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Will Crystal Cruises get the SS United States sailing again?

Yes
2 (6.3%)
No
16 (50%)
Don't know
14 (43.8%)

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Online Rob Lightbody

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What do you think?  Will Crystal Cruises get the SS United States sailing again?

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No,can't see it happening

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Sounds (and looks) a bit unrealistic.

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Seems like a publicity stunt to me but if they do put her to sea again I hope they don't do what their artist impression shows. It would not be SS United States if they butcher her profile.
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Offline Chris Frame

I think it's an excellent way to give an old neglected ship a second chance at life. Good luck to them. Here's hoping.

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I put down don't know because it really could go either way. I agree with Chris. I wish them the best.
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I wish them the best of luck and anything is better than Alang.  But adding three balcony decks to an already low ocean liner profile makes The Big U look somewhat like the old Fall River Line steamers.  The lifeboats set amidships gives the illusion of a side wheeler housing that the older Fall River ships had.
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Offline Roy Warrender

Rob can you check results of the poll it seems to be inaccurate I know more than i person Has voted yes

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Rob can you check results of the poll it seems to be inaccurate I know more than i person Has voted yes

Maybe someone changed their mind and their vote?

Offline Roy Warrender

I agree one can change ones opinion but with a poll once you have voted that vote should stand and not be changed to go with the flow

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  I agree one can change ones opinion but with a poll once you have voted that vote should stand and not be changed to go with the flow   


I agree, and while we are at it, lets remove the dont know option...its an easy cop out, we either think she will sail again or she wont. or are we going back to the Henry Ford days, you can have any colour you like as long as its black.   Lets put some adventure into the thing.
Im sure l voted Yes...
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Offline Roy Warrender

If you did then I'm not on my own
I hope they get her back to sea but only if it is the United States with new engines etc , But not with the hull modified and altered
I,m not a purist as long as the external view is correct and the interior represents the original thats Ok by me

Offline highlander0108

I am convinced this is really going to happen for a few key reasons.  First, the cruise line has gone way out of its way in promoting this and has been working with the Conservancy behind the scenes for awhile.  To walk this back 9 months from now will be embarrassing, but they did leave the door open, as any smart minded company would.  Second, they have been up front from the beginning with the costs, so they already are assuming that they are going to be spending the equivalent amount to a completely new ship and have factored this into their calculations. 

So if one assumes this is viable, the discussion then should focus on the engineering side of things. Do they really intend for her to still have high speed capability?  If so, I am guessing that a QE2 style DG arrangement is necessary.  The question then is will this be a 2 or 4 prop deal.  I'm guessing it will be 2 propellers with the outboard 2 removed ala Norway.  I suppose you could go with pods, but the stern is going to have to have the flat sections added.  I am guessing that due to the latest stability regs, stuff is going to have to be added anyway.  In any event, it is going to be an interested story to follow.
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I am convinced this is really going to happen for a few key reasons.  First, the cruise line has gone way out of its way in promoting this and has been working with the Conservancy behind the scenes for awhile.  To walk this back 9 months from now will be embarrassing, but they did leave the door open, as any smart minded company would.  Second, they have been up front from the beginning with the costs, so they already are assuming that they are going to be spending the equivalent amount to a completely new ship and have factored this into their calculations. 

So if one assumes this is viable, the discussion then should focus on the engineering side of things. Do they really intend for her to still have high speed capability?  If so, I am guessing that a QE2 style DG arrangement is necessary.  The question then is will this be a 2 or 4 prop deal.  I'm guessing it will be 2 propellers with the outboard 2 removed ala Norway.  I suppose you could go with pods, but the stern is going to have to have the flat sections added.  I am guessing that due to the latest stability regs, stuff is going to have to be added anyway.  In any event, it is going to be an interested story to follow.

I should know the answer to this... but did she have stabilisers?  I'm thinking they'll want to at least add(?) bow thrusters.  And yes, I'd been thinking a Diesel-electric setup similar to QE2's is surely the way to go, and yes two props would still allow her to be high speed (relative to cruise ships, not her former self!).
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Offline Scott Ebersold

I thought this was an interesting insider perspective.

https://markbperry.wordpress.com/2016/02/08/ship-of-stars-reborn/

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Thanks, Scott.  This is a very thoughtful and well written article.

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Offline highlander0108

I should know the answer to this... but did she have stabilisers?  I'm thinking they'll want to at least add(?) bow thrusters.  And yes, I'd been thinking a Diesel-electric setup similar to QE2's is surely the way to go, and yes two props would still allow her to be high speed (relative to cruise ships, not her former self!).

She never had stabilizers installed, although she was a good roller.  I believe this was mentioned in the book A Man and His Ship.
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I am convinced this is really going to happen for a few key reasons.  First, the cruise line has gone way out of its way in promoting this and has been working with the Conservancy behind the scenes for awhile.  To walk this back 9 months from now will be embarrassing, but they did leave the door open, as any smart minded company would.  Second, they have been up front from the beginning with the costs, so they already are assuming that they are going to be spending the equivalent amount to a completely new ship and have factored this into their calculations. 

So if one assumes this is viable, the discussion then should focus on the engineering side of things. Do they really intend for her to still have high speed capability?  If so, I am guessing that a QE2 style DG arrangement is necessary.  The question then is will this be a 2 or 4 prop deal.  I'm guessing it will be 2 propellers with the outboard 2 removed ala Norway.  I suppose you could go with pods, but the stern is going to have to have the flat sections added.  I am guessing that due to the latest stability regs, stuff is going to have to be added anyway.  In any event, it is going to be an interested story to follow.

It certainly seems more realistic than the Norwegian bid, and I can't see the Conservancy entering into such an agreement without feeling like it was a realistic idea.
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Offline Roy Warrender

Moderators Can you remove the poll results from the top of this thread Its not upto date

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Rob and Roy, do you want us to reset at zero and start the voting again?

Now that I am here, I just want to add that I voted "don't know". I honestly don't know. I have not taken the time to inform myself properly about these matters, but I still wanted to cast my vote, meaning "I have been here, I have read what has been written, but I cannot make up my mind on this basis". If there had been an "abstain" button, I suppose that would have expressed my "non-views" even better :) .
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