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Offline Andy F

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #120 on: Aug 23, 2011, 07:43 PM »
Curiously - the blue, white and red flag, stbd on QE2's great mast - it doesn't seem quite right for Southampton water, or does it?!
Is it a nautical 'call sign'?

Looks like the French tricolore to me but quite why it would be flying while alongside in Soton is beyond me  ???
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Offline Andrew Collier

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #121 on: Aug 24, 2011, 12:25 AM »
Great video but it's deffinatly the French tricolour, I'm sure there is no other nautical use for the flag, I don't know but I suggest that part of the clip isn't filmed in Soton at all but added seperatly to the video, just a thought....
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Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #122 on: Aug 24, 2011, 07:00 AM »
That is the French flag which means the ship is in a french port, it can only be like Andy says two clips in one.Great video though.

Offline Andy F

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #123 on: Aug 30, 2011, 11:31 PM »
I have to agree Andy C and Louis as there is no nautical flag to my knowledge with that combination (just goes to show that things are not always quite as they seem!). 

Returning to the whistle, we were indeed treated to many an extended blast during her final 18mnths in service but whenever it went on for any length of time, it's resonating sound was not unlike a didgeridoo I always thought.  Listen again and see what you think... 
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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #124 on: Feb 06, 2012, 03:20 PM »
QE2's Whistle Blowing and Blowing Passing Northumbrian Quay 17 Sept 2007

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Offline Barrie Evans

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #125 on: Feb 06, 2012, 04:48 PM »
Hi Rosie, Did you know that the  Q E 2  has three whistles,  audible  for ranges of up to 2 miles. !  On the mast there is one air whistle and one electric whistle,  used for making sound signals when the ship is manoevring. There is also one on the foredeck for use when the ship is in restricted visibility ( this whistle being sounded every 2 minuets by an automatic timer).  As you know all whistles are tested at noon each day. It always used to make me jump out of my skin, when we were having a drink at the funnel bar. ;D
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Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #126 on: Feb 06, 2012, 05:45 PM »
Hi Barrie - Thank you!
I did know :)
Strictly speaking - she has two whistles and a fog horn!
(It was the latter that caused one or two unsuspecting guests in the Grand Suites to have sleepless nights whilst she courageously made her way as she passed the Grand Banks off Newfoundland!)
You'll find lots more here about her great Whistles if you start on the link below to the first page of this topic:
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.0.html
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Offline Barrie Evans

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #127 on: Feb 06, 2012, 09:19 PM »
Hi Barrie - Thank you!
I did know :)
Strictly speaking - she has two whistles and a fog horn!
(It was the latter that caused one or two unsuspecting guests in the Grand Suites to have sleepless nights whilst she courageously made her way as she passed the Grand Banks off Newfoundland!)
You'll find lots more here about her great Whistles if you start on the link below to the first page of this topic:
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.0.html
Rosie


 
Hi Rosie,Thanks for the link for the Q E 2 whistle. It made very interesting reading. I noticed on one of your posts that it quoted on November 2nd 2008 , that the Q E 2 was in The "Pool"on her final visit.  I know on that date, she actually was in the port of Messina, Sicily
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Offline Rod

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #128 on: Feb 06, 2012, 10:32 PM »
Actually, ALL the whistles could be set off automatically, or manually. Turn the switch on the bridge to what you want to blow then push the button or set it for timed!

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #129 on: Feb 06, 2012, 10:41 PM »
Actually, ALL the whistles could be set off automatically, or manually. Turn the switch on the bridge to what you want to blow then push the button or set it for timed!

Might this be the switch here?
Ok, admit it!

Put your hand up those who have deafened everyone on deck by pushing this button (top right)

Just give me time to find my ear muffs first.

Cheers

Skilly

There a photo on Skilly's post - bit like an egg-timer!
That's so cool. 8)



« Last Edit: Feb 06, 2012, 11:18 PM by Twynkle »
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Offline Rod

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #130 on: Apr 20, 2012, 12:03 AM »
One thing I never did was blow the whistle. Repaired it many times...but never blew it!

Offline Disco747

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #131 on: Jun 17, 2012, 06:18 PM »
I miss the wonderful deep throbbing bass blast of QE2's whistles! QE2 has the most awesome whistle sound of any ship!

Offline Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #132 on: Jul 07, 2012, 11:54 PM »
Great picture of her foghorn here in 1985 -- and some human figures to show off its impressive size!


img025 by paul8622, on Flickr

And here, the approach to New York, with the twin towers looming ahead :


img018 by paul8622, on Flickr

With thanks to paul8622.
« Last Edit: Jul 07, 2012, 11:56 PM by Isabelle Prondzynski »

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Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #133 on: Jul 07, 2012, 11:58 PM »
Very impressive, yes - though I must say from that angle the appearance reminds me of the "Hoot" from "The Clangers"! ;D
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Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #134 on: Apr 28, 2014, 04:23 PM »
Very interesting pictures. The people show you just how big that foghorn is! It would be great to see people stood next to the tyfons to see how huge they are!
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Offline Bob van Leeuwen

Horn and Whistle
« Reply #135 on: Aug 21, 2015, 10:15 PM »
This might seen to be a strange topic, but I could not find a satisfactory answer on Google, what is precisely the difference between a horn and a whistle? Ore are they the same?


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Offline Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Horn and Whistle
« Reply #136 on: Aug 21, 2015, 10:47 PM »
Have a look here, Bob :

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.msg11318.html#msg11318

-- and indeed you might find the entire topic fascinating!
« Last Edit: Aug 22, 2015, 11:14 PM by Isabelle Prondzynski »

Offline Twynkle

Re: Horn and Whistle
« Reply #137 on: Aug 21, 2015, 11:31 PM »
Hi Bob

Hope you will enjoy the posts on this topic.
It's one of the best!

A car has a horn, and ship has a whistle :)
Or - the horn is for land, the whistle for sea!
As jungle James mentions here
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,148.msg13898.html#msg13898

Good listening!
« Last Edit: Apr 22, 2016, 12:56 PM by Twynkle »
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Offline Bob van Leeuwen

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #138 on: Aug 27, 2015, 08:28 PM »
Thank you so much for the replies, sadly I didn't have time to read it as thorough as I have wanted to do before, a lot of school work this week. But I just made the time right now to read it, and the link provided answered  my question, again thank you so much :)

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Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #139 on: Apr 21, 2016, 06:42 PM »
What maintenance and/or repair would need to be done to QE2's whistle for it to function well again ?  And what would need to be done to operate her whistle off of shore power ?
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Offline skilly56

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #140 on: Apr 22, 2016, 10:40 AM »
This might seen to be a strange topic, but I could not find a satisfactory answer on Google, what is precisely the difference between a horn and a whistle? Are are they the same?

Answer - Basically, a ship's horn forces compressed air through a hole in a diaphragm and makes it vibrate at a particular resonant frequency, thus creating sound waves that we hear (except for some of us silly buggers that have stood in front of too many horns, and are now deaf!).
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_horn

A whistle passes high pressure steam or air out of a square orifice cut into a tuned tube (a bit like blowing down into a straw or pipe,but much more powerful). A whistle can also be created by a pea spinning around inside a little drum with a square opening on top. By blowing through the little drum, we are passing air under pressure out the little square orifice on top, and the pea makes it resonate. Think rugby referee!

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_whistle

Maintenance would involve stripping & overhauling the compressor, cleaning the diaphragms, checking for cracks, & reassembling with new joints.
Some ship's horns are run from the engine starting air or auxiliary system air receivers, and some are self-contained with the motor, air compressor, & horn in the one unit.
To run on shore power the compressor motor voltage must be compatible with the shore power voltage as supplied, whatever the configuration of the horn.

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Offline Twynkle

Re: Horn and Whistle
« Reply #141 on: Apr 22, 2016, 12:57 PM »
Thanks so much, Skilly
As a matter of interest - can the Fog-Horn be varied in length of blast as well as the frequency that it sounds - is this a legal maritime requirement?
Is it regulated and set from the Bridge, or do the mechanics happen down in with the ECR etc?

(Hoping the topic here is OK?)
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Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #142 on: Apr 22, 2016, 01:45 PM »
Thanks, Skilly, for all of this information.  So, conceivably, QE2's whistle (horn) could be sounded from shore power if configured correctly.  I wonder if those is Dubai would consider doing that.

Very good point and question, Rosie.  I too would be interested in learning about the fog horn and its operation and regulations for use.

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Offline Thomas Hypher

Re: Horn and Whistle
« Reply #143 on: Nov 12, 2017, 06:48 PM »
Thanks so much, Skilly
As a matter of interest - can the Fog-Horn be varied in length of blast as well as the frequency that it sounds - is this a legal maritime requirement?
Is it regulated and set from the Bridge, or do the mechanics happen down in with the ECR etc?

(Hoping the topic here is OK?)

I know I'm digging up an old topic but the fog horn could be changed in frequency of sounding on the Bridge with no involvement from the ECR as visible in Rob's photo from his Flickr and almost visible in my photo from July 2008 (second photo).

The controls for QE2's mighty whistles by Rob Lightbody, on Flickr

QE2 Mediterranean cruise, July 2008 (my last trip on QE2) by Thomas Hypher, on Flickr

On another note (see what I did there  ;) ) QE2's signal mast horns appear to be of the D and D# (sharp) notes respectively from my research (non scientific with my MIDI keyboard playing at a similar octave through my Hi-Fi speakers).

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Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #144 on: Nov 13, 2017, 01:07 AM »
Am I the only one who really just REALLY wants to press a button and hear the horns?
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Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #145 on: Nov 13, 2017, 12:35 PM »
Am I the only one who really just REALLY wants to press a button and hear the horns?

Haha no, I would have and do want to!
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Offline Pete Hamill

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #146 on: Nov 14, 2017, 12:56 PM »
Other than at the noon tests, I believe, as shown in the photo, the switch was left at the "both" setting meaning that when  the button was pressed, the air and electric whistle/ horns sounded together and being slightly different frequencies gave rise to the characteristic beat frequency we all came to enjoy.

Offline Thomas Hypher

Installation of the Bow Fog Horn
« Reply #147 on: Jan 10, 2018, 05:04 AM »
Hello Everyone,

It has just occurred to me despite studying QE2 quite closely since a young child, that she didn't have a bow mounted fog horn when completed in 1969. I seem to recall reading on this forum that it was fitted due to complaints from passengers in the penthouses caused by the main horns having to be used as fog horns prior to the retrofitting. I was wondering when the original bow foghorn was installed (seems to have been around 1977 from studying photos)?, noting that it occupies some of the space that was taken up by the bow anchor until it was lost in a severe North Atlantic storm sometime in the 1970s (when?).

I am aware that the small mast like structure the foghorn sits on was ripped from the deck by the September 1995 freak wave/s but remained onboard (by some miracle it seems!) and was put back in place. However, the dark painted, round shaped original fog horn seems to have subsequently been replaced by today's vertically orientated rectangular shaped fog horn during her mid 1996 (last) KGV drydocking which repaired the foredeck damage caused the previous September?

Would anyone have any further details/information on my above questions and statements?

Thank you, and please excuse my thoroughness and lack of conciseness!

Thomas
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Offline Lynda Bradford

Re: Installation of the Bow Fog Horn
« Reply #148 on: Jan 10, 2018, 12:02 PM »
Hello Thomas, there are some good photos of the bow foghorn on the Foredeck Layout topic

See photo of the foghorn posted by Chris in reply 5 https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,2074.msg22732.html#msg22732

Captain Martini asks what happened to the original tall foredeck mast that was probably replaced by the Foghorn and he thinks it was post 1977 after the addition of suites.   https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,2074.msg76417.html#msg76417

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Re: Installation of the Bow Fog Horn
« Reply #149 on: Jan 10, 2018, 02:46 PM »

Hello Everyone,

It has just occurred to me despite studying QE2 quite closely since a young child, that she didn't have a bow mounted fog horn when completed in 1969. I seem to recall reading on this forum that it was fitted due to complaints from passengers in the penthouses caused by the main horns having to be used as fog horns prior to the retrofitting. I was wondering when the original bow foghorn was installed (seems to have been around 1977 from studying photos)?, noting that it occupies some of the space that was taken up by the bow anchor until it was lost in a severe North Atlantic storm sometime in the 1970s (when?).

I am aware that the small mast like structure the foghorn sits on was ripped from the deck by the September 1995 freak wave/s but remained onboard (by some miracle it seems!) and was put back in place. However, the dark painted, round shaped original fog horn seems to have subsequently been replaced by today's vertically orientated rectangular shaped fog horn during her mid 1996 (last) KGV drydocking which repaired the foredeck damage caused the previous September?

Would anyone have any further details/information on my above questions and statements?

Thank you, and please excuse my thoroughness and lack of conciseness!

Thomas

I still cannot find a date when "the foghorn" was installed, although around the time of the penthouse installations is a reasonable estimate.   

The QE2 Whistles has some interesting discussions and mention is made of the foghorn:

Chris Casino mentioned "The Foghorn on the fore-deck was installed to reduce the noise levels in the penthouse cabins."
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.msg12849.html#msg12849

Wonderful photo from Isabelle in the QE2 Whistles topic
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.msg47548.html#msg47548
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Offline pete cain

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #150 on: Jan 10, 2018, 07:19 PM »
just so love the bakelite switches, on the control panel, they must have so much to tell

Offline Thomas Hypher

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #151 on: Jan 10, 2018, 08:39 PM »
From some Google images research of her in the 1970s, the fog horn appears to have only been added after her 1977 Bayonne refit with the addition of the grand suites (Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth). But after she lost her bow anchor (whenever that was in the late 1970s).
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Offline Thomas Hypher

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #152 on: Jan 10, 2018, 08:42 PM »
just so love the bakelite switches, on the control panel, they must have so much to tell

Indeed! It was very interesting to see her original bridge equipment working side by side with modern "2000s" era equipment that had been retrofitted. She was a hybrid in many, many ways, and still is in a lot of ways.
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Offline Thomas Hypher

Re: QE2 Whistles
« Reply #153 on: Jan 10, 2018, 08:50 PM »
Other than at the noon tests, I believe, as shown in the photo, the switch was left at the "both" setting meaning that when  the button was pressed, the air and electric whistle/ horns sounded together and being slightly different frequencies gave rise to the characteristic beat frequency we all came to enjoy.

In a couple of videos from her last tandem (with QM2 - I was on QM2) in October 2008 there is a slight delay in both main horns sounding, a split second where you hear only one and then the familiar beat frequency starts. Heard onboard her and QM2. This was despite both being set to sound.

I am unsure where the fog horn's controls are as the original control panel does not seem to include it (for obvious reason)?
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