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Online Peter Mugridge

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QE2 Spare Anchor
« Reply #20 on: Apr 26, 2010, 05:29 PM »
Ahhhh......  Something like they went fishing with the anchor and caught something very large, then?  Like a "boomer"?! ;D







You do, of course, always have to be very careful with anchors anyway:

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Offline highlander0108

Re: QE2 Spare Anchor
« Reply #21 on: Apr 26, 2010, 06:22 PM »
There is a pic of the spare anchor stowed on deck in this thread.
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,1790.0/topicseen.html
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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Spare Anchor
« Reply #22 on: Apr 26, 2010, 06:26 PM »
Hi Ken,
What's number is the post, please?
Thanks,
Rosie.
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Re: QE2 Spare Anchor
« Reply #23 on: Apr 26, 2010, 06:34 PM »
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Offline Bob C.

Re: QE2 Spare Anchor
« Reply #24 on: Apr 26, 2010, 09:21 PM »
There is a pic of the spare anchor stowed on deck in this thread.
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,1790.0/topicseen.html


Are we talking about a spare anchor that was stored on deck on the focsle or one that was secured in its hawsepipe being the result of 3 bow anchors serviced by 2 anchor windlasses? 

I have not found a photo of a spare anchor stored topside.  See this link for an explanation of the "spare" anchor.  I think it is line with my thinking - 3 anchors, 2 windlasses.

http://books.google.com/books?id=hLFpqMZn5vkC&pg=PA195&lpg=PA195&dq=qe2+forward+anchor+storm&source=bl&ots=Xpdjawp97I&sig=RRf-E5N64bUG4Ur7byzAMmIkwnk&hl=en&ei=xPTVS_LwCMOC8gbIiPWCDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CAwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false
« Last Edit: Apr 26, 2010, 09:36 PM by Bob C. »

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Re: QE2 Spare Anchor
« Reply #25 on: Apr 26, 2010, 09:50 PM »
OK, its Monday and still have not recovered fully from the weekend.  I just found the picture of the spare anchor on the port focsle (1 Deck).  I initially mistook it for a hatch cover with the way the color and position made it look.

Ignore my rantings above but here is how I understand the "spare" anchor's history

1969-1981 - Spare anchor was any anchor not attached to the two anchor chain/windlass
1981 - Heavy seas during a storm jammed the forward anchor in its hawsepipe and required cutting out.
1981 - 1995 - Forward hawsepipe plated over and spare anchor stored on deck, focsle port side
1995 - Starboard anchor damaged and replaced.  Decision made to keep the spare anchor in a Southampton warehouse.
1996-present - Two forward anchors, port and stbd, with spare in warehouse.

I wonder what the damage was to the starboard anchor in '95 and if that anchor is presently the spare.

Online Michael Gallagher

Re: QE2 Spare Anchor
« Reply #26 on: Apr 27, 2010, 09:17 AM »
I've done some research into this now:

PLATING OVER STEM:

On 2 December 1976 QE2 ran into a really foul night of Atlantic weather. The 12.5-ton bow anchor came adrift and ripped a hole in the bulbous bow on its way into the sea. Constant pumping evicted the unwelcome Atlantic water.
QE2 was diverted to Boston for repairs which involved fitting metal patches inside and out. The ship had be tilted slightly by ballasting to enable workmen to repair the gash. Work was completed in time to allow QE2 to sail on her Caribbean cruise on schedule with the cruise passengers being brought to Boston from New York by plane and train. The bow anchor was never replaced so the stem was plated over.

1995:

While approaching anchorage in 1 November 1995 it was noticed that the starboard anchor had been damaged and 50% of one fluke was missing. QE2 carried a spare anchor (positioned on the foredeck) and Captain Burton-Hall suggested that the spare should replace the damaged anchor while QE2 was in Amsterdam overnight on 13 / 14 December 1995 as Southampton lacked the necessary floating crane, barge and dockyard requirements. The spare anchor did require some work to free up the shackle but this proved difficult to do so a new anchor was purchased from Lloyds Beal in Cardiff for £6,740. Regulations which insisted a spare anchor was carried changed so a spare anchor did not need to be carried so the spare was removed from the foredeck while QE2 was dry docked in Southampton for her 1996 refit and sent to the Testbank Storage facility near the dry dock for storage. There it remained until 2009 when it was presented to the City of Southampton as a reminder of QE2.

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Spare Anchor
« Reply #27 on: Apr 27, 2010, 12:24 PM »
Hello,
This is really interesting!
What good things to learn about - Thank You.
I read about the stormy night when Queen Mary's anchor became really fouled up in a considerable amount of cabling on the sea-bed in Cherbourg harbour - thought to be left there after WWll).
(there's a proper expression for this!)
I wonder - do you know whether did the same thing ever happen to QE2?



« Last Edit: Apr 28, 2010, 09:14 AM by ancoaster78 »
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The Stern Anchor
« Reply #28 on: Apr 27, 2010, 09:56 PM »
I've been watching interesting topics pop up about various components of the ship but have not read much about the need, use and design of the stern anchor.

I do not recall QM or QE having one, is QE2 the first liner of her size (Cunard or otherwise) to have one?  One thats Integrated into the hull?

Also, where is the windlass and chain locker for the stern anchor?  Seems that space is very limited astern even for a shorter chain.  Anyone been onboard when the stern anchor was in use?

Thanks! 

Offline Chris Frame

Re: The Stern Anchor
« Reply #29 on: Apr 28, 2010, 02:19 AM »
I don't recall ever seeing QE2 use her stern anchor at any of our anchor ports.

I wonder if it was used at all in recent times?

Offline Stowaway2k

Re: The Stern Anchor
« Reply #30 on: Apr 28, 2010, 03:23 AM »
December 2004
St. Thomas  US Virgin Islands

Offline Twynkle

Re: The Stern Anchor
« Reply #31 on: Apr 28, 2010, 08:46 AM »
A superb image, Kyle!
Interesting to see why the stern anchor was used, too!
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Offline matdark

Re: QE2 Anchors - An amalgamation of all previous Anchor threads.
« Reply #32 on: Apr 28, 2010, 10:05 AM »
@Bob C. Normandie definitely had a stern anchor.

I don't think the France had one originally, even though one was added when she became the Norway
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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Anchors - An amalgamation of all previous Anchor threads.
« Reply #33 on: Jun 16, 2010, 01:53 PM »
QE2 doing what she does best....
This is just so good!
Thanks to ColemanHeald
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Offline highlander0108

Re: The Stern Anchor
« Reply #34 on: Jun 20, 2010, 02:42 PM »
December 2004
St. Thomas  US Virgin Islands


I took the exact same photo in October 2000, unfortunately not in digital format yet, but I went back and confirmed the stern anchor was deployed then too.
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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Anchors - An amalgamation of all previous Anchor threads.
« Reply #35 on: Oct 30, 2010, 09:50 AM »
Stern with cable!
Did she have another anchor on the portside?
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/photo990962.htm
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Offline Andrew Collier

Re: QE2 Anchors - An amalgamation of all previous Anchor threads.
« Reply #36 on: Dec 07, 2010, 09:52 AM »
Hey Rosie,

No, stern anchor starboard only.

 8)

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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Anchors - An amalgamation of all previous Anchor threads.
« Reply #37 on: Dec 07, 2010, 10:03 AM »
Hey Rosie,

No, stern anchor starboard only.

 8)



Hi Andytooo  8) and :)

Thanks for your post - do you think there's a technical reason for this?
Thinking of wind, shape of anchorage, lie of the land etc,
it's curious that the designers et al didn't think it necessary
 - or maybe they did, but someone else didn't!

Rosie

 
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Offline Andrew Collier

Re: QE2 Anchors - An amalgamation of all previous Anchor threads.
« Reply #38 on: Dec 07, 2010, 03:47 PM »
Rosie,

The stern anchor would only normally be used occasionally. To secure the stern to stop it from swinging, or to assist holding the ship fast in very difficult conditions. The main anchors at the bow are used to actually hold the ship in place in normal use without use of the stern anchor at all.

The stern anchor is therefore a secondary one, and so no need to worry about one each side.

Plenty of ships don't even have a stern anchor at all.

QE2's was very neatly and discreetly fitted, another touch of genius by the designers!

8)
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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Anchors - An amalgamation of all previous Anchor threads.
« Reply #39 on: Dec 07, 2010, 04:29 PM »
Rosie,

The stern anchor would only normally be used occasionally. To secure the stern to stop it from swinging, or to assist holding the ship fast in very difficult conditions. The main anchors at the bow are used to actually hold the ship in place in normal use without use of the stern anchor at all.

The stern anchor is therefore a secondary one, and so no need to worry about one each side.

Plenty of ships don't even have a stern anchor at all.

QE2's was very neatly and discreetly fitted, another touch of genius by the designers!

8)

Thanks Andytooo,

I very much agree about the neat and discreet fitting, and of course - the genius of the designers ;)
The question of  potential for extra versatility came into my mind, simply because QE2 is a ship that was expected to take passengers to some places (albeit rare, say on the world cruises) where the ability to anchor was essential, yet difficult.
I wondered too, how many anchor ports of call that QE2 made - that were then discounted after the maiden visit, purely for technical reasons due to the anchoring 'stuff'! (off topic, perhaps - nevertheless interesting)
Queen Elizabeth definitely struggled with some of her anchorages, and maybe that was why QE2 got three in the first place.

:)


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