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bobso

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2011, 05:39 PM »
As regards the R.M.S. Queen Elizabeth--does anyone know if there are pictures of the INTERIOR of her as the "Seawise University" BEFORE arsonists set fire to her? There are pleanty pictures of her interiors in her life as the "Queen Elizabeth"--but none that i can find of the interiors after conversion to the "Seawise University". Can any one in the Forum help me in my quest?

Offline Jeff Taylor

Re: Collectibles
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2011, 05:57 PM »
I've never seen one, and I keep my eye out for QE collectables.

Offline Twynkle

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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2011, 08:21 PM »
I haven't a copy bobso, but you may find pictures inside Clive Harvey's good book about her
R. M. S. QUEEN ELIZABETH
THE ULTIMATE SHIP
http://www.carmaniapress.co.uk/

The Maritime Museum at Greenwich might also be of help, too.

bobso

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2011, 05:49 AM »
Thanks Jeff and Twynkle for replying to my earlier mail regarding interior pictures of the R.M.S Queen Elizabeth. I will buy the book as suggested and if i find any pictures i will keep you informed.

bobso

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2011, 06:13 AM »
I have now sent an E-Mail to the Maritime Museum asking if they are able to help with pictures of the interior of the "Seawise University". I will let you know of their reply.

Offline Twynkle

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2011, 06:57 PM »
Thanks Jeff and Twynkle for replying to my earlier mail regarding interior pictures of the R.M.S Queen Elizabeth. I will buy the book as suggested and if i find any pictures i will keep you informed.

Hi bobso
The book isn't inexpensive - and may not have illustrations about her life post-Cunard!
It's a very good investment with regards to her build, and service life etc.
I wonder if anyone on the Forum might have a copy they could check out first?
By doing it this way, you wouldn't find yourself out of pocket, should there not be any illustrations from her time as Seawise University.
Rosie.

bobso

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2011, 08:12 AM »
Hi Twynkle, I will go to my local library to-morrow and see if the book is there. If not i will ask them to order it and will see if i can find the pictures i am looking for.Thanks for your help.

bobso

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2011, 11:42 AM »
Here is a link to a really fantastic model maker--his model of the RMS Queen Mary has to be seen to be believed. This link is to part one.

http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=123&topic_id=2448&mode=full

I will post the link to part 2 later.

bobso

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2011, 11:44 AM »

Online skilly56

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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2011, 01:12 PM »
Hi Bobso,

The 'Seawise University' itinerary had been published before she was 'torched'. One of her first ports of call was Picton, New Zealand, which is one of our deepest ports.

I can remember how, as a young marine engineer, I was deciding how to juggle my seatime schedule on the old Ligar Bay so that I could get to Picton and view this huge liner. At the time I worked 3 months on-1 month off, so I had some serious juggling to do, and company approvals for the roster change as well, before I could get to Picton.

Following the sinking of the Wahine, then the Queen Elizabeth burning out and sinking in Hong Kong, my ideal of working on passenger ships became a little tarnished and I have worked only on cargo and offshore vessels ever since.

After the 'Wahine' had sunk entering Wellington Harbour, the master of that ship, Hector Robertson, became the salvage master of the recovery of his own vessel. On completion of that task, I seem to recall he and his team then accepted the contract to cut up and salvage most of the Queen Elizabeth, using the same technique they'd used on the Wahine.

On looking at the post-fire photos recently posted on the forum, the damage to the Queen Elizabeth was far more extensive than the damage sustained by the 'Gothic' (1953 Royal Yacht). I worked (as an engineering apprentice) on the Gothic after the fire, and can recall the melted porcelain baths, the warped decks, and the melted and exploded windows. But, the fire was contained by a competent crew and master, Captain Agnew. As a result, the fire-ravaged sections of the accommodation were able to be blanked off, and the warped decks were boarded over to give the crew a level surface to work on, resulting in the ship doing several more UK-NZ return trips before she was finally scrapped.

It would appear that no attempt was made by the workers to contain the fire on the Queen Elizabeth. Unfortunately, those few people who were on board (and may have actually initiated the fires) would not have been trained in fighting shipboard fires, and the firefighting systems may have been down anyway.

Back in those days of exposure film and flashbulbs, I doubt anyone would have taken the time to photograph her interior during the refit, they would have been waiting until completion, so I doubt any photos would exist. Photos taken during refits often have no similarity at all to the finished product, as the mayhem and mess only tend to magically disappear during the final few days before sailing.

Skilly

 

bobso

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Re: Collectibles "Seawise University"
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2011, 06:45 PM »
To reply to Skilly56--Thanks for your observations regarding the Queen Elizabeth as the "Seawise Unversity" pictures of the interiors.
I agree with everything you have said. I sent a mail to Jeff with a link to a site that had (Supposed) interior pictures of the ship as it was burning. He replied that as the ship was on fire he doubted if anyone in their right mind would hang around and take pictures. Having seen the pictures i totally agree with him. I am enclosing the link for you all to read. If this has been posted before then i am sorry for repeating it.

http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/ubb-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=003303