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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #20 on: Mar 13, 2019, 09:35 PM »
I was wondering about that...  Should we prepare a plank...?
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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #21 on: Mar 14, 2019, 01:16 PM »
I am quite naïve about eBay...

Are you saying that (a) you were all bidding for these slides in order to donate them to the Forum, but without having let Rob know, or (b) you made Rob spend more Forum funds because you were competing with him for the slides?

Or both...?

Isabelle,

I cast my bid before I read this thread otherwise I would've backed off because it (unfortunately in this case) pushes the end cost up hence Rob paid more. My bid was way off what they eventually went for.
Photos are for viewing - if I had won these instead of Rob then the outcome would've been the same.

Looking forward to seeing them and also happy knowing that a valuable collection of original slides is now in good hands!

So you can draw your plank in Peter  :)

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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #22 on: Mar 14, 2019, 04:40 PM »
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  I am quite naïve about eBay...   

The first thing and the golden rule is with Ebay, when you click "confirm bid" you are entering into a contract and  agreeing to pay that price IF you win, its not a game or a thing to play about with. and as a seller on ebay l dont hold any prisoners. There is nothing worse that having someone bid and then asking to have it cancelled (it can be cancelled but we dont go there) and the bidder can retract the bid, which l dont agree with.   
When you look at the bid history, and that isnt my seller name for obvious reasons the bid placed is the maximum that person has bid, in my case £125  Joe Blogs can bid a higher figure  . Indeed the winning bidder will generally appear to have won the bid by only a small amount, For all we know the winning bidder could have placed a £500 bid but previous bidders wont know that and can continue to bid and be out bid until that maximim bid is reached.

I recently stopped using my original ebay seller name , generally because when your reach a feedback of six thousand some things can happen so l swopped to what is now my other account.



 
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Are you saying that (a) you were all bidding for these slides in order to donate them to the Forum, but without having let Rob know, or (b) you made Rob spend more Forum funds because you were competing with him for the slides?   

Why did l bid what l did , simply l was happy to pay the price l bid. And l was not going to get involved in a bidding war. As it happens l didnt win , the reason doesnt matter ,But it would not have been  hot footing it down to Tesco to make copies and flood the market . It might have been quite nice to hire a local hall lay on some tea and homebakes and have a slide show like the good old days  and remind us of the merrits of the SWRI and their slide shows 


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I was wondering about that...  Should we prepare a plank...? 

Im happy to walk the plank , However it should be noted for the prosecution l cannot swim. and lm not really good with water, least of all being made to jump in it.
and like l say..all is fair in love and war, except when it comes to Ebay.
For what its worth, lm surprised Rob won, l honesty expected them to go for much more and to one of three people who didnt bid. But then its a strange world on Ebay.


   

Bidder   Bid amount   Bid time
r***y(501)   £172.88   10 Mar 2019 at 7:40:01PM GMT
r***y(501)   £172.88   9 Mar 2019 at 5:56:42PM GMT
r***y(501)   £172.88   8 Mar 2019 at 10:23:32AM GMT
s***s(3610)   £167.88   10 Mar 2019 at 8:06:30PM GMT
Myles (1220)   £125.00   10 Mar 2019 at 6:19:01PM GMT
v***2(573)   £121.00   10 Mar 2019 at 4:28:51PM GMT
v***2(573)   £107.00   10 Mar 2019 at 4:25:26PM GMT
v***2(573)   £90.00   10 Mar 2019 at 2:37:41PM GMT
r***y(501)   £75.00   7 Mar 2019 at 4:49:26PM GMT
Starting price   £74.99   3 Mar 2019 at 8:06:33PM GMT
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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #23 on: Mar 14, 2019, 11:04 PM »
I recently stopped using my original ebay seller name , generally because when your reach a feedback of six thousand some things can happen

Sounds intriguing - what sort of things happen when the feedback reaches 6,000?

I stopped selling on e-Bay myself a few months ago; I'm just about to launch my own website for selling off my unwanted items... so I'm not likely to reach the 6,000 level myself - I'm on 344 or something...
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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #24 on: Mar 15, 2019, 10:51 AM »
The latest news on the slides is that I think they're at my local post office (even though the eBay item itself still says its not sent), however just to make things more interesting, my local post office has apparently shut down...  I'll sort it out tomorrow morning.

As soon as I have them, I'll scan a couple in and describe the rest of them if I can.

Providing prints of them is possible - however I am realistic - people just scan things in and post them on Facebook then there's nothing to show for £177!!
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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #25 on: Mar 15, 2019, 05:51 PM »
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  The latest news on the slides is that I think they're at my local post office (even though the eBay item itself still says its not sent), however just to make things more interesting, my local post office has apparently shut down...  I'll sort it out tomorrow morning. 

If its the online tracking system, then the seller should have sent these by Special Delivery (which does provide full online tracking ) Special delivery provides compensation for the value of the package in this case.
 If the seller has gone for the cheap option of "Signed for", then the tracking only kicks in to show when the item has actually been delivered and only provides compensation upto £40 . and assuming the postperson has scanned the barcode. with this recent addition to the service it allows for ANY item larger than a large letter to have the confirmed delivery shown on the ebay tracking when its been delivered. For the ebay sellers out there this is a valuable tool for buyers who claim the item hasnt been delivered . its a marvelous system and as yet highly undervalued. 

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Providing prints of them is possible - however I am realistic - people just scan things in and post them on Facebook then there's nothing to show for £177!! 
Thats the harsh reality, l was offered duplicate photos from very well meaning friends on here, and l was very flattered to find some of my own photos among them.

   
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As soon as I have them, I'll scan a couple in and describe the rest of them if I can.   
At the risk of telling someone how to suck eggs , this is an ideal chance to rather than post a whole load in one go to post them one at a time and allow for some discussion on what we see etc... Not that it matters with copyright ??? but do you now have carte blanche to print, publish, post or do with these in whatever way you like ?
Some of these free photo sites allow you to upload them into mini books and or photo tiles and provide one book per month free of charge, maybe a chance to allow a rare monthly prize  in the photo of the month comp ? or put the photo tiles on ebay and who knows the investment might be recouped ten fold...   For what its worth my thinking was the photo tiles and at one tile per month cover the side of the wall next to my desktop... or plan a vintage QE2 calendar , or get an outside projector and project QE2 on the front of your house  ......well the worlds your oyster with these.
Then do you allow these for the world and his wife to see , or perhaps gently tease people back to here....or allow them to be seen by only active members.
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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #26 on: Mar 15, 2019, 08:54 PM »
If the seller has gone for the cheap option of "Signed for", then the tracking only kicks in to show when the item has actually been delivered and only provides compensation up to £40, and assuming the postperson has scanned the bar code. With this recent addition to the service it allows for ANY item larger than a large letter to have the confirmed delivery shown on the ebay tracking when its been delivered. For the ebay sellers out there this is a valuable tool for buyers who claim the item hasn't been delivered . Its a marvelous system and as yet highly undervalued.

I personally wouldn't describe the Signed For service as marvelous; speaking from direct personal experience I can say that typically 5% to 6% on average, consistently, never get signed for.  It's also no more secure than ordinary post.

Special Delivery, as you rightly point out, is fully tracked and is much better - albeit at a price.  With Special Delivery, the items have to be signed for by each and every person within Royal Mail who handles them.  So at every handover during transit, there will be a signature.

Signed for, on the other hand, is simply scanned at the point of collection and then dumped in with the regular, normal, everyday post for the transit.  In theory it then gets scanned again and signed for at the point of delivery, but there's another difference... a Special can only be signed for by the addressee.  A Signed For can be signed for by literally anyone, even the next door neighbour.  I have even seen some on the Royal Mail Track and Trace website that were signed for by "Postie", which is a total abuse of the system and renders it pointless.

One other point which is little known - even if you know for certain that a Signed For has been delivered, you - if you are the sender - can still claim the £1.10 extra fee back from the Royal Mail for signature failure - and as I said above, the signature failure rate is consistently 5% to 6%...
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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #27 on: Mar 15, 2019, 09:05 PM »
If its the online tracking system, then the seller should have sent these by Special Delivery (which does provide full online tracking ) Special delivery provides compensation for the value of the package in this case.
 If the seller has gone for the cheap option of "Signed for", then the tracking only kicks in to show when the item has actually been delivered and only provides compensation upto £40 . and assuming the postperson has scanned the barcode. with this recent addition to the service it allows for ANY item larger than a large letter to have the confirmed delivery shown on the ebay tracking when its been delivered. For the ebay sellers out there this is a valuable tool for buyers who claim the item hasnt been delivered . its a marvelous system and as yet highly undervalued. 
Thats the harsh reality, l was offered duplicate photos from very well meaning friends on here, and l was very flattered to find some of my own photos among them.
eBay still says it hasn't been posted at all - no tracking number - and no contact from the seller.  However I have a card through a door, with a tracking number on it, telling me something is at the post office.

    At the risk of telling someone how to suck eggs , this is an ideal chance to rather than post a whole load in one go to post them one at a time and allow for some discussion on what we see etc... Not that it matters with copyright ??? but do you now have carte blanche to print, publish, post or do with these in whatever way you like ?
Some of these free photo sites allow you to upload them into mini books and or photo tiles and provide one book per month free of charge, maybe a chance to allow a rare monthly prize  in the photo of the month comp ? or put the photo tiles on ebay and who knows the investment might be recouped ten fold...   For what its worth my thinking was the photo tiles and at one tile per month cover the side of the wall next to my desktop... or plan a vintage QE2 calendar , or get an outside projector and project QE2 on the front of your house  ......well the worlds your oyster with these.
Then do you allow these for the world and his wife to see , or perhaps gently tease people back to here....or allow them to be seen by only active members.

I like the idea of dribbling them onto the forum to boost discussion and interest (and visits).  I would only actually project them if I was sure the projector wouldn't damage them or deteriorate them.  I think the best bet really is to just get them scanned and then leave them preserved in their box somewhere dark, cool and dry.

The seller says we have copyright... a vintage calendar is a nice idea, but would have the same theft problem as discussed above.... decisions decisions decisions!!  Nice ones though.
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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #28 on: Mar 16, 2019, 11:16 AM »
The slides have arrived...
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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #29 on: Mar 16, 2019, 12:11 PM »
OK so at first glance, they're every bit as exciting as we thought they would be.

I attach one photo - I'm just fine-tuning my scanning settings before proceeding.  Its not easy, and need to be careful to get any wee hairs off the slides before scanning.

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« Reply #30 on: Mar 16, 2019, 12:24 PM »
Wow...can’t wait to see some more! 👍😁

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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #31 on: Mar 16, 2019, 01:07 PM »
Thanks so much to you, Rob

The detail is superb!
I wonder whether the photographer will ever know just how important a camera-person he or she was?!
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« Reply #32 on: Mar 16, 2019, 03:45 PM »
Absolutely superb. Great detailed photo. Watermark is not too obvious once the photo is clicked for viewing larger.

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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #33 on: Mar 16, 2019, 04:35 PM »
I've attached a couple more, both taken on deck in September 1967 just before launch.  I'm afraid I've lowered the resolution, while I consider how to best handle these.  If you've been on board QE2, you should have stood in both spots I'd imagine!

So far (I am 2/3rds of the way through the first of the 5 slide boxes) the photos are mainly 1967 and 1968 while in Clydebank, both interior, on-deck and dockside.  There are a number of fascinating photos, and things I've never seen before.

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« Reply #34 on: Mar 16, 2019, 10:08 PM »
Magnificent!

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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #35 on: Mar 17, 2019, 11:12 AM »
I'm nearly finished the first box, which has mostly been exterior shots, with some on-deck and a few internal shots of incomplete interiors.  The box ends with some shots from December 1968 of her in Greenock and on trials I think...

The rest of the little markers in the box say...

xmas 1968 pools
personalities & work 67 - 68
easter 1969
seaviews of QE2 1968 trials
fitting out & tech trials 67-68
xmas 68 externals
internals xmas 68
qe2 1976 soton
childrens xmas voyage dec 20th 68 - jan 1 69
easter 69 voyage externals
easter 69 voyage
qe2 soton dry dock & night pictures 1970

Attached is another from the first box

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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #36 on: Mar 17, 2019, 01:29 PM »
This Is Exciting!!

Might it be useful to link Bryce Foundling's post here too?
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php?topic=6580.0
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« Reply #37 on: Mar 17, 2019, 03:37 PM »
This is interesting.
There appears to be no "crash"  boat at No 1 boat position.

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Re: QE2 slides on eBay
« Reply #38 on: Mar 17, 2019, 07:02 PM »
Here's a final couple for this weekend.

We're now thinking of a book... and contacting the Press... watch this space...

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« Reply #39 on: Mar 17, 2019, 08:04 PM »
Rob.
These are fantastic. Not only the ship but great to see the John Brown's shipyard buildings and cranes too.
A book would be great with all of these new unique photos never seen before.