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« Reply #200 on: Jun 10, 2020, 03:51 PM »
Although it is sad to see so many ships out of action, this video did make me chuckle just a little bit...


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« Reply #201 on: Jun 10, 2020, 03:56 PM »
Great find, Olivia! Ships dancing around their anchors, looking cheerful.

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« Reply #202 on: Jun 10, 2020, 06:32 PM »
Have just seen Aurora anchored in Bournemouth/Poole Bay, she sailed here from Dover, arriving this morning as far as the Marine Traffic app states. Marella Explorer (formerly a Celebrity ship - Galaxy I think) is anchored off the Needles which is very unusual for any ship to do. Marella Explorer is way too far from suitable land for crew repatriation compared to Aurora who's tenders will be able to easily go in and out of Poole Harbour if indeed that's why she's here at all?

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #204 on: Jun 13, 2020, 05:17 PM »
If this comes out as a duplicate post, I'm sorry!

Boris sent me this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020-zaandam-pariah-ship/?utm_medium=deeplink

I just listened to this while having my twice-weekly session on my exercise bike.  Its a brilliant and well written piece, thanks for sharing. 

Amazing really, if you'd heard this just 7 months ago, you'd have thought it was a fictional story and couldn't possibly happen. 

Having said that, with all the background reading I'd done from good news sources, I wouldn't have gone on a cruise at the time the people in the story on the Zandam did - in fact it was the end of January when I decided that nobody should be going anywhere. 

I'm not saying the passengers were silly to go, but I am saying that the cruise companies totally failed them.  Worse than that, the cruise companies failed their crews too.  By continuing to deal with passengers, the crew also got infected, some died, and some are still to this day stuck on cruise ships all over the world and unable to get home.  Heads should roll, they really should.  Had the ships stopped and been laid up safely in February or even early March, things would have been so much better.  They did not do enough.

The information was out there and any government, or Bill Gates, could have told that everyone knew a pandemic was coming, they just didn't know when.
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« Reply #205 on: Jun 14, 2020, 10:36 AM »
Had to laugh the other day when Aurora departed Dover - her destination was GB-POO.
My first thought was, she is not the only ship that is really in it!

The Zaandam story - this was very interesting, and high-lighted how little realisation some cruise companies had with regard to coping with the situation. Or, was it, as always, a case of $$ first? My wife & I are still awaiting our refund from Carnival Australia (Cunard) for our cancelled Alaska cruise. We were very lucky we hadn't paid for the airfares or Canadian Rockies rail trip at that time.
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« Reply #206 on: Jun 15, 2020, 01:55 PM »
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/tourism-cruises/article243398711.html

Thousands of crew members are still stuck at sea more than two months after the cruise industry shut down amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
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CMV might actually be in trouble.

Cruise and Maritime Voyages in emergency talks after potential loan deal collapses

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/17/cruise-and-maritime-voyages-emergency-talks-loan-deal-collapses
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CMV might actually be in trouble.

Cruise and Maritime Voyages in emergency talks after potential loan deal collapses

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/17/cruise-and-maritime-voyages-emergency-talks-loan-deal-collapses

Very sad state of affairs regarding CMV's ship detentions and financial troubles. Things must be at breaking point and I don't think they'll be the last company either to go this way :(
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #209 on: Jun 22, 2020, 10:26 AM »
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200622_03/

The opening ceremony of the Tokyo International Cruise Terminal, originally planned to take place just ahead of the start of the Summer Olympics, has been postponed, as the Olympics themselves also have. No cruise ships are expected in the foreseeable future.

A new opening date is tentatively envisaged for September, but will depend on circumstances at that time.

Personally, I wonder whether this will take away from Yokohama, which so far has been Tokyo's main port and which itself must be suffering from the absence of cruise ships.

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« Reply #210 on: Jun 22, 2020, 10:56 AM »
I've just been reading that the Fred Olsen fleet is now laid up in Rosyth in Scotland - in the Babcock facility.

Does anyone know if they're in cold or warm layup?  Having followed QE2s layup for so long I find it interesting.  I'm guessing they must now be in minimal warm layup exactly like QE2 was?
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #211 on: Jun 25, 2020, 10:33 AM »
Queen Victoria providing a backdrop as people start to come out to play again

https://twitter.com/CoastalJJuk/status/1275741075693539328
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« Reply #212 on: Jul 02, 2020, 01:37 PM »
All at Sea on ITV  (UK) at 9.00pm July 2nd,  evening  (this evening)

https://www.ft.com/content/465590e2-b49b-11ea-8ecb-0994e384dffe

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QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for what seemed like ages...Please don't leave her looking more like a Hotel-with-a-Hull than the greatest Liner afloat - Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.


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« Reply #214 on: Jul 09, 2020, 04:19 PM »
Interesting to see Hebridean Cruises have just moved this years cruises forward to next year.
I do wonder just how many more Passengers and cruise companies  will consider more of around the UK cruises ?
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« Reply #215 on: Jul 09, 2020, 05:02 PM »
https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/200-000-seafarers-fear-there-s-no-plan-to-get-15396336.php

Thanks for posting.

"It's sad we are treated this way, unrecognized, forgotten as second-class citizens"

I feel indeed very sad for all the crew members still waiting for repatriation. This is an inhuman and intolerable situation.

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« Reply #216 on: Jul 09, 2020, 05:54 PM »
Rod - Thank you for posting - there have been several similar articles posted by the maritime press /media  regarding the concerns for the mental health of crew who have been stuck on ships for months over their due disembarkation dates.
Queen Victoria's remaining crew who were well over-due to return home, left during the last week of May - a skeleton crew with Senior officers remain on board.
I guess it will be several months before the ships are ready to take on passengers - the EU have released Guidelines for Post Covid cruise ships.
Some of the most inappropriate places to be at the moment - are the cruise line pages on Facebook - it seems as if the passengers can only think in terms of getting refunds, rather than taking time to spare good thoughts for the crew members yet to be repatriated after nearly a year at sea - with no port visits and no days off.
 
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #217 on: Jul 09, 2020, 08:12 PM »
Interesting to see Hebridean Cruises have just moved this years cruises forward to next year.
I do wonder just how many more Passengers and cruise companies  will consider more of around the UK cruises ?

I think cruises that only deal with one country's people will be popular.  You can see AIDA have started this already in Germany.
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« Reply #218 on: Jul 20, 2020, 10:00 PM »
Very sad news about CMV going into administration today.

A perfectly successful company, until this...

https://twitter.com/BBCDouglasF/status/1285289646667247616
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« Reply #219 on: Jul 20, 2020, 10:53 PM »
I was just thinking.

It really is a shame, because I think they stood a good chance of making a fairly quick recovery compared to others. Small ships sticking to a smaller region sounds perfect for these times. Compared to an oasis class ship with 6000 passengers which just fills me with horror
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