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Offline Jem

Re: Should A Replacement Be Made For The Royal Yacht?
« Reply #15 on: Jan 18, 2010, 10:36 PM »
I see the news today that the Queen is to charter the hebridean princess again at a cost of £300,000. and the passengers booked for that period had their cruise cancelled but have been awarded upgrades refunds etc.....its a real shame as surely they could have kept the yacht going for her regn as she loved it so much and obviously still does.....
I could not agree with you more! There is no respect anymore. PMs only last at the most around 10 years and their gone. The Queens first PM was Winston Churchill back in the 50's and our Queen is still their doing her job, I would not want it, never ever a day off.
Just so the politicians look good the the 'public' they take her yacht away, while they claim thousands for their own pockets. Not fair enough said...........

Offline Stowaway2k

Re: Should A Replacement Be Made For The Royal Yacht?
« Reply #16 on: Jan 19, 2010, 12:46 AM »
In 1968, when Britain was suffering through a time of economic hardships, the Queen and Prince Philip made a secret offer to the Prime Minister to give up the Yacht as a sign of the Royal Family's commitment to the nation's economy drive.  Prime Minister Harold Wilson declined the offer, which was kept confidential.

When the Royal Yacht was decomissioned in 1997, the Admiralty estimated that she had about seven years of useful life left in her.   Had she been allowed to continue to serve as the Royal Yacht for those seven years, she would then have been in service for fifty years, an extraordinarily long life for any vessel, especially for one so busy as Britannia.
Even so, at this point she would have been decomissioned about six years ago, not by cost-cutting headline hungry politicians, but by necessity.

There will probably never be another Royal Yacht for the British Royal Family.  Even though Prince Charles practically grew up on Britannia, he wouldn't dare ask Parliament to approve of a new one.  By the time William takes the throne, who knows if he would even be interested. 

The Royal Yachts were not simply private pleasure craft for the Royals, they were ships of the Royal Navy. They served an official function for the government of the United Kingdom. Would the Admiralty even want the responsibility of another Royal Yacht?  Besides the costs of building, operating and maintaining, there is also manning the Yacht, plus assigning an escort vessel for each deployment.

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Early 80s SF Visit with Queen Aboard
« Reply #17 on: Mar 27, 2010, 02:19 AM »
Hello folks

My wife and I were talking about her participation in Highland Dancing. She's a Scot and her Mum taught Highland Dancing here in San Jose CA.

She remembers dancing for Her Majesty and Prince Phillip on board a ship. Could it have been QEII? Our timeframe is 79-83. She and her Mum distinctly remember a headpat from Prince Phillip.

Could it have been Brittania? Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Early 80s SF Visit with Queen Aboard
« Reply #18 on: Mar 27, 2010, 03:37 PM »
From what i can find information wise , Her Maj was on a state vist so she was uing the Britannia.

Offline Stowaway2k

Re: Early 80s SF Visit with Queen Aboard
« Reply #19 on: Mar 27, 2010, 05:31 PM »
This would have been the 3rd or 4th of March, 1983, aboard HMY Britannia.

Chances are that First Lady Mrs. Reagan and possibly the President would have been present as well.


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Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #20 on: Mar 29, 2010, 06:50 PM »
WOW!!

Thank you very much for some great information! I had actually raised my view of the little woman when she may have been onboard QEII. I guess Britannia is no slouch lol.

Again, many thanks!

Jake

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Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #21 on: Mar 31, 2010, 09:56 AM »
Been some very big waves at Leith; I hope HMY Britannia is OK?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8596344.stm
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Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #22 on: Feb 27, 2011, 06:04 PM »
A Truly Depressing Royal Disappointment

I went to visit the Royal Yacht today and was absolutely GOBSMACKED to discover that they have built an entire new hideous structure on top of her, which totally ruins her lines.  Absolutely truly horrendous.  I had wondered what the roof was over her on Google Maps overhead view, now I know!

I already knew that she was located in the WORST POSSIBLE LOCATION ANYWHERE.  She is totally hidden behind a multi-story car park of a shopping Mall.  The aim appears to be to force you to pay to go on board, because you cannot otherwise see her properly, but even if you pay, you still don't get a good view of her overall.  A crying shame.  She would sell herself if she was somewhere visible.

The thing is, there are various other locations in the docks where she'd have looked totally magnificent.  Where she is now is just appalling.  I suspect her terrible location is the reason she has not been making a lot of money, which in turn is the reason they felt they had to 'extend' her facilities.

It had been on my list of things to do, to go and spend a full afternoon on board.  But I was so depressed at what I saw today, that I have taken it off my list.

If I find the time I am going to send the photo of her new appendage to the Queen!  I know she'd be very upset, as she dearly loved the beautiful royal yacht.

Images attached -
RYB1 - a View of Britannia, from the side. Admire the sleek lines and graceful elegance...
RYB2 - RYB2 - the only view you can get of Britannia from outdoors, an overall view of the location.
RYB3 - the new addon the top. Its quite permanent looking - tinted glass, metalwork, roof etc.
RYB4 - Another view of the addon.

Quote from: Official website
Traditionally, the Royal Deck would have been used by the Royal Family for cocktail parties and receptions, and would have been covered with an awning to protect guests from the sun.

Today, the historic appearance of the Royal Deck has been replicated with an awning style roof, the original teak deck, and glass walls to protect guests from the wind and rain.

The Royal Yacht Britannia Trust brought the Royal Deck back into use to help secure Britannia’s future so that others can enjoy visiting her in the years to come. The Trust is a wholly self-funding, not-for-profit, charitable organisation that does not receive any public sector revenue support.

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Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #23 on: Feb 27, 2011, 07:20 PM »
Thanks for this information Rob.
I was going to take the kids to see her in May but don`t know if I will bother now.
Has anyone got any comments on the appalling alterations to SS Sir Walter Scott that took place a couple of years ago.
You would not be permitted to do this to listed buildings!!
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Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #24 on: Feb 27, 2011, 07:47 PM »
When did they get permission to put an extra deck on the ship.  I visited Britannia in 2007 with my sister and brother-in-Law, and for all she was located in Lieth I was very pleased with my visit (and the Fudge) but so glad I visited when I did because this strange canopy was not added on.

The canopy could be some kind of conservation method but I doubt it.  Why they couldnt leave her as she was is beyond me.

Offline Sea Pigeon

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« Reply #25 on: Feb 27, 2011, 07:51 PM »
 :o That is hideous, what a shame, could they not just have placed a portacabin on the dockside, rather than putting it on Britannia's deck. I agree withe the comments about the SS Sir Walter Scott on Loch Katrine, they have ruined her looks as well.

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Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #26 on: Feb 27, 2011, 07:54 PM »
A canopy would be fine, and I can see what they were TRYING to do.  However by the time you add heating, air-conditioning, wind-proofness etc. etc. it becomes an EXTREMELY bulky structure.  It does not look like an awning or canopy to me.  Its a disaster. 

In my view, the ship needs moved to somewhere else.
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Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #27 on: Feb 28, 2011, 12:25 AM »
Unbelievable official vandalism. >:(

Anyway, I thought it was part of the agreement when they took her over that they could not alter her in any way? ???
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Offline cunardqueen

Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #28 on: Feb 28, 2011, 03:10 AM »
I visited the Royal Yacht a number of years ago in her early days of being open to the public, and she had been opened as is, you would have thought she was ready to sail the next day, onboard had been preserved and ok, you need to pinch yourself that this was the Queens yacht and perhaps the luxury you imagined wasnt there, the Royal bedrooms were pretty basic. The atmosphere however was still there.
 Having now seen the recent photos, what ever thoughts l had of wanting to revist her are completely out the window, the object planted on top, whatever it is, hasnt been thought through, and how on earth did someone give the ok to build it anyway?
 The location now seems as Rob says to be totally non inviting.
 I did recall being told by a tour guide onboard that they were planning to remove all the bridge equipment and put it in a shoreside display so more people could view it... :o
 Makes you wonder what the Queen thinks of it all.
 Sadly the Royal Yacht is in Edinburgh, with people of great wisdom and knowledge all around and they do this to her.......
 It does make you wonder about the dear old QE2 stuck out in Dubai...... :( :(   
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Offline Alex Tarry

Re: HMY Britannia (The Royal Yacht)
« Reply #29 on: Feb 28, 2011, 06:58 AM »
We first visited shortly after they opened her and was horrified they'd sliced open her hull so close to the waterline so we could view her engines, removed equipment so it could be more easily viewed shoreside and also that the trust which runs her were using her main accommodation deck for offices (there are 16 cabins there, originally used by visitors etc) which had necessitated removing walls, putting in new floors etc etc...

However on our most recent visit it was clear the condition of the fabric of the ship was now falling away and that she was also starting to fail commercially - no visitors etc...

Just compare this treatment to a Royal BUILDING, which would have listed status, high standards of preservation and conservation and you have the plight of historic ships in a nutshell...

She should always have resided in Portsmouth where the team which had cared for her were based and she could have had a relevant and respectful environment where people could view her...

Alex...

 

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