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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #201 on: Jun 02, 2021, 07:35 AM »
And from the Daily Mail today

Who will pay to save rusty Queen Mary? Famed liner is in danger of SINKING without £16million of urgent repairs, documents show

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9642447/British-ship-RMS-Queen-Mary-risk-sinking-California-unless-16million-repairs-sanctioned.html
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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #202 on: Jun 02, 2021, 12:07 PM »
It is highly unlikely that there will be any government intervention, as The Big U is still sitting waiting for help with none apparently forthcoming.

Yes indeed.

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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #203 on: Jun 02, 2021, 12:19 PM »
Hey...let her capsize and re-open as a Poseidon adventure themed exhibit! Just kidding folks, hope they can save her.

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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #204 on: Jun 02, 2021, 09:13 PM »
Are we not rather like the early days of QE2 and Dubai, getting a tad hysterical over this .

IF she is going to sink, just how far will she sink, she not exactly floating in a great depth of water Or when they talk of sinking do they mean she will gently drop a few feet, and with the sudden impact, then collapse like a deck of playing cards . Now as for the capsizing and with all the many and great reports that have been published by the vast array of experts do they know which way she will capsize.

If the capsizing is to the portside then that gets rid of the sub, and that's saved a million dollars and if it to the starboard side, does that mean she will pull down the monstrosity that is attached to the berth  .

As for the Big U,How much is being charged per month to keep her there, every now and then theres a scare story to increase funding and nothing ever comes of it , In fact we are due a scare story sometime soon.
IF that scare story happens to be the case that Queen Mary is due to go very soon, can we expect the Big U to be towed over to Long Beach and they transfer all the stuff over then just pull out Queen Mary and slide the Big U into the gap. Given reading some of the newspaper reporting lm surprised we haven't had this version printed .     
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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #205 on: Jun 06, 2021, 11:04 AM »
Wife & I got a little tired of looking at the inside of the house so we packed the car and took off around the top quarter of NZ to get away from it all. Whilst wandering around in an antique shop, I found a book that had just come in from an estate sale - the book was first published in 1985, and was on sale aboard RMS Queen Mary for resident hotel guests only. Not a big book, page-number wise, but some beautiful historic photos of her life. Some are so large dimension-wise that my scanner may have problems with the overhang.

For the technophobes among you, here is the first one! I should explain that 16 turbine rotors comes from each shaft having Low Pressure Ahead - Low Pressure Astern, plus High Pressure Ahead, and Hi Pressure Astern. Repeat this for each of 4 shafts and you have 16 turbines in total. Then you have the electrical turbo generators as well. So there was some very precisely-machined & assembled large componentry down below!

This process will be slow as tax returns are nearly due here and so I really have to concentrate on that.

Cheers,
Skilly
« Last Edit: Jun 06, 2021, 11:58 AM by skilly56 »

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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #206 on: Jun 06, 2021, 01:45 PM »
Never realized that frames were sometimes  made of cast steel!

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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #207 on: Jun 06, 2021, 02:22 PM »
Great find!

Why was the propellor going to Southampton to be fitted?  Was it going to travel by water to Scotland from there or were her propellers replaced for some reason?
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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #208 on: Jun 06, 2021, 03:40 PM »
Rob,

Newly designed propellers were fitted in July 1938 after engineers determined the originals were not transferring the power available into sufficient thrust. They must have been right - Queen Mary, in August 1938, set a new crossing time that wasn't eclipsed for 14 more years! The photo shows one of the replacement props. It looks like they may have changed from 3-bladed props to 4-bladed items.

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No, my prop in the box still shows three blades.
« Last Edit: Jun 08, 2021, 07:57 AM by skilly56 »

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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #209 on: Jun 06, 2021, 08:43 PM »
Here is a photo of one of the props in the walk-through box added for visitors to see how big they are.
Nothing to gauge them against for size unfortunately.

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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #210 on: Jun 10, 2021, 08:04 AM »
Queen Mary Engine Room.

The first photo shows one of Queen Mary's turbines being assembled in 1934, after work was resumed on the ship after the stoppage during the Depression Period.

The following photos, taken 84 years later, show parts of the only remaining engine room as at July 2018.
The new turning gear in the 1934 photo has been brutalised - possibly someone tried to turn a partially seized shaft after not engaging the driving gear properly, or, more likely, as the damaged area of each tooth reduces on each successive tooth, the turning gear was engaged but the locking pin was not inserted, and the gear then disengaged itself under load.

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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #211 on: Jul 05, 2021, 11:43 AM »
The first two attached photos show Queen Mary's 1st Class Dining Salon - they were taken during the maiden voyage.
(From 'The Official Pictorial History - Queen Mary'. By the RMS Foundation, L.B., Calif. 1985, who obtained the photos from 20 different sources as acknowledged).

The lower colour photos I took in August 2018 in the same room, when we were staying on the ship in Long Beach.
At the fwd end of the 1st Class Dining Salon (today it is called The Grand Salon) is a map of the Atlantic Ocean, showing the normal winter and summer passage routes of the ship. The position of the ship was continuously shown by a crystal model creeping across it.

At the other end (aft end), the artwork entitled 'Merrie England' is the largest piece of art on the ship. It would appear the image in the maiden voyage photo was reversed, as my 2018 photo shows the image flipped horizontally, and my image is true-to-life. In the 1936 photo the horses and carriage are going left-to-right, and in my photo they are going right-to-left.

According to our guide, Disney's stripped this room when they were operating the ship - wanted to convert it into a conference centre.
Later on, another operator of the venue discovered all the panelling in a shed ashore, and had it all restored. I looked carefully around the edges of the panels, etc, and could find no evidence of damage anywhere. However, it must be remembered, this had all been done before during WWII, so it was just history repeating itself! The guide was very obliging - he raced around and turned on all the lighting for me to take these photos. Many of the current staff are very proud to be employed aboard the ship (that was in 2018 - unfortunately everything has now changed in 2021).

The 1st Class Salon is so large it can accommodate Cunard's first ship, the Britannia, plus Christopher Columbus' three ships, Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria, all at the same time!
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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #212 on: Jul 05, 2021, 12:49 PM »
Very interesting and impressive photos, Skilly, and what an extraordinary size! This would be an astonishing room in a building on land, and the mind boggles to think of it being transferred to a floating object on the sea.

For the sake of copyright, could you please add the source for the first two pictures, which provide an excellent contrast and show how the room was actually used. Thank you.

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Re: RMS Queen Mary in Long Beach
« Reply #213 on: Jul 06, 2021, 05:22 PM »
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Very interesting and impressive photos, Skilly, and what an extraordinary size!   
And on Sundays in Sunday Brunch mode the room is very much alive
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

 

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