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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #120 on: Oct 22, 2017, 08:54 PM »
Starting to look promising but I disagree with the lifeboats. Perhaps three midship lifeboats port and starboard with the decks from boat deck up extended fore and aft to full-beam would be a compromise.

That would ruin her sleek lines I'm afraid.
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« Reply #121 on: Oct 22, 2017, 09:02 PM »
Ok, same as above three lifeboats midship with the superstructure as it is or sundeck extended as balconies.
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« Reply #122 on: Oct 22, 2017, 09:13 PM »
They could build “faux” lifeboats..
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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #123 on: Oct 22, 2017, 10:36 PM »
I personally think all or nothing (as they have done) is the best way as any compromise will spoil her sleek lines as it will just not look right.
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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #124 on: Oct 22, 2017, 10:45 PM »
Quite a few older ferries have had some of their lifeboats and davits removed for several reasons, as well as some older cruise ships - and they never look quite right in terms of their lines as they were designed with a full complement of lifeboats/tenders and davits. That's why I think a compromise would spoil QE2's appearance unnecessarily. Anyway we're starting to go off topic since this topic is for factual photos and discussion of the ship. Can mods make a separate topic for this? It's an interesting discussion to have.
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« Reply #125 on: Oct 22, 2017, 11:17 PM »
She needs the lifeboats to provide shade.
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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #126 on: Oct 22, 2017, 11:25 PM »
She needs the lifeboats to provide shade.

No she doesnt it

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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #127 on: Oct 22, 2017, 11:32 PM »
No she doesnt it

I tell you what.  Having stood on that deck in Dubai, they were blooming useful!  I pretty much ran from one to the next for shade.  I saw the same thing on the Med - the shady seats under the lifeboats were the most sought after.
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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #128 on: Oct 22, 2017, 11:37 PM »
Probably also depends on the person, are they wearing sunscreen? are they wearing appropriate clothes (sun hat etc.?). I would hazard a guess that the locals in Dubai are used to their climate and they wouldn't need the lifeboats for the great shade they used to offer (I remember that on my several Med trips).
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« Reply #129 on: Oct 23, 2017, 11:22 AM »
Some years ago My late wife and I were in Cyprus early December we were in shorts & tee shirts vocals were wearing Winter coats , saying how cold it was Getting

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« Reply #130 on: Oct 23, 2017, 02:12 PM »
I tell you what.  Having stood on that deck in Dubai, they were blooming useful!  I pretty much ran from one to the next for shade.  I saw the same thing on the Med - the shady seats under the lifeboats were the most sought after.

Rob - Yes!
Not only could they protect people enjoying the Boat Deck for views etc, and shelter from the high sun - they could also afford some protection in the now exposed areas against the inevitable grim dusty, sandy winds. 
I wonder how much additional protection against windy (as well as sunny) conditions her open decks, balconies etc may need....
All the open decks at the stern, as well as the fo'c'stle/ foreedeck will be exposed....

They could build “faux” lifeboats..

This Ship Needs her Own tenders - certainly not Faux / Fake ones - or fake anything else for that matter :)
There is absolutely no reason (other than a few UAE$) why they can't be re-installed - so, new davits? Yes.
New tenders, lifeboats, and FRBs -  NO!

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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #131 on: Oct 23, 2017, 04:38 PM »
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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #132 on: Oct 24, 2017, 07:07 AM »
Rob - Yes!
Not only could they protect people enjoying the Boat Deck for views etc, and shelter from the high sun - they could also afford some protection in the now exposed areas against the inevitable grim dusty, sandy winds. 
I wonder how much additional protection against windy (as well as sunny) conditions her open decks, balconies etc may need....
All the open decks at the stern, as well as the fo'c'stle/ foreedeck will be exposed....

This Ship Needs her Own tenders - certainly not Faux / Fake ones - or fake anything else for that matter :)
There is absolutely no reason (other than a few UAE$) why they can't be re-installed - so, new davits? Yes.
New tenders, lifeboats, and FRBs -  NO!

Each davit was unique given the load it was to carry, the type of lifeboat/tender it held, and where it was situated on the boat deck. It would be very expensive to remake them and then maintain the replica's. Dubai will not go to that expense on something that'd be lost on most people. Expense of maintenance of the albeit now static systems purely for safety reasons was one of the reasons the lifeboats, tenders and davits were removed. As much as I hate the fact the lifeboats, tenders, and davits were removed as I think her appearance has been spoilt, I can now see why it was done besides supposedly needing more event space.

I do agree that QE2 does not need anything fake onboard as that will spoil her.
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Re: Lifeboats/Davits Removal 2016 and Discussion After That
« Reply #133 on: Oct 24, 2017, 09:26 PM »
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I do agree that QE2 does not need anything fake onboard as that will spoil her.
   

There might well be enough of that on QE2 with her remodelling or remastering or whever the heck they are calling it...
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