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On 23 July 1976 QE2 was steaming about 80 miles off the Scilly Isles heading for New York when the flexible coupling drive connecting the starboard main engine high pressure rotor and the reduction gear box ruptured. As a result lubricating oil under pressure was released into the main engine room with ignited creating a sever fire and explosion. The oil burned for 20 minutes before it could be brought under control. During that time the oil burned fiercely and flames shot up the funnel’s ventilating shaft about 100-foot away, blackening and buckling the funnel casing high above the passenger decks.

The blaze left the ship without the use of one boiler.

A 22-year-old engineer, Kenneth Lyon, from Liverpool was seriously burned on the face and arm while tackling the fire and was taken to a burns unit ashore in a Salisbury hospital. The hospital stated that he was the “best looked after” burns case ever admitted, a great tribute to the medical staff on board QE2.

Although the damage was limited to the Boiler Room, QE2 was in no state to continue to New York so she limped back to Southampton with the lower white casing of her funnel blackened.

Hampshire Police boarded QE2 by tender at Cowes Road to investigate whether the cause of the problem had been sabotage but this was soon ruled out.

Cunard explained that the coupling which broke consisted of two plates bolted together and was rather like a car’s clutch. The investigation carried out revealed the prime cause of the seizure was due to a mal-alignment of the rotor and gear box beyond tolerable limits.

Captain Hehir said that the fire party and other crew had done a “marvellous job” putting the blaze out.

The effected boiler had to be replaced by dry-docking the liner and cutting an access hole in her side to remove the damaged machinery and install its replacement.

Similar damage to an older ship would, perhaps, have resulted in its premature scrapping.

A round-trip Atlantic voyage was cancelled so repairs could be carried out. The 1,227 passengers on board this voyage and the 1,400 booked on the return were offered a 20% reduction of fares on the cancelled trips, or 50% off the fares of a future Cunard voyage – practically all opted for the 50%.

QE2 returned to service on 3 August after day and night repair work by engineers to repair the broken coupling.

Four crewmembers received awards from the Secretary of State for Industry for their prompt services in putting out the fire in 30 minutes.

A new set of turbine blades replacing the ones damaged in an engine room fire were fitted in January 1977 at Bayonne (New Jersey) during a special repairs period.
« Last Edit: Jan 13, 2012, 03:41 PM by Isabelle Prondzynski »

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #1 on: Aug 27, 2011, 01:04 AM »
I am sorry. I must disagree with several points as to the fire.
Yes a gear box ruptured, sending a roughly 200 pound chunk of cast iron through a lube oil pipe. creating fuel for the fire.
Fortunately for ALL on board, the Engineer on duty in the TCR, turbine control room, decided what was going on and shut down the oil pump. He was in a glass windowed control room and mostly all he could see was flames. He had 2 doors and an escape hatch that led to a lower deck. He kept in constant touch with the Main Control Room and the Bridge. At no time did he abandon his post although it was becoming EXTREMELY hot  and all he could see were flames.
Eng fire parties were working but by this time fire had spread to the spaces directly upwards where the  Engineer elevator was. I was sent uo to the area around the base of the funnel to check on secondary fires. There were many but I got them out.
According to a Deck Officer on watch at the time flames were going over 100 feet out of the top of the funnel.
Now my points:
The ship never lost a boiler, it lost a low pressure turbine, with the the disasters that were planned for by the designers...a few bits of pipe and qe2 WAS READY TO GO ON REDUCED SPEED.
I made that sound a lot simpler than it was. After the few bits of pipe were fitted QE2 ran a 6 day Atlantic crossing.
There was NO damage to the boiler room apart from the extra wear and tear on our tea boiler because of all the extra people on duty.
Kenny Lyons, was not burned fighting the fire, he was caught in the fireball that blew out of the engine room and  went down the working alleyway

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #2 on: Aug 27, 2011, 01:08 AM »
Ironically. Kenny Lyons had transferred to the Engine Room from the kitchen dept on another ship because he had been badly burned in a fat fryer fire!
I believe he ended up marrying one of his nurses from Salisbury.
The hole was cut in the ships side to get the turbine rotor out. Not a boiler.

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #3 on: Aug 27, 2011, 08:17 AM »
Great to hear from someone who was there. It sounds like an inferno!

I am sure there was extra wear and tear on the drinks supplies as well, after all was under control again...

So the working alleyway was affected (that must have been terrible for Kenny Lyons, especially after his earlier experience). Was the inferno contained within the crew areas? Did the passengers notice the extent of what was going on? That is, apart from the flames issuing 100 feet upwards from the funnel... there may well have been panic...

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« Reply #4 on: Aug 27, 2011, 09:36 AM »
Amazing stuff! And amazing that she then did a 6 night crossing ( faster than the new queens now do!)
Thanks so much for sharing,, you should write a book!
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 27, 2011, 10:36 AM »
Great to hear from someone who was there. It sounds like an inferno!

I am sure there was extra wear and tear on the drinks supplies as well, after all was under control again...

So the working alleyway was affected (that must have been terrible for Kenny Lyons, especially after his earlier experience). Was the inferno contained within the crew areas? Did the passengers notice the extent of what was going on? That is, apart from the flames issuing 100 feet upwards from the funnel... there may well have been panic...

Fortunately the fireball died quickly.
To be honest, I do not know about the pax. They must have because of the lack of noise, fans shut down, no a/c etc, ship not moving. hoses were laid out and filled, with fire parties at hand in the pax accom, for boundary cooling some were actually used. Don't forget that the funnel casing went through pax accom  around F stair

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« Reply #6 on: Aug 27, 2011, 10:47 AM »
I know regular announcements were made over the PA.
Another point. There were stairs from the ER all the way up to the Engineers change room on Sports deck. To save weight, these were made of aluminium, as it was melting it dripped onto the people below who were fighting the fire. Still have little dots round my collar line!.
I believe that services were restored to pax and the ship got underway around 10am..not positive about that.
Dress rules were suspended in the Wardroom for 4 hours! Drinks were free as many pax sent money up.
Tommy Goode and John Griffin, the duty Electrician, were presented with silver trays by the DoT.
The first thought was sabotage, IRA, but a preliminary inspection by Bob Venning, EOD Officer ruled that out. Turned out, as said to be an alignment problem. When we got back to "normal" a contraption, consisting of piano wire, kept taught by a big weight was used to check this until re-engining. This was before lasers!

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Re: 1976 Fire, explosion & damage to QE2 includiung the funnel
« Reply #7 on: Jan 12, 2012, 10:44 PM »
A 22-year-old engineer, Kenneth Lyon, from Liverpool was seriously burned on the face and arm while tackling the fire and was taken to a burns unit ashore in a Salisbury hospital. The hospital stated that he was the “best looked after” burns case ever admitted, a great tribute to the medical staff on board QE2.

I'm amazed, delighted, surprised and honoured to say that we received an email today from Kenneth Lyon, about this amazing story which has left both himself and QE2 scarred ever since.

Here's Kenneth's email, reproduced with permission

Quote from: Kenneth Lyon
From: kenneth lyon
Date: Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:17 AM
Subject: FIRE 23 JULY 1976
To: THE QE2 STORY <admin@theqe2story.com>


Greetings to you all at THE QE2 STORY,
 
I read the section on the fire that took place on 23 July 1976  and the badly burned 22 year old engineer.
 
It has brought back so many memories of the biggest disaster of my life.    I am that engineer I am kenneth lyon.
 
More than 35 years ago since I was almost killed at 5am in the morning of 23 July 1976 in the engine room of QE2,  and I can remember every second of the events that took place  leading up to the explosion and fire.
 
I am now 58 years old and still alive and well exept for the damage to both my hands that were almost totally destroyed by the fire.
 
The comments made in this site are quite accurate but not completely accurate,   The crew members treated me with kindness and I would also like to pay tribute to all the kind passengers many of which were from the USA.
 
All of these people and all my fellow crew members gave me so much support and help through the many  months of pain and surgery
And Doctor Oliver  of QE2 the first person I saw when I opened my eyes.     I asked for a mirror and they would not let me see.  I asked for a cigarette and Doctor Oliver allowed me only 2 puffs and then took it away.    All these details I can still remember vividly.
 
I would like to hear from anyone with any interest in QE2  and any crew members that can remember that day or remember visiting me in hospital.
 
Keep up the good historic work  on QE2.
 
 
look forward to hearing from you.
 
 
KENNETH  LYON   Mechanic   23 July 1976
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Re: 1976 Fire, explosion & damage to QE2 includiung the funnel
« Reply #8 on: Jan 12, 2012, 10:54 PM »
WAY TO GO KENNY!  Delighted to see you are still with us.
I hope what I posted was accurate. Should be close. Hope you become a regular poster.
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Re: 1976 Fire, explosion & damage to QE2 includiung the funnel
« Reply #9 on: Jan 12, 2012, 11:03 PM »
More...

I then emailed Kenneth, on all our behalfs, and receive this reply from Kenneth

Quote from: Ken Lyon
Hello Rob,
 
Thank you for your early reply to my mail.
 
Of course you may make this information available for all interested people that are members on your website, you are most welcome.
 
I have enclosed some pictures although not pleasant to look at will give people the chance to see the damage that was caused to me personally as a result of the fire.
 
The QE2 also appears to have its own scars which will remain for the rest of her life also.   It has been so long now nearly 36 years this 23 July,  a day that I certainly will never forget.
 
I would really like to hear from any crew members that were there at the time as there were so many visited me in hospital  from July right up to December when I was transfered to Liverpool Whiston hospital.
 
At 58 now it does not bother me to talk about the event itself but every day where ever I go people will always ask what happend to my hands and I just got used to it.    Its not that they find it horrific Its just that they are naturally curious.  My own crew where more helpfull with their kindness and also all the passengers more so than Cunard.
 
Every time QE2 came alongside in southampton  Packing cases were sent to the hospital full of every kind of fruit you could imagine from all over the world,    this I ordered to be given to all the children and other burn victims in the unit as I was to ill to even consider eating it myself and there were many others that did not even have any visitors.
 
My family was brought down from Liverpool a number of times but could not stay so long as Cunard were not happy to keep paying the hotel bills.   I was gratefull for the visits of my crew  and also the sisters at a local salisbury convent  that gave all the things that I needed in the absence of my parents.
 
The future of QE2 seems at this time uncertain,   I understand that Liverpool vision is interested in bringing her home to Liverpool to become part of the Mersey skyline,   the chances of this seem pretty slim at this time but if this ever comes to pass I shall return to board her again.    I have seen her once in the mersey some 15 years ago but have not been on board.
 
Myself and QE2 appear to be going into retirement together.    I  guess by looking at the funnel   the scars will remain forever with her as with me.
 
Look forwrd to hearing from you again soon Rob   and sure I would like to join in and become a member on your site.
 
 
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Re: 1976 Fire, explosion & damage to QE2 includiung the funnel
« Reply #10 on: Jan 13, 2012, 10:01 AM »
I was pleased to see that Ken Lyon has joined the Forum.  The accident and subsequent treatment must have been quite horrific for a young man and his family to go through.  Five months of hospital treatment - not good. 

But what is amazing is that through the Forum hopefully he will be able to tell his story, which is also part of the QE2 Story.  Looking forward to hearing from you Ken. 
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2014, 01:27 AM »
Hello Kenny Lyon, I remember the fire very well. It started at 0420hrs, if you remember you were on the 4-8 shift as bilge diver if I remember correctly and on your second shift having worked the afternoon before. When the fire alarm went off everyone could tell it was for real as the fire sucked all the air out of the working alleyway and Mechanics cabins off the working alleyway and we all rushed out to find out what we should do to help. We had several fire parties to attack the fire with breathing apparatus and after changing over tanks as each only lasted around 20mins I offered to go up to my workshop ( port side of the funnel base) to fill the tanks up. Flames were shooting up around 30ft out of the funnel until the fire was under control. After you were taken to the hospital a call went out for anyone with a spare fans to get them to the hospital  to help cool you down. There are many more details but best left out as you are the one that suffered badly and we all felt so badly for you. The ship was later back up and running on just the port engine and looking at the engine room it was a wonder that one worked. I believe their was a ocean going tug that offered help but was told to keep out of sight so as not to alarm the passengers so the fire damage could be toned down.
The HP Turbine was removed for repairs and the low pressure turbine had extra steam applied to speed it up so we get back most of the ships speed while they repaired the HP one.  What a night!!!

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2014, 08:00 AM »
Thanks John for adding your first hand account of this story about the 1976.  It must have been very distressing for crew, especially when they saw that Ken Lyon had sustained serious burns. 
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2014, 02:29 PM »
Thank you very much, John, for your description of the events of that fire. 
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2014, 03:41 PM »
What an interesting description of the night. Thanks for posting.
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2014, 03:45 PM »
...so as not to alarm the passengers so the fire damage could be toned down.

Apart from the blackened funnel? ;)
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2014, 11:01 PM »
HELLO John Drew,

I read your post about the fire and all you have said is correct.

I remember it was 0450hrs when I was leaving the engine room with empty containers for the cage just outside on 6 deck.  I was climbing the steps as it all kicked off.  there was only seconds to spare for me to make a decision to either make for the exit or get back down and take cover in the control room.

Looking back now I am still undecided as to whether I made the right choice.  there was so little time to spare.   If I had gone back down to the control room I don't think I would have made it in time and would not be here today,    I made the decision to exit on to 6 deck and believe me I moved FAST,    As I was running I shouted fire in the engine room but before I could get the words out there was a massive blast which filled the allyway with flames instantly,  I really thought It was the end.

As to what you said about the fans for the hospital I can remember that and doctors were all over me,  I remember the sound of alarms and I could hear shouting and footsteps running on 6 deck.  No one thought I was ever going to make it.    Only the day before I was asking did anyone have a spare boiler suit as I had left mine behind on the last ship.  Its a good job I was not wearing a nylon one as  I would for sure not have survived.   I was only wearing a    t  shirt and a pair of old officers trousers. the shirt was gone in an instant but those old trousers saved my legs.

So many people here remember that terrible morning and It must also have been terrifying for the passengers.   Fire aboard ship can spread much faster than people realize and only good training and experience can save the day.   If anyone else is reading this that took so many risks to fight the blaze that day  I would like to say thanks for getting me back home safely to shore and im sure the passengers were thankful also.

Im always ready for a chat  kenneth.lyon@hotmail.co.uk

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2014, 11:05 PM »
Thanks Ken for your memories of that awful incident. What an amazing story, and I'm sure you were very lucky. :)
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2014, 11:49 PM »
Welcome Ken, and good to see you here! Good in every possible way -- such a close thing and you might not have made it...

Wonderful to read that the passengers and crew rallied round and made sure you could be as comfortable as at all possible. Thank you for all you did for the ship. It will not be forgotten.

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2014, 06:17 PM »
Hello Ken,

Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your memories of an incredible and life changing event. That is one of the many great things about this forum, that we get to hear first hand accounts of real life events on a remarkable ship from a fantastic crew.

It would be great to hear more of your memories from your time aboard if you get the time to post.
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2014, 06:44 PM »
Welcome, Ken ! and thank you for sharing your memories of that day !
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2014, 06:50 PM »
Hmm. I had no idea this happened. You learn something new everyday.


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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2014, 06:52 PM »
Reply #12 shows the damage to the funnel: https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,275.0.html
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2017, 01:40 PM »
A bravery award was made by Cunard to Thomas E Goode in 1982 for his actions appertaining to the fire.

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #24 on: Aug 03, 2017, 05:52 AM »
Found this on Wikipedia

"SOS SOS SOS (urgent distress call follows) DE (from) GBTT GBTT GBTT (call sign of the Queen Elizabeth 2 radio room, repeated 3 times) QUEEN ELIZABETH 2 (name of ship) PSN (position is) 49.06.30 N (north), 04.30.20 W (west). (Ship is) ON FIRE, (crew) ABANDONING SHIP AR (end of transmission) K (reply, anyone)"

Is this the wireless transmission from the funnel fire?
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #25 on: Aug 03, 2017, 06:20 AM »
Hi Trevor, as far as I am aware QE2 never got to the point of being abandoned during this fire as many things that didn't happen would have had to have happened such as the passengers boarding the swung out and slightly lowered lifeboats via the Boat Deck.

In fact QE2 never got to the point of being abandoned despite several near catastrophic events during her service life, two others that come to mind at the moment being: the grounding at Martha's Vineyard in 1992 and a sea valve burst in the aft engine room in the middle of the Atlantic in approx May 2002. In the case of the sea valve burst, the engineers had to do an "Apollo 13" of using what they had around them to control and potentially stop the major leak. Their temporary repair lasted the remaining 3 days of that crossing and permanent repairs were effected in Southampton. This flood got so bad that they were having to seriously consider shutting down at least one of the main engine diesels in the aft engine room for their safety.

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #26 on: Aug 04, 2017, 10:20 PM »
... QE2 never got to the point of being abandoned despite several near catastrophic events during her service life...

Whilst I can't argue with the accuracy of your statement Thomas, I think the evacuation at sea of over1600 pax and non essential crew in April 1974 was certainly a significant 'lightening of the load', as it were. Though I agree it wasn't 'abandoning ship'.

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #27 on: Aug 04, 2017, 10:54 PM »
Whilst I can't argue with the accuracy of your statement Thomas, I think the evacuation at sea of over1600 pax and non essential crew in April 1974 was certainly a significant 'lightening of the load', as it were. Though I agree it wasn't 'abandoning ship'.

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,2665.msg72937.html#msg72937


I forgot about the April 1974 boiler trouble and subsequent power failure incident, although if I'm to be pedantic it wasn't really "abandoning ship" in an emergency situation.

Also I incorrectly stated that the repair to the valve in May 2002 was effected in Southampton. According to the topic on the very event, elsewhere on this forum, the repair was effected in New York as the transatlantic crossing was in the opposite direction to what I stated and thought it was. I've been publicly stupid yet again  ::) haha.
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #28 on: Aug 09, 2017, 01:00 AM »
I've been publicly stupid yet again  ::) haha.
I don't think it has anything to do with 'stupid' Tom: maybe, at least in my case, how many rums one has enjoyed before posting.

But the beauty of this site is that whatever you may have posted is not carved in stone: come the morning, and sobriety, one can always return and make subtle 'enhancements' to your original words of wisdom.

And, the foregoing is my final word on this matter (unless I change this whole post tomorrow - or even delete it entirely). Though I am only on G&Ts tonight, so hardly serious alcohol  :)

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« Reply #29 on: Aug 10, 2017, 05:42 AM »
I don't think it has anything to do with 'stupid' Tom: maybe, at least in my case, how many rums one has enjoyed before posting.

But the beauty of this site is that whatever you may have posted is not carved in stone: come the morning, and sobriety, one can always return and make subtle 'enhancements' to your original words of wisdom.

And, the foregoing is my final word on this matter (unless I change this whole post tomorrow - or even delete it entirely). Though I am only on G&Ts tonight, so hardly serious alcohol  :)

I suppose that's the beauty of the World Wide Web in many but not all cases - basically infinite editing! Well at least with most online forums.
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« Reply #30 on: Aug 10, 2017, 05:06 PM »
I suppose that's the beauty of the World Wide Web in many but not all cases - basically infinite editing! Well at least with most online forums.

The W.W.W can be a ugly liar sometimes. Misleading information is still put out there.
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #31 on: Jan 09, 2018, 04:25 PM »
I was 4 years old when we took this ill fated voyage.  My Dad was a history professor at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana and wanted us to experience a transatlantic crossing.  He had fond memories of traveling this way.  We had just spent a year in Hamburg, Germany where he ran a program with Purdue University. 

My brother who was 10, sister who was 8, and I all shared one cabin.  And my parents had another cabin on the other side of emergency doors - I'm sure they don't do this today.  I've asked my mother, brother, and sister to look this up so they may and comment as well.  My Dad passed away in 2012. 

I wanted to thank the crew members who fought the fire.  Apparently we were close enough to the fire that were were asked to leave our cabins and put our life jackets on even though the entire ship wasn't under alarm at that time.  We were treated well as I recall on the return.  We were flown home of course.  We had our car on the ship, and it was delivered later so I remember we had a rental car for a couple weeks.  I wish I remembered more as I was only 4 years old. 

Reading these stories makes me grateful for the actions of the crew as this could have been so much worse.  So I wanted to thank the crew that saved the ship and everyone on it.  I was saddened to learn of the injuries to Ken Lyon, but am glad to hear his story. 

Thanks so much to everyone from the Mork family

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #32 on: Jan 09, 2018, 07:01 PM »
Welcome to the Forum Elizabeth and thanks for sharing your story.  It is always wonderful to hear about first hand experiences.
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #33 on: Jan 09, 2018, 07:46 PM »
Welcome, Elizabeth, to The QE2 Story Forum.  It is great to have you join us, and I look forward to hearing more about your QE2 memories and your family's memories of QE2.  Please look around The Forum and I am sure you will find many interesting topics.  June   :) 
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #34 on: Jan 09, 2018, 10:00 PM »
I was 4 years old when we took this ill fated voyage.  My Dad was a history professor at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana and wanted us to experience a transatlantic crossing.  He had fond memories of traveling this way.  We had just spent a year in Hamburg, Germany where he ran a program with Purdue University. 

My brother who was 10, sister who was 8, and I all shared one cabin.  And my parents had another cabin on the other side of emergency doors - I'm sure they don't do this today.  I've asked my mother, brother, and sister to look this up so they may and comment as well.  My Dad passed away in 2012. 

I wanted to thank the crew members who fought the fire.  Apparently we were close enough to the fire that were were asked to leave our cabins and put our life jackets on even though the entire ship wasn't under alarm at that time.  We were treated well as I recall on the return.  We were flown home of course.  We had our car on the ship, and it was delivered later so I remember we had a rental car for a couple weeks.  I wish I remembered more as I was only 4 years old. 

Reading these stories makes me grateful for the actions of the crew as this could have been so much worse.  So I wanted to thank the crew that saved the ship and everyone on it.  I was saddened to learn of the injuries to Ken Lyon, but am glad to hear his story. 

Thanks so much to everyone from the Mork family
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #35 on: Jan 09, 2018, 10:22 PM »
Welcome aboard Elizabeth! An amazing but equally terrifying experience and memory.
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #36 on: Jan 09, 2018, 10:55 PM »
Thank you so much for taking the time to come here and share your story with us and thanking the crew all these decades later!  Your thanks will stay attached to the topic for people to find in future Google searches.

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #37 on: Jan 10, 2018, 12:06 AM »
Liz (I can call you that, right?), welcome to The QE2 Story. You're lucky to have been on the great ship while she was still operating, and it's pretty neat you remember stuff from that age, as I can't remember much. You being in a fire was also pretty epic; you must be grateful the good LORD was watching over you as those men took it out.

I could go on, but I'm pretty busy at the moment so I don't have the time...
But welcome again, to the Forum. :) (As a side note, I'm currently working part-time on a QE2 mini-series. Episode 1 is already out and Episode 2 is due this week. Check it out: as a former QE2 passenger, I think you'll like it.)

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #38 on: Jan 10, 2018, 07:12 PM »
Thanks.  I wish I remembered more, but perhaps my family can provide more details. 

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #39 on: Jul 14, 2018, 03:59 AM »
I was approximately 10-yrs old when we started the crossing. Our family (Father, Mother, 11-yr old sister and 1-yr old brother). We were moving back to the U.S. after living in Switzerland, Italy and Belgium for the previous 7+ years while my father was working with NATO and defense systems.
My mother remembers the night of the fire this way: Crew member knocked on the door and asked to have everyone report to the deck and put on the life jackets. She says she could smell smoke, but she no sign of fire. According to her, the crew was nice and calm and did a great job keeping all the passengers calm. She thinks that we were on deck an hour or 2 and then allowed back to the cabin. I don't remember anything of any fire. I only remember having a blast on the short time we were on the ship. I loved the pool with the sloshing water and I am pretty sure I saw a movie on board as well (I want to say the was Gargantua, but that might just have been a movie I saw recently somewhere else...child memory).
I think it is a tribute to the way everything was handled by the crew that I have absolutely no memory of the incident. I do remember the dissapointment when we turned around and had to disembark.

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« Reply #40 on: Jul 14, 2018, 07:17 AM »
Welcome on board, Eric!

Thank you for sharing your memories (and your mother's) of a monumental day in the history of QE2, which has left her with a scarred funnel to this very day.

It is such a credit to the crew of the ship that passengers were well taken care of and quietly brought to safety, with most of them totally unaware of the fire and the danger to which the fire-fighting crew were exposed.


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« Reply #41 on: Jul 14, 2018, 10:56 AM »

I forgot about the April 1974 boiler trouble and subsequent power failure incident, although if I'm to be pedantic it wasn't really "abandoning ship" in an emergency situation.

Also I incorrectly stated that the repair to the valve in May 2002 was effected in Southampton. According to the topic on the very event, elsewhere on this forum, the repair was effected in New York as the transatlantic crossing was in the opposite direction to what I stated and thought it was. I've been publicly stupid yet again  ::) haha.

The day of QE2's arrival in NY - unfortunately - coincided with 'Navy Week' and, as has been written in a previous post, caused considerable disruption to the repairs due to restrictions on diving in NY harbour.
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #42 on: Jul 15, 2018, 01:21 AM »
Welcome, Eric, to The QE2 Story Forum !  We are very pleased that you have joined us and have shared your memories and your Mum's memories with us.  Please join in on more conversations and share more details if you can ! June :)
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« Reply #43 on: Apr 24, 2019, 10:59 PM »
Hello,
I watched a program recently on the PBS channel about the QE2, and I was excited about this as I was a student passenger on that QE2 voyage in 1976, travelling from Europe to New York when that fire broke out. I believe I boarded in northern France somewhere as I remember that I visited Bayeux before boarding at Cherbourg.

I was 25 at the time, and had just finished up a year of study at the Sorbonne in Paris. Back then, the price was right on the QE2 to travel back to North America and then to my home in Ottawa, Canada.

The film and forum were interesting as it proved my memory correct. We were woken up by the captain through loud speakers, and we could hear some noisy alarm signals. The message was that we were to report to our lifeboat stations. Once on deck in my life jacket, groggy and so looking forward to a full night of sleep, I quickly realized that this was a true emergency.

There were quite high flames shooting out of a funnel, the lifeboats had been lowered somewhat, and we were being organized in groups according to our stations. I was travelling alone, but was also looking out for my roommate that I had just met that day. Thankfully, the fire was extinguished by the crew and we were able to go back to bed. However, no one was able to sleep that night.

The ship limped back to England and a group of Americans launched a kind of grievance committee, so that they could help with individual needs such as pets on board, or cars, or people who were handicapped and needed help. A desk was set up in one of the lounges. The ship’s doctor happened to be at my table, and he had taken this week as a kind of holiday locum. It was no vacation for him at all as some passengers were afraid, nervous, a bit sick with the permanent slant of the ship as it sailed slowly back to Britian, and worried as to how to get their belongings, cars, pets, to New York. I believe he also looked after the man who was badly hurt.

I remember that there was some kind of a dock strike in Britain, so we were asked if we could carry our own suitcases off the ship. On the quay, despite it being a Sunday, there were cages with family pets, piles of luggage, lots of movement and a bit of chaos, before we were bussed to the airport.

Many other passengers boarded my Pan Am flight, and the pilot was terrific. To allay our common fear of flying, he told periodic jokes, and some interesting information on our flight pattern as we flew back across the Atlantic to NY City. I was never so glad to touch the terra firma of North America and see my dad who had come from Canada to meet me in NY City. The loud sounds of the cabbies and all the hubbub were very welcome. And every time I board a ship, I think of this night, and always hunt out my life preserver and check the safety routes on the ship.

I was dismayed when on a recent Caribbean cruise, the lifeboat drill was made into a kind of quiz game. Most people arrived without life jackets and there was chatter and clinking of glasses throughout. It was more like a cocktail party than a rehearsal for a potential emergency. I did complain to the Captain and staff and hopefully this will be changed for the better.
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #44 on: Apr 25, 2019, 10:01 AM »
Thank-you Kate for posting your incredibly detailed, first hand account of the incident.  It was fascinating to learn about the grievance committee having been set up. I can only imagine the dismay of the passengers having to carry luggage and pets from the ship after having experienced such a dramatic event.

I agree that on some cruses passengers do not always appreciate the importance of the safety drill which could save lives in an emergency.
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« Reply #45 on: Apr 27, 2019, 07:46 PM »
Hello,
I watched a program recently on the PBS channel about the QE2, and I was excited about this as I was a student passenger on that QE2 voyage in 1976,...…..

Kate, thanks so much for posting your first hand experience of the QE2 fire, doesn't sound very enjoyable for you, but I very much enjoyed reading it!

On QE2 in 2007 and 2008 the lifeboat drill treated seriously and I remember being impressed.  On QM2 most recently in 2018, it wasn't treated so seriously, but I suspect Cunard is still better in this respect than some other cruise lines.
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but I suspect Cunard is still better in this respect than some other cruise lines.   
I was quite stunned on the later crossings to be advised how to jump off the ship should that be required...
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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #47 on: Apr 29, 2019, 03:59 PM »
Thank you, Kate, for your post and your telling of your experience.  Other details would be appreciated too.

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Re: 1976 fire, explosion & damage to QE2 including the funnel
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2019, 04:13 PM »
I was quite stunned on the later crossings to be advised how to jump off the ship should that be required...

"Never jump but instead step off the deck whilst holding your nose with your arms braced over the front of your lifejacket accordingly" and "check below before jumping for obstructions".

That information has stuck with me to this day too and it should as diving or jumping off would be almost akin to hitting concrete at the heights involved and one doesn't want to break their neck or anything else as has often happened in the past particularly with over-inflated lifejackets of the old type if my memory is correct!
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« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2019, 02:48 AM »
Cleaning out closets in my mom’s house.... we found the programme from Thursday July 22, 1976 and Friday July 23, 1976. We also found deck plans and a pennant. Amazing the things my Dad kept.

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« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2019, 11:31 AM »
Cleaning out closets in my mom’s house.... we found the programme from Thursday July 22, 1976 and Friday July 23, 1976. We also found deck plans and a pennant. Amazing the things my Dad kept.

Fabulous!  Don't throw them out!!
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