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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #220 on: Jul 22, 2020, 11:32 AM »
While out for my walk last night, I listened to BBC Radio 4's flagship "PM" program.

Once they got finished talking about Russia.... they moved onto COVID-19, of course.  Not to panic anyone, but they were basically saying this is going to be with us all for the rest of our lives - even the youngsters amongst us.  The most optimistic expert said 36 months, but they thought that was unlikely.   Successful vaccines will help, but they won't be a magic solution that makes everything go back to normal.

The program is well worth listening to.

As this "thing" has evolved, we've all evolved with it, and learned to cope in our own ways, bit by bit, day by day.  But taken as a whole, this is really gigantically huge.

The cruise industry will NEVER be the same.  There will be HUGE changes.  And it is unclear when they can properly restart.  The only thing I can possibly see working, is a ship doing trips out of a single country, and not visiting any other country, unless perhaps there is an "sea-bridge" agreement in place, similar to they are doing with the "air bridges" for airplanes - although it remains to be seen if that is a sensible idea or not.

So here's my "hot take"

  • It won't just be small cruise lines that fail, big or even huge ones will too.
  • It won't just be small and older ships getting scrapped, modern ones will too.
  • New builds in process will have to be cancelled, even if underway.  Surely.
  • There is the potential for the entire cruise industry to just become not viable at all, except perhaps the ultra luxury small ships
  • Even if they get ships going again, many many people, myself included, will simply not want to be trapped in a steel air-conditioned box with thousands of other people.  I think for me I will probably not cruise again.
  • Speaking as a Brit, I think Brexit is an utter disaster, however I am trying to think of ways to make the best of it now.  And one way would be for us to turn our hand to ship recycling pronto...
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #221 on: Jul 22, 2020, 01:22 PM »
All I can say....with the virus, Carnival taking over, world security situation etc. etc..... I am glad I got out when I did!

This thing? will also affect tourism on land. I know from having 2 of my family working for " The Mouse" . My daughter is back at work in Disney World, at "Frozen" and it is a totally different experience. A lot of the shows are still not being put on because Equity and Disney cannot agree on safety items. I have been to DW since it reopened and it is just not the same!
Wife is still not back at work, but, she works at Disney Vacation Club, Disney's time share. When she does go back it will probably be from home.
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Re: Coronavirus : General discussion
« Reply #222 on: Jul 25, 2020, 01:09 PM »
‘We were the luckiest people in the world’: our month on the last lockdown cruise

On 1 March, photographer Jon Tonks left New Zealand on a Pacific cruise. Twenty eight days later, the boat docked in San Diego, amid a pandemic. What happened in between?

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2020/jul/25/luckiest-people-in-the-world-month-on-last-lockdown-cruise
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Aboard the Diamond Princess, a Case Study in Aerosol Transmission

A computer model of the cruise-ship outbreak found that the virus spread most readily in microscopic droplets light enough to linger in the air.

The New York Times: Aboard the Diamond Princess, a Case Study in Aerosol Transmission.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/health/diamond-princess-coronavirus-aerosol.html
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Mein Schiff 2 has gone back on a first cruise, three days out of Hamburg with no port calls. This is how life on board looks now. Tempted?


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Thanks Isabelle for posting.

Tempted? Gosh! No way, ever...

Who would spend (lots of) hard-earned money on something like that?

Sorry, cruise lines. Certainly not me.


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Regarding that video who wants to have to take their phone on a cruise??
My idea of cruising is to get away from everyday life, PHONE NO, I might take an iPad for reading though! ;D ;D

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Friends of mine have recently taken a couple of ferries from Italy back to their home in Crete (Greece). They said that, apart from the normal precautions such as masks and sanitisers, these ferries were operating much as usual, and there seemed to be no reduction in their schedule.

They are not ship lovers and use the ferries simply as a mode of transport, but these were their observations when I asked.

 

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