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Offline Louis De Sousa

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #20 on: Dec 29, 2009, 11:41 PM »

Isabelle nice to see my Bombay Sapphire Gin in the photo lol.  ;D

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #21 on: Dec 29, 2009, 11:43 PM »
Oh dear!

Well, they do say that the bigger the typeface.... ;D




A bit off topic, but I found a similar error in the local museum in Fort William this summer which, when I pointed it out, the curators agreed was an error and must have been there for many years.  It's a brass plaque on an exhibit and refers to Queen Alexander....
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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #22 on: Jan 12, 2010, 09:39 PM »


https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/3095711841/

A really important door

At least, for us, it was very important, as it gave us level access to the Britannia Restaurant via Caronia -- which made life a lot easier!

QE2 was conceived right from the start in such a way as to have as few obstacles for wheelchair users as possible -- and wherever there were steps and stairs, there was (almost) always another way of getting to the same place without having to use them. And we noticed too that one of the disabled WCs was opposite this very door.

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Yes this door was used for the wheelchair passengers to get to the Caronia and Britannia Restaurants. It's also used in case of an emergency when the entrance to the Caronia has its fire doors closed. There's a similar door on the Portside too.

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #23 on: Jan 13, 2010, 10:38 PM »

Thank you, Isabelle.

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #24 on: Jan 15, 2010, 01:18 PM »
The Sprinkler System



If you look at the photo itself, Louis has marked the sprinkler nozzle, just in front of the two ceiling lights :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/2695657679/

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QE2 is fitted with a fully automatic sprinkler system. The ship is divided into 65 sections, each controlled by a Sprinkler Control Valve. In the event of a sprinkler head breaking, the water pressure in the line will drop, causing an alarm to be sounded in the Safety Control Room.

SPRINKLER CONTROL STATIONS MUST BE KEPT CLEAR OF ALL OBSTRUCTIONS

Raul Lucas, the Maitre d' of the Britannia Grill in September 2008, said he took great care never to do any flambé work right underneath a sprinkler!

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #25 on: Jan 15, 2010, 08:46 PM »
All the cabins had the little sprinkler thing in the ceiling,  But just how hot would it have to be before they went off, and if one went off in the cabin would the rest of the ones in the same area go off as well? Just wondering you understand.
 And while on the subject the Baked Alaska parade in Mauretania it was always joked that the fire alarms were turned off, or were they turned to Baked Alaska setting ;)??
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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #26 on: Jan 15, 2010, 08:58 PM »
And while on the subject the Baked Alaska parade in Mauretania it was always joked that the fire alarms were turned off, or were they turned to Baked Alaska setting ;)??

Myles, you must be right! Here they are, standing right under the sprinkler in the Caronia Restaurant :



You might want to look at the large version perhaps :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/3801299241/sizes/l

One would have to hope that there would never be a fire in the restaurants during Baked Alaska show time!

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #27 on: Jan 15, 2010, 10:35 PM »
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All the cabins had the little sprinkler thing in the ceiling,  But just how hot would it have to be before they went off, and if one went off in the cabin would the rest of the ones in the same area go off as well? Just wondering you understand.

Each cabin activates independently.

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And while on the subject the Baked Alaska parade in Mauretania it was always joked that the fire alarms were turned off, or were they turned to Baked Alaska setting ??

The fire alarms are always on.

Each Sprinkler System around the ship is color code,the bulb breaks as a result of the thermal expansion of the liquid inside the bulb.The time it takes before a bulb breaks is dependent on the temperature.

Following is the colors with the temperatures before the bulb breaks.

Uncolored or Black Orange (135°F) or Red (155°F)-- 100°F / 38°
White Yellow (175°F) or Green (200°F) --150°F / 66°C
Blue Blue-- 225°F / 107°C
Red Purple-- 300°F / 149°C
Green Black-- 375°F / 191°C
Orange Black-- 475°F / 246 °C

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #28 on: Jan 15, 2010, 11:27 PM »
38°C doesn't look very high - what sort of area would a sprinkler with a setting like that be fitted in?  Would it be somewhere like the corridors?
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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #29 on: Jan 16, 2010, 09:51 AM »
And for those of us in steerage one of our waiter, just as the flames went out..It was when he introduced himself as Randy, l really didnt know where to look.
 The sprinklers l was always wary of, granted they were most unusual things to look at, and perhaps get close to for further examination, but the thought was always there, "what if...."
 Now about the smoke alarms... How sensitive were they, you would have thought the smoke from the sparklers would have set them off.

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #30 on: Jan 16, 2010, 10:02 AM »

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Now about the smoke alarms... How sensitive were they, you would have thought the smoke from the sparklers would have set them off.

The smoke alarms (better known as smoke detectors) are sensitive and yes it would sound the alarm in the Control Room,when the alarms sounds they know from which room/cabins its from. The sparklers are not hot enough to set the Sprinkler Systems off.

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #31 on: Jul 03, 2010, 11:06 PM »
Thank you for enjoying the nooks and crannies! I too am enjoying looking at all these again, and discovering new angles to some of the photos I took. This is one of those -- I had never noticed this detail :

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Louis writes, about the small yellow lamp-looking item (if you open the photo in Flickr, he has marked the exact item he is writing about) :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/3758660203/


I hate to resurect an old thread but the pedant in me can't let this go :)

That is not an EPIRB. That is the smoke and light float for the man overboard lifebuoy which is housed in the box like structure to the left of it.

You can see a rope connected to the smoke float. If somebody raises a man overboard alarm the officer on watch will run out to the bridge wing and pull a wooden pin which you cannot see in the picture. This allows the lifebuoy to roll out of the box (see the slope in its bottom?) and its weight and momentum will pull the smoke float after it.

As it detatches from the bracket it breaks a seal which starts the smoke. On hitting the sea a circuit is made with a battery and lamp starting the light to flash. This makes a very effective mark to return to to rescue the poor soul who has fell out of the boat. Top tip - stay inboard! :)

I once had one of these go off in my face, I looked like an umpah-lumpah for a week!

I think we used these http://www.pwss.com/ProductSpec.aspx?ProductId=16&CatId=5

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #32 on: Jul 04, 2010, 01:48 AM »
I hate to resurect an old thread but the pedant in me can't let this go :)

Thank you for the information, Paul. This sounds like a highly useful piece of equipment. I know there have been men (and presumably women) overboard -- it may not always have been possible to use this item.

In this Forum, we relish working on old threads, and I am sure that the pedant in you will help us to understand even more about many things we have been discussing! Looking forward to hearing more from you.

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #33 on: Jul 04, 2010, 01:38 PM »
Paul,

Thank you for popping in that photo of the steps up from the port Boat Deck - that single window to the right is the 3rd Officers cabin that my wife and I occupied for 17 days (there is another 3rd officers cabin, roughly same position, on the Stbd side as well -I'm not sure where the 3rd 3rd Officer's cabin was). Ian McNaught told our young fella to go buzz off down to a little dog box on Five Deck while we used his house.

I just had to virtually step out the door with a book and into a deck chair - nice and handy.

Your timing is pretty good as well - just checked the date, and it's exactly 2 years and 3 days since we unpacked in there.

Cheers

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #34 on: Jul 04, 2010, 05:52 PM »
I spent some time in that cabin too. Most of the Navigator's lived on the Stbd side behind the Wardroom bar in what was known as 'Navigators' Alleyway' (we weren't big on imagination!). On the Port side, there was one Navigator's cabin, the Crew Chief Steward's cabin and the Crew Purser's cabin (I may have that one wrong).

During my time as Chief Officer I had both those cabins knocked into one and it became mine. I believe they were later turned into passenger cabins, but that must have been after I left Cunard in 2005.
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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #35 on: Feb 26, 2011, 10:25 PM »
I have a picture of a QE2 fire door -- it was situated on Quarterdeck, just outside the Caronia Restaurant :



https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/2976185276/

I cannot easily work out the mechanism for closing / opening this door, and have never seen it shut either (probably luckily so!).

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #36 on: Feb 26, 2011, 11:02 PM »
Isabelle theses doors are rolling doors to shut the doors you just need to switch the magnet off to roll the doors back up you use the handle insert in the hole and turn it anticlockwide.

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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #37 on: Mar 03, 2011, 08:11 PM »
loving these facts!!!!

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« Reply #38 on: Mar 03, 2011, 08:20 PM »
loving these facts!!!!

Thank you for that, R80OOP. I enjoy working out the significance of the many pictures I have taken over time, and Louis is wonderful with his memories of all these places.  :D

Here is another :



https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/2929595139/

I love the way it says "For Emergency Use Only"...
Presumably the telephone is inside the yellow box -- I should have checked!

There was another emergency telephone in the Lido, to be used in case of an environmental catastrophe.

I wonder whether either of these were ever used?
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Re: QE2 nooks and crannies
« Reply #39 on: Aug 07, 2011, 08:43 PM »
Louis (Blue Bombay) is currently doing a tour of some of our more obsessive detailed Flickr photos and adding comments coming from his detailed knowledge of the ship and his years of life on board. I shall add the pictures and his comments here, bit by bit, and perhaps others who have more comments or questions, may want to join in! If you have similar pictures to offer for comment by Louis, you may want to do that as well. Thank you, Louis -- I love this sort of information!   :D

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Do you recognise the place? Where is it? I have a fair idea, as I was grinning at myself taking it -- it was the sort of thing you only photograph if you know you are never likely to have the chance again...

Louis writes :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/3110867911/

I would say starboard side of the galley towards the restaurant.