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Offline Oceanic

Queen Mary Island
« on: Apr 18, 2017, 02:52 PM »
http://www.queenmary.com/queen-mary-island/

Although I'm sure most have heard of this update on QM and her berth I wanted to post it here to see what your opinions are on Queen Mary Island; It seems that not only will this revive the area around QM but also focus on repairing the damage caused by the years of neglect and preserving her for many years to come, i'd be interested to hear peoples opinions on the matter and whether Long Beach will deliver what it promises.   


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Offline Trevor Casey

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #1 on: Apr 18, 2017, 06:44 PM »
I like this. This should be able to give her more revenue and polish her up!
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Offline cunardqueen

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #2 on: Apr 18, 2017, 08:16 PM »
ANYTHING will be an improvement on what is there already, now the submarine they just need to get rid of that somehow..
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Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #3 on: Apr 18, 2017, 08:39 PM »
Is building a 200 room hotel next to the Queen Mary a great idea?

However, they do need to stop thinking about Queen Mary as a standalone profit/loss object - she's an attraction and a reason to visit a place.  Money doesn't need to spent ON her, just AT her.
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Offline Bob van Leeuwen

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #4 on: Apr 19, 2017, 12:19 PM »
I do hope they move the utility lines down a bit, currently from what I have seen on photograhs they are visible from shore with relative ease. On the Rotterdam they moved them lower so it is really hard to spot them, you need to be looking for them to see them.

Offline Trevor Casey

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #5 on: Apr 19, 2017, 07:07 PM »
Is building a 200 room hotel next to the Queen Mary a great idea?

However, they do need to stop thinking about Queen Mary as a standalone profit/loss object - she's an attraction and a reason to visit a place.  Money doesn't need to spent ON her, just AT her.

Rob, what about her structural integrity? Aren't there beams rusting inside?
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Offline Oceanic

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #6 on: Apr 19, 2017, 07:46 PM »
Rob, what about her structural integrity? Aren't there beams rusting inside?
I have heard her steel beams are in a state of corrosion, her structural integrity is not helped by the many structural struts and beams removed during the Long Beach conversion, I wonder if it would be possible to reinstate them or if it's too late. 
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Offline Trevor Casey

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #7 on: Apr 19, 2017, 07:48 PM »
I have heard her steel beams are in a state of corrosion, her structural integrity is not helped by the many structural struts and beams removed during the Long Beach conversion, I wonder if it would be possible to reinstate them or if it's too late.

I just don't want to see her collapse.
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Offline Oceanic

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #8 on: Apr 19, 2017, 07:51 PM »
Is building a 200 room hotel next to the Queen Mary a great idea?

However, they do need to stop thinking about Queen Mary as a standalone profit/loss object - she's an attraction and a reason to visit a place.  Money doesn't need to spent ON her, just AT her.
I think the whole idea with the Hotel is to be overflow for Mary, if QM Island is too be as successful as they hope the area will need more rooms than QM provides currently; if done right it will simply provide more rooms alongside QM and not detract from her attendance numbers.
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Offline Oceanic

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #9 on: Apr 19, 2017, 07:54 PM »
I just don't want to see her collapse.
If the maintenance they promise does happen she won't, however if she is left in her current state she will, I'm a Engineer and having visited her I can tell you shes not in a good way, her beams are of the same quality as steel that has been underwater for 30 odd years not a "Cherished" attraction.
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Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #10 on: Apr 20, 2017, 08:48 AM »
Rob, what about her structural integrity? Aren't there beams rusting inside?

Sorry I realise I wasn't clear what I meant .... "it shouldn't just be the money spent by visitors on board her that goes towards her running".  That's always been the mistake. She may not actually be profit making in herself, but she's a major attraction to bring people to that entire area, spending their money.
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Offline cunardqueen

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #11 on: Apr 20, 2017, 06:04 PM »
The trouble with Queen Mary is shes a hotel , conference/wedding venue and an attraction. Three types of customers. The hotel side mean guests are staying on her because they WANT to stay.Granted there are tour groups, but again they are staying beacuse its Queen Mary. Its not as though theres a great other reason to stay.

 Conferences are generally 9am -3pm things break for lunch and away they go. They also take up one of the lounges so visitors wont get a chance to see that side. And the wedding side is a room that you wont get into see fully. With weddings you have the invited few and a meal afterwards. how many of those are expected to stay on QM.

 Indeed with the Cunard Brides at sea, just how many extra guests are they getting sailing on a wedding trip.6, 10,50,200 ? 
A hotel on the location of Queen Mary island , are we talking a Motel 6 or Marriott. There might be trade from the cruise ships leaving from San Diego, but at the moment there is no reason at all to go the Queen Mary unless you are going to see her, theres nothing else down there.

The day trippers venture onboard take a tour or just have a look around and l do often wonder if they get what they are seeing, l keep saying to really experience her you need to stay the night. Iv stayed the past two Christmas day nights and shes been full, a fact l still cant quite believe, who stays in a hotel on Christmas day night ?
Her Sunday brunch consistantly voted the best in Southern California is still crowd pulling and one of the best.

It would be nice to see in time, part of the gangway structure pulled down, that bit is hard on the eyes and tends to hide the wonder of seeing Queen Mary in her glory. and the fact is the stern end top tiers are hardly used, and the long walkway between the tiers again hardly used.
I do hope the Queen Mary island ventures goes ahead, it will bring much needed visitors to that part of town, but come what may l will always be staying onboard  Hotel Queen Mary. 

And if you have read thus far, do click on the link and see whats shes all about, it might, just might surprise you.

  http://www.queenmary.com/ 
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Offline Oceanic

Re: Queen Mary Island
« Reply #12 on: Apr 21, 2017, 12:11 AM »
The trouble with Queen Mary is shes a hotel , conference/wedding venue and an attraction. Three types of customers. The hotel side mean guests are staying on her because they WANT to stay.Granted there are tour groups, but again they are staying beacuse its Queen Mary. Its not as though theres a great other reason to stay.

 Conferences are generally 9am -3pm things break for lunch and away they go. They also take up one of the lounges so visitors wont get a chance to see that side. And the wedding side is a room that you wont get into see fully. With weddings you have the invited few and a meal afterwards. how many of those are expected to stay on QM.

 Indeed with the Cunard Brides at sea, just how many extra guests are they getting sailing on a wedding trip.6, 10,50,200 ? 
A hotel on the location of Queen Mary island , are we talking a Motel 6 or Marriott. There might be trade from the cruise ships leaving from San Diego, but at the moment there is no reason at all to go the Queen Mary unless you are going to see her, theres nothing else down there.

The day trippers venture onboard take a tour or just have a look around and l do often wonder if they get what they are seeing, l keep saying to really experience her you need to stay the night. Iv stayed the past two Christmas day nights and shes been full, a fact l still cant quite believe, who stays in a hotel on Christmas day night ?
Her Sunday brunch consistantly voted the best in Southern California is still crowd pulling and one of the best.

It would be nice to see in time, part of the gangway structure pulled down, that bit is hard on the eyes and tends to hide the wonder of seeing Queen Mary in her glory. and the fact is the stern end top tiers are hardly used, and the long walkway between the tiers again hardly used.
I do hope the Queen Mary island ventures goes ahead, it will bring much needed visitors to that part of town, but come what may l will always be staying onboard  Hotel Queen Mary. 

And if you have read thus far, do click on the link and see whats shes all about, it might, just might surprise you.

  http://www.queenmary.com/ 
Well said! Fully onboard with the removal of the gangways they are rather unsightly and ruin the view of her from the ground.
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