Holloway

Re: The Anstruther charter, 2000
« Reply #18 on: Dec 22, 2020, 01:52 PM »
Then of course there was the story about the 'Passenger' who wasn't!

Because Scotia Golf were so inept and pig headed about the allocation of cabins, despite the Ch Purser offering his Staff to help/advice/facilitate the allocation of cabins for them, it got to the point whereby QE2 never really knew who was onboard and who was not!  I must point out at this stage that this was just prior to Cunard installing 'Calm' onboard QE2. 'Calm' was the first passenger tracking/ boarding card system Cunard used and, fortunately, i had been onboard RVS the previous year when in was initially trialed and then successfully installed.
At the time of the Scotia Golf - 2000 Open Charter, all you needed to board was a certain piece of Paper issued by the Purser's Office.

So back to our 'friend';
It was probably the second from last day, so that would have been the Saturday morning at about 0630, when this man appeared at the Purser's Office with his 'bill' in his hand that had appeared under his door overnight. When asked by the Receptionist if there was a problem with the Bill, he said "No, but i'm not going to pay it". This conversation went on for a couple more exchanges, before the Night Hotel Officer [NHO] happened to appear from the back office. When asked again why he wasn't going to pay, the man replied that he actually 'wasn't officially onboard'! He then went on to explain that he had only booked two nights but decided to stay on in his cabin as he, and some friends, were going to have a few drinks together and he couldn't be bothered to leave and drive home the night before.
The NHO asked his name and, when he checked the booking system, could find no record of the man in the cabin involved, but could find him in another, much lower grade cabin, and who had - according to the Scotia Golf records, disembarked the previous day!  With this he turned and wandered off never to be seen again. There was no credit card registered to him in either cabin, and when later that morning the incident was related to Scotia Golf the 'organiser' [i use that term very loosely] just shrugged his shoulders and walked away. The bill was added to the ever increasing Scotia Golf account, by this time i think they had given up on trying to be to top of things. 
At the beginning when passengers were embarking they would allocate them a cabin, but, when people came back to ask for an upgrade or a different cabin for whatever reason, they would just give then a cabin key, the old metal key system was in operation at that time. Then, if people came back again for whatever reason, they just said, 'find yourself a vacant cabin then come back and tell us which one it is'!! Needless to say very few ever did come back, instead staying and enjoying their free upgrade!

However, their incompetence did benefit the crew welfare fund to the tune of a substantial amount of US$ in the form of 'a donation'!
On our return to S'ton it was a quick turnaround then off to NY for a few back to back trannies.

After we'd sailed i was sat in the office when the Duty MAA got a cal from the Reception asking them to open an 'in cabin safe'. Nothing different to any first night out, as despite being asked to leave their safe open, disembarking passengers often didn't. A few minutes later the MAA returned to the office and looking 'shocked', asked me to go back with him to the Cabin. Hmmm strange i thought! This cabin was on 2 Deck on the port side and therefore only a quick walk from the Security Office.
On our arrival the MAA handed me the opening device and stood back. I connected up the opening device to the safe and activated it thereby opening the safe! When  i looked inside i realised why the MAA was 'shocked'! There, right in front of me and in the centre of the safe was a pile of US$!  I checked with the cabin's current passenger if he had put anything i the safe but he confirmed that the safe was locked when he arrived.  He asked what i'd found and i showed him, as a form of Security on my part, if for no other reason. I remarked to him that we usually 'offer' the passenger 50/50 on whatever is in the locked safe, but in this case.... NO!
Together with the MAA as my witness, i immediately took the money to the Ship's Cashier to leave it with him for safe keeping. We spoke to the Ch Purser who also witnessed the money being taken into safe keeping and a receipt issued.
Over the next few days the Ch Purser was unable to establish exactly who had been in that cabin during the Scotia Golf charter, although the Cabin Stewardess did confirm that somebody had slept in that cabin, but she had not seen who it was. The last 'official' occupant had been contacted and confirmed that the safe was open when they left and they had not left 'anything' in it.

When we counted the money, it was in the safe in neat piles of US$ 100/50 & 20 bills and totaled exactly US$8,000.
Th Ch Purser informed Cunard UK then, on our return to S'ton 12 days later, the money was taken ashore and lodged in Mountbatten House for safe keeping.

During the following year's World Cruise, the Ch Purser received a message from Cunard to say that as the statutory 6 months period had elapsed the money then became the property of the finder, in this case Cunard! As such, instead of retaining the money, Cunard had decided to donate it to the QE2 Crew Welfare Fund.

The original of the money was never discovered and, to this day, it remains one of life's many mysterys.




   

 

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