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Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« on: Apr 12, 2017, 03:02 PM »
Saga Ruby was beached a couple of hours ago

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« Reply #1 on: Apr 12, 2017, 04:11 PM »
Saga Ruby was beached a couple of hours ago

Very very sad news.

The only consolation is that this will provide employment to a considerable number of people who need it, even though these are dangerous jobs. And that all that constitutes this beautiful ship will be recycled as best as possible.

May her spirit rest in peace...

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« Reply #2 on: Apr 13, 2017, 06:32 AM »
This sad and emotional news is so heartbreaking that I can't even read the posts about her beaching.  :'(
May the memories of her last forever.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 13, 2017, 08:27 AM »
This sad and emotional news is so heartbreaking that I can't even read the posts about her beaching.  :'(
May the memories of her last forever.

Very true! I thought I can handle it as I handled it when good old Norway was beached but obviously it's a difference if you were on a ship just for couple of hours for sightseeing or if you had a great time for two weeks as I had it on Vistafjord.

On one hand I'm very, very sad, on the other I'm so angry on nowadays culture where everything must be bigger, better, more modern and spectacular. The old values like a ship as Vistafjord is only interesting to a bunch of people as we are here in that forum. That's a real shame and for me, I'm completely through with the cruise business in general and will put my focus only on companies who run older ships like Phoenix etc.
So just some emotional thoughts, don't take me too serious!  ::)

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« Reply #4 on: Apr 13, 2017, 10:42 AM »
Anyone fed up with the cruise industry might wish do as i do

Stay in nice hotels and go on great historical (steam) ships for a few hours each day

Lake Lucerne, lake Geneva, Lake Zurich, Lakes Brienz and Thun are good places to start !

Oh, and of course, come to the Clyde for our very own Waverley !

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« Reply #5 on: Apr 13, 2017, 01:57 PM »
Just came across this sad picture on Twitter: https://twitter.com/pknego/status/852419398795091968

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« Reply #8 on: Apr 19, 2017, 08:04 PM »
Also just found this in the ship breaking Group:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10156504749167588&set=gm.10155865707073943&type=3&theater
Any idea when breaking up will commence? This truly is tragic.
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 19, 2017, 09:24 PM »
Sadly no, been really busy the past week, and the information that I do gather from various source is really nothing, apart from the two pictures, I haven't come across anytime at all sadly.

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« Reply #10 on: Apr 19, 2017, 10:58 PM »
I got information that she will not be pulled closer to the beach before end of this month...at current position start of breaking will not be possible. A slow and undignified death...  :-\

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« Reply #11 on: Apr 20, 2017, 12:28 AM »
I got information that she will not be pulled closer to the beach before end of this month...at current position start of breaking will not be possible. A slow and undignified death...  :-\
Indeed, Alang has claimed yet another Liner, I guess they thought they hadn't destroyed enough beautiful ships already... Norway and Saga Ruby both ousted by the cruise industry, hopefully Ruby puts up a fight during scrapping as Canberra did! 
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 20, 2017, 09:36 AM »
Hi Folks,

Not the cheeriest post but I noticed these posted on a Shipbreaking Facebook page this morning (https://www.facebook.com/groups/shipbreaking/)
It might just be the general atmosphere of Alang but there looks to be a small amount of exhaust from her funnel - I wonder if they are still running her generators to provide on board power? Generally they will strip her fixtures and fittings first so they can be sold off before actually cutting any steel - the first sign is when they cut the tip of her bow away - appears to be a ceremonial thing at ship breakers. As already stated she is too far out to start cutting anyway.

Re: Putting up a fight - the Pakistani ship breakers who bought ss Canberra must've regretted it - her deep draught meant she beached a lot further out therefore taking a lot longer to break and cost a lot more too! That was once she had beached at full ahead with bagpipe music playing on her PA system!!

To me this old girl doesn't look ready for this fate - but unfortunately its sealed. Hopefully Peter Knego or someone similar will get some of her fixtures and fittings so the memories live on.....

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« Reply #13 on: Apr 21, 2017, 03:16 AM »
Sad. Such a great ship going to waste.   :(
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« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2017, 08:46 PM »
Well here she is dead & aground, I guess I'm the ghoul who just had to see & post, am so sad at this needless waste after spending so much money,poor girl  http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1047858/cat/523

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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2017, 01:26 AM »
I would buy Saga Ruby. Only if I had 26 thousand dollars.

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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2017, 01:52 AM »
Such a shame !
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2017, 08:43 AM »
At least she still looks like a ship in that picture. They haven't started ripping her to shreds yet :(

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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2017, 01:02 PM »
The she is still beached no cutting has started.
First work onboard has been to removal of all the loose items.

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2017, 01:41 PM »
Update from Alang breaking up has started the timeline to get the job done is 5 Months

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2017, 09:05 PM »
Update from Alang breaking up has started the timeline to get the job done is 5 Months
I'm guessing the Bow Tip has been cut?
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 31, 2017, 06:11 AM »
This is mortifying, and sadly poignant and historical given she is/was the last liner or even cruises ship of any size built in the UK. I checked up on her on Maritime AIS tracking late last year and early this year when her destination was rumoured to be Singapore if I recall correctly. I'm shocked this happened so quickly to a ship that as far as I'm aware was SOLAS compliant but had had main engine problems which in hindsight sealed her fate with SAGA and altogether.
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 04, 2017, 08:15 PM »
Just came across this sad picture on the Facebook Ship Breaking group:




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« Reply #23 on: Aug 04, 2017, 08:31 PM »
That was also my thought when I saw it, I was still hoping for some miracle, since I actually liked the looks of this ship, don't know why.

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« Reply #24 on: Aug 04, 2017, 08:32 PM »
It does not seem that this should have happened at all, let alone this fast. 

What a terrible fate for any ship, let alone Ruby !  :'(
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« Reply #25 on: Aug 04, 2017, 09:26 PM »
Heartbreaking
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« Reply #26 on: Aug 04, 2017, 09:46 PM »
I read recently that the reason she ended up being scrapped so soon and quickly was that the owners who spent loads of money (millions) attempting to turn her into a hotel eventually went bankrupt and just sold her I presume to try and recover some of their investment (or the creditors did so on their behalf as well as selling off their assets). The engine problems she had in the end with Saga would have sealed her fate in regards to further ocean going service, unfortunately.
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« Reply #27 on: Aug 04, 2017, 09:49 PM »
It's a shame she didn't have the much more dignified ending Saga Rose (the old Sagafjord) was given by being recycled away from (most) prying eyes in a dry dock of sorts in mainland China.
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« Reply #28 on: Aug 05, 2017, 02:21 AM »
Years ago, many times, a ship would return to her builder's yard or to another shipyard to be dismantled (broken up). While this was also a very sad occasion for a well known and popular ship, it was a more "die with dignity" ending than being unceremoniously run aground in a distant land and being torn apart.
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« Reply #29 on: Aug 05, 2017, 08:25 AM »
Has Peter Knego gotten anything?

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« Reply #30 on: Aug 06, 2017, 12:49 AM »
Peter Knego announced on his website that he was not going after items from the Saga Ruby/Vistafjord as most of the original fittings had been removed during the hotel refit and replaced by low quality Malaysian items!!!!

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« Reply #31 on: Aug 06, 2017, 02:48 AM »
Peter Knego announced on his website that he was not going after items from the Saga Ruby/Vistafjord as most of the original fittings had been removed during the hotel refit and replaced by low quality Malaysian items!!!!

Bwahaha! If only most of the fittings were there.. I checked out the website and he has a decent lot up for sale.

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« Reply #32 on: Aug 06, 2017, 03:41 PM »
Peter Knego announced on his website that he was not going after items from the Saga Ruby/Vistafjord as most of the original fittings had been removed during the hotel refit and replaced by low quality Malaysian items!!!!

Hi Chris -do you (and/or Peter K, if you are in touch) know whether her Builders' Plate (as Vistafjord), her Bell and the magnificent collection of plaques awarded to her foe each and every maiden voyage etc were left on board?
Thanks,
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QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for what seemed like ages...Please don't leave her looking more like a Hotel-with-a-Hull than the greatest Liner afloat - Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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« Reply #33 on: Aug 06, 2017, 05:51 PM »
Just came across this sad picture on the Facebook Ship Breaking group:
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Oh my God, my cabin's gone!!!

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Hi Chris -do you (and/or Peter K, if you are in touch) know whether her Builders' Plate (as Vistafjord), her Bell and the magnificent collection of plaques awarded to her foe each and every maiden voyage etc were left on board?
Thanks,
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Don't know where all that has gone, the last photos showed the plaques still in place.
Re- the Bell, apparently the origional bell had been badly modified to show all three ship names.
Apparently the ship breaking yard owner loves to keep all the bells and builders plates that come his way!

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« Reply #35 on: Aug 07, 2017, 05:53 PM »
In instances just as this, there should be a "dislike" button as hitting the "like" button just does not seem right... :'(
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« Reply #36 on: Aug 07, 2017, 05:56 PM »
Reminds you of the SS Canberra when she was broken up
I do wonder if perhaps they started from the stern might it be less grotesque
To me it looks as though the ship is being eaten away by a cancer...thoroughly  hellish :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #37 on: Aug 07, 2017, 05:58 PM »
Agreed, Myles !

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Poor Poor girl, what an absolute waste,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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« Reply #39 on: Aug 08, 2017, 02:55 AM »
She had more miles to go!

Sorry to nitpick and be very pedantic, but if we look at things clinically and unsentimentally like Carnival's accountants do, she had major engine problems (failures with one of the gearboxes if I recall correctly) in the end with Saga. As a result she would not have gone many more miles as a seagoing ship without major amounts of money being thrown at her problems. I however agree, if done right (which unfortunately it wasn't), she could have been a very successful tied up hotel ship (powered via shore power) somewhere in the world. Also I agree it's such a waste of a piece of history let alone a great opportunity and she had lots of potential with years of service all be it in a different static role.

The above is irrespective to her SOLAS status which was up-to-date.

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« Reply #40 on: Aug 08, 2017, 03:05 AM »
Sorry to nitpick and be very pedantic, but if we look at things clinically and unsentimentally like Carnival's accountants do, she had major engine problems (failures with one of the gearboxes if I recall correctly) in the end with Saga. As a result she would not have gone many more miles as a seagoing ship without major amounts of money being thrown at her problems. I however agree, if done right (which unfortunately it wasn't), she could have been a very successful tied up hotel ship (powered via shore power) somewhere in the world. Also I agree it's such a waste of a piece of history let alone a great opportunity and she had lots of potential with years of service all be it in a different static role.

The above is irrespective to her SOLAS status which was up-to-date.

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Can't agree anymore. Even if a "Cunard Fanatic" bought her.. tried to restore/replicate her as the caronia..

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« Reply #41 on: Aug 08, 2017, 08:33 AM »
Sorry to nitpick and be very pedantic, but if we look at things clinically and unsentimentally like Carnival's accountants do, she had major engine problems (failures with one of the gearboxes if I recall correctly) in the end with Saga. As a result she would not have gone many more miles as a seagoing ship without major amounts of money being thrown at her problems. I however agree, if done right (which unfortunately it wasn't), she could have been a very successful tied up hotel ship (powered via shore power) somewhere in the world. Also I agree it's such a waste of a piece of history let alone a great opportunity and she had lots of potential with years of service all be it in a different static role.

The above is irrespective to her SOLAS status which was up-to-date.

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She was probably designed for a 25 year life so to get 40+ was pretty good going. I would be interesting to see what the engineers who designed and built her (if they are still alive) have to say.

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« Reply #42 on: Aug 08, 2017, 09:08 AM »
She was probably designed for a 25 year life so to get 40+ was pretty good going. I would be interesting to see what the engineers who designed and built her (if they are still alive) have to say.

Just in case there is anybody out there who doesn't know, Vistafjord, which she was built as, was the last ocean liner/cruise ship to be built in the UK. She was built by Swan Hunter at their Neptune Yard on Tyneside in 1973. 

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Just in case there is anybody out there who doesn't know, Vistafjord, which she was built as, was the last ocean liner/cruise ship to be built in the UK. She was built by Swan Hunter at their Neptune Yard on Tyneside in 1973.

Which is probably why she lasted as long as she did. I always wondered how the various British yards product stacked up against each other.

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« Reply #44 on: Aug 08, 2017, 03:22 PM »
Which is probably why she lasted as long as she did. I always wondered how the various British yards product stacked up against each other.

When i was on Vistafjord we had a 3rd Engineer who's father had been part of the work force that built her, he was only a 'tacker' back then but said he could remember going down to see her launched.

Sadly i can't remember his name though.

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« Reply #45 on: Aug 08, 2017, 04:54 PM »
damn nice ship! Great fun to sail on as a passenger. Yes busmans holiday!

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« Reply #46 on: Sep 04, 2017, 11:07 PM »
Just came across this sad picture on the Facebook Ship Breaking group:
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I know i'm late to the party but I just want to express how disgusted I am at this appalling disregard for Saga Ruby and her impact on maritime history; This genuinely pains me to see her go to the wreckers, she isn't like old Aquitania who was so corroded she was physically incapable of being saved, Ruby had years left to her, whether that had been as a hotel or cruise ship, but sadly Alang claims another victim.
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« Reply #47 on: Sep 05, 2017, 06:37 PM »
Well said, Oceanic !
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« Reply #48 on: Sep 07, 2017, 04:41 PM »
I know i'm late to the party but I just want to express how disgusted I am at this appalling disregard for Saga Ruby and her impact on maritime history; This genuinely pains me to see her go to the wreckers, she isn't like old Aquitania who was so corroded she was physically incapable of being saved, Ruby had years left to her, whether that had been as a hotel or cruise ship, but sadly Alang claims another victim.
Rest easy old girl.  :(
       

I think that you're letting emotions get in the way of hard facts - whatever you want to call her - Vistafjord/Caronia/Saga Ruby - she was at the end of her economical life, and had been heading that way for some years, even in her Cunard days she was 'old fashioned' and below decks was not a nice place to be, believe me!
Also, her engine/machinery spaces were in serious need of very expensive works, she had a few hundred tons of concrete put in her some years ago to make her comply with stability regulations in force at the time, why do you think she was re-flagged?
Her only storing door was so small that ALL pallets had to be broken down and loaded individually, box by box!!

I loved her as much as the next man/woman but, like a much loved pet that is suffering in it's old age, the kindest thing to do is, let it go and enjoy the many, many wonderful memories you had with it.

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« Reply #49 on: Sep 07, 2017, 11:58 PM »
I think that you're letting emotions get in the way of hard facts - whatever you want to call her - Vistafjord/Caronia/Saga Ruby - she was at the end of her economical life, and had been heading that way for some years, even in her Cunard days she was 'old fashioned' and below decks was not a nice place to be, believe me!
Also, her engine/machinery spaces were in serious need of very expensive works, she had a few hundred tons of concrete put in her some years ago to make her comply with stability regulations in force at the time, why do you think she was re-flagged?
Her only storing door was so small that ALL pallets had to be broken down and loaded individually, box by box!!

I loved her as much as the next man/woman but, like a much loved pet that is suffering in it's old age, the kindest thing to do is, let it go and enjoy the many, many wonderful memories you had with it.
Oh I fully understand that she was at the end of her service life and the difficulty's that arise when trying to keep an antiquated piece of machinery like S.R operational, along with the costs involved due to working with vintage machinery all of my working life; Ruby was pulled, by Saga, from operations due to the ever rising expenses and I hold no grudge against them for doing so, it's basic business sense to cut off an aging and ailing asset, however I do have an issue with the people involved in the aborted hotel conversion plan. They bought an incredibly aged vessel with seemingly no forethought to the costs involved with the conversion and running of Ruby as a hotel, and after they had already replaced most of her furniture and presumably disposed of it, destroying historically valuable items, did they change their minds and scrap the entire ship. S.G's scrapping may have been unavoidable, it was a aged vessel with many issues, but that does NOT lend any credibility to the total disregard that was shown towards the ships many items that were discarded of, items that were of great craftsmanship and historical value and that should have been removed and sold on.   
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« Reply #50 on: Sep 08, 2017, 05:42 AM »
Also, to add to the above conversation, I believe the final act that made Saga sell her was the fact she had major engine problems in her last year or so of Saga service - just checked, on one of the occasions of a cancelled cruise (her last world cruise) one of her crankshafts failed or was faulty.
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« Reply #51 on: Sep 08, 2017, 09:32 AM »
Oh I fully understand that she was at the end of her service life and the difficulty's that arise when trying to keep an antiquated piece of machinery like S.R operational, along with the costs involved due to working with vintage machinery all of my working life; Ruby was pulled, by Saga, from operations due to the ever rising expenses and I hold no grudge against them for doing so, it's basic business sense to cut off an aging and ailing asset, however I do have an issue with the people involved in the aborted hotel conversion plan. They bought an incredibly aged vessel with seemingly no forethought to the costs involved with the conversion and running of Ruby as a hotel, and after they had already replaced most of her furniture and presumably disposed of it, destroying historically valuable items, did they change their minds and scrap the entire ship. S.G's scrapping may have been unavoidable, it was a aged vessel with many issues, but that does NOT lend any credibility to the total disregard that was shown towards the ships many items that were discarded of, items that were of great craftsmanship and historical value and that should have been removed and sold on.

Your overlooking that ship's furniture is replaced on regular occasions due to changes in styles and fire regulations. When she was 'converted' from Vistafjord to Caronia in 1999 most of the old NAL style fixtures & fittings were removed and replaced with items more in keeping with the 'Cunardisation' of her.
 

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« Reply #52 on: Sep 08, 2017, 11:45 AM »
Your overlooking that ship's furniture is replaced on regular occasions due to changes in styles and fire regulations. When she was 'converted' from Vistafjord to Caronia in 1999 most of the old NAL style fixtures & fittings were removed and replaced with items more in keeping with the 'Cunardisation' of her.

You also can't use poilshed wood, right?

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« Reply #53 on: Sep 08, 2017, 05:36 PM »
You also can't use poilshed wood, right?


It depends on where and why,.

Bare wood, polished, would represent a fire hazard, or if it's on decks then it would/could constitute a slip hazard, then it's a big 'No, No'.

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #54 on: Sep 16, 2017, 02:42 AM »
Her funnel is undisturbed.. Photos credit to Vaja Nilesh

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #55 on: Sep 16, 2017, 04:38 PM »
Why oh why oh why do I torture myself looking at these images....................

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #56 on: Sep 16, 2017, 11:33 PM »
Her funnel is undisturbed.. Photos credit to Vaja Nilesh

Oh no my cabin's gone!!!!

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #57 on: Sep 17, 2017, 02:15 AM »
I'm suprised that she didn't have a bulbous bow.l

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« Reply #58 on: Sep 17, 2017, 10:20 AM »
She was 'conceived' and built in the early 70s, long before bulbous bows were 'invented'.

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #59 on: Sep 17, 2017, 11:04 AM »
She was 'conceived' and built in the early 70s, long before bulbous bows were 'invented'.

But QE2 was conceived in the 60s and has one!
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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #60 on: Sep 17, 2017, 12:13 PM »
But QE2 was conceived in the 60s and has one!

True, they were in existence as far back as WW1, but only became more regularly incorporated into ship design when speed and fuel efficiency became more relevant as ships became larger and these factors became more critical.

Maybe i should have said 'more commonly used' or 'improved'.

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #61 on: Sep 17, 2017, 08:19 PM »
Norwegian America Line does not seem to have been a fan of bulbous bows as neither their two ships before Vistafjord (Sagafjord and Bergensfjord) had one.

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #62 on: Jan 06, 2019, 12:35 AM »
There was a  photo of Saga Ruby on the beaches of Alang was posted on the Ocean Liners Society's Facebook page yesterday.
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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #63 on: Jan 06, 2019, 02:29 AM »
There was a  photo of Saga Ruby on the beaches of Alang was posted on the Ocean Liners Society's Facebook page yesterday.

A sad image taken shortly after she was beached back in 2017. She is all long gone now apart from what would be found in the markets at Alang that sell/have a massive variety of things from the ships, even lifeboats, and what may or may not have been salvaged by Peter Knego :( . I haven't heard of anything in regards to what he may have been able to salvage unless anyone knows otherwise?
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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #64 on: Jan 06, 2019, 01:35 PM »
Peter Knego commented on Maritime Matters that he would not be pursuing fittings from the Saga Ruby/Vistafjord as he understood that most of the origional fittings were removed during the hotel conversion work in Thailand.

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #65 on: Jan 06, 2019, 02:21 PM »
Peter Knego commented on Maritime Matters that he would not be pursuing fittings from the Saga Ruby/Vistafjord as he understood that most of the original fittings were removed during the hotel conversion work in Thailand.

Had he bothered to read my post of 8th Sept 2017 he would have known that they had gone long before that, some as far back as 1998!

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« Reply #66 on: Jan 07, 2019, 12:33 AM »
Sad to hear in both cases as the chances of things being around for those interested in collecting and fans of the ship are much slimmer :(
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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #67 on: Jan 07, 2019, 07:12 PM »
Mind you some things were 'liberated' from the dry dock when she changed from Vistafjord to Caronia.

My 3 children had been on the summer and, as there was a 2 for 1 deal on that particular cruise, all the single cabins hadn't been sold, for obvious reasons. There they were each allocated a single cabin.

When we were dry dock in Bremmerhaven and the de-Vistafjording was underway i persuaded the contractor who was changing the glass fingers panels/cabin numbers to let me have the three from my children's cabin.
They had them on their bedroom doors until long after they had left home and gone to uni, now they are in our family 'Cunard Memorabilia' box! 

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Re: Saga Ruby / Oasis in Alang
« Reply #68 on: Jan 07, 2019, 09:31 PM »
Such a waste, but it was inevitable that her time was coming.