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Offline Twynkle

Re: The Funnel
« Reply #120 on: Feb 05, 2012, 02:27 PM »
Please Rob - do you think it would be a good idea for there to be a timeline specifically for the Funnel,
and include pictures of it all stages since it's first inception?
I'm probably the only one who's confused - however, there are images around, some containing slits at the top, other with more beaten red metal than others, and few specific dates for reference etc
My query arose as I was wondering about refits.
For example, when did these involve the funnel?
A Timeline might involve too much work, if so, please excuse my suggestion!
As there are three distinct topics for the funnel, do you think it needs it's own section?
Rosie

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #121 on: Feb 05, 2012, 03:06 PM »
I'm trying to remember where I have already seen a similar timeline ... a book or a website? I just have to find it!
« Last Edit: Feb 05, 2012, 03:08 PM by Matteo 91 »

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #122 on: Mar 12, 2012, 05:22 PM »
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #123 on: Mar 12, 2012, 05:30 PM »
Cor!  That's a powerful and atmospheric image! :)

Have you got any more like that?
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Offline Twynkle

Re: The Funnel
« Reply #124 on: Mar 12, 2012, 06:33 PM »
Hi Myles

What a picture!
Do you by any chance know the date that you took it?
Cheers
Rosie
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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #125 on: Mar 12, 2012, 08:21 PM »
Quote
  Cor!  That's a powerful and atmospheric image!

Have you got any more like that?

It is... and Yes !!!! ;)  and the image is much, much larger than you think.... 

From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #126 on: Mar 12, 2012, 08:30 PM »
If you can imagine this but in black and white.. and taken several minutes later when the sun was higher. It dates to 1969. 
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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #127 on: Mar 12, 2012, 08:36 PM »
Its a long story but a photo poster appeared on ebay last year, I bid and won it. there is some  damge to the image but in the correct light its looks stunning. Black and white and shows her profile against the sun.  Anyway it arrived when l was in California. The sender explained it had probably been unrolled once in the past 30 or so years and that was only to take a picture to see it and the rest of the time it had been stored away completely forgotten about. the image size is 46 x 24 ins. It really was rolled up so tight that it impossible to fully roll out, and in truth they day l had a copy made was the day l saw it in all its glory.

 Being thick photo paper and stored rolled up for so long l had no idea how best to deal with it. But eventually having tried a whole host of places between Inverness, Aberdeen and Dundee. l found a place that would at least try to copy it onto normal copy paper. Everyone else just took one look and said No !!, its too old, paper to thick and the machines wont take it. But one place l found would at least try, l did have to persevere with them, and even then all they said was we can try but all you will get is a black and white blob on paper, It took four of them to man handle the paper and when the first copy rolled out, l was stunned, and in truth so were they, it was still a black blob !! and asked can they run through a few more, which they did. They also did copies of my plans but that's another story.
 So that's it !! its perhaps too large to get mounted and framed, and one half of me says get it cropped down to size and then get it mounted and framed.
Anyway stay tuned.... ;)


     
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Online Lynda Bradford

Re: The Funnel
« Reply #128 on: Mar 13, 2012, 09:07 AM »
Hello Myles

What a wonder story and thank goodness you did not give up on getting the poster copied.  Looking forward to update on stage two when you get it framed. 
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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #129 on: Mar 13, 2012, 12:12 PM »
Its also worthy to note that this is the same picture used on the cover of Potter and Frost's book, "Queen Elizabeth 2: The Authorised Story".  Although the port side is shown in Miles' photo and the starboard side is shown on the book.  Probably just the book cover artist's preference using a mirror image.


Offline Twynkle

Re: The Funnel
« Reply #130 on: Mar 13, 2012, 05:35 PM »
Its also worthy to note that this is the same picture used on the cover of Potter and Frost's book, "Queen Elizabeth 2: The Authorised Story".  Although the port side is shown in Miles' photo and the starboard side is shown on the book.  Probably just the book cover artist's preference using a mirror image.

Bob - there's a fair bit of artistic license, isn't there?
The lower part of the funnel in both images seems incredibly deep from 'front to back'
and the mast isn't quite right either... :-\
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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #131 on: Mar 13, 2012, 09:13 PM »
Rosie, the squatty funnel in Miles' photo is probably due to some distortion in the reproduction process.  The odd funnel in the color photo is due to the brightness of the sun behind the mast - similar to why it looks like there are no windows in spots on the old Sports Deck - I miss that feature...sigh  :'( 

Offline Twynkle

Re: The Funnel
« Reply #132 on: Mar 13, 2012, 09:25 PM »
Rosie, the squatty funnel in Miles' photo is probably due to some distortion in the reproduction process.  The odd funnel in the color photo is due to the brightness of the sun behind the mast - similar to why it looks like there are no windows in spots on the old Sports Deck - I miss that feature...sigh  :'( 

Thank you, Bob
As a matter of interest, does the 'squatty' bit of the funnel have any function?
Although it has a sleeve like appearance, I can't imagine what it does!
I've often tried to find out from books - and failed!
It must have a proper name - maybe something associated with its use....
Flagship's post# 4 -  is helpful, it uses the term cowling - but I'm still none the wiser as to its purpose!
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,3930.0.html
Hope all's well with you and yours
Rosie
« Last Edit: Mar 13, 2012, 09:30 PM by Twynkle »
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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #133 on: Mar 13, 2012, 09:36 PM »
Rod would be the one to answer that question.

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #134 on: Mar 13, 2012, 10:19 PM »
I believe it is an aerodynamic shape designed to help the curved bit at the base keep the exhaust clear of the deck.
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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #135 on: Apr 21, 2014, 06:34 PM »
Thank you, Bob
As a matter of interest, does the 'squatty' bit of the funnel have any function?
Although it has a sleeve like appearance, I can't imagine what it does!
I've often tried to find out from books - and failed!
It must have a proper name - maybe something associated with its use....
Flagship's post# 4 -  is helpful, it uses the term cowling - but I'm still none the wiser as to its purpose!
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,3930.0.html
Hope all's well with you and yours
Rosie

Hi Rosie - When you say 'squatty bit' of the funnel are you referring to the red bit that sticks out at the back? If so I believe that is a vent for steam? Please take a look at the attached picture and you will see that there is steam coming out of the rear of the funnel. (Sorry it is very poor quality).
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Offline Rod

Re: The Funnel
« Reply #136 on: Apr 21, 2014, 11:38 PM »
To go to Adams pic....the "squatty bit" I do like that description, we used to call it " the red bit"
does indeed have a task.
To hide stuff!.
As you can see from Adams pic, there is steam blowing off, thats a "no-no" BTW.
All the steam safety valves used to vent up there. The gap between the "SB" and the rest of the funnel was there for 2 reasons.
At the base of the funnel you had wind scoops, that at speed, would accelerate the flow of air upwards to blow all boiler gasses up...with the ships speed, these should combine to take the noxious, acidic gasses away from the ship and the corrosion caused,by them.....Also not too many pax would be gassed!
The gap between the "SB" and the boiler vent aided this and also acted as a cooler for the boiler gas.


Jeez a whole post about gas!

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Re: The Funnel
« Reply #137 on: Apr 21, 2014, 11:41 PM »
Thanks for your reply Rod. When you say the steam was a no-no, does that mean it is not supposed to come out there? Unless in an emergency when the safety valves were triggered?
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Offline Rod

Re: The Funnel
« Reply #138 on: Apr 22, 2014, 03:45 PM »
Safety valves should only go off in an emergency, or for annual testing.
If  a sudden reduction in speed was called for, they could go off if the MCR Engineer was not paying attention and ordering a reduction in burners.
Whenever safeties were "lifted" you ran the risk of them not closing properly with the attendant headaches that might bring!

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« Reply #139 on: Apr 22, 2014, 03:45 PM »
Ah thanks for that information Rod.
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