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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #15 on: Aug 28, 2009, 11:26 AM »
It's just another dilution of the cunard brand, never mind the use of the 'new' terminal in New York - one of my most enduring memory on QE2 was watching the grid streets of Manhattan pass as we ate a stress free breakfast in the morning of arrival in NY.

I've only done one trip on QM2 and whilst she doesn't look like the block of flats that most other cruise lines have she isn't a patch on QE2 - little or no spirit and too many people on board.


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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #16 on: Oct 17, 2009, 02:08 PM »
They should do the occasional faster one - "6 days or as quickly as we can manage" - might even manage it in 5 at a push like QE2 used to do weekly...
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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #17 on: Mar 19, 2010, 02:40 PM »
Wonderful spin here

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruises/item.aspx?type=blog&ak=83982.blog

No mention of the fact that for many, many decades the line maintained a 5 night crossing... as i understand it the increase to 6 was introduced to reduce wear & tear on the ageing QE2, then kept for the brand new QM2, and now they're going for 7 days - more on-board profits, less fuel costs.

I think its OK, though, as long as they keep some 'express' sailings which, after all, is what this crossing is all about.  There should be more than one per year. Allow QM2 and her fans to get up to speed and experience an entire day at her quoted 'service speed' of 28.5 knots, as for QE2, QM1 and QE1.

Some people still prefer to sail than fly.  Some people love the fact that the crossing was a race.

The 7 day crossing, of course, doesn't make QV/QE's 8 or 9 day crossings look so bad ...
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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #18 on: Mar 19, 2010, 03:23 PM »
Well, we could ask them to spend 48 hours going in a huge circle so that we can have the 7 night crossing with the whole thing done at full speed...

More seriously, I'd be less inclined to book a TA now.

In the article it says the the change has been made permanent because the 7 nighters are selling well, but with all due respect to Cunard that statement is a bit disingenuous seeing as nobody else offers a regular TA in competition, so people wanting to do a TA haven't really got much choice have they?
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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #19 on: Mar 19, 2010, 06:17 PM »
My first voyage was the classic 10 day round trip Atlantic crossing, with a day in New York. Back then In the golden days it was always a fast crossing and you were aware with the atmosphere that you were really going somewhere. Out on the open decks the speed was always there, but the bit under the bridge was always closed due to high winds.
 l always found they passed just a bit to quickl, But then again it was always possible to have  a day in New York and only use 10 or so days out of the holidays.
 On the recent farewell crossings it did stike me just how slow we appeared to be going at compared to the old days granted it was a day longer than the olden days. Now with the introduction of a week long crossing personally l see no need to book a transatlantic ever again. A week to cross the North Atlantic ???.
 The new breed of Cunard passenger will probably accept this as the norm and be happy with it, at the same time soaking up the onboard experience over  a week and will probably see this as a cruise.
It would be interesting to find out if by extending to 7 days the extra revenue gained would be more than slotting an extra crossing and reducing them back to 6 days.   
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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #20 on: Mar 20, 2010, 03:28 AM »
Back in 1996 on my first transatlantic, it was 5 days.  I was like a gallop across the ocean... the next time in 2001 it was of course 6 days and much more enjoyable.  I won't mind the 7 days...there are times I just want to get on the ship and don't care where it is going.... I quite like sea days..... if you feel you want to go across the ocean faster, then I guess you'll have to get on an airplane and endure the ride !!!  Yuck !!!

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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #22 on: Mar 20, 2010, 07:08 AM »
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I think its OK, though, as long as they keep some 'express' sailings which, after all, is what this crossing is all about.  There should be more than one per year. Allow QM2 and her fans to get up to speed and experience an entire day at her quoted 'service speed' of 28.5 knots, as for QE2, QM1 and QE1.

I agree that some cutbacks have to be made in the current economic climate.

But, I'd agree with Rob that, if marketed properly, some 'express' sailings, at a higher fare, could really do well with those that wish to travel to Europe without the hassle of airport security (the US Transportation Security Administration and their ilk) and the general lack of service and stress-creating atmosphere that air travel is today.

(Also, I could see a tie-in with the business relocation/expat market as well... take the QM2 to Europe, and we'll ship your household goods so you don't have to worry about them!)

Play on the advantages of peace of mind (see the popular "United Breaks Guitars" videos for an example of airline customer service gone wrong), luggage safety/security, stress reduction, and value (e.g., quality food included, etc.), and I'd think you could have a formula that would work if the marketing was done right.

(One idea would be to use some of the things that aggravate air passengers, i.e., liquid/gel size limits.)
 
Thoughts?

« Last Edit: Mar 20, 2010, 08:07 AM by Douglas Carmichael »

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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #23 on: Mar 21, 2010, 04:32 PM »
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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #24 on: Mar 22, 2010, 08:29 AM »
I wouldnt care if QMary die grosse took 8 or even TEN days, be she ever so slow, she would still be ten thousand times better than an aeroplane. (of course Qe2 could do a big circle around the atlantic and be a Million times better.)

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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #25 on: Mar 22, 2010, 01:23 PM »
They announced the 7 day crossings during our return Transatlantic last June but at the time they were saying that it would only be 7 days on the Eastbound Crossing. The reason was given that customer surveys carried out had indicated that the Eastbound guests felt a little short changed by losing the hour on most nights so they were giving them an additional night at no extra cost.

The running costs of the ship would also decrease due to reduced speeds.

At that time the Cunard inferred that the 6 night Westbound would remain.

As long as she is still sailing I cant say that I mind.

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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #26 on: Mar 23, 2010, 02:28 AM »
This article on the Beyond Ships site goes into detail on the powerplant operations of QM2, the burn rate of fuel, and when the more expensive to run gas turbines are needed.  The eastbound crossings loose an hour a day, thus require a faster crossing speed, which necessitates the use of at least one of the gas turbines. http://beyondships.com/QM2-art-Watling.html

Unfortunately, reading between the lines, QM2 does not have the reserve of power/redundancy of equipment that QE2 was so masterfully fitted with back in 1987.
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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #27 on: Mar 23, 2010, 06:13 PM »
While we were in the QM2 a couple of weeks ago, at one of the gatererings the cruise booking assistants announced that the TA crossings were going to be over 7 days in the future, their reasoning was you get an extra day to enjoy the luxury of the QM2, or is it reason th save fuel and therefore costs

I would have loved my eight trans-Atalntic crossings from 1969-1979 to have been 7 days instead of 5.  I remember standing out on deck multiple times wishing for more time onboard. 

The move is a logical one though.  The time at sea is what's popular today, not the Blue Ribband.  Couple that with water resistance (and therefore power requirements) rising as the square of the velocity and slower speeds definitely makes more economical sense - to a point.     Not to worry, there are lots of situations where that 31 kt design speed will come in handy.

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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #28 on: Mar 27, 2010, 08:10 PM »
I am going aboard the QM2 next November 1st for a 7 day Eastbound transatlantic crossing then staying aboard the QM2 for both the November 8th 2 night cruise to Cherbourg and then the November 10th Westbound transatlantic crossing which then adds up to 15 nights aboard the QM2.I must admit that I really do enjoy the QM2 so much that I really do look forward to the 7 night Eastbound crossing next November   ;D though the Westbound crossing next November willl only be 6 nights   :'(     Regards,Jerry

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Re: Transatlantic in 7 days
« Reply #29 on: Mar 27, 2010, 08:18 PM »
Maybe could it be that the reasons for the QM2's 7 night Eastbound and Westbound crossings starting next year could be for fuel economy and that passengers like me that enjoy the ship a lot that we don't mind and want the extra night aboard the QM2?   :)    Regards,Jerry
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