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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #120 on: Oct 19, 2010, 08:01 PM »
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could have been a good idea....to .keep the old QE2 crowd from moaning...

 

 :o :o :o :o Moaning... them.. us, words fail me ......   :-X :-X :-X LOL
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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #121 on: Oct 21, 2010, 10:49 AM »
   
 This is about the artwork etc transferred to QE from QE2....

Those copy prints of those 2 wonderful paintings on QE2. the one of the Queen Mother and The Queen and Prince Philip....I'm sure it was A Stairway...

They are in the Queens Room on QE..much smaller of course...but to be honest I really don't care for them..they just look so artificial somehow after seeing the originals on QE2....  And of course thats what has been done on the other 2 Queens as well......just copies....I'm no Art connoisseur  but I don't think there is half as much original artwork on the new Queens as what QE2 had do you?

Also the Royal Standard from QE2 Queens room looks somewhat smaller...or is it because it's in a smaller frame.. I hope its not a copy as well....but it doesn't look too good either....somehow I feel the things taken from QE2 to put on the new ship was an afterthought as where they are placed around the ship are very insignificant...you would walk past the Royal Standard whereas on QE2 they were pride of place in huge frames....they were taken off QE2 on the final day from Southampton on 11 Nov 08 supposedly to be restored to their former glory.  ( sure don't look like it on QE)

And don't mention that Bust of HM....the new gilding colour and position......I will say no more....I wish they had just left her where she belonged......but then what state would they be in if anything like the bell?


If I had never seen them on QE2 this probably wouldn't bother me at all.

The exception is that wonderful Silver Model of QE2 now in pride of place in the yacht club on QE....I wish I could remember what the signal flags spell out...Michael did tell me but I have since forgotten...I know it's something wonderful about our QE2 and rightly so!



What are your thoughts on this?
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Offline Mauretania1907

Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #122 on: Oct 24, 2010, 08:28 AM »
I assume this bell on its stand is Not the focastle bell. So, a question, what bell is this? The fo'castle bell is part of the ship's equipment (I think) but a ship can have other bells, some hers and some from former ships of the fleet.
2. I never saw the silver model of QE2, as it was put about about ten years after I had my only voyage in her in 1989.
The builders plate is quite another thing, I thought it was always an integral part of the ship to show who built her. However the engines and other machinery aboard also have their own maker's plates. Another forlorn ship missing her builder's plate is United States, hers was sold years ago, as was much of her bridge equipment, in fact she is missing lots of stuff, interior fittings and all sorts.
If Cunard has purchased these things back to adorn their new Vista, I hope Nakheel charged them heaps, especially for the builder's plate. I am with Rob on this one, the jewels are being robbed while the lady still lives.
I know there were certain things which were on loan to QE2, such as the painting of the Mauretania and paintings by Stephen Card. The silver model might also be in this category.

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #123 on: Oct 25, 2010, 04:07 AM »
The Mauretania painting was taken off the ship in Newcastle in 2008. It is currently on display in a local museum.

The paintings referred to of the Queen Mother and the current Queen were in the First Class Stairwell, on Quarter Deck.

The bust of the Queen greets people on their arrival into the Queen's Room. It's a different position to that occupied on QE2, but that isn't necessarily a problem. In my view, that is. The two ships are different, so of course things are set out differently.

The builder's plate is safe now. If and when the QE2 ever makes it into a "safe" port in the future, then it can be returned. I'd rather see it safe on the wrong ship than in danger on the right ship.

There is a real risk that the QE2 will be scrapped or suffer a self immolation in the way that 552 did. She is currently a huge liability for Nakeel.

Oh, and it makes sense that the QE is hogging the headlines at the moment. She is new, and newsworthy. I have little doubt that if any real news of QE2 were to occur, then her picture would be on the front page of every newpaper in the county. Especially if she were to come back to the UK.

Don't hate QE simply because she isn't QE2. She never will be, and nor will anything else. QE2 is a ship the like of which we will never see again.

I think the small copies of the paintings on the First Class Stairwell are pretty awful however. Let's have the real thing, or nothing.

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #124 on: Oct 28, 2010, 10:13 AM »
QE2 on Queen Elizabeth

The following items on board Queen Elizabeth are either from QE2 herself or pay tribute to QE2:

  • Silver Model from Midships Lobby: in the entrance to the Yacht Club, Deck 10.
  • Builder’s Plaque: starboard corridor leading to Commodore Club, Deck 10.
  • Bell: starboard corridor leading to Commodore Club, Deck 10.
  • Signals Flags: inside Yacht Club (Deck 10) around the forward part of the dome. The message reads: ‘Queen Elizabeth 2. A Triumph of a Great Tradition. 1969 – 2008’.
  • Giclee on Canvas: 'QE2 escorts the NZ Endeavour in Southampton’, by Stephen Munday. Inside Yacht Club, Deck 10.
  • Large Photograph: framed photograph of QE2’s first arrival in Southampton on 2 January 1969. Port corridor leading to Yacht Club, Deck 10.
  • Masters: list of all QE2 Captains. Starboard corridor leading to Yacht Club, Deck 10.
  • Porthole Prints: seven QE2 paintings by Robert Lloyd featured in decorative portholes. Commodore Club, Deck 10.
  • Mural: special commission. ‘Three Queens in Southampton’ (22 April 2008) by Robert Lloyd on the portside of Commodore Club, Deck 10.
  • Painting: special commission from Gordon Bauwens. Depicting QE2’s final call to the Clyde. Staircase A, Deck 10.
  • Construction Photographs: two in Commodore Club (behind the bar), Deck 10; four in Apple Store, Deck 1.
  • Print: ‘QE2 in Liverpool’, by Edward Walker. Admiral’s Lounge, Deck 10.
  • Print: ‘QE2 in Liverpool’, by Edward Walker. Staircase A between Deck 4 and Deck 5.
  • Giclee on Canvas: ‘QE2 departing Sydney’ by Lisa Maree Williams. Staircase A, Deck 1
  • Bust of HM The Queen: Queens Room aft, Deck 2
  • Royal Portrait: reproduction of ‘HRH Princess Elizabeth and HRH Prince Philip’ from QE2 Boat Deck D Stairway and Queen Elizabeth. Queens Room, Deck 2.
  • Royal Portrait: reproduction of ‘HM Queen Elizabeth’ from QE2 Boat Deck D Stairway and Caronia. Queens Room, Deck 2.
  • Queen Mary Standard: Queens Room forward, Deck 2. When room could not be found for this in the Queens Room it was to be hung on Staircase A.
  • Royal Visits: several commemorative menus used on board QE2 and various photographs of Royal Visits to QE2 were framed and displayed in two cases opposite the Book Shop, Deck 2.
  • Mauretania Photographs: these photographs used to hang in the Mauretania Restaurant on board QE2 (1987 – 1994) and were reframed and hung around Queen Elizabeth in various locations: staircase A, Deck 6; Commodore Club; Admiral’s Lounge and Royal Court Theatre Corridors, Deck 1
   
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Offline Mauretania1907

Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #125 on: Oct 29, 2010, 07:51 AM »
O ho, it seems the new Queen Lizzie is to be haunted by her illustrious predecessor. ;D (and I might be tempted to take a wee trip to see the silver model and the Mauretania Photos. But I bet i'll burst into tears when I see the builder's plate) :'(
And lets hope we see the real QE2 returned, or do we get her back in bits? :-X

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #126 on: Oct 29, 2010, 09:21 AM »
O ho, it seems the new Queen Lizzie is to be haunted by her illustrious predecessor. ;D (and I might be tempted to take a wee trip to see the silver model and the Mauretania Photos. But I bet i'll burst into tears when I see the builder's plate) :'(
And lets hope we see the real QE2 returned, or do we get her back in bits? :-X

Totally, absolutely and wholeheartedly - YES!
I agree with you, and Thank You, Mauritania1907!
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #127 on: Oct 30, 2010, 08:33 PM »
Here is the bell outside the Commodore Club and the ship in the Yacht Club there are more of my pictures here http://www.famouslinersonline.com/forum/index.php?topic=2771.0 and I am adding more all the time

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #128 on: Nov 07, 2010, 11:06 AM »
I've read that theres loads of QE2 memorabilia on board the new QE. I'm glad Cunard has done this.

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #129 on: Nov 14, 2010, 08:04 PM »

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #130 on: Apr 13, 2011, 10:24 PM »
Today on MV Queen Elizabeth -
QE2's bell was looking and sounding beautiful.
The bust of HRH Queen Elizabeth II has been re-gilded beautifully and is looking superb.
Asprey's  silver model of QE2 is gleamimg,
and her Builder's plate has been polished.
I would guess that her call sign GBTT was also being well used as QE 'blew' into the 'Port of Rome (Civitivecchia).
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #131 on: Apr 29, 2011, 12:46 AM »
Images of QE2's Builders' Plate, her Bell, the bust of HRH Queen Elizabeth ll, and the Asprey model of QE2 in silver
All these were on board Queen Elizabth (2010) on 13.4.2011

https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/sets/72157626602699262/

PS plesase let me know if these can't be seen properly and my apologies  for the quality of the images
Rosie
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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #132 on: Jun 14, 2011, 05:37 AM »
As reported on Cunardcritic.com, the Laconia Cup, which commemorates the first actual World Cruise of a Cunarder in 1922-1923, has made its way onboard the Victoria.   :( http://cunardcritic.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=6352  I wonder if it is on loan like the other artifacts that are on Elizabeth.



My grandfather emigrated to the United States on the Laconia in 1927 so we thought that was pretty cool to see that commemorative cup onboard QE2.  The Laconia was torpedoed and sunk in WWII with Italian POW's onboard, who were rescued by the U-Boats, but later bombed by American bombers in what has become known as the Laconia Incident.
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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #133 on: Aug 03, 2011, 02:55 PM »
Queen Elizabeth was looking good in Southampton yesterday.

Regarding the pennants in her Yacht Club - although there was hardly enough time to look more thoroughly,
it seems that the importance of their message may not be easily recognised.
Please flagship - have I missed something?!
Or, for example, do you think it could be helpful to have an easily spotted 'translation' framed on one of the bulkheads?

It was lovely to find pictures of QE2 on board - 'think she'd be very pleased!
Rosie.
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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #134 on: Aug 03, 2011, 04:21 PM »
Did you take any photos Rosie?
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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #135 on: Aug 03, 2011, 06:15 PM »
Did you take any photos Rosie?

Unfortunately, no - Rob.
There was half an hour less time than we'd anticipated, so no time for friends or photos.
However I'll be back on board before long and will 'try to do better next time'.
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« Reply #136 on: Oct 28, 2011, 06:12 PM »
just returned from a short voyage on QE.  I've a number of images of the QE2 artefacts and references and will subsequently post accordingly.  But what has prompted me to write and post now is with regard to the beautiful Asprey model of QE2.  This has pride of place on its own plinth at the entrance to the Yacht Club.  It does look magnificent... But only during the day!  In the evening the Yacht Club doubles as the disco and the QE2 shrine then also assumes an alter-ego that of drinks shelf, coat rack and handbag depository.

it is understandable why this happens but does not excuse the sacrilege.  With the inevitable influx of pre-wedding :-( shenanigans the likelihood of damage is very much a possibility.

It would be far better if this piece of QE2 and Cunard history is moved.  I would suggest at the earliest opportunity to the Commodore Club, which is an excellent space and already holds a number of QE2 references.

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #137 on: Nov 01, 2011, 08:58 PM »
Does anyone know what happened to the original bronze bust of HM The Queen?  The one aboard QE appears to be a fibreglass/resin replica :o

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #138 on: Nov 01, 2011, 10:48 PM »
Does anyone know what happened to the original bronze bust of HM The Queen?  The one aboard QE appears to be a fibreglass/resin replica :o

Hi CAP - it was really tempting to tap it.
However second thoughts got in the way.
The paranoia associated with the ever-present cctv stuff was profound, and the fear of an 'arrest' won!
Maybe you were more courageous?!

It would be understandable if the original had needed to be stored away from the sea air;
I wonder too, how how bronze behaves in an hot airless environment.
If it's been stowed by experts for safekeeping then,
although it's sad, it has to be in the statue's best interest.
Rosie

Firstly Rob's photograph

Queen's Bust in QE2's Queens Room by Rob Lightbody, on Flickr

then one I took on board Queen Elizabeth in April 2011


I'm sorry as it's not possible to make a direct comparison, even with them both enlarged on flickr

« Last Edit: Nov 02, 2011, 08:10 AM by Twynkle »
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

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Re: QE2 presence on the Cruising Queens
« Reply #139 on: Nov 22, 2011, 01:44 AM »
Regarding the pennants in her Yacht Club - although there was hardly enough time to look more thoroughly,
it seems that the importance of their message may not be easily recognised.

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