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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #140 on: Apr 20, 2020, 02:03 PM »
This is a more upbeat article.

Coronavirus journey: The 'last cruise ship on Earth' finally comes home

The three last cruise ships still sailing with passengers will dock today - and one has had quite the odyssey.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52350262
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #141 on: Apr 21, 2020, 04:50 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #142 on: Apr 21, 2020, 06:45 PM »
She is down to around 8 knots, passing the IoW off Ventnor. Probably just stretching her legs, as QV has been doing, before returning to Southampton.
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #143 on: Apr 21, 2020, 09:48 PM »
Hi Thomas,
Isn’t she moving so as to try and keep her hull clear of barnacles.
Once growing, they slow down the ship, and cause a great deal of expense fuel-wise.
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for what seemed like ages...Please don't leave her looking more like a Hotel-with-a-Hull than the greatest Liner afloat - Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #144 on: Apr 22, 2020, 03:46 AM »
Hi Thomas,
Isn’t she moving so as to try and keep her hull clear of barnacles.
Once growing, they slow down the ship, and cause a great deal of expense fuel-wise.

That could be one reason, although I'd imagine that would be more of an issue in warmer waters such as in Dubai (as evidenced by QE2's underwater hull, albeit in a static role).
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #145 on: Apr 22, 2020, 08:11 AM »
Hi Thomas,
Isn’t she moving so as to try and keep her hull clear of barnacles.
Once growing, they slow down the ship, and cause a great deal of expense fuel-wise.

Having sailed half way around the world to get home, I'd expect that she would have shed far more rubbish off her hull than a few hours sailing up and down the Channel.

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #146 on: Apr 22, 2020, 12:26 PM »
Cluster infection on the Costa Atlantica in Nagasaki.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200422_33/

She is undergoing repairs there and has 623 crew on board, but no passengers. 33 of the crew members have so far tested positive.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/04/22/national/nagasaki-coronavirus-cruise/?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_23_04_2020)#.XqC4kS97H6A

Note also the last paragraph, mentioning the Diamond Princess going back into service...

Update on 26 April : More infections on board the Costa Atlantica.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/04/25/national/coronavirus-outbreak-cruise-ship-nagasaki/?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_26_04_2020)#.XqYhMy-w36A
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #147 on: Apr 22, 2020, 01:03 PM »
Watching Queen Mary 2 wandering around in the sunshine with no passengers is making me want to be on board more than anything.
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #148 on: Apr 22, 2020, 11:08 PM »
I wonder whether the fact that crews are now usually of such mixed nationalities complicates matters too... In one of the cases mentioned above somewhere (apologies for not remembering where...), it became a real problem to help all of them make their way back home, when each country had different regulations about incoming air traffic and many airports were closed altogether.

Would it make things easier if crew members were mostly recruited from one country or a much smaller number of countries?

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #149 on: Apr 23, 2020, 01:00 AM »
One particulate reference was to crew from India as the borders were closed.  I do not know if they are still closed.
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #150 on: Apr 23, 2020, 11:55 AM »
Watching Queen Mary 2 wandering around in the sunshine with no passengers is making me want to be on board more than anything.

I know it isnt an option but wouldnt it be good to get QM2 out into open water and "give her the beans"?
See what she can do 17yrs after her original trials!

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #151 on: Apr 23, 2020, 03:20 PM »
So what can they now do with the 3 ships, Tie them up and turn the engines off, deep clean them ? or just what do you do with ships with no passengers?

   
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #152 on: Apr 23, 2020, 04:14 PM »
The Ruby Princess has just departed Port Kembla (Aussie) with over 200 'mild' cases of the virus on board, heading for Manila, where there are already 6 large cruise ships anchored (including 3 Princess ships and Queen Elizabeth). Queen Elizabeth's Alaskan cruises have just been cancelled - we were doing that one in July, but cancelled 5 weeks back. P&O Australia are refunding our dollars in 4 weeks (so they say).

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be closer to the end of the year or even next before cruising slowly starts getting underway again - all very well to fill a ship with healthy passengers and go sailing off on a cruise, but what happens if some passengers unknowingly contract the virus in the first port of call and bring it back aboard? And the world suddenly has another 'Ruby Princess' on it's hands? The cruise company would have some serious explaining to do. It is nice being retired, but I don't want to become just another statistic!

About three years ago I was on a ship with 60 crew. One flew in from Europe to join, and unknowingly bought the measles with him. He was quickly isolated, and the next morning the remainder of his department turned too with red felt-tip dots plastered all over their faces! We had to feel sorry for him, but had to laugh as well - we weren't dealing with a possible fatality.
We were at sea for 6 weeks (seismic ship) and he spent the entire time locked in his cabins - when he had spent a week in one, we then put him in the cabin next door, then incinerated all his bedding from the first one. Fortunately, we had lots of bedding!

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #153 on: Apr 24, 2020, 08:30 PM »
Having sailed half way around the world to get home, I'd expect that she would have shed far more rubbish off her hull than a few hours sailing up and down the Channel.

In follow up to this, I have seen on social media that at least some of the cruise ships are leaving port or their anchorages in order to make fresh water, which of course has several vital uses onboard. I would imagine this is what QM2 has done on her brief foray besides "stretching her legs" so to speak.
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #154 on: Apr 27, 2020, 07:56 AM »
The Ruby Princess has just departed Port Kembla (Aussie) with over 200 'mild' cases of the virus on board, heading for Manila, where there are already 6 large cruise ships anchored (including 3 Princess ships and Queen Elizabeth).

The plight of a musician stuck on board the Ruby Princess...

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/irish-musician-stuck-on-cruise-ship-in-sydney-feels-forgotten-1.4232525?

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #156 on: Apr 27, 2020, 03:40 PM »
https://apnews.com/1534addd5ef237377acd1b46ffa81e95
Well done to the teenagers!

Wow! They'll not forget that in a hurry!
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #157 on: Apr 27, 2020, 08:42 PM »
A Cruise Liner Captain’s Perspective on Recent Events

Commodore Christopher Rynd (retired) is the Chairman of The Nautical Institute, SE Australia.

https://www.maritime-executive.com/editorials/a-cruise-liner-captain-s-perspective-on-recent-events
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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #158 on: Apr 30, 2020, 02:00 PM »
In follow up to this, I have seen on social media that at least some of the cruise ships are leaving port or their anchorages in order to make fresh water, which of course has several vital uses onboard. I would imagine this is what QM2 has done on her brief foray besides "stretching her legs" so to speak.

Hi Thomas

Just as a matter of interest - as well as increasing the water supply, don't the ships also need to sail so that the hull is kept free from barnacles etc?
Anything stuck to the hull can slow the speed and cost more in fuel as well as time...
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« Reply #159 on: Apr 30, 2020, 06:21 PM »
Hi Thomas

Just as a matter of interest - as well as increasing the water supply, don't the ships also need to sail so that the hull is kept free from barnacles etc?
Anything stuck to the hull can slow the speed and cost more in fuel as well as time...
See you soon!
Rosie

Probably, but as Andy mentioned above a short jaunt out to sea mostly tootling about at low speed likely won't be as effective as sailing at the usual passage speeds for 100s or 1000s of nautical miles, but it would be better than nothing I'd imagine.
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