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« on: Sep 13, 2010, 04:53 PM »
I got this lovely wee QE keyring (attached).  Its in pretty good knick considering it must be ancient BUT I think the wee ship is meant to be afloat on water/oil.  At the moment its just rattling around in the wee tube.

Can anyone advise on if this is rare/worth anything and if I'm right about it floating?  Its in better knick than the photo makes out - the camera focused on the "glass" but you can see the ship clearer than it looks.
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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #1 on: Sep 13, 2010, 05:32 PM »
It does look like a floating one to me, and yes they do dry out over time.  It's probably perspex rather than glass, and this does let the water very slowly evaporate - is it completely sealed where it was filled?
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Offline Stowaway2k

Re: Collectibles
« Reply #2 on: Sep 25, 2010, 11:47 PM »
Has this been seen here before?

apologies if it has...   ;)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/200505A07.html

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #3 on: Sep 26, 2010, 11:18 AM »
Thanks for posting this interesting video of the Queen Mary collectables.  I have a couple of Queen Mary collectables mainly to do with the launch but it would be fantastic to add more to my collection and this Antiques Roadshow clip just whetted my appetite to try to find more. 
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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #4 on: Sep 26, 2010, 11:40 AM »
Thanks for posting this interesting video of the Queen Mary collectables.  I have a couple of Queen Mary collectables mainly to do with the launch but it would be fantastic to add more to my collection and this Antiques Roadshow clip just whetted my appetite to try to find more.  

Queen Mary was launched on this day, 1934
Have fun with growing your collection!


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Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Collectibles
« Reply #5 on: Sep 26, 2010, 12:07 PM »
Thanks for that reminder Stowaway.  She was ideed launched on Wednesday 26 September 1934 at 3pm.  Should we put a Happy Birthday on the Queen Mary post
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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #6 on: Oct 31, 2010, 11:32 AM »
I do not have many pieces of memoriabilia for the Queen Mary and for this reason I treasure the launch tickets.  I have copied both front and back views of the ticket as on the back of the ticket there is a simple street plan to show where ticket holders should go for the launch depending on whether they were going to stand A, stand B or the enclosure. 
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Offline luzparis

Re: Collectibles
« Reply #7 on: Oct 31, 2010, 11:23 PM »
i have this old and nice cutaway of Queen Mary !! different of other ship sections

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #8 on: Nov 01, 2010, 08:40 AM »
Hi Luparis

What is the date that this Daily Mail supplement was published?  I would be interested to know this informationbut when I tried to zoom in I lost the definition. 
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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #9 on: Nov 01, 2010, 11:14 AM »
Its. A 1936 daily mail  advert sorry for the quality of my pictures
The ref: "the daily mail" tuesday march 24 1936 no 12 453
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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #10 on: Nov 01, 2010, 07:44 PM »
Thank-you for the information.  I had a look at a web site with old newspapers but they did not have the daily mail  for this date, but I will keep looking. 
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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #11 on: Nov 03, 2010, 04:51 PM »
Robert

Online Lynda Bradford

Re: Collectibles
« Reply #12 on: Nov 03, 2010, 05:52 PM »
The connection that the model was built by the Queen Mary Purser certainly makes the model even more interesting.  It would be appropriate  if one of the Glasgow museums such as the transport museum was to buy this but given that it is not too big,  I am sure there will be lots of interest from private buyers, who have an interest in the ship.   
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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #13 on: Nov 04, 2010, 07:16 AM »
Anyone fancy this model available at Trinity Marine.

http://www.trinitymarine.co.uk/products/156/2894/display_model_of_rms_queen_mary/

I agree with Lynda that the connection to the QM's purser makes this nice piece of folk art even more interesting... but...
it certainly isn't the
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Very detailed and stunning model
as the website says...   ;)  :o

oh, btw, regarding that Antiques Roadshow video posted above, that's me in it.   ;D




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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2011, 07:45 PM »
There are currently copies of Commodore Geoffrey Marr's book, 'The Queens and I'
on the Amazon UK site (from £6.98 - £184), as well as on ebay UK (from £45.)
An account of his life, both before and during his service with Cunard.
He includes details of life on board RMS Queen Mary,
and Queen Elizabeth as she struggles to reach HongKong; it is a superb book.

« Last Edit: May 07, 2011, 07:52 PM by Twynkle »

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2011, 05:39 PM »
As regards the R.M.S. Queen Elizabeth--does anyone know if there are pictures of the INTERIOR of her as the "Seawise University" BEFORE arsonists set fire to her? There are pleanty pictures of her interiors in her life as the "Queen Elizabeth"--but none that i can find of the interiors after conversion to the "Seawise University". Can any one in the Forum help me in my quest?

Offline Jeff Taylor

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2011, 05:57 PM »
I've never seen one, and I keep my eye out for QE collectables.

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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2011, 08:21 PM »
I haven't a copy bobso, but you may find pictures inside Clive Harvey's good book about her
R. M. S. QUEEN ELIZABETH
THE ULTIMATE SHIP
http://www.carmaniapress.co.uk/

The Maritime Museum at Greenwich might also be of help, too.

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2011, 05:49 AM »
Thanks Jeff and Twynkle for replying to my earlier mail regarding interior pictures of the R.M.S Queen Elizabeth. I will buy the book as suggested and if i find any pictures i will keep you informed.

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2011, 06:13 AM »
I have now sent an E-Mail to the Maritime Museum asking if they are able to help with pictures of the interior of the "Seawise University". I will let you know of their reply.

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2011, 06:57 PM »
Thanks Jeff and Twynkle for replying to my earlier mail regarding interior pictures of the R.M.S Queen Elizabeth. I will buy the book as suggested and if i find any pictures i will keep you informed.

Hi bobso
The book isn't inexpensive - and may not have illustrations about her life post-Cunard!
It's a very good investment with regards to her build, and service life etc.
I wonder if anyone on the Forum might have a copy they could check out first?
By doing it this way, you wouldn't find yourself out of pocket, should there not be any illustrations from her time as Seawise University.
Rosie.

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2011, 08:12 AM »
Hi Twynkle, I will go to my local library to-morrow and see if the book is there. If not i will ask them to order it and will see if i can find the pictures i am looking for.Thanks for your help.

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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2011, 11:42 AM »
Here is a link to a really fantastic model maker--his model of the RMS Queen Mary has to be seen to be believed. This link is to part one.

http://titanic-model.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=123&topic_id=2448&mode=full

I will post the link to part 2 later.

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Re: Collectibles
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2011, 11:44 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2011, 01:12 PM »
Hi Bobso,

The 'Seawise University' itinerary had been published before she was 'torched'. One of her first ports of call was Picton, New Zealand, which is one of our deepest ports.

I can remember how, as a young marine engineer, I was deciding how to juggle my seatime schedule on the old Ligar Bay so that I could get to Picton and view this huge liner. At the time I worked 3 months on-1 month off, so I had some serious juggling to do, and company approvals for the roster change as well, before I could get to Picton.

Following the sinking of the Wahine, then the Queen Elizabeth burning out and sinking in Hong Kong, my ideal of working on passenger ships became a little tarnished and I have worked only on cargo and offshore vessels ever since.

After the 'Wahine' had sunk entering Wellington Harbour, the master of that ship, Hector Robertson, became the salvage master of the recovery of his own vessel. On completion of that task, I seem to recall he and his team then accepted the contract to cut up and salvage most of the Queen Elizabeth, using the same technique they'd used on the Wahine.

On looking at the post-fire photos recently posted on the forum, the damage to the Queen Elizabeth was far more extensive than the damage sustained by the 'Gothic' (1953 Royal Yacht). I worked (as an engineering apprentice) on the Gothic after the fire, and can recall the melted porcelain baths, the warped decks, and the melted and exploded windows. But, the fire was contained by a competent crew and master, Captain Agnew. As a result, the fire-ravaged sections of the accommodation were able to be blanked off, and the warped decks were boarded over to give the crew a level surface to work on, resulting in the ship doing several more UK-NZ return trips before she was finally scrapped.

It would appear that no attempt was made by the workers to contain the fire on the Queen Elizabeth. Unfortunately, those few people who were on board (and may have actually initiated the fires) would not have been trained in fighting shipboard fires, and the firefighting systems may have been down anyway.

Back in those days of exposure film and flashbulbs, I doubt anyone would have taken the time to photograph her interior during the refit, they would have been waiting until completion, so I doubt any photos would exist. Photos taken during refits often have no similarity at all to the finished product, as the mayhem and mess only tend to magically disappear during the final few days before sailing.

Skilly

 

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Re: Collectibles "Seawise University"
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2011, 06:45 PM »
To reply to Skilly56--Thanks for your observations regarding the Queen Elizabeth as the "Seawise Unversity" pictures of the interiors.
I agree with everything you have said. I sent a mail to Jeff with a link to a site that had (Supposed) interior pictures of the ship as it was burning. He replied that as the ship was on fire he doubted if anyone in their right mind would hang around and take pictures. Having seen the pictures i totally agree with him. I am enclosing the link for you all to read. If this has been posted before then i am sorry for repeating it.

http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/ubb-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=3&t=003303