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andrew

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Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« on: Oct 17, 2009, 04:07 PM »
Hello fellow QE2 fans!

For many many years I was fascinated by the great transatlantic liners and in particular what seemed at the time to be the last of the breed, QE2. Travelling on her was a distant dream for 35 years of my life, but one day the Sunday paper contained a mini brochure advertising a crossing to New York just prior to Christmas 2004, at a price which was just about affordable. Day 3 or 4 of the crossing coincided with my parent's golden wedding anniversary. I knew they would have loved to travel on the ship but could never have afforded it, even though my father used to work for Trafalgar House, former owners of QE2. I consulted my wife and 3 children (then aged 16,14 and 8) although in reality I had made up my mind...although it involved missed school time, I told the headmaster that the trip would be an education, tracing the steps of emigrants as well as the rich and powerful, how the transatlantic liners shaped the world we live in by transforming the economies of America and Europe by exchanging people, culture and ideas, etc.
Anyway, he gave us clearance.......

I will never forget my parent's faces as they opened the mysterious gift box containing the voyage documents boldly headed "Mr John Fisher and Mrs Ann Fisher - Westbound Transatlantic 16th December 2004". In fact we all spent months in a constant state of excitement, until the great day when we headed to Southampton, and saw the famous red funnel appear above the skyline. Going onto the ship via the gangway to the midships lobby was like entering a seperate univesrse, where all your troubles were left behind, and every moment was filled with joy and peace.

After we had excitedly explored the ship, and settled into our three adjacent starboard outside double cabins on three deck, we sat down for a celebratory drink in the yacht club. My only reservation before boarding had been that onboard drinks would be prohibitively expensive (when on holiday in the Canaries I remember P & O passengers raiding the local off licences because of the onboard prices). I was surprised and delighted to see that good champagne was $40 a bottle, about £22 at the time, less than supermarket prices! My father and I anticipated with relish the wines we would be drinking with our meals.....

We left Southampton that evening on a glass calm sea, the food in the Mauretania retaurant was superb (another potential worry decisively dealt with) and as my father and I shared a night cap (malt whisky) in the chart room bar, we commented on how completely vibration free the ship seemed and the total lack of engine noise and movement. As I went to bed that night with the ship rolling ever so slightly I was hoping that we would see some rough weather - and my wish was fulfilled the next day.

After breakfast we went up on deck to see the ship powering into steadily building head seas, cannoning vast volleys of spray aside as she surged through the atlantic. It then became rather too windy and we went inside for lunch in the Lido. As this is at the stern of the ship the movement when the ship is pitching into a head sea becomes amplified. The waves grew and grew and according to the weather chart update attained 12-13 metres (40 feet) as the ship approached the end of the continental shelf in the Celtic Sea about 200 miles South West of the Irish coast. Captain McNaught was taking the great circle route (shortest and roughest) and in accordance with his usual practice (according to a senior waiter) was not hanging around in the first couple of days, to give him more options later (very severe weather was forecast for the approach to New York, although this did not transpire in the end). The waves were not particularly steep, which made them all the more impressive, particularly as it was only a force 8 gale. Having lunch was a challenge for both diners and waiters! The stern would rise and rise, stop for a second to the accompaniment of loud vibrations from the propellers, before suddenly dropping like a lift whose cables have been cut. I distinctly remember one particularly impressive rise of the stern which caused even the waiters to turn as one to stare out of the portside windows at what must have been a particularly big sea. They braced themselves as the ship corkscrewed suddenly down to port, causing standing passengers to fall (apparantly the were some minor injuries, the worst a broken ankle).

The weather calmed down for the rest of the trip (mostly), which was a bit of a relief for mother, although none of us ever get seasick so it was all part of the excitement of a winter transatlantic crossing. And this was a real crossing, not a cruise - the ship contained over 50% Americans who were travelling home for Christmas. The atmosphere on board was magical, with tasteful Christmas decorations appearing by the day. I have so many memories: the sight of the foredeck under thousands of gallons of water on the bridgecam on the cabin tv as the ship dealt effortlessly with one big swell after another, the strange juxtaposition sitting by the large windows in the Queens Room of perfect tea service as huge seas were flung aside on the other side of the window, the perfect rainbow one day in the totally unpolluted air of the mid atlantic, the steam rising off the sea as we entered the gulf stream in chilly weather, my parents waltzing to the orchestra after dinner as the ship sailed serenely westwards, the waiters singing to them on their 50th wedding anniversary after presenting them with a cake, the wine list as large and thick as a presentational book, the midday cocktails in the crystal bar, the entertaining histrionics of the cruise director as he enthusiastically showed us round the heritage trail and regaled us with stories of crossings in force 12, my daughter loving the dressing up for the evening, my youngest son spending hours staring out of the window looking for whales, the anticipation of superb food and wine, late night dancing in the yacht club, and many more.

One strange thing about QE2 was my experience of being in the Queen's room, staring across to the windows on the opposite side of the 105 foot wide room, and getting the sensation of the ship actually shrinking around you, as if to warmly envelop you and protect you from the restless atlantic. Despite her size, she actually became cosy, like staying in your best friend's house in a storm.

Eventually, one freezing and crystal clear morning, we rose early to see the lights of New York appear over the horizon, and we were gradually able to make out the famous landmarks, getting closer and closer. We passed under the Verrazano Narrows bridge, and it was fascinating to look up at the funnel wondering how much clearance there was (to the naked eye it looks nil or even less!). We slowly passed the Statue of Liberty like so many thousands of people before us, and I was overwhelmed by the sense of history from that moment until the famous Moran tugs guided the world's fastest and most beautiful liner into pier 90 . New York is a unique port because the liner seemed almost to park in the City Centre (I think they dock QM2 in Brooklyn now). On leaving the ship my parents had the joyous suprise of seeing my sister, her husband and their grandchildren who had secretly flown over to meet them (although I was in on this). When we were far enough away we could see for the first time the whole of the ship, and took some photograhs.  She had ice around her bows as a momento of another winter crossing safely completed. She looked achingly beautiful. I vowed to sail on her again.

As to her destination, New York is wonderful at Christmas Time, and we did all the usual landmarks. After three fantastic days it was something of a come down to queue for hours to get a seriously uncomfortable redeye flight back to a drizzly UK. When I am surrounded by a sea of troubles, which is most of the time, I am lifted by the memory that one Christmas I stood on the teak deck of an iconic transatlantic liner as it entered New York.

« Last Edit: Oct 17, 2009, 04:15 PM by andrew »

Offline highlander0108

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #1 on: Oct 17, 2009, 07:34 PM »
Thank you Andrew for that wonderful account of your winter crossing.  You may have heard about the WCC, or WInter Crossing Club.  I think your have earned membership with your trip.  ;D  I too managed to bacome a member on her final January crossing in 2008 just to experience what the ship was designed to do best.  Our seas were a bit rough the first two days but they were mainly large swells and the ship was pitching up and down in a very nice motion.  Our 3 deck cabin came alive with wonderful creaks shortly after we left Southampton and it just added to the experience.  We had a bit slower ride with the Queen Victoria tagging along so I did not get to experience full speed into some decent seas, though.

Ken
"There will never be another one like her" QE2's last Master Ian McNaught
My Blog:  http://qe2-prideoftheclyde.blogspot.com/

andrew

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Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #2 on: Oct 17, 2009, 10:26 PM »
Hi Ken, thanks for your comments. I'd never heard of WCC before - are there any other members on this site, or is it a "virtual" club?  We never hit full service speed on the trip, I never saw more than 27.6 knots on the cabin tv, but on a cruise to Norway in 2006 (my only other voyage) we had one long leg between ports of call and the captain (David ?Perkins) really let rip overnight, must have been around 30 knots - so that we had a full day in the next port. No other cruise ship could do this - the travellers on the giant floating condominiums had to put up with a half day only. The sun shone the whole time, very rare for Norway. We took the in laws for a one night taster cruise before doing the Norway one back to back. For the one nighter we were in Britannia grill cabins and had booked Caronia cabins for Norway, but to our surprise the cabin stewardess said we were in Britannia grill cabins the whole trip! I have no idea why we were upgraded, perhaps it was too much hassle to move us. The Britannia grill restaurant was wonderful, superb decor and service, and a table by those HUGE windows to see the sunset. The naturally lit public areas and the huge deck space made QE2 a matchless cruise ship as well as a genuine transatlantic liner. Just to return from a tour of Oslo or Amsterdam to see this stunningly beautiful ship waiting for us instead of the present day monstrosities stirred the soul.

I followed the whole of the transatlantic trip you were on on the bridgecam on my computer - I remember reading in the newspaper that the Queen Victoria couldn't handle the seas very well and made her passengers uncomfortable. The journalist pointed out that the QE2 could go backwards quicker than the QV could go forwards (which is almost but not quite accurate). This is progress??

I'm glad both of us had 3 deck cabins on our respective winter transatlantics - wasn't it fun to see the water racing past (or over) the porthole! There are some great photos of your trip taken from both liners of the other one on www.shipsnostalgia.com plus some atmospheric videos on you tube.

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #3 on: Oct 17, 2009, 10:45 PM »
Hi Andrew -- great to have you here! You have a wonderful QE2 story to tell, and I hope you will tell some more as you get time here, or in the other threads.

Every time someone tells their story in this Forum, it touches the rest of us, as we remember our own stories, or as we hear about things we would have liked to have done or to have known about while we still had the chance...

Welcome!

Offline highlander0108

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #4 on: Oct 18, 2009, 12:15 AM »
At least one of the founding members, Kyle (stowaway2k) is here.  Here is a link to Jon Sinclair(transat_jon)'s website explaining the history of the WCC.  I think you may even still be able to pick up one of his nice WCC pins to proudly wear on your next Cunard cruise.

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Unfortunately, I missed another tradition, the Cabin Cavalcade, on my crossing, and that too is explained on his site.  Since QE2 has so many unique cabin configurations due to her slender hull form and the method of construction of the time, it ws quite fun to see all the different types of cabins that were used to maximize cabin allocation for the two cabin classes.  This is in sharp contrast to the current ship designs, where the cabins all are built off site and rolled into position, with so many cookie cutter cabins and more blunt shaped hull forms.  Even QM2 is guilty of this trend.

A side note, Jon's website has an excellent section on visiting Edinburgh that I used last October for my first visit to the city. 

Missing Scotland and QE2  :'(
Ken
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"There will never be another one like her" QE2's last Master Ian McNaught
My Blog:  http://qe2-prideoftheclyde.blogspot.com/

Offline MiamiCunarder

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #5 on: Oct 20, 2009, 02:50 AM »
I think you're forgetting another founding member ;)


Ron

QE2 Winter crosser in Dec 2000, Dec 2002, Dec 2003, Dec 2004 and Dec 2006

andrew

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Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #6 on: Oct 20, 2009, 08:35 PM »
Hi Ron

That's quite few winter crossings in succession - how come? Be interested to hear your experiences

Andrew

Offline highlander0108

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #7 on: Oct 20, 2009, 08:43 PM »
I think you're forgetting another founding member ;)


Ron

QE2 Winter crosser in Dec 2000, Dec 2002, Dec 2003, Dec 2004 and Dec 2006

Sorry Ron, I did not make the connection.  You more than qualify.  ;D
"There will never be another one like her" QE2's last Master Ian McNaught
My Blog:  http://qe2-prideoftheclyde.blogspot.com/

Offline Twynkle

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #8 on: Oct 26, 2009, 11:04 AM »
Hello Andrew - Welcome aboard
It's great that you have joined us here!
Rosie.


Take a look at this!
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Thank you Everyone!
Wonderful Pictures - Wonderful people - and of course - Wonderful QE2!!
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Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #9 on: Oct 26, 2009, 09:16 PM »
Here's an example approaching New York-nice and warm going inside


What's your memories?

This is another great winter crossing video, with plenty of walking round the windswept QE2 decks, the Yacht Club, and the heart-warming words from Ian McNaught that "QE2 will of course be the first to arrive", i.e. before Queen Mary 2 and Queen Victoria! When he refers to "this extended Atlantic crossing", he is greeted with cheerful chuckles!
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Offline highlander0108

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #10 on: Oct 26, 2009, 09:36 PM »
I recorded that Noontime announcement as well.  This was Captain McNaught at his best.  Listening to his later announcements on QV, it appears all of the energy has been sapped from his voice.  I would just have to guess he is like us and deeply misses QE2.

Ken
"There will never be another one like her" QE2's last Master Ian McNaught
My Blog:  http://qe2-prideoftheclyde.blogspot.com/

Offline MiamiCunarder

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #11 on: Oct 27, 2009, 11:39 AM »
Ken,


Going slightly off topic here but have you heard from Kyle or for that matter, happen to keep in touch with him? I know he departed for your neck of the woods for a stay at a friend's (another winter crosser). I haven't heard from him since shortly before he left and would like to know how he's doing.

Ron


Offline highlander0108

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #12 on: Oct 27, 2009, 10:09 PM »
Ron, sorry but I have not kept in touch or have heard from Kyle.  I met him for the first time on my January 2008 WCC.  In fact, I was standing next to him in parts of that video I believe.  I had never met Kyle or Jon until that day and was instantly welcomed into the WCC family.  We all share the passion for this great ship and had many a spirited discussion.  I regret that I missed attending the Cabin Cavalcade as we were caught up in other activities and completely forgot the time.  Funny how that can happen onboard.  It was amazing how fast those "slow" seven days of the crossing went by.  I have Kyle to thank for dragging me up to the observation deck when it was closed on our last day at sea at noon and capturing some great photos and video of QV emerging and disappearing into the fog.

Fast forward to April of 2008, and while on the top level of the pier in NYC waiting for QE2 to appear out of the fog, Iend up meeting more members of the WCC, tandemtourer and his wife, who's names escape me, who are from Maine.  There is something magical about QE2 and the people who traveled on her and I will cherish the frendships I have made while onboard.  My only regret is not descovering this magic earlier on and sailing on her more often.

Ken
"There will never be another one like her" QE2's last Master Ian McNaught
My Blog:  http://qe2-prideoftheclyde.blogspot.com/

Offline MiamiCunarder

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #13 on: Jan 13, 2010, 03:57 PM »


Indeed, a great group, great times and a great ship. :)


Offline mickey g

Re: Winter transatlantic - a dream come true
« Reply #14 on: Jan 13, 2010, 09:17 PM »
I was on that tandem westbound crossing with QV and became a member of the "winter crossing club", I have a badge to prove it (which I wore with pride on QM2 last week, as I did with my "I love QE2" badge).

I have it on good authority that Captain McNaught is now with Seabourn, an amusing story was going around QM2 as to the reasons why.

Not sure if I should tell it, as I have no proof of authenticity
Yacht Club lover