Author Topic: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?  (Read 25307 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Rob Lightbody

  • Administrator
  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 12323
  • Total likes: 15821
  • Helping to Keep The Legend Alive
    • Rob Lightbody dot com
Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #60 on: Jun 10, 2015, 10:08 PM »
So can we deduce that a deal has been done and QE2 is safe for ever more, and shes heading down to Rio.. :o
you can deduce that if you like! [emoji2]
Passionate about QE2's service life for 40 years and creator of this website.  I have worked in IT for 28 years and created my personal QE2 website in 1994.

Offline Bruce Nicholls

Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #61 on: Jun 10, 2015, 11:25 PM »
you can deduce that if you like! [emoji2]
I deduce that we are all still guessing?

Offline June Ingram

  • Global Moderator
  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 9533
  • Total likes: 6469
  • Beautiful, elegant QE2 - forever Queen of the Seas
Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #62 on: Jun 11, 2015, 05:04 PM »
Any further deducing ?   ;D
QE2 - the ship for all of time, a ship of timeless beauty !

Online Peter Mugridge

  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 3600
  • Total likes: 3436
  • At Mach 2 three days after being on QE2...
Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #63 on: Jun 11, 2015, 09:13 PM »
Any further deducing ?   ;D

I deduce that we cannot possibly deduce yet what will happen.

All we can deduce is that she won't stay where she is forever.  Elementary, my dear forumites.
"It is a capital mistake to allow any mechanical object to realise that you are in a hurry!"

Offline skilly56

Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #64 on: Jun 11, 2015, 11:13 PM »
Why wont Cunard/Carnival save QE2?

Simple - Cunard is an American company, controlled by the bean counters and the bottom line.
Why would they want to blow money on a UK floating heritage site?

If it was still an English company, then sentimentality, the 'feel-good' factor, & public goodwill would have a strong showing,
and they make all the difference.
Just look at how many people contribute to keeping Avro Vulcan XH558 airborne every year.

Skilly

Offline PaulInuk

Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #65 on: Feb 20, 2016, 04:32 PM »
Its alll arinsons fault
paul

Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #66 on: Feb 20, 2016, 06:14 PM »
It is sad that Cunard/Carnival cannot do more for QE2.  From a business point of view she is no longer their ship, but she is still a famous Cunard ship, and seeing her in an unkept condition, does reflect on Cunard. 

We have had some interesting comments on this topic and it would be good to hear more of our members' opinions
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,6693.msg70525.html#msg70525
I was proud to be involved with planning QE2's 50 year conference in September 2017 in Clydebank

Offline Hank Hargrove

  • Princess Grill Diner
  • ****
  • Posts: 560
  • Total likes: 335
  • Christ follower, liner lover, and Okie.
Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #67 on: Feb 26, 2016, 02:59 AM »
Why wont Cunard/Carnival save QE2?

Simple - Cunard is an American company, controlled by the bean counters and the bottom line.
Why would they want to blow money on a UK floating heritage site?

If it was still an English company, then sentimentality, the 'feel-good' factor, & public goodwill would have a strong showing,
and they make all the difference.
Just look at how many people contribute to keeping Avro Vulcan XH558 airborne every year.

Skilly

I agree. Sadly, most shipping lines have treated things purely as business, including Carnival Corporation, but the QE2 might still be a big enough name to influence things, whether or not Cunard is owned by Carnival. Shipping lines in general have been more in it for the money than for the preservation aspects, and many people don't have regret until after everyone realizes what has been lost. There are exceptions. NYK took back control of the Hikawa Maru about 10 years ago and Cunard has been involved in some way with three hotel ship projects. One has come to naught, one is uncertain, and one has been successful on and off in "Californian Exile" as John Maxine-Graham put it (and Cunard might have sold the Queen Mary for scrap had the Long Beach bid not come along). P&O did sell the Oriana for further use and it ultimately took a typhoon to destroy the Oriana. They did sell the Canberra for scrap (much to my regret), but I don't know if there was a serious preservation bid anyhow.
« Last Edit: Feb 26, 2016, 03:11 AM by Hank Hargrove »
The cross: The supreme symbol of love.

SS United States forever.

Online Peter Mugridge

  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 3600
  • Total likes: 3436
  • At Mach 2 three days after being on QE2...
Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #68 on: Feb 26, 2016, 07:53 AM »
Given the way Canberra's demise was announced at short notice, I doubt there would have been time for anyone to get a bid together?
"It is a capital mistake to allow any mechanical object to realise that you are in a hurry!"

Offline Derek Boyd

Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #69 on: Feb 26, 2016, 11:32 AM »
I agree very much with Lynda Bradford's posting of 20th February 2016. She has summed up perfectly my own thoughts on this issue.
When I read my copy of 'Cunarder' about how wonderful QE2 was for Cunard, and her contribution and place in history through their 175 years, it makes me choke that here we are with their 'much loved QE2' (sarcasm) lying in a somewhat abandoned state with a very uncertain future.
It makes absolutely no sense to read this drivel. I don't believe a word of what they are saying and I would tell them that in person if I had the chance. Pitiful. 'much loved' Oh really?? Strange way of showing love.

Offline Hank Hargrove

  • Princess Grill Diner
  • ****
  • Posts: 560
  • Total likes: 335
  • Christ follower, liner lover, and Okie.
Re: Why won't Cunard / Carnival save the QE2 ?
« Reply #70 on: Apr 01, 2016, 11:56 PM »
Given the way Canberra's demise was announced at short notice, I doubt there would have been time for anyone to get a bid together?

I doubt there was time, although I believe someone said that there had been talk of one (probably not serious). I wouldn't know, though. I probably saw it on the internet and I was only two when the Canberra sailed off into the sunset...
The cross: The supreme symbol of love.

SS United States forever.