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Offline pete cain

Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #20 on: Dec 10, 2017, 08:28 PM »
We have booked 2 weeks on her in Feb/Mar next year round New Zealand, as I get older my bulk shrinks  & have invested in a new dinner suit
 I would hate it if some jerk like that was taking the **** out of me trying to keep up the heritage, never ever had anything like that when I was visiting QE2, then again times were obviously different, money talks but some money talks louder methinks.
 Come to think of it we did once come across a loudmouth on Sea Princess  (on our table), never went with them again (yes I know they are the same company)Cunard are supposed to be that 'bit above' though :-X :-X

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Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #21 on: Dec 11, 2017, 03:10 AM »
From everything that I have heard about the QM2, I don't hate her, but I don't love her either.
When the day comes when I see her in person in a port, I most likely would be happy to see her. But it wouldn't be the same reaction as to when I see the QE2 in person someday!

For me, I will have to wait until I take a voyage on her to see how she performs.
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Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #22 on: Dec 11, 2017, 11:44 AM »
From everything that I have heard about the QM2, I don't hate her, but I don't love her either.
When the day comes when I see her in person in a port, I most likely would be happy to see her. But it wouldn't be the same reaction as to when I see the QE2 in person someday!

For me, I will have to wait until I take a voyage on her to see how she performs.

QM2 is very imposing and impressive, even over QE2 (due to being twice the volume roughly).
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Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #23 on: Dec 11, 2017, 01:02 PM »
We have booked 2 weeks on her in Feb/Mar next year round New Zealand, as I get older my bulk shrinks  & have invested in a new dinner suit
 I would hate it if some jerk like that was taking the **** out of me trying to keep up the heritage, never ever had anything like that when I was visiting QE2, then again times were obviously different, money talks but some money talks louder methinks.
 Come to think of it we did once come across a loudmouth on Sea Princess  (on our table), never went with them again (yes I know they are the same company)Cunard are supposed to be that 'bit above' though :-X :-X

A very loose connection through Carnival, but at opposite ends of the 'class' scale. If i remember rightly, Sea Princess is one of the permanent 'Aussie' based ships, so only one 'loudmouth' would have been excellent!

I spent 3 years working for P&O Australia so am perfectly qualified to comment on Aussie passengers, some very nice but some........well!

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Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #24 on: Dec 11, 2017, 02:14 PM »
   Andy,     Unfortunately at the time she was Southampton based doing Med runs, the loudmouth  was Essex type, hey ho,   on our return on Bay of Biscay, there were numerous  arty farty types on board doing some cheap redecorating, because once back in S'oton,  she was going to be rededicated into the P&O fleet by Joanna Lumley apparently, good excuse to be getting off in my opinion  ;D

Offline Greg Rudd

Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #25 on: Dec 12, 2017, 12:34 AM »
My negative views on the QM2 relate more to her interior design, than her hull form or engineering which is solid and conservative. (Hey, I would have liked to have seen her built by H&W but that was too much of a project risk let alone more costly).

As we know, as built, the QE2 was up to the second and far as 1960's interior design and maritime engineering was concerned (did the designers of the Pametrada turbines and Foster Wheeler boilers of the QE2 fully understand how far they were pushing things). She made every ship since 1950 old fashioned, bar the Canberra/Oriana.

Carnival had the chance with the QM2 to make her a statement in early 21st century design by hiring the best UK interior designers and making something really special. But, instead played safe by commissioning Tilberg to execute a 1930's Art Deco revival interior.  I understand why Carnival went the way they did, as most passengers are after that "grand 1930's experience" and under that criteria, the QM2 delivers by the truck load.

In many ways she's a "boring" ship. But that's me as a bit of a ship geek talking.

 
« Last Edit: Dec 12, 2017, 01:53 AM by Greg Rudd »

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Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #26 on: Dec 12, 2017, 12:41 AM »
A very loose connection through Carnival, but at opposite ends of the 'class' scale. If i remember rightly, Sea Princess is one of the permanent 'Aussie' based ships, so only one 'loudmouth' would have been excellent!

I spent 3 years working for P&O Australia so am perfectly qualified to comment on Aussie passengers, some very nice but some........well!

I will call it out for you as an Aussie. You mean: "Load mouthed Bogans" ;-) lol

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« Last Edit: Dec 12, 2017, 02:41 AM by Greg Rudd »

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Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2021, 05:21 AM »
Just been looking up QM2 a bit in order to confirm a fact or two on her, and have come across a rather contradictory post on Cruise Critic from a poster who seems to have a bit of an axe to grind with the "Cunard faithful" (unfortunately a bit of a thing in shipping circles it seems, even in Zoom calls amongst shipping enthusiasts sadly but I digress)…

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2660261-rms-queen-mary-2/?do=findComment&comment=57405529

Surely the definition of an ocean liner has everything to do with design and not itinerary? Form following function as another poster on the Cruise Critic thread mentions?

Why would the cruise ships have be more careful on winter transatlantic crossings, for example, if design requirements didn't matter after all? It isn't just about passenger comfort is it?

Why would Carnival have spent significant sums more on QM2 and her ocean liner features if they could've built a cruise ship instead? - as they had originally intended for the transatlantic until Stephen Payne and his team strongly suggested otherwise if I recall correctly.

QM2's flat underside for a lot of her length doesn't make her any less an ocean liner does it?


Furthermore the following images disprove the poster's story regarding her Skeg (although from experience QM2 still yaws noticeably at times):

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/therealhobgoblin/QM2/PICT0023.jpg   (taken before her first sea trials judging by the status of hull and superstructure painting)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5190/5684830162_bd66f60116.jpg   (taken on her first set of sea trials)
« Last Edit: May 29, 2021, 05:36 AM by Thomas Hypher »
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Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2021, 11:12 AM »
The main thing about an ocean liner is it's designed to go from A to B mostly, rather than A to B to A.

To facilitate that on the Atlantic Queen Mary has a completely unique and very expensive design.  No other cruise ship could do regular transatlantics whatever the weather, and no other has done anything like as many as Mary has.

There's no debate to be had here. She's unique and very specifically and specially designed.
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Offline Pete Dally

Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #29 on: Jun 29, 2021, 06:19 AM »
We sailed Australia on Qm2 for my sons 18th birthday...the cabin steward was amazing..but the waiters and waitresses were extremely sullen and not friendly at all. Didn't matter where we ate the crew were terrible.
The service we gave on QE2 was top notch and 5 star plus..the new crews are terrible..not all obviously.
They were even worse on the new Queen Elizabeth...sad to say I won't be sailing on them again.
Working on QE2 gave me a love for cruising and have done many around the pacific..Cunard just don't cut the mustard anymore which is a shame.

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Re: Negative Opinions of QM2.
« Reply #30 on: Jun 29, 2021, 08:32 PM »
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  QE2 gave me a love for cruising and have done many around the pacific..Cunard just don't cut the mustard anymore which is a shame.
 

My views exactly . i have no interest in the other Cunard ships to sail on. Yes, l will probably cruise again, but it sure as heck won't be with Cunard .  So do please spare me the Oh but try her you will like her or there's a lot about QE2 on them. I trotted down the gangway on 11th November 2008 happy with my lot.
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