Author Topic: QE2's Clocks  (Read 6309 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online cunardqueen

QE2's Clocks
« on: Jan 13, 2010, 07:36 PM »
On the Final Atlantic :'( crossing during dinner it came up in conversation about the ships clocks. Our host that night admitted he actually had  a broken one in his ownership :o. All my charm and wit was wasted trying to find out how one might be obtained legally.

 Sadly it way annoying to see some of clocks had markings to indicate attempts to remove them had failed, the host did mention that all the spares had been used up and they are actually wired in which makes removing then dangerous. Not to mention in recent months the clocks had been firmly screwed onto the walls.

Personally l found the idea to remove actual fittings from QE2 was dispicable. Its one thing to take a side plate, but to remove the fixings is to remove part of her soul.
** OLD DEAD LINK REMOVED **img35/6207/qe2lend2013.jpg[/img]  
« Last Edit: Feb 01, 2010, 07:37 PM by Rob Lightbody »
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Offline highlander0108

Clock
« Reply #1 on: Jan 13, 2010, 10:37 PM »
On the Final Atlantic :'( crossing during dinner it came up in conversation about the ships clocks. Our host that night admitted he actually had  a broken one in his ownership :o. All my charm and wit was wasted trying to find out how one might be obtained legally.

 Sadly it way annoying to see some of clocks had markings to indicate attempts to remove them had failed, the host did mention that all the spares had been used up and they are actually wired in which makes removing then dangerous. Not to mention in recent months the clocks had been firmly screwed onto the walls.

Personally l found the idea to remove actual fittings from QE2 was dispicable. Its one thing to take a side plate, but to remove the fixings is to remove part of her soul.
 

We were chatting last night about this clock and although we joked about it, I can't believe someone actually tried to unbolt it..  I think they should sell them in the gift shops onboard.  I probably could make one for myself though using an off the shelf battery operated clock as a base.
« Last Edit: Jan 13, 2010, 11:20 PM by Isabelle Prondzynski »
"There will never be another one like her" QE2's last Master Ian McNaught
My Blog:  http://qe2-prideoftheclyde.blogspot.com/

richc1977

  • Guest
Clock
« Reply #2 on: Jan 13, 2010, 11:07 PM »
Those clocks were also on A Stairway, but did anyone venture down to 5 deck on G-Stairway?

A rather modern digital clock (reminds me of those LED display things in banks, post offices and doctors surgeries).

I attach a screendump from my website virtual tour as I can't find the original for now.  And yes the time is 05:49am.  I must have been mad as I'd already been up over an hour taking pictures by that point!

Maybe the original was taken?  Or does anyone know that it has been there for a while?

Online cunardqueen

Clock
« Reply #3 on: Jan 14, 2010, 05:42 PM »
I can only imagine those LED clocks were put in place to cover up the space left behind when a clock was stolen or damaged.
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Online Rob Lightbody

  • Administrator
  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 11028
  • Total likes: 11378
  • Helping to Keep The Legend Alive
    • Rob Lightbody dot com
Clock
« Reply #4 on: Jan 14, 2010, 06:01 PM »
On QM1 & QE1, the clocks were all connected to a central control, so they could all be advanced/retarted at the same time.  Did QE2 have this too, originally?  She had those mechanical-digital clocks originally, didn't she?
Passionate about QE2's service life for 37 years and creator of this website.  Worked in IT for 27 years and created my personal QE2 website in 1994.

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Clock
« Reply #5 on: Jan 14, 2010, 09:40 PM »
A rather modern digital clock (reminds me of those LED display things in banks, post offices and doctors surgeries).
Maybe the original was taken?  Or does anyone know that it has been there for a while?

I never saw one of the round QE2 clocks at a lift in this sort of position. I wonder whether this was one of the original digital clocks mentioned by Rob?

On QM1 & QE1, the clocks were all connected to a central control, so they could all be advanced/retarded at the same time.  Did QE2 have this too, originally?

That might be the answer to my unspoken question! Even though I was always a night owl on QE2, wandering round the ship when most others were well tucked up in bed, never once did I see anyone doing the rounds to change the clocks to the next day's ship time. If the clocks were all wired up, as Myles writes here, then presumably they could be reset in this way...

Hopefully, we shall find out!

Online cunardqueen

Clock
« Reply #6 on: Jan 14, 2010, 09:40 PM »
I cant imagine in this day and age a person going round changing the clocks at every time change. Surely this would have been done automatically, Besides has anyone ever noticed the clocks changing in the small hours. In my early days the clocks were advanced/retarded at 4am

One such crossing with an afternoon arrival in Southampton the clock were advanced 2 hours at l think 1pm, l do recall feeling so cheated out of the time.
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Offline Louis De Sousa

  • QE2 Crew member
  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 3840
  • Total likes: 3772
  • QE2 The Greatest Ship Ever
Clock
« Reply #7 on: Jan 14, 2010, 09:51 PM »

The clocks are central controled.

Louis

Online Rob Lightbody

  • Administrator
  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 11028
  • Total likes: 11378
  • Helping to Keep The Legend Alive
    • Rob Lightbody dot com
Clock
« Reply #8 on: Jan 14, 2010, 09:54 PM »
The clocks are central controled.
Louis
So I presume that means that all the stolen QE2 clocks in people's homes will not operate?
Passionate about QE2's service life for 37 years and creator of this website.  Worked in IT for 27 years and created my personal QE2 website in 1994.

Online cunardqueen

Clock
« Reply #9 on: Jan 15, 2010, 08:51 PM »
NOT that lm an expert in that matter, But surely the insides could be removed and one of those modern battery operated systems could be inserted.
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Offline Jem

Clock
« Reply #10 on: Jan 15, 2010, 11:32 PM »
As a horologist,(retired due to ill health) in factorys, bus/train stations and I assume ships. There was a Master clock and attached to this mechinisum all the other clocks were connected known as Slaves. The Master clock governed the accuracy of all the Slaves. By adjusting the Master clocks time all the others would alter at the same time. Which is why you'd never see anyone manually adjusting the others. The Slaves could operate on there own provided they had a power source but their accuracy could not be governed.

I have an old Ships Bulkhead Clock I bought at auction a number of years ago, which I repaired, and I often find myself looking at it and thinking 'Where have you travelled in your 100 years?'

Offline Jem

Clock
« Reply #11 on: Jan 15, 2010, 11:38 PM »
NOT that lm an expert in that matter, But surely the insides could be removed and one of those modern battery operated systems could be inserted.
Yes that is possible, it's called retro-fitting. I'm from the old 'Horology School' once and old clock has lost it's original machinical mechinsm and been fitted with a Quartz govement, it's lost it's soul.

Online Rob Lightbody

  • Administrator
  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 11028
  • Total likes: 11378
  • Helping to Keep The Legend Alive
    • Rob Lightbody dot com
Clock
« Reply #12 on: Jan 19, 2010, 08:59 PM »
One of the original mechanical-digital clocks can be seen in Bob's photo here -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/33120597@N03/3451256117/

(you can zoom in if you log in - its 9:52!)
« Last Edit: Jan 19, 2010, 10:38 PM by Isabelle Prondzynski »
Passionate about QE2's service life for 37 years and creator of this website.  Worked in IT for 27 years and created my personal QE2 website in 1994.

Offline Chris Frame

Clock
« Reply #13 on: Jan 20, 2010, 10:18 AM »
On the Final Atlantic :'( crossing during dinner it came up in conversation about the ships clocks. Our host that night admitted he actually had  a broken one in his ownership :o. All my charm and wit was wasted trying to find out how one might be obtained legally.

 Sadly it way annoying to see some of clocks had markings to indicate attempts to remove them had failed, the host did mention that all the spares had been used up and they are actually wired in which makes removing then dangerous. Not to mention in recent months the clocks had been firmly screwed onto the walls.

Personally l found the idea to remove actual fittings from QE2 was dispicable. Its one thing to take a side plate, but to remove the fixings is to remove part of her soul.
** OLD DEAD LINK REMOVED **img35/6207/qe2lend2013.jpg[/img]   

These clocks in your photograph were added during "Project Lifestyle" - you can clearly see the tri-colour speed stripe under the lettering... fantastic shot!

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #14 on: Feb 01, 2010, 11:41 PM »
And from another topic - there's an image of the dot-matrix clock on Deck 4,  E Stairway, beside the lift doors.
Is this clock a recent addition?
Reply No. 3
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,575.msg6355.html#msg6355
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

Offline highlander0108

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #15 on: Feb 02, 2010, 01:52 AM »
And from another topic - there's an image of the dot-matrix clock on Deck 4,  E Stairway, beside the lift doors.
Is this clock a recent addition?
Reply No. 3
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,575.msg6355.html#msg6355


Notice the time?  Returning from the Lido with a little snack!  ;D
"There will never be another one like her" QE2's last Master Ian McNaught
My Blog:  http://qe2-prideoftheclyde.blogspot.com/

Online cunardqueen

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #16 on: Feb 02, 2010, 08:24 AM »
Quote
Notice the time?  Returning from the Lido with a little snack! 

And here was me thinking it was for Ryan, I might have known better ;) did he do the washing up.....  :)
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #17 on: Feb 02, 2010, 09:16 AM »
Speaking of clocks...

Was anyone else aboard when ship's time was kept during a port day?

We had sailed to the east - the port was an hour ahead.
It all became rather confusing...
Then we set off in a westerly direction... :)
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

Online cunardqueen

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #18 on: Feb 02, 2010, 03:04 PM »
I wonder if anyone was onhere that crossed the International Date line, that must have been really confussing

From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #19 on: Feb 02, 2010, 03:29 PM »
Quote
I wonder if anyone was onhere that crossed the International Date line, that must have been really confussing
About crossing the Equator...
If you want to join in - It's here Myles!
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,151.0.html
« Last Edit: Feb 11, 2010, 12:08 PM by Isabelle Prondzynski »
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

Online Bob C.

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #20 on: Feb 02, 2010, 06:41 PM »
I went through my '69 and '70's photos last night and found there are clocks in many of them.  I think I will crop group and post a "QE2 clock collection" on FLICKR.  Just need to find some time to do it.

Offline Imonlygoingforone

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #21 on: Feb 11, 2010, 09:49 AM »
The 'logo' clocks were controlled by the 'master' clock, which was in an electrical locker on the Bridge.

An interesting technique was used, in which a bent paper clip had to be pushed into a hole to allow the clock to be set. (true!)

Online cunardqueen

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #22 on: Feb 11, 2010, 10:02 AM »
Quote
I went through my '69 and '70's photos last night and found there are clocks in many of them.  I think I will crop group and post a "QE2 clock collection" on FLICKR.  Just need to find some time to do it.

Guess you can do this when you have time on your hands........ :D
(note to moderator, please feel free to delete this very feeble attempt at a joke)
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #23 on: Feb 11, 2010, 10:50 AM »
The 'logo' clocks were controlled by the 'master' clock, which was in an electrical locker on the Bridge.

An interesting technique was used, in which a bent paper clip had to be pushed into a hole to allow the clock to be set. (true!)

Hello!

Thinking about Time - with hours going forwards, backwards etc,
ship's time and shore time, all in connection with hours on and off Watch
 - setting alarm-clocks, mealtimes etc,

Then about  getting out of 'sync', both practically and physically
Was there a 'routine' or something else  that was necessary,
to help people to adjust to this and these?
Or - was  it just Time itself?!

Rosie.






« Last Edit: Feb 11, 2010, 11:57 AM by Twynkle »
QE2 had been waiting alongside in Dubai for nearly 12 years.  Please restore her Lifeboats and Tenders to where they truly belong - she looks naked without them - please spare her this ignominy.

Online Bob C.

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #24 on: Feb 11, 2010, 05:49 PM »
Guess you can do this when you have time on your hands........ :D
(note to moderator, please feel free to delete this very feeble attempt at a joke)

(rimshot...)

Rob, help!!!  Please!!! 

Offline Jem

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #25 on: Feb 11, 2010, 08:27 PM »
Guess you can do this when you have time on your hands........ :D
(note to moderator, please feel free to delete this very feeble attempt at a joke)

'Just a Minute Myles. Your really Winding us up here with that joke. It's about Time this sort of thing stopped. I think you need to Toc to someone about it. I feel like a coiled Spring ready to Strike. I think it's about Time I stop now, I feel over Wound as it is!' ;D ;D
(You would not believe the number of clock related ones I've heard over the years while in the trade)

Online cunardqueen

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #26 on: Feb 11, 2010, 09:35 PM »
Quote
You would not believe the number of clock related ones I've heard over the years while in the trade
Was this a second hand post then.... :P Ok no more from me on this, we will have the moderators giving us a ticking off
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Online Rob Lightbody

  • Administrator
  • Queens Grill Diner
  • *****
  • Posts: 11028
  • Total likes: 11378
  • Helping to Keep The Legend Alive
    • Rob Lightbody dot com
Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #27 on: Jun 21, 2010, 09:27 PM »
I've just found the answer to my question...

QE2 originally had 240 clocks, all controlled by a "GENT of LEICESTER" Master Clock System.  Gent also supplied cabin/service call systems and fire alarm points for QE2 and her 2 predecessors.
Passionate about QE2's service life for 37 years and creator of this website.  Worked in IT for 27 years and created my personal QE2 website in 1994.

Offline Jem

Re: QE2's Clocks
« Reply #28 on: Jun 22, 2010, 03:42 AM »
Thanks for that information Rob. Hope you all have a great forum get together at the weekend. :)

 

QE2 Library photos 1980s of clocks

Started by HowieBoard Miscellaneous QE2

Replies: 1
Views: 1185
Cunard Building 25th Broadway Clocks

Started by HowieBoard Cunard

Replies: 7
Views: 832