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Online Brandon Sterkel

Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #80 on: Nov 20, 2015, 04:51 AM »
According to Marine Traffic AIS, Saga Ruby (Oasia) is currently moored in Sattahip, Thailand.

By the looks of the current satellite imagery, she appears to be laid up in the port.
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Offline Nick Herber

Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #81 on: Jul 15, 2016, 12:53 PM »
According to YachtWorld.com, Saga Ruby (now Oasia) is up for sale in Thailand.

Most of the photos appear to be stock photos. The listing states that she has been converted to a hotel ship but could still be operational as a cruise ship.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1973/Cruise-Ship%2C-561-Passengers---Coverted-To-Floating-Hotel---Stock-No.-S2125-2811397/Thailand#.V4jNEb_EzCT

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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #82 on: Jul 15, 2016, 02:57 PM »
Well done Nick, congratulations for finding this & thanks vmuch for posting for us all to see, a little bit of good news in amongst all the no so good for QE2, some decent if bland updates seem to've been carried out, they've spent money on her , but, find myself wondering why not open her up a a hotel as originally planned on the Yangon, after all, the work seems to've been done,get some cash back whilst the offers hopefully come in. This lady is nearly as close to my heart as dear QE2, hope she has a bit of good luck.
 Maybe QE2's owners should look/see.........
« Last Edit: Jul 15, 2016, 03:00 PM by pete cain »

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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #83 on: Jul 15, 2016, 05:05 PM »
Thanks, Nick, and very well said, Pete !
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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #84 on: Nov 19, 2016, 02:54 AM »
Does anyone have any updated news about Saga Ruby, now Oasia ?  I think she is still up for sale and some of the photos show some of the cabins as having been redone. 

I don't think she ever was opened as an hotel.  Does anyone know ?
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Offline Roy Warrender

Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #85 on: Nov 19, 2016, 09:38 AM »
Hi June
Marinetraffic shows her still at anchor of Satterhip Thailand Possibly as an accommodation Ship But cannot confirm

Offline Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #86 on: Jan 31, 2017, 09:10 AM »
Jonathan Boonzaier saw her a few days ago off a remote island near Pattaya in Thailand (would that be Sattahip?).

Here she is, on a drone video in the shipyard Sattahip (2016) :


Offline Roy Warrender

Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #87 on: Jan 31, 2017, 05:29 PM »
Hi Isabelle
Just checked Marrone traffic She is now at anchor just of the port Satterhip
The picture shows her when she was alongside

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:100.9/centery:12.6/zoom:12

The blue Dot is Oasia
« Last Edit: Jan 31, 2017, 05:30 PM by Roy Warrender »

Offline Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #88 on: Jan 31, 2017, 05:55 PM »
That does indeed look like where he saw her. She was at sea, but stationary and off an island not far from Pattaya.

Thank you for the map!

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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #89 on: Jan 31, 2017, 06:41 PM »
Why would she be anchored off shore ?
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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #90 on: Jan 31, 2017, 07:57 PM »
June , she's been at Sattahip for some time now, she was supposed to be on the Yangon river earning her keep after her conversion,
 guess they move her offshore to make space alongside for other shipping, but only a guess ,what  is it with classic ladies like this, they bought the boat, refit her for cruising or hotel alongside, use her for goodness sake :(

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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #92 on: Feb 01, 2017, 08:36 PM »
Would to love to know why , Burma up & coming country, Rangoon (excuse my non PC) big tourist place, what's not to loose except the chance.

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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #93 on: Mar 02, 2017, 10:34 PM »
Greetings!
A bit off topic.
Today we had some sad news for those of us who love the "traditional" and classic ocean liners.
The famous former "MS VISTAFJORD (1972)" originally of Norwegian American Line is sold for demolition..! :(
She was one of the last remaining true classics, and has a special place in the heart of many of us, as she represents an era of beautiful Cruise ships that included the former Kungsholm 4 among others... :)
She was the last cruise liner built in the U.K, and had different names and operators over the years, (SAGA RUBY, CARONIA) and now at the end was called "OASIA"..
Last year we as we were starting up the new SAL, we looked into her situation with serious intent.
The plan was to purchase her and utilize her in much the same way as our plans was for the K4, but with the difference that the VISTAFJORD is still SOLAS compliant and can move at own power..
She had left SAGA CRUISES fleet a couple of years ago, and was according to the media "sold to Myanmar in order to be a floating hotel"...
We had some negotiations with the owner, and found the ship in Sattahip, Thailand, at a Naval base. No hotel use.
We had the vessel inspected at the site in Thailand, and unfortunately we found pretty much the same thing as with the K4.. A beautiful ship, recently upgraded for several millions usd, and then left wind for wave.. Nothing of the new upgrades used, everything nicely packaged and the new furniture covered in plastic..
The owner had purchased her for well over 10M usd and had thrown another 10M usd on upgrading the vessel.. What a waste..
She was still in savable condition last year, even though some upgrades to her technical equipment and a good cleaning and painting outside would have been needed. BUT the owner was not prepared to negotiate at the price range we wanted.
The thought was to have her start up the new SAL, and be the first ship enter the fleet before the launch of the new KUNGHOLM 5..
She would have been perfect with a stationary role, as our head-office, restaurant, hotel, museum.
As the owner did not want to discuss the price, we closed the case and decided to use all our energy and efforts on the upcoming K5.
So sad that they now decided to sell her for scrap to India instead, and no actual marketing or other was done to the UK or Norway, to let other entrepreneurs know about the possibilities.
BUT, these events gives us even more "fuel" to create a new timeless masterpiece, as the former ones are slowly almost all leaving us, but the demand and love for these special and beautiful ships is not.
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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #94 on: Mar 03, 2017, 12:27 PM »
Very sad news, I worked on the Vistafjord during the 90's, beautiful ship and a great working atmosphere. One of the last cruise ships that actually looked like a ship!!

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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #95 on: Mar 03, 2017, 04:12 PM »
Really, really gutted to read this, another waste of a fine lady,  obviously too much money  some folk have , she was real nice to travel on  & a very welcoming atmosphere , very like QE2..

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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #96 on: Mar 03, 2017, 05:44 PM »
I have been searching the web, and the only reference that I can find to Ruby being sold for scrap is the SAL FaceBook page quoted by Louis.  So I am wondering if this is really a done deal or the assumption made by SAL. 

If Oasia (Ruby) has been sold for scrap, her "For Sale" listing has not been removed from the firm handling her sale.  It is showing her for sale at $26,000,000 USD.
« Last Edit: Mar 03, 2017, 06:09 PM by June Ingram »
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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #97 on: Mar 03, 2017, 07:02 PM »
I understand from very good friends that recently, Saga Ruby very nearly made it back to the UK.
Unlike QE2 she remains SOLAS compliant, and further details are confidential.

In their statement, SAL ciuises have announced on their Facebook page that she has now been sold for scrap and will be soon taken to India.
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« Last Edit: Mar 03, 2017, 07:08 PM by Twynkle »
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for what seemed like ages...Please don't leave her looking more like a Hotel-with-a-Hull than the greatest Liner afloat - Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #98 on: Mar 03, 2017, 07:10 PM »
I understand from very good friends that recently, Saga Ruby very nearly made it back to the UK.
Unlike QE2 she remains SOLAS compliant, and further details are confidential.

In their statement, SAL ciuises have announced on their Facebook page that she has now been sold for scrap and will be soon taken to India.
http://www.swedishamericanline.com/

Its a tragedy, it really is, and mirrors QE2.  The UK built some of the greatest liners the world ever saw, and here's the last, and she's smaller and in good condition, and we can't even save her.  Its so sad.

Our children will look back and wonder how we lost all the beautiful ships and didn't keep any at all.
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Offline Pete Hamill

Re: Saga Ruby after Saga
« Reply #99 on: Mar 03, 2017, 08:19 PM »
Took a while for me to realise Saga Ruby was Cunard's Caronia . . . .

Then I remembered I had some video footage I took of her leaving New York (when we got back off a cruise on QE2). She was indeed a nice looking ship.
QE2 departed New York shortly afterwards and that was the saddest sight ever - watching her sail away with my feet on dry land.
That was the only time I saw them both together.

Sorry to see her go.