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Offline Louis De Sousa

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Heres the QE2 in white and grey after the Falklands War.

http://videoboss.smugmug.com/gallery/2393498_wQrZR#P-1-12

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Offline Andrew Collier

Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 10:15 AM »
Nice link thanks, love the way all these new galleries keep appearing!
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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 11:06 AM »
Do you think she looked smaller in her 'white and grey' look?
« Last Edit: Sep 24, 2009, 08:16 AM by Twynkle »
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

Offline Andrew Collier

Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 10:14 AM »
Don't know about smaller, but chunkier deffinatly, less sleek.

Without the long horizontal dividing line of the charoal hull and white uppers that we're more used to, you kinda loose the sense of the ships great length a little....
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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 12:36 PM »
And another one of herself from my collection.... Stunning, l always thought she looked very smart in the grey colours, However when the rust poped through it did spoil the looks, interesting to see the black davits.
And if you look closely a door open in the back of the CUNARD

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Offline highlander0108

Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 01:14 PM »
Great photo Myles and I do agree with you after seeing this pic.  I think the color scheme could have been improved a bit with a white waterline strip as she currently has between the grey hull and the red bootstripe color and perhaps another stripe of a darker color, black perhaps, between the grey hull and the buff superstructure color. This photo illustrates how washed out the ship looks in this color scheme.  The black and tan colors in the area of the davits is quite striking.  Also interesting is to her her "nostrels" in use with the lines to the tugs.  Despite the color changes, there is no hiding her classic lines we all miss so dearly.

Where abouts was this taken?  Looking at the flags flying from the mast, somewhere in the UK?
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Offline Malcolm

Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2009, 02:04 PM »
And if you look closely a door open in the back of the CUNARD

Unfortunately the resolution of the picture isn't great enough to enable to picture to be sufficiently enlarged :( Is the original picture at a higher resolution? If so would you email me a copy? :)

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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2009, 02:11 PM »
Its a great photo, do you see that she's got a couple of tenders missing?
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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2009, 02:15 PM »
Its a great photo, do you see that she's got a couple of tenders missing?

Typical geeks! ::)

It's a great photo but: an open door and missing tenders are FAR more interesting! :D

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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2009, 02:20 PM »
Typical geeks! ::)

It's a great photo but: an open door and missing tenders are FAR more interesting! :D

yeah and this geek can delete your account or ban you so watch out!   :P
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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2009, 02:38 PM »
Quote
Quote from: Cunardqueen on Today at 12:36:19 PM
And if you look closely a door open in the back of the CUNARD


Unfortunately the resolution of the picture isn't great enough to enable to picture to be sufficiently enlarged  Is the original picture at a higher resolution? If so would you email me a copy?

With pleasure !!!
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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2009, 05:15 PM »
yeah and this geek can delete your account or ban you so watch out!   :P

Hey! I'm not just calling you a geek but me as well. I wasn't being rude about one person but spreading it about ;D

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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009, 05:18 PM »
With pleasure !!!

That door isn't how I'd imagined. After the Round Britain trip I thought I'd seen all there was to see about that ship - how wrong I was :(

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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #13 on: Jun 01, 2009, 08:31 AM »
She looks so clean and crisp in the photo, unfortunately the grey really showed the dirt.

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #14 on: Jun 01, 2009, 06:01 PM »



Hey Scott

Your lion is great!
(it looks every bit as good as the ones in the QE2 lifts - (elevators!)

Rosie
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #15 on: Jun 03, 2009, 03:13 PM »
Here ship does not look that white :(

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Offline highlander0108

Re: QE2 in white/grey
« Reply #16 on: Jun 03, 2009, 05:43 PM »
i have to admit I never understood why there was the color scheme change and from few photos I saw, never much liked it.  While viewing eBay, I saw this listing for postcards for the Vistaford and then it hit me that the color scheme was not so foreign after all. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=180362189951

The waterline is at least white on this "baby" QE2.  I know that Commodore Warwick lamented that he had to convince himself to like the color scheme and stated that it proved difficult to maintain and actually areas came off during transatlantics. 
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Re: QE2 in white/grey / Pebble Gray 1983 1984
« Reply #17 on: Sep 23, 2009, 02:33 PM »
Check this out

https://www.flickr.com/photos/23749486@N05/3939548232/

Look at it full size.

What a MESS!!  Rust EVERYWHERE, out of each and every porthole.  No wonder they reverted so fast.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/23749486@N05/3939822840/

Must have actually been quite embarassing for everybody involved in this stupid idea!
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Re: QE2 in white/grey / Pebble Gray 1983 1984
« Reply #18 on: Sep 23, 2009, 03:29 PM »
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PEBBLE GREY HULL
AUGUST 1982 – JUNE 1983


Upon her return to service after her service in the Falklands, the most noticeable ‘change’ by far was the external colour scheme of QE2. Amazingly, the ‘new look’ was on the instruction of Cunard’s Chairman Lord Matthews who had been given the ideas by his wife!! The goal being to give the ‘new’ QE2 a symbolic and exciting appearance.

Hull

• The dark-grey hull was repainted in a light pebble grey that was almost white. The boot-topping remained red.

• The ship’s name and homeport on the bow and stern were painted black.

Funnel

• For the first time, the funnel was redone in the traditional Cunard red with two black bands. Each black band was eight-inches thick (made up of two four-inch strips of tape). Soon after QE2 had re-entered service, the tape was soon flapping about in the breeze!

According to Cunard: “The new colours of the ship, both inside and out, reflect the new spirit of QE2 and her crew while respecting a tradition of luxury and service…symbolic of the lighter, more contemporary flair of QE2…The painting of the funnel in traditional Cunard red and black is to emphasise Queen Elizabeth 2’s continued dedication to the high standards set by her predecessors”.

Red Stripe

The original plan called for a broad red stripe to be painted around the hull – a job that was to have been undertaken in Hong Kong in March 1983 during QE2’s Circle Pacific Cruise. This was never done as the decision to return QE2’s hull to charcoal grey in the next scheduled dry-docking had been made by then

Reaction to the New Scheme

According to noted maritime historian John Maxtone-Graham, 'Liners to the Sun': “I had reservations about it; although putting the company’s colours up on the funnel was long overdue, the pale grey hull seemed a mistake. From a distance, it read white and was not flattering. The Sidney Greenstreet principle was at work: a fat man in a white suit looks fatter. The QE2’s light-coloured hull sprawled and, worse, showed its middle age”.

Experience with the New Scheme

The new pale-grey coloured-hull of QE2 soon proved to be unpractical as well as unpopular. The grey was terribly difficult to maintain in a pristine form and no matter how careful the tugs in ports were, QE2 always lost some of her paint or obtained scuff marks from tugs nudging bows. Evidence of close contact with dockside fenders also always showed. The light colour also always displayed unsightly streaks of rust dribbling down the vessel’s sides from portholes and hawse pipes.

Her external appearance as she circled the Pacific during her 1983 World Cruise drew many criticisms. The fact that this voyage was subject to a ‘Whicker’s World’ documentary by Alan Whicker drove home the poor external condition of the ship when broadcast. A full stem-to-stern clean-up was undertaken halfway during the voyage in Hong Kong.

Back to Black

After a reasonable trail period it was decided by Cunard to return the hull colour to the original colouring during  QE2’s scheduled dry-docking at the end of 1983. However the repainting was done earlier during emergency repairs to QE2’s turbines in Southampton between 10 and 27 June 1983.

Hull

• Repainted in the original charcoal grey.

• The ship’s name and homeport on the stern were re-painted white due to the new hull colour.

Funnel

• The Cunard-coloured red funnel remained.

Superstructure      

• The khaki painted superstructure on Boat Deck behind the lifeboats and underneath the Bridge was re-painted white for the first time.

From June 1983 QE2 she then wore the traditional colours of the old Cunard ships and more than ever deserved, through livery and [war] action, the title of Queen.
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Re: QE2 in white/grey / Pebble Gray 1983 1984
« Reply #19 on: Sep 23, 2009, 05:11 PM »
This accounting is great, Flagship.  Question for you though; you said there was to be a large red stripe around the hull.  Where exactly was this to go?


 

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