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kevinh

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QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« on: Dec 17, 2017, 03:20 AM »
Cunard has been an ocean liner company since 1839. Now they only have one true liner in QM2. QV and QE3, even though they are reinforced and thus claimed to be liners, really aren't. But what if they were?

Personally, I would've first named Queen Elizabeth the Queen Elizabeth 3. Second, I'd have designed her and Queen Victoria at their same current dimensions with the same type of accommodations, but with an external appearance that is a mix between QE2 and QM2, while still keeping their same type of "personality" traits that differentiates them (for instance, Victoria would have more of an Edwardian style to her). Basically, they'd actually be designed as ocean liners.  ;D

What do you think? What would you do?

trevorc

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Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #1 on: Dec 17, 2017, 03:47 AM »
Cunard has been an ocean liner company since 1839.
Not exactly.. Cunard was formed as a "Transatlantic" Steamship company, and now is a "Cruise Line".
According to Oxford Dictionary, this is a ocean liner, "noun. 1A large luxurious passenger ship of a type formerly used on a regular line. ... ".

kevinh

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Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #2 on: Dec 17, 2017, 04:25 AM »
Yeah I guess I forgot about when they got branded by Carnival :-[. But that still begs the question: how would you have designed them as ocean liners?

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Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #3 on: Dec 17, 2017, 04:41 AM »
Yeah I guess I forgot about when they got branded by Carnival :-[. But that still begs the question: how would you have designed them as ocean liners?

Cunard has been a brand of 3 different parent companies since 1971. Trafalgar House (1971 to 1996), Kværner (1996 to 1998), and of course Carnival (1998 to present). Cunard has had to be such to survive, if only in name...

To answer your original question, I would have designed them as modern copies of QE2, of similar size and performance etc. (who wouldn't) if economics were not at stake (money makes the World go round  :( ). I would have kept both of their names the same as QE3 is starting to get a bit silly in my opinion - where do you stop (QE4, QE5 etc.)?

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trevorc

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Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #4 on: Dec 17, 2017, 05:05 AM »
(QE4, QE5 etc.)?
Name should have been retired after QE2.

Online Andy Holloway

Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #5 on: Dec 17, 2017, 12:05 PM »
Pray tell us where all the other 'old time'  Ocean Liner Companies are now?

I must have missed all those 'Ocean Liners' plying their trade backwards and forwards across the North Atlantic somehow!

The end of the 'Ocean Liner' came once flying became affordable and possible.

We might not like Carnival and what they do but, let's not get to the point where we blame all the World's ills on them, they weren't even a 'twinkle' in Ted Arison's eye when The Ocean Liner's reason for existence became just a romantic memory. 
Better still, let's celebrate the fact that Cunard - through Carnival - is still running a trans-Atlantic service then all the other 'old liners' went to the scrapyards years ago.       

Online Andy Holloway

Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #6 on: Dec 17, 2017, 12:06 PM »
Cunard has been an ocean liner company since 1839. Now they only have one true liner in QM2. QV and QE3, even though they are reinforced and thus claimed to be liners, really aren't. But what if they were?

Personally, I would've first named Queen Elizabeth the Queen Elizabeth 3. Second, I'd have designed her and Queen Victoria at their same current dimensions with the same type of accommodations, but with an external appearance that is a mix between QE2 and QM2, while still keeping their same type of "personality" traits that differentiates them (for instance, Victoria would have more of an Edwardian style to her). Basically, they'd actually be designed as ocean liners.  ;D

What do you think? What would you do?

Put more tonic in your Gin!

kevinh

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Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #7 on: Dec 18, 2017, 12:19 AM »
Put more tonic in your Gin!



I don't get what you mean by that... :-\

kevinh

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Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #8 on: Dec 18, 2017, 12:21 AM »
Name should have been retired after QE2.



Yeah, I guess you have a point. But hey: QE3 could always be the last one, then we won't have to go on with QE4, QE5, etc. ::)

trevorc

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Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #9 on: Dec 18, 2017, 10:58 PM »


Yeah, I guess you have a point. But hey: QE3 could always be the last one, then we won't have to go on with QE4, QE5, etc. ::)
Please stop!  :P

kevinh

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Re: QV and QE3 as Ocean Liners
« Reply #10 on: Dec 19, 2017, 03:08 AM »
Please stop!  :P



Ok, sorry. My bad.  ;D


 

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