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Offline Chris Frame

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #140 on: Jan 11, 2010, 04:52 AM »
More comments at Cruise Talk re: Elizabeth share this forum's feelings for the ship:

http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/ubb-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=011595

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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #141 on: Jan 11, 2010, 06:45 PM »
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

Check out that stern!  It's like a cliff face!  What with that and the "structure" behind and above the bridge I think this is definitely the uglier sister.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #142 on: Jan 11, 2010, 06:51 PM »
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

Check out that stern!  It's like a cliff face!  What with that and the "structure" behind and above the bridge I think this is definitely the uglier sister.

Yes - and I think those aspects look quite unlike the artists impressions of the ship they've released.
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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #143 on: Jan 11, 2010, 06:57 PM »
Thats really ugly. I don't like the stern at all.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #144 on: Jan 11, 2010, 07:03 PM »
But also, from the deckplans in the brochure I got from Cunard those stern cabins are some of the best suites aboard but they are overlooked by the ones above.  I'm not sure I would be so keen on that, if I had paid that much for one!

Also, what is the QV like for vibration/noise at the stern?  It has to be an issue, they can't completely mitigate vibration/noise from the business end of the ship.

Offline Scott Ebersold

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #145 on: Jan 11, 2010, 07:38 PM »
I can be rather forgiving ... but what is that thing on the top front above the bridge?  Really odd looking.

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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #146 on: Jan 12, 2010, 08:49 AM »
Does this help?
http://wearecunard.com/2010/01/the-first-pictures-from-queen-elizabeth’s-float-out-ceremony/

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Offline Matt

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #147 on: Jan 12, 2010, 11:59 AM »
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

Check out that stern!  It's like a cliff face!  What with that and the "structure" behind and above the bridge I think this is definitely the uglier sister.

 Someone hold me a sick bag open whilst i chuck my guts up in tribute to this "Queen".

 She makes the QV look relatively beautiful!
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Offline Matt

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #148 on: Jan 12, 2010, 12:04 PM »
The new 'Games Deck canvas covering' looks like a toilet seat!
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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #149 on: Jan 12, 2010, 12:11 PM »
Does anyone else get the impression that all these extra bits with enclosed space are there just for the purpose of boosting the GRT figure so that in the press QE will seem to be bigger than she is?  Remember - it's the GRT figure which the press use to compare these ships...
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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #150 on: Jan 12, 2010, 12:21 PM »
The new 'Games Deck canvas covering' looks like a toilet seat!
but it might not be suitable conditions for croquet on the lawn without it! Ha ha ha ha ha!
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Offline Chris Frame

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #151 on: Jan 12, 2010, 12:27 PM »
Wow... those stern shots remind me of the Grand-Class ships...  :(

Offline highlander0108

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #152 on: Jan 12, 2010, 12:34 PM »
But also, from the deckplans in the brochure I got from Cunard those stern cabins are some of the best suites aboard but they are overlooked by the ones above.  I'm not sure I would be so keen on that, if I had paid that much for one!

Also, what is the QV like for vibration/noise at the stern?  It has to be an issue, they can't completely mitigate vibration/noise from the business end of the ship.

I saved this link while Eurodam, QE's ugly sister, was under construction.  There is a system in place to inject air under the hull to reduce vibration.  Since it has been effective, I suspect QV/QE have this feature.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/2007/08/06/air-injection-system-reduces-noise-vibration/

If you dig deeper into this blog done by Holland America Line, there are articles on the plantation grown teak, how it's installed and alot of other features such as the bulbous bow explained.  Why can't Cunard do a better job promoting their new "Queen?"
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Offline andy liney

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #153 on: Jan 12, 2010, 01:21 PM »
Wow... those stern shots remind me of the Grand-Class ships...  :(

The whole ship is absolutely hideous, but the stern caps it all! I knew she was very much a compromise design, but she's uglier than most of the other Vista class vessels including QV.

I'm booked on her already but these shots are making me have scond thoughts! :(

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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #154 on: Jan 12, 2010, 02:02 PM »
^^^^^

Don't worry too much; at least if you're sailing on her you won't be able to see her!
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Offline Matt

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #155 on: Jan 12, 2010, 03:16 PM »
^^^^^

Don't worry too much; at least if you're sailing on her you won't be able to see her!

Yes Pete, you are very right here! Its like when the QE2 and QV did the transatlantic tandem crossing, even though the passengers on QV were on the beast ship, they didnt have to see her, just have sight of the splendor of QE2, however the QE2 passengers would rather not have the tandem crossing!

 
The whole ship is absolutely hideous, but the stern caps it all! I knew she was very much a compromise design, but she's uglier than most of the other Vista class vessels including QV.

I'm booked on her already but these shots are making me have scond thoughts! :(

But i do agree here too, She is hideous! Far more than ANY other Vista class. Its the Beluga Whale head and flat ass stern!

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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #156 on: Jan 12, 2010, 03:37 PM »
About the sterns - qE and qV

Have a look at AndyF's images of qV's stern
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitzsimmons/2724141246/in/set-72157606494837693/
and then QE in the third image down on:
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

It would be really helpful if someone could describe the difference
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Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #157 on: Jan 12, 2010, 04:31 PM »
About the sterns - qE and qV

Have a look at AndyF's images of qV's stern
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitzsimmons/2724141246/in/set-72157606494837693/
and then QE in the third image down on:
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

It would be really helpful if someone could describe the difference
Many thanks
Rosie

Although the lack of colour makes the QE look especially ugly, QV's sterrn is less vertical. Not pretty by any means, but still better than QE.

Offline highlander0108

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #158 on: Jan 12, 2010, 05:06 PM »
About the sterns - qE and qV

Have a look at AndyF's images of qV's stern
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitzsimmons/2724141246/in/set-72157606494837693/
and then QE in the third image down on:
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

It would be really helpful if someone could describe the difference
Many thanks
Rosie

They squeezed in more cabins, shortening the deep balconies on the outboard cabins.  UGLY!  At least QV was stepped in more of a liner-like fashion.  If you compare deck plans on the Cunard website, you will see the added cabins.
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Offline Scott Ebersold

Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
« Reply #159 on: Jan 12, 2010, 07:59 PM »
Has it ever been discussed here on this forum (or elsewhere) the thought process that went into choosing the Vista Class ships for the new "Queens"?  It is pretty obvious that Cunard wanted to expand their "product" (after selling QE2).  And iI do know that another Vista was originally chosen to be QV and then not again.  But when they could have had a new smaller cruise ship designed specifically for Cunard why did they instead go with a design from another line within the Carnival group?  The obvious assumption is financial, but was there ever anything said about the choice to go with the Vista Class from Cunard/Carnival explaining their reasoning?