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« Reply #20 on: Jan 22, 2020, 09:37 AM »
This one hasnt gone onto social media yet so its a first here!

Part 3 of the Delivery Voyage log mentions the swell in the Irish Sea.

See attached video for an example of this. A big swell for a wee boat :)

Gav

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« Reply #21 on: Jan 27, 2020, 11:35 PM »
You all have my profound admiration steering this distance manually. It is very difficult not to wander off your bearing. On the odd occasions when "George" has not returned from shore leave on Lone Gerd I have always found the concentration needed to keep on course very tiring. Sylvia unfortunately finds it impossible and ends up going round in circles!

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« Reply #22 on: Feb 03, 2020, 03:50 PM »
Hi Folks,

Fourth and final part of The Second Snark's delivery voyage.

21.01.20 - A Journey from Here to There and Back Again
** Part 4 **
In our last post we left MV The Second Snark sailing through the night in thick fog. We re-join her the following morning, the final day of the delivery voyage, with a look at an extract from her skipper's log:
Delivery Voyage: Victoria Harbour, Greenock, to Mayflower Marina, Plymouth
Day 4 – Journey’s End - Arrival at Mayflower Marina, Plymouth (Mon 4th Sept 2017)
-   Still heading for Longships Light as dawn breaks
-   Longer swell on starboard bow from South West, Wind Force 3 South South West
-   Speed 9 knots
-   Sight Cape Cornwall at 1500 and shape course to pass between Longships Light and Carn Brae.
-   Course set for Lizard Lighthouse which brings the swell abeam. Motion remains respectable.
-   Favourable tide from Longships to Lizard. Wind Force 3 from the South West.
-   Speed 11 knots.
-   Pass through area of anchored ships awaiting sailing orders.
-   Course from Lizard to Rame Head. Wind and swell appear negligible and in the same direction as the vessel’s course.
-   Locate and pump out black water tank. Rinse with bleach and pump out a second time.
-   Enter Plymouth Sound in darkness at 2230.
-   Tied up at Mayflower Marina 2330.
-   Coastguard informed that passage complete.
-   Engines shut down, batteries isolated and sea valves closed.
This would be the last journey The Second Snark would complete under her own power.

Skipper’s Conclusions
-   The motion of the vessel is better than hoped. Careful attention should be paid to the current ballast distribution.
-   At close quarters the vessel is manoeuvrable and responsive.
-   When there is a fixed point on the horizon it is reasonably easy to hold course.
-   On a straight course over a long distance the vessel has poor steering qualities which see her yaw up to 45 degrees either side of her intended course requiring the utmost concentration.
-   It is thought that this characteristic may be due to a keel that is parallel to the water line terminating in a square fore foot.
-   Fuel consumption for both engines was 2.27 litres per nautical mile at an average speed of 9 knots. This is more or less in line with manufacturer’s predictions.

LOG ENDS.

In today's photos (again kindly provided courtesy of Stirling and Son) you can see:
- Heavy swell - Enroute for Longships Lighthouse
- Cape Cornwall – Longships Lighthouse in distance
- Manually pumping the bilges
- Cetic Sea – Mainland Astern
- Approaching Longships Lighthouse
- Heavy Swell passing Lands End
- Leaving Longships Lighthouse astern
- View aft from wheelhouse
- Both engines full ahead
- Lizard Lighthouse in distance off port bow
- Heavy load carrier mv Forte at anchor awaiting sailing orders
- Leaving anchored ships astern – course set for Rame Head
- View ahead – on course for Rame Head
- Leaving a wake astern – on course for Rame Head
- View down starboard side – on course for Rame Head
- On the berth at Mayflower Marina, Plymouth

We will pick up the next leg of The Snark's adventure as work begins on her conversion to yacht tender, so make sure you check back soon!
SSPS



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Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
« Reply #24 on: Feb 03, 2020, 04:26 PM »
Many thanks, Gav, for your commentary and photos about The Second Snark.  She is an attractive little boat, and I especially like her lines in one of the first photos when looking at her broadside.  Her stern is very attractive too, her lines being in good proportion to each other.  It is great she is being taken care of !   :)
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« Reply #25 on: Mar 09, 2020, 09:52 AM »
A Wee Update for those interested!!!

"05.03.2020 – Major Step Forward for Project!
Since taking ownership of The Second Snark on 1st October 2019 the Trustees have been working tirelessly behind the scenes planning the next phase of the project.

The Snark has been in outdoor storage at Fairlie Marina since mid 2018 when she was rescued from the cutter’s torch by Hamish Munro – her former owner and operator.

Early on in this project it became very apparent that the work required to restore her to operational condition could not be undertaken at this location therefore relocating her to somewhere more suitable became the ultimate priority.

The Trustees are delighted to announce that today (4th March) The Second Snark was relocated to the Garvel Clyde facility in Greenock (Dales Marine).

The move was agreed in principle between the Trust and Dales late in 2019. However, certain logistical obstacles had to be overcome before it could take place.

Dales Marine are very kindly accommodating The Second Snark whilst fundraising and design works take place.

Over several phases, Dales Marine will undertake the work required in order that The Second Snark can take to the water once again!

Michael Milne, Managing Director of Dales Marine, says:
“Dales Marine Services (Greenock) are delighted to be working with the trustees of The Second Snark and helping to give this historic vessel a second chance.”

The transportation of the vessel was by Dumbarton based haulage specialists, Galt Transport.
A spokesman says:
“We are delighted to be working with the Second Snark Preservation Society to provide the overland transport for MV Second Snark.  As an important piece of local heritage we can’t wait to see her progress and ultimately set sail on the Clyde again.  We commend everyone who has been involved in her restoration so far, for their commitment and motivation in bringing this historical vessel back to life.”

Hamish Munro (the Second Snark’s former owner) says:
“This is a big step forward for the project. For a vessel built nine years before Waverley and only five years after Queen Mary, she is most definitely a candidate very worthy of saving and active preservation.”
Just today Hamish Munro also very generously confirmed that he had advised Galt Transport that Clyde Marine Services would meet the transportation charges for today's move.

Gavin Stewart, Chairman of The Second Snark Preservation Society, says:
“Whilst there is obviously still a fair way to go with the project this move represents the first and most important step to achieving our goal of seeing The Snark back where she belongs – sailing on the Firth of Clyde!”
Keep looking back for further coverage of this significant event, including a video capturing the entire move from Fairlie to Greenock. If you have not already done so, please also consider making a donation to our current fundraising campaign
SSPS"

The move went off without a hitch - it was a 66 mile round trip which involved a police escort from Fairlie to the 3 Towns Bypass just outside Ardrossan after which the Galt Transport Escort Vehicle took over from the Police. The entourage then proceeded down the A78 onto the A71, A77 from Kilmarnock to Glasgow then down the M8 / A8 to Garvel Clyde, Greenock.

A few photos from the move -

(1) The Second Snark being loaded onto the Galt Transport trailer by the Fairlie Quay Marina Ship Hoist.
(2) Passing me in a layby on the 3 Towns Bypass.
(3) Photo by Colin Leck (who lives in a flat overlooking the facility at Garvel) - showing the vessel being lowered into position.

The following day I was advised by Galt Transport that as well as giving a favourable rate to move her they had donated a shipping container to the Trust which will be used to store the contents of the hull which include her new aluminium deckhouse, shafts, propellers, windows, doors, ventilators etc - to allow work to start on the hull.

So Phase 0 (forming Trust and Taking Ownership of the vessel) and Phase 1 (relocating her to Greenock) are now complete - the budget for Phase 2 (which will see all the design work completed) has been established and fund raising is already under way!

To date more than £40,000 has been leveraged in cash and in kind donations.

The target is to have her hull works complete and the deckhouse erected by the end of 2020. She will look herself again and that will be a major achievement (IMHO)

Gav


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Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
« Reply #26 on: Mar 10, 2020, 01:33 PM »
Thanks, Gav, very much for the update !  And the news could not be better.  Things are looking good and all good wishes for continued progress !   :)
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« Reply #27 on: Jul 15, 2020, 01:55 PM »
Hi Folks,

For obvious reasons its been a while since there was any update to be had on this project.

"09.07.2020 - De-Storing Commences!

As The Second Snark was arriving at Garvel Clyde on 4th of March the spectre of COVID19 was starting to cast its shadow over our lives. Sure enough less than 3 weeks later the country was in lock down.
Within a week of the vessel's arrival the plan was to de-store her hull contents into the adjacent container - very kindly donated to the project by Galt Transport - so the Trust could itemise and assess the condition of the items. Lock down prevented this happening until 1st July when a small team of volunteers attended site and proceeded to start the removal process.
The team returned to site yesterday (8th July) so now almost all of the items that could be removed without the aid of craneage have been removed including over 40m3 of teak decking!
This will allow access to the internal hull for survey processes when funds permit.

Many thanks to Al Black, Lynn Morrison, Shelagh Holt for joining myself and fellow Trustee Billy Tomlinson to undertake these works and move this project forward!
Many thanks also to Dales Marine for providing a gangway to give us easy access to the deck.

TSSPS"

Footnotes
(1)  Dales Marine were allowing us to work at deck height without any barriers at our own risk. Moving forward there will be barriers erected around the edges and any deck penetrations.
(2) The condition of the parts removed from the ship is excellent - there was obviously a good amount of restoration work undertaken before the previous project was stopped.
(3) The Trust are going to have to look at off site storage for some of the parts removed from the ship to allow the remaining parts to be removed to the container. This will be prioritised based on when they will be required back on board

Photo 1 - View of the vessel from the other side of the James Watt Dock Entrance
Photo 2 - Associate Trust Member Alastair Black looks up from the deck below.
Photo 3 - The Clyde Marine houseflag flies on board The Second Snark once again!
Photo 4 - Nice wide gangway access thanks to Dales.
Photo 5 - Full container of parts (ship still isnt emptied!!)
Photo 6 - Trawler ARGO K which sunk off Ireland just over 2 months ago, arrived Friday before last for recycling.
« Last Edit: Jul 17, 2020, 11:42 AM by Clydebuilt1971 »

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« Reply #28 on: Jul 16, 2020, 09:47 PM »
Thanks for the update Gav. Good to know that the work is proceeding. You should be proud to be leading this project to restore this ship.
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« Reply #29 on: Jul 16, 2020, 11:26 PM »
Many thanks, Gav, for the update ! And it is so good to hear that work is moving forward ! To you and all involved with her, keep up the good work !  :)
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« Reply #30 on: Aug 04, 2020, 02:29 PM »
Hello again folks,

The project is in a quiet phase as we await news of potential funding but that doesnt mean nothing happens!
When we were de-storing the ship a couple of weeks back we removed a few key items from her for safe keeping.
One of those items was a bucket of brass fixtures and fittings which had obviously become a little oxidised since they were stored inside the ship!

Volunteer Alastair Black took a selection of them home to clean up and the results were amazing as can be seen below.

There are many items stored in the container which will require restoration and this can be carried out by volunteers rather than using trust funds. The only situation where that would not apply would be in the case of for example a window needed professional work on the frame etc.

Alastair has kindly provided before and after photos as follows:

(1) A brass nozzle and fitting for a water hose - before cleaning.
(2) + (3) After cleaning up.
(4) Oil Fuel Filler Cap before cleaning
(5) Oil Fuel Filler Cap after cleaning
(6) Taff Rail End Cap (hinged as it was located above a door in the bulwarks) before cleaning
(7) Taff Rail End Cap after cleaning
(8)Porthole Deadlight - before - during & after cleaning.

More to come as we hopefully progress into the next phase!!

Gav



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« Reply #31 on: Aug 05, 2020, 01:51 AM »
Amazing ! What a transformation !  :)
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