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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #60 on: Apr 21, 2012, 07:02 PM »
About whether or not to anchor...
Do you know whether QE2 was ever 'parked' over the anchorage without dropping her anchor - with the auto-pilot +GPS, and manual positioning used to hold her instead?
On board QV this 'practice' was used twice recently, and becoming a commonplace way of holding her (depending on wind-strength etc).
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #61 on: Apr 21, 2012, 08:50 PM »
About whether or not to anchor...
Do you know whether QE2 was ever 'parked' over the anchorage without dropping her anchor - with the auto-pilot +GPS, and manual positioning used to hold her instead?
On board QV this 'practice' was used twice recently, and becoming a commonplace way of holding her (depending on wind-strength etc).

QE2 didn't have this capability at all. With no adequate bow thrusters, and no stern thrusters at all, this ability was totally out of the question!

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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #62 on: Apr 22, 2012, 12:00 AM »
The spare anchor in snowy weather


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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #63 on: Apr 22, 2012, 05:40 AM »
Cool photo Louis.   :)

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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #64 on: Apr 23, 2012, 10:06 AM »

One of the things I've learned from owning an old car, is that absolutely everything can be fixed, and made to work as good as new, but at a cost.  Certain bits of it do indeed work as good as new, but other bits are on my to-do list, or I'm waiting for them to get worse before it is worth doing anything about it.  But overall, the car is not getting worse.

When things are known to have failed like this, does it not conspire to give an overall air of "worn out" to the ship, that is not fair?  And does this air, not affect the crew?  I'm sure all the crucial stuff was absolutely fine, but all the non-crucial stuff...  If I was a new Captain given command of QE2, and then told all the various things I couldn't do because they were broken (stern anchors and bow thrusters spring to mind), would that not cause me to have a certain attitude to her also?

I agree, that everything can be fixed, however shipping companies are renowned for their cost cutting, especially if the passengers can't see it. The stern anchor was seldom used, and to be perfectly honest, not that useful when it was, hence the reason it was never repaired. The bow thrusters didn't need repairing at all - they needed replacing - but that's another story. They were underpowered when she was built, and at the end it was more cost effective to use tugs than go to the expense of replacing them.

There was a slight demoralising feeling that we felt when things weren't done, but as well as being proud of our ship, we were also realists in that the ship must make money to survive. If that meant a job being delayed in order to keep the budgets in check, then you just have to 'grin and bear it'. The standing joke during dry-docks was of a superhuman 'Red Pen Man', who flies in to the yard in the middle of the night, and puts a red pen through the dry dock spec, hence reducing the jobs and money outlay. That got extremely frustrating, especially when it was something that really did need doing, but I don't think it we allowed it to get to us too much. I think the thing which frustrated us the most was when it was a job which the passengers noticed. We would inevitably get screamed and shouted at, as if it was our fault that the office had cut the budget, but again, 'just grin and bear it'! It allows them to get it off their chest, and we have a good old moan in the Wardy in the evening.

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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #65 on: Aug 05, 2012, 07:34 PM »
About the anchor in Southampton.
Did this anchor ever 'see active service'?
If it didn't, and if QE2 carried three anchors (?)
this could have have been her fourth....
So, just wondering - in all, how many anchors were made for QE2?
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #66 on: Jun 10, 2018, 11:50 AM »
A Sunday morning is a good time to reflect on some of the fascinating topics on the forum and this one on QE2 Anchors comes into this category. 

Highlander 0108 had started the topic when he asked the question "Does anyone  know when and why the bow anchor was removed and the plate welded over the opening?"  This led to some excellent discussion and sharing of expertise. 

Michael Gallagher researched and posted that the 12.5 bow anchor had become adrift during an Atlantic Storm in 1976 the bow anchor was never replaced so the space was plated over

I enjoyed watching the Coleman Heald video that Rosie posted, showing the QE2 preparations leaving Guernsey for the last time in 2008

Rod reminded us that it is the weight of the anchor chain that holds the ship in place which led to further discussions. 

Fantastic discussion on this features of the QE2 topic.   I have highlighted a few of my favourite posts from this topic, but take time to start at the beginning and be prepared to learn from our QE2 members who have taken time to share their expertise.  Enjoy!
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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #67 on: Jun 10, 2018, 01:58 PM »
This is such a good topic!

About the weight of the Anchor as well as the measurements of the cable - just wondering whether the length to drop it would have depended on several things, not least the conditions - including wind, weather as well the weight per fathom...
Is this a decision resting solely with the deck department  - Bridge, Master, Pilot etc,
The Bosun?
And the Engineers, would they have been consulted as well? 
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #68 on: Jun 10, 2018, 08:19 PM »
An excellent topic, showing what makes this forum so good (sharing knowledge and memories/experiences with like minded people).

I realise I have posted this video of my Dad's before but one can hear the anchor chains settling in the portside anchor's anchor locker at around 47 seconds and this was QE2's final visit to Monte Carlo/Monaco on Saturday 26th July 2008...something we only knew about when hauling up anchor due to an announcement by Captain Perkins (if my memory is correct) - there was no fuss and there were no celebrations onboard or from the port for reasons Michael has stated elsewhere on this forum.


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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #69 on: May 13, 2020, 05:32 PM »
For Rob and Rod's viewing regarding the anchor's "brake" system as we discussed in the group Zoom video call two weeks ago. A collection of my Dad's (James A Hypher's) photo from in port in Malaga, and my photos from her last 5 years at sea and one from back this January in Dubai which I think has the "brake" system fully in place? Furthermore, if the Dubai photo is of the "brake" system it seems to have answered a long term question of mine in regards to why that part of the anchor setup sticks up in the air relative to the foredeck - to allow the "brake" system to be in place and function properly?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2020, 05:39 PM by Thomas Hypher »
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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #70 on: May 13, 2020, 05:46 PM »
A further photo in the link below, from early in QE2's life, showing a more substantial "brake" system seemingly the same as now used in Dubai?

This sure makes one think of the forces involved to rip the centre anchor, presumably with the anchor chain via the anchor locker too, from the ship in that particular North Atlantic storm in the late 1970s.

http://www.modelships.info/debrisfield/resources/qe2/donQE215.jpg
« Last Edit: May 13, 2020, 05:53 PM by Thomas Hypher »
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Re: QE2 Anchors
« Reply #71 on: May 14, 2020, 01:34 AM »
Not understanding that last pic. Stbd anchor windlass, chain appears to be connected to the stem anchor!
Michael Gallagher perhaps?