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As I type this, 6000 people are locked down on board Costa Smeralda in Italy, due to their being sick passengers on board who had visited Wuhan.  They only boarded on the 25th.

Thinking it through, they really need to quarantine the whole ship for 2 weeks.  However if any passenger subsequently does show symptoms, that 2-week incubation starts again - another 2 weeks - and so on, so they'd better hope that confining those poor passengers to quarters works...  Also the ship had already visited a number of ports during the cruise...

I have fairly rapidly come to the conclusion that cruising isn't really possible at the current time, and I'm not the only one - Carnival shares are down 7% already.   
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Re: Coronavirus : 6000 locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #1 on: Jan 30, 2020, 04:24 PM »
Scary situation.  Most likely, other ships will also be affected. 
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Re: Coronavirus : 6000 locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #2 on: Jan 30, 2020, 09:50 PM »
I remember on one med cruise on QE2 there were a few passengers suffering from l guess the noro virus . One passenger was opposite me on 3 deck , his cabin had been cleaned and he had the view he had paid a lot of money for the cruise and wasnt going to be confined to his cabin for several days .
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Re: Coronavirus : 6000 locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #4 on: Feb 04, 2020, 09:06 PM »
Another cruise ship affected : Diamond Princess this time, quarantined in Yokohama.

https://japantoday.com/category/national/Japan-begins-screening-3-700-cruise-ship-passengers-and-crew-in-Yokohama?

Yes indeed, this is not an easy time for cruise ships... not flights, I would imagine.

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Re: Coronavirus : 6000 locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #5 on: Feb 05, 2020, 07:01 AM »
Another cruise ship affected : Diamond Princess this time, quarantined in Yokohama.

Not looking good. They're all confined to their cabins...  Cruise ships are a unique problem... Lots of people, altogether, travelling from place to place...  I'd be wondering if the air conditioning can spread it from cabin to cabin...

Coronavirus: cruise ship carrying 3,700 quarantined in Japan after 10 test positive

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/05/coronavirus-cruise-ship-carrying-3700-quarantined-in-japan-after-10-test-positive

https://twitter.com/PrincessCruises/status/1224847799885402112
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Re: Coronavirus : 6000 locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #6 on: Feb 05, 2020, 08:53 AM »
The suspected passengers had the flu, and everyone has now disembarked.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/30/6000-passengers-stuck-on-cruise-ship-in-italy-over-coronavirus-fears

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/01/30/coronavirus-costa-cruise-ship-passengers-held-onboard-amid-tests/4618718002/

They are right to follow the proper protocols...

Oh to have been nearby on the jetty  to witness the Mayor and Harbour Master having their heated argument, arms everywhere!

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Re: Coronavirus : 6000 locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #7 on: Feb 05, 2020, 11:08 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 05, 2020, 01:13 PM »
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I'd be wondering if the air conditioning can spread it from cabin to cabin...
Good point there Rob, I remember from my time working on ships the incredible speed at which Colds and Tummy bugs would circulate. When starting a new contract it always seemed that I would get sick in the first week or two. Of course then we did not have the profusion of sanitary hand cleaning stations that I see everywhere... :)

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Re: Coronavirus : 6000 locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #10 on: Feb 06, 2020, 06:46 PM »
10 more cases on the Diamond Princess, quarantined off the Japanese coast. And now the Westerdam, approaching Japan, seems to have possible cases on board too...

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/02/06/national/science-health/japan-10-more-coronavirus-cases-quarantined-cruise-ship/

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Re: Coronavirus : 6000 locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #11 on: Feb 06, 2020, 07:03 PM »
QM2 to skip Hong Kong

https://thepointsguy.com/news/coronavirus-asia-cruises/

Speaking to passengers who'd disembarked QM2 in Dubai on that section of her current world cruise, then come to stay on QE2 last week. They said QM2 was heading to Singapore instead unless things increase in severity further.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 07, 2020, 07:33 AM »
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200207_21/?fbclid=IwAR3pIKzPxS0M-LoQUYXDQx58Mzc7avL6vCo8sQpQ3jg2G51uECOa_uAt80s

41 more affected passengers taken off Diamond Princess. Are they beginning to infect each other?

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #14 on: Feb 07, 2020, 01:12 PM »
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41 more affected passengers taken off Diamond Princess. Are they beginning to infect each other?
Exactly what I've been thinking Isabelle, it's all very well confining pax to a ship but to stop a spread of infection they should be confined to cabins! Regarding my earlier comment, how far can the virus travel airborne via the AC?

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #15 on: Feb 07, 2020, 03:22 PM »
Quick update, just saw on the news a skype interview with 2 American passengers on the Princess ship.
Apparently they are confined to cabins. One concern expressed was that when the Japanese medical team tested their temperatures they were not using a fresh sterile tip for the thermometer, just wiping it with a cloth. Also said that the food and water situation was a little short....although plenty of alchohol is available...

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #16 on: Feb 07, 2020, 06:23 PM »
Here is some more info from a passenger onboard the Diamond Princess via the BBC....

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We are to monitor our temperatures on a regular basis, and if it's increased above normal we are to contact the medical services onboard of the ship."
■   "Passengers in the small inside cabins have no window, there is no daylight, and no fresh air... but the captain has announced those passengers will be allowed access to open deck for exercise and fresh air."
■   "If we are permitted out on open deck, we have to wear a mask when we're outside. We have to keep one metre apart from everyone else and are not allowed to congregate in groups."
■   "All of the luxury of having a steward come to make the bed and put a chocolate on the pillow - those days are gone. We have to take care of the cleanliness and hygiene of our own room."
■   "We're going through all the clothes we put into our dirty wash bag and we're just re-wearing them now. Our underwear we're washing by hand - we don't have anything other than hand soap."
■   "The first day in isolation, the supply of food wasn't good. Now it's superb.

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #17 on: Feb 08, 2020, 01:32 PM »
Every time they get a new case the 14 day quarantine starts again. They could be there fore quite some time on this basis.

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Re: Coronavirus : passengers locked down on cruise ships
« Reply #18 on: Feb 09, 2020, 09:23 AM »
According to my sources on board, QM2 will now bypass Singapore, Vietnam, and Bali, and proceed directly on to Fremantle/Perth, Australia. The ship will anchor at Port Kelang/Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia to refuel and take on supplies, but no passengers or crew may go ashore and re-board.

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« Reply #19 on: Feb 09, 2020, 11:20 AM »
According to my sources on board, QM2 will now bypass Singapore, Vietnam, and Bali, and proceed directly on to Fremantle/Perth, Australia. The ship will anchor at Port Kelang/Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia to refuel and take on supplies, but no passengers or crew may go ashore and re-board.

Cunard has posted an advisory note stating that passengers due to board the QM2 in Singapore on 12/13 February 18/19 February will now have the option to board at Fremantle. What a nightmare for cruise companies and a lot of uncertainty for passengers.  The flight teams have had a difficult couple of weeks, having made changes to people's flight arrangements they are having to make further changes.  Awaiting details of itinerary changes.

Cunard Travel Health Advisories - 9 February 2020

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