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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #40 on: Sep 11, 2018, 10:44 PM »
No,I think Bournemouth Pier has been open ever since ..... there have been lots of smaller excursion boats operating over the years

It was closed to Waverley from last year on account of structural issues but has always been a thriving tourist attraction in the leisure sense of being a pier with lots of seaside entertainment

The latest attraction appears to have been a zip-wire and some have said that this would now get in the way of it ever reopening for a ship such as Waverley !

It also needs dredging. There is lots of sand in Bournemouth, which drifts and accumulates. Latterly Waverley had to miss calls on occasion depending on the state of the tide ...... and the state of the sea. If there was a reasonable swell, there was a big danger of her hitting bottom unless it was near high tide

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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #41 on: Sep 12, 2018, 07:48 AM »
No,I think Bournemouth Pier has been open ever since ..... there have been lots of smaller excursion boats operating over the years

It was closed to Waverley from last year on account of structural issues but has always been a thriving tourist attraction in the leisure sense of being a pier with lots of seaside entertainment

The latest attraction appears to have been a zip-wire and some have said that this would now get in the way of it ever reopening for a ship such as Waverley !

It also needs dredging. There is lots of sand in Bournemouth, which drifts and accumulates. Latterly Waverley had to miss calls on occasion depending on the state of the tide ...... and the state of the sea. If there was a reasonable swell, there was a big danger of her hitting bottom unless it was near high tide

My Dad was telling me that Bournemouth Pier used to have a jetty extension which ships of a similar size to Waverley used when he was a child so they could "dock" in Bournemouth more easily. This jetty is no longer there and hasn't been for decades now.

Since moving down to Bournemouth in 2011 we have never seen Waverley or a similar size ship go to the end of the pier as it is very shallow as you've mentioned (people swimming can still stand up a fair way out from the beach) - but we may have missed the times Waverley was there. We also used to holiday in Bournemouth when I was a young child (before going to school, so around the Millennium) and don't recall seeing the likes of Waverley near the pier but again may have missed her (somehow!). Smaller pleasure boats do still use the end of the pier however as you've also mentioned, as the one doing tours around the anchored HMS Diamond, at the air show this year, did.

It is a bit disconcerting that the end of the pier is still open given such structural issues. I have photos and videos I took from the end of the pier which show that the wooden structure has seen better days, but I thought that was more of a cosmetic problem! If Waverley does start visiting again that would be wonderful!
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #42 on: Sep 13, 2018, 02:18 PM »
Waverley would sail from Bournemouth on about half her days whilst on her two week or so stint in September

I don't know for sure but I had the feeling she used one of the sides of the pier

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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #44 on: Sep 14, 2018, 10:38 PM »
She did...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=662&ei=YdaaW7arBc2RkwWAiqmwDg&q=waverley+bournemouth&oq=waverley+bournemouth&gs_l=img.3...1039.5335.0.5599.21.11.0.10.10.0.103.608.8j2.10.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..1.11.610.0..0j35i39k1.0.3i2QFABflyQ

Thank you for confirming Peter. I am kicking myself as we were not aware of her still visiting the pier as late as 2016 from what I can see when quickly looking through the image search results. Maybe the zip line does affect things now or a lack of dredging? A shame if these things do. Having said that she may still be using the pier after all so I will keep a lookout after all! A wonderful vessel and photo opportunity too good to miss - she should be around about now (although she was in Southampton earlier today and seems to be docking there in the last few days)!
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #45 on: Sep 14, 2018, 11:20 PM »
Check carefully - sometimes online the dates shown are the dates the pictures were uploaded rather than when taken; unless the caption actually states it was taken on a date in 2016 then a pinch of salt may be required.
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #46 on: Sep 16, 2018, 10:03 PM »
Don't look out for Waverley - unless you have a powerful telescope

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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #47 on: Sep 18, 2018, 01:07 PM »
Her South Coast progamme has been marred by cancellations due to high winds etc.

Hoping the Thames can go some way to recouping lost revenues and that she gets back home to The Clyde in timeous fashion and doesn't get marooned on the South Coast as happened a few years back.

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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #48 on: Sep 18, 2018, 09:34 PM »
Her South Coast progamme has been marred by cancellations due to high winds etc.

Hoping the Thames can go some way to recouping lost revenues and that she gets back home to The Clyde in timeous fashion and doesn't get marooned on the South Coast as happened a few years back.

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"Marooned" on the South Coast  :P  ;) . We would like to have her around for a bit, to have a successful season, and keep Shieldhall company - jokes aside!
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #49 on: Sep 19, 2018, 08:40 AM »

"Marooned" on the South Coast  :P  ;) . We would like to have her around for a bit, to have a successful season, and keep Shieldhall company - jokes aside!

Well you never know - the way the weather can be in this country!!!

I think it was 2015 her return to her Clyde base was delayed until early December due to weather.

On the subject of her South Coast sailings - here is an interesting article on her first sojourn south in 1978:

Waverley's First Venture South 1978

I have digitised cine footage of her arriving at Tower Pier, River Thames for the first time in 1978 - I will dig it out and post!

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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #50 on: Sep 19, 2018, 07:53 PM »
Gav, thanks for sharing the link to this article that gives such a lot of historical information of PS first visit to the Southern coast.  It is fantastic that PS Waverley was so popular on her first visit south and has continued to create interest.  I see there is mention of the PS Jeannie Dean (PS Queen of the South) had been withdrawn in 1967.  I remember sailing on this paddle steamer in the late 1950's from Dunoon to Rothesay.  Happy memories!
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #51 on: Oct 03, 2018, 03:01 PM »
As Waverley approaches the final weekend of her Thames sailing programme for 2018 now is as good a time as any to post a photo of surely the most unique feature of her visits to the Pool of London - the opening of Tower Bridge.

There is of course a connection with the Clyde within the bridge itself.
The metal superstructure was built by famous Scottish company William Arrol & Co - famous for the Forth and Tay Rail Bridges , the gantry built at H&W Belfast under which the Olympic Class liners Olympic, Titanic and Britannic were built and numerous Titan Cranes on the Clyde and around the world.

Arrol were one of eight contractors involved in the bridge's construction. Which was completed in 1894.

Sir William Arrol - Tower Bridge (be aware some of the information on this wordpress site is incorrect but is interesting nonetheless)

I have sailed on Waverley on the Thames - sailed through the bridge to and from The Pool of London and also stood on the viewing areas underneath the bascules of the bridge itself as the paddler sails through blowing her steam whistle to cheers from the crowds who always assemble to see what is sailing through - tourists are fascinated about her as there is nothing like her left sailing in the world.

I never fail to feel very very proud that a wee paddle steamer built to sail in the upper Firth of Clyde with the name Glasgow proudly painted on her cruiser stern can stop the City of London in her tracks!!!

Clydebuilt and Proud

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« Reply #52 on: Oct 04, 2018, 12:04 AM »
Proud indeed.

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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #53 on: Oct 04, 2018, 02:56 PM »
Awesome !   :)
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #54 on: Oct 10, 2018, 08:00 AM »
Well folks that's Waverley's 2018 season finished.

Waverley Excursions announced yesterday that this weekend's sailings are cancelled as the vessel will not be able to reposition to the Clyde in time due to weather and sea conditions. There are "big seas" forecast in the Irish Sea in the next few days and of course there is the matter of getting round Lands End and into the Irish Sea first!

She is currently in Weymouth where she arrived on Monday at 1400.

Lets hope this isn't a repeat of a few years back when she arrived in Weymouth and stayed there for a couple of weeks but then had to return to Soton (Weymouth needed her berth) and lay dead ship for a time until a fresh crew and master arrived to take her back to the Clyde - she arrived back at the end of November that year looking slightly worse for wear!

Hoping a weather window opens soon and ship and crew get back to base safely. Also hoping there are no following seas as this stresses the wheels and gives the engineers headaches (literally) with the banging and thumping as the waves rebound off the floats.

Feeling as I do about that wee ship I prefer to see her and crew safe and sound. Cancelled sailings are a disappointment but safety is paramount.
The Thames to the Clyde is the longest positioning run she undertakes during a season and longer it takes the further into winter we get hence conditions become even less favourable.

So Godspeed to you and your crew old girl - hope to see you back home soon.

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« Reply #55 on: Oct 10, 2018, 08:29 AM »
Well folks that's Waverley's 2018 season finished.

Waverley Excursions announced yesterday that this weekend's sailings are cancelled as the vessel would not be able to reposition to the Clyde due to weather and sea conditions. There are "big seas" forecast in the Irish Sea in the next few days and of course there is the matter of getting round Lands End and into the Irish Sea first!

She is currently in Weymouth where she arrived on Monday at 1400.

Lets hope this isn't a repeat of a few years back when she arrived in Weymouth and stayed there for a couple of weeks but then had to return to Soton (Weymouth needed her berth) and lay dead ship for a time until a fresh crew and master arrived to take her back to the Clyde - she arrived back at the start of December that year looking slightly worse for wear!

Hoping a weather window opens soon and ship and crew get back to base safely. Also hoping there are no following seas as this stresses the wheels and gives the engineers headaches (literally) with the banging and thumping as the waves rebound off the floats.

Feeling as I do about that wee ship I prefer to see her and crew safe and sound. The Thames to the Clyde is the longest positioning run she undertakes during a season and longer it takes the further into winter we get hence conditions become even less favourable.

So Godspeed to you and your crew old girl - hope to see you back home soon.

Gav

Sad the rest of the sailings down here have been cancelled but Mother Nature holds the ultimate power and say. If she gets "stuck" down here I may see her in Southampton when meeting up with friends this coming Monday (senses a good photo opportunity despite the unfortunate nature of her being there if that happens).
« Last Edit: Oct 10, 2018, 08:31 AM by Thomas Hypher »
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #56 on: Oct 10, 2018, 08:34 AM »
Hi Thomas,

I don't know how long the harbour master at Weymouth will allow her to remain on that berth - especially if the weather may worsen so assuming she doesn't get away in the next few days you never know!

She was in good company last time as she was berthed very close to another Clydebuilt ship ss Shieldhall. Apparently the security on that berth very kindly kept an eye on her while she was shut down.

It was 2014 she was heavily delayed - not returning to her Glasgow berth until 23rd November.

Arrival photos here: 2014 Delayed Return

Gav
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #57 on: Oct 10, 2018, 08:48 AM »
Thanks for the update Gavin.

That's a shame, I was looking forward to my first and last trip of this year. I'm finding it very difficult to get aboard nowadays, and have only made it on for 2 hours in the past 5 years.  The fact that I refuse to travel on her on a Saturday on the Clyde doesn't help!

How long stuck would she need to be before the profits from the south season were cancelled out?  Or is the risk more that she just stops trying to return North at all...

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« Reply #58 on: Oct 10, 2018, 08:53 AM »
Hi Thomas,

I don't know how long the harbour master at Weymouth will allow her to remain on that berth - especially if the weather may worsen so assuming she doesn't get away in the next few days you never know!

She was in good company last time as she was berthed very close to another Clydebuilt ship ss Shieldhall. Apparently the security on that berth very kindly kept an eye on her while she was shut down.

It was 2014 she was heavily delayed - not returning to her Glasgow berth until 23rd November.

Arrival photos here: 2014 Delayed Return

Gav

And she'll be near the current Ocean Terminal, not to mention the troubled Calshot too. Town Quay (near the current Red Funnel Terminal) is quite the vantage point in this case.
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Re: Waverley Updates - 2018
« Reply #59 on: Oct 11, 2018, 03:25 PM »
She's moved to Southampton this morning

 

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