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Online Twynkle

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #20 on: Dec 07, 2009, 06:41 PM »
http://www.shippingtandy.com/index.html
and
http://www.shipsmonthly.com/
Both November issues (UK) have coverage of the Saga Rose
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

Offline Jem

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #21 on: Dec 07, 2009, 08:01 PM »
Regarding scrapping, Alang has now been mentioned for the SAGA Rose.  With no official word on her final destination, it sounds rather ominous that another great ship is going to Alang, asbestos and all.


Not sure what this destination is (Gibraltar?). Thats where she appears to be heading.......

Online cunardqueen

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #22 on: Dec 07, 2009, 08:11 PM »
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Just like that and she's off to a port unknown.....
The same happened with Canberra, another great ship, they did however disclose where she was going only AFTER she had departed her berth. P&O were perhaps lacking in balls maybe? or fearful of the reaction?

Makes you wonder why they couldnt have done a farewell voyage and chucked disembarked the passengers prior to her reaching Alang? But either way can you imagine how uncomfortable some of the crew must have been, and for the Captain to actually run her onto the beach....
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Online cunardqueen

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #23 on: Dec 07, 2009, 08:20 PM »
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I had the chance to board her back in 1993 when she was Sagafjord nice little ship, its a pity her days are counted.........

Louis

I recall on one QE2 cruise in the late 80s she was in the same port as us and they allowed QE2 passengers onboard for a look, How times have changed, and what a nice ship she was.

 
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Offline Louis De Sousa

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Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #24 on: Dec 07, 2009, 10:05 PM »

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I recall on one QE2 cruise in the late 80s she was in the same port as us and they allowed QE2 passengers onboard for a look, How times have changed, and what a nice ship she was.

Yes how times changed.I remember once in Barbados the QE2 was docked with the Royal Viking Sun which was then owned by Cunard.That day i think from both ships no passengers and crew left the port area.There was exchange of passengers and crew going back and forth from both ships.I even got a snack then by the outside pool area.............

Louis

Online CasinoChris

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #25 on: Dec 08, 2009, 02:47 AM »
Sagafjord and Vistafjord....
OK I know this site is dedicated to QE2, and what I say is going to upset some folks! The Saga and Vista were superb ships and in many ways superior to the QE2, I was fortunate enough to work on the QE2, Saga, Vista, Countess and Princess during the late 80's and early 90's. During that time Saga & Vista were rated as the five star plus ships of the fleet. The service on board was excellent as was the food, I saw better buffet spreads on here than on any other ships I worked on. Although the ships were smaller and had fewer public areas, the intimacy and higher crew/passenger ratio was much appreciated by passengers. We had many QE2 regulars who much preferred these 2 ships.
The excellent maintenance of the ships combined with the scandanavian management made for a great cruise experience both for passengers and crew; Hey a happy crew means a happy ship. it must be said these two ladies are two of the only remaining cruisers that still look like ships....even if cunard tried to mess em up with penthouse cabins!!!.
I will be very sad if Saga ends up on the beach, even at over 40 years old I bet she is still in excellent order, she and the Vista were he only ships apart from museum vessels I have seen where even the watertight door mechanisms were polished to a high shine!!
Waxing lyrical
CasinoChris

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Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #26 on: Dec 08, 2009, 06:21 PM »
http://www.linerlovers.com/
Beneath the heading 'Site Updates > Saga Rose

Some superb photos and a very moving account by Patricia Dempsey
of Saga Rose's leaving of Southampton
A strong reminder too, of 11.11.2008.
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

Offline Mauretania1907

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #27 on: Dec 09, 2009, 08:05 AM »
OOOOooo, this site looks like one I will revisit. I like their term 'ship stalking'. Sounds like stalking large things like elephants.

richc1977

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Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #28 on: Dec 09, 2009, 11:23 AM »
Can anyone see the Saga Rose on one of the ship tracking sites?

http://marinetraffic.com/

I can't see her, what am I doing wrong?

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #29 on: Dec 09, 2009, 11:47 AM »
I found her here :

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?oldmmsi=308264000&zoom=10&olddate=12/8/2009%204:56:45%20AM

She is almost due south of Plymouth and north of Saint-Pol-de-Leon. This is her reading :

SAGA ROSE
Position Recorded on: 12/8/2009 4:56:45 AM (UTC)
Lon/Lat: -4.0176668 / 49.630829
Speed/Course: 15.4 kn / 238°
Vessel's track shown for that day.

That's more than a day ago now. I got there via the Southampton departures. Maybe this is the end of the zone where she is still covered by Southampton?

richc1977

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Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #30 on: Dec 09, 2009, 01:32 PM »
If you view the link now and click on her icon it says "Vessel out of range".   :(

I wonder where she is going.........

Offline Clydebuilt1971

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #31 on: Dec 09, 2009, 03:48 PM »
She is headed to Gib right enough.

Sorry to be a doomster but in the absence of any announcement of sale to a future operator (in static or operational form) it looks like the beaches beckon for this beautiful creature.

A friend of mine took a cruise on her earlier this year and from his pics she looked in absolutely pristine condition. If hes OK with it I could post some if anyone would be interested (and it isnt considered too off topic for a QE2 site!). Here's one as a taster (credited to him). Now theres a proper cruiser stern if I've ever seen one!!!!  ;D

Heres hoping Saga Rose is off to operate in non SOLAS regulated waters or for static use.

Gav
« Last Edit: Dec 09, 2009, 04:06 PM by Clydebuilt1971 »

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #32 on: Dec 09, 2009, 04:17 PM »
Sagafjord and Vistafjord....
OK I know this site is dedicated to QE2, and what I say is going to upset some folks!

Just a quick clarification -- the Virtual Chart Room, just like the real one  ;D  , is a place where any subject under the sun, the moon, the stars, the clouds and the decks may be discussed and no one (certainly not the Moderators!) will be upset. For ships other than QE2, we would just wish to keep it to one thread per ship.

I can confirm what you, Chris, said. Not about Saga Rose, which I only once saw berthed in Dublin, but about her sister Caronia / Vistafjord -- a beautiful ship, elegant and perfect service, and a wonderful cruise. Sadly, I never did watch the speed she was doing -- but she was a warm and lovely home while we were on board in 2004, just a few months before the handover to Saga...

Online cunardqueen

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #33 on: Dec 09, 2009, 07:53 PM »
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Sagafjord and Vistafjord....
OK I know this site is dedicated to QE2, and what I say is going to upset some folks!

Going back a number of years wasnt Sagafjord rated the worlds Number 1 cruise ship, in the days before size was an issue.
A good friend of mine cruised on both Sagafjord & Vistafjord and laterly as the Saga Sisters and she always said that Saga had taken good care of the ships.
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

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Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #34 on: Dec 09, 2009, 09:47 PM »

Heres the Saga Rose in Cunard colours as Sagafjord



Louis

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Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #35 on: Dec 10, 2009, 12:23 AM »
She is headed to Gib right enough.

Sorry to be a doomster but in the absence of any announcement of sale to a future operator (in static or operational form) it looks like the beaches beckon for this beautiful creature.

A friend of mine took a cruise on her earlier this year and from his pics she looked in absolutely pristine condition. If hes OK with it I could post some if anyone would be interested (and it isnt considered too off topic for a QE2 site!). Here's one as a taster (credited to him). Now theres a proper cruiser stern if I've ever seen one!!!!  ;D

Heres hoping Saga Rose is off to operate in non SOLAS regulated waters or for static use.

Gav

That excellent photo reminds me of our favorite ship.  :D  I never really noticed the rear bridge wing bumpouts either, a feature on older liners.

Ken
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Online CasinoChris

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #36 on: Dec 10, 2009, 01:56 AM »
Even more waxing lyrical,
the starboard rear bumpout was where I met my wife to be back in 92......yep I was crew, she a passenger....OOOPS!!! We're still happily married by the way.......Bless you Sagafjord, anyone know any contacts in Alang, I'd like to get hold of the bumpout railings?????
Cheers
CasinoChris

Offline Clydebuilt1971

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #37 on: Dec 10, 2009, 10:17 AM »
As I said yesterday a good friend of mine Tom Carreyette, took a cruise on Saga Rose a few months back and has given me these pics to post here for anyone interested in seeing the ship as she was in her final sailings for Saga. (including a bumpout for you Chris!)

« Last Edit: Dec 10, 2009, 10:30 AM by Clydebuilt1971 »

Offline Clydebuilt1971

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #38 on: Dec 10, 2009, 10:25 AM »
Following on with some interior shots...... :)

Online Michael Gallagher

Re: Saga Rose
« Reply #39 on: Dec 10, 2009, 12:37 PM »
Pleased to report that the bumpouts mentioned above were incorporated into QM2 as a result of them being on Vistafjord (then Caronia) and Sagafjord (then Saga Rose)!

QM2 forward superstructure: modelled on Queen Mary
QM2 whaleback: modelled on Normandie
QM2 bow, mast and funnel: modelled on QE2
QM2 aft masts: modelled on France

And I think something was modelled on Rotterdam but I can't remember what now - I'll ask Stephen Payne.

 

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