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Offline Michael Gallagher

The two 60,000-ton, 26-knot ships were to be built to undertake world cruises and offer 940 berths each in all outside cabins - with the standard size of 21 metres and70% featuring balconies. The cabin configuration was to consist of two Owner’s Suites, 12 Royal Suites, 12 regular suites, 32 demi-suites, 280 staterooms with balcony and 142 staterooms with window. The main showroom was to hold 850 while the main Dining Room would offer single-seating dining with a capacity of 960. Other public rooms would include a Computer Learning Centre, Cinema, Business Centre, Library, Card Room, Cigar Room, Nursery and an indoor swimming pool. The two ships would  enter service in June 2000 and June 2001 and one ship would be targeted at the UK market while the other was aimed at the US market. Preliminary names for the ships, which were never formally decided on, were the Britannia and the America given their target markets and historical maritime resonance. When news leaked of possible new Cunarders, the UK press announced that Cunard were to call them the Britannia and the Queen Mary and then a story appeared that The Queen had declined the name the Britannia thinking it too close to the 1997 retirement of the Royal Yacht Britannia – whatever names would have been given can only be guessed at now.

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Fantastic information Michael. Do any artist's impressions survive?
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I have never seen them if they do but I think you can take Crystal Harmony / Crystal Symphony as an indicator of how these would have looked. The latter was built by the shipyard these two were going to be built at.

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Never knew about this. Then again, they didn't need those ships with the arrival of QM2. Neat facts!

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I have never seen them if they do but I think you can take Crystal Harmony / Crystal Symphony as an indicator of how these would have looked. The latter was built by the shipyard these two were going to be built at.

Built in-house then  ;) (pre Carnival). Could've been the first and only Cunarders built in Finland to date too! Fascinating even if they wouldn't necessarily have been Ocean Liners due to their purpose.
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Offline Andy Holloway

The two 60,000-ton, 26-knot ships were to be built to undertake world cruises and offer 940 berths each in all outside cabins - with the standard size of 21 metres and70% featuring balconies. The cabin configuration was to consist of two Owner’s Suites, 12 Royal Suites, 12 regular suites, 32 demi-suites, 280 staterooms with balcony and 142 staterooms with window. The main showroom was to hold 850 while the main Dining Room would offer single-seating dining with a capacity of 960. Other public rooms would include a Computer Learning Centre, Cinema, Business Centre, Library, Card Room, Cigar Room, Nursery and an indoor swimming pool. The two ships would  enter service in June 2000 and June 2001 and one ship would be targeted at the UK market while the other was aimed at the US market. Preliminary names for the ships, which were never formally decided on, were the Britannia and the America given their target markets and historical maritime resonance. When news leaked of possible new Cunarders, the UK press announced that Cunard were to call them the Britannia and the Queen Mary and then a story appeared that The Queen had declined the name the Britannia thinking it too close to the 1997 retirement of the Royal Yacht Britannia – whatever names would have been given can only be guessed at now.

I heard - from the pot wash on Vistafjord - that this was a plan originally put forward by Kaverner to appease the Cunard Management ahead of the sale, it was also a bit of a 'fib' put about by 'The Greeks' who tried to jump on the Bandwagon. But up popped Micky Arison, slammed his $50m on the table and Kavernor couldn't get it in their back pocket quick enough! The rest is history.
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Great concept. Never needed.  :-\
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