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Title: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Nov 18, 2019, 09:11 AM
Good Morning Folks from a cold but clear Renfrew, River Clyde, Scotland!

Following on from the success of ps Waverley's fundraiser for her reboilering and the return of ps Maid of The Loch to steam here is another (albeit it smaller) project in which I have a personal involvement....

mv The Second Snark - was built by shipbuilder Wm Denny & Son in 1938 to be their yard workboat, tender and erstwhile Denny family private vessel to take clients out to view ship launches etc.
She was sold to Brown Brothers in 1963 and became a test bed for their ongoing ship stabiliser development programme.
In 1969 Brown Brothers sold her to Clyde Marine Motoring Co, Greenock where she was a passenger excursion vessel and ferry on various routes on The Clyde (as well as tendering to ps Waverley on many occasions) until her sale to an American businessman in 2017.

This is where it all started to go wrong for the old girl and where the press release copied below takes up the story.....

'17.11.19 - SECOND SNARK PRESERVATION SOCIETY

After over a year of work behind the scenes, we are today delighted to be able to make several keynote announcements.

MV The Second Snark Saved from Scrap
The 1938 Wm Denny & Son tender, MV The Second Snark, has been saved from scrap by her former owner, Hamish Munro, and the newly formed Second Snark Preservation Society.

By the summer of 2018 it had become apparent that after undergoing some £400,000 of restoration work, MV The Second Snark's American owner had had a change of heart about his project and had abandoned the ship in the yard of Stirling & Son yard, Plymouth.

With "The Snark" under real threat of demolition, Hamish Munro stepped in to save her and then repatriate her to Scotland. With the ship substantially stripped back, this involved her hull being patch repaired sufficient to re-float her. so that she then could be lifted out of the water at the Mayflower Marina. The Second Snark then was loaded on to a heavy transporter and made the 514 miles trip back to her homeland, by road.

Second Snark Preservation Society
Once secured at her temporary lay-up location, work was able to begin both on undertaking a full feasibility study and creating a new trust to take over the stewardship of this much loved little ship. This was only made possible thanks to the extremely generous support of Hamish Munro, who met all of the monthly storage costs from his own funds. All in all Mr Munro has donated about £20,000 to the project; we are indebted to him.

The Second Snark Preservation Society was duly incorporated by William Tomlinson and Gavin Stewart, and on 1st October the Charity became the official owners of MV The Second Snark.

The Trustees are delighted to report that after a full appraisal of the ship by naval architects Brookes Bell LLP and talks with the MCA, there is nothing to stop the The Second Snark from being restored to working order.
 
Our Vision
Quite simply, the Second Snark Preservation Society intends to complete the project that was started by the vessel's previous owner; we are going to complete the restoration and return MV The Second Snark to an operational condition.

With £400,000 of work already undertaken and with the estimate to completed the restoration at about the same amount, effectively we are 50% along the path to being able to operate the ship again. That is an absolutely excellent starting point.

Next Steps
Over the coming weeks we will be making further announcements about the future of the ship.

In the meantime, in order to take the project to the next stage we need to raise £20,000.
A fundraiser will be launched shortly via this Facebook page, and we hope you will support us as generously as you can in restoring this Clyde favourite.


- SSPS -'

We have secured a home for the vessel where the works can be carried out on her as the funds permit. An announcement will be made nearer the time of the move.
There is also another exciting tie in to be announced once the i's and t's have been dotted!

I sailed on this vessel many times between 2000 and 2007 and always promised myself if I won the lottery I would buy her!
I guess being Chairman of the society which owns her is close enough! The main thing is that we get her back where she belongs - on The Clyde!

There is a tenuous link to QE2 - the development work that was undertaken using this little ship in the 60s would have benefitted her via improvements to the stabiliser system fitted to her when she was built.

You'll find us on Facebook Second Snark (https://www.facebook.com/secondsnark/)

Gav

Some photos below:

(1) Towing a ship's engine in Denny of Dumbarton's yard in 1958 (Charles McCaig)
(2) On The Clyde in the 1980s
(3) Tendering to Waverley in 2012
(4) Tendering to Waverley in 2012
(5) Wheelhouse
(6) Yours truly on board in 2004 leaving Helensburgh bound for Gourock.
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Post by: Lynda Bradford on Nov 18, 2019, 09:48 AM
Gav thanks for posting the story of The Second Snark. 

You enthusiasm to get involved in restoring boats is incredible, I know you have given your time to restore the Waverley and to keep her shipshape, for many years and you are also currently involved helping with electrical work on the Queen Mary. 

Looking forward to hearing more about the progress of work and good luck with the fund-raising. 
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Nov 18, 2019, 10:22 AM
Gav thanks for posting the story of The Second Snark. 

You enthusiasm to get involved in restoring boats is incredible, I know you have given your time to restore the Waverley and to keep her shipshape, for many years and you are also currently involved helping with electrical work on the Queen Mary. 

Looking forward to hearing more about the progress of work and good luck with the fund-raising.

Thanks Lynda,

I cant believe that it was 9yrs since I "jumped ashore" from the Waverley thing - it was a great time to be involved though. Wishing them all the best of luck for 2020 and beyond.
Queen Mary is in a bit a lull just now - planning for the next restoration phase is underway.

I am really happy that the skills I have in my day to day job can be put to good use in this way. Getting The Second Snark back onto the river in some way will be the icing on the cake. A long way to go though but we've made a start finally!!

Gav
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Post by: No 736 on Nov 18, 2019, 05:34 PM
Great news Gavin, keep up the good work.
Steve S.
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Nov 18, 2019, 07:39 PM
About 10 - or maybe it was more.. - years ago, Waverley suffered a broken paddle when returning to Dunoon one weekend.  We were stranded in Dunoon for a while, and were delighted when Second Snark appeared to take us back over to Greenock.  My main memory is of going down below to a very cosy wee saloon, where we sheltered from the code, and warmed up, on our way back across.  From memory, she moved around a lot on the water!
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Dec 23, 2019, 01:59 PM
For those of you not on Facebook (and who are interested in following this wee ship) - we are starting to chart the ship from her leaving Greenock in Sept 2017 until her return in 2018 and everything in between!!

A Journey from Here to There and Back Again - Part 1

Not a great deal is known about what happened to "The Second Snark" after she left the Clyde, back in 2017. Over a series of short reports, therefore, we are going to do our best to bring you up to speed with all that befell her before her return to Scotland in 2018.

Each report will be accompanied by a series of previously unseen photographs, supplied with the kind permission of Stirling and Son Boatbuilders.

We will of course be detailing all of the work that was undertaken by Stirling and Son, at their yard, but we pick up the Snark's adventure right at the start, with her delivery voyage from Greenock to Plymouth.

The skipper's log for 1st September 2017 reads:

Delivery Voyage from Victoria Harbour, Greenock to Mayflower Marina, Plymouth
Day 1 – Departure from Greenock
Friday 1st September 2017

- Vessel is to have a crew of 3 for the voyage, all from Stirling and Son Boatbuilders (the company in Plymouth contracted by the new owner of The Second Snark to carry out work to convert her to a luxury yacht tender)
- Crew arrive at vessel 1430hrs, stow their gear and begin preparations for departure
- Vessel’s fuel tanks are topped up, main engines and generator are checked and started plus any loose items lashed down securely
- After reporting details of passage to the Coastguard, The Second Snark slips her moorings and departs from Victoria Harbour for the final time at 1900hrs
- Making 8 knots with a light wind from the North West and an adverse tide she made her way down river and as soon as Ailsa Craig was left to port the course was adjusted to make for South Rock, Northern Ireland
- As The Second Snark sailed her way into the night she was making 11 knots with a favourable tide and a light wind from the south.

In today's photos you can see:

(1) Gear on quayside ready for stowing
(2) MV Second Snark taking fuel
(3) Topping up engine fluids
(4) Starting main engines
(5) MV Second Snark alongside Victoria Harbour
(6) Bow view approaching G.O.T
(7) View back to wheelhouse approaching G.O.T
(8 ) View in wheelhouse passing G.O.T
(9) View off stern passing G.O.T
(10) Sunset approaching Gourock
(11) Roseneath Point on stbd side
(12) Main Channel – Cloch Lighthouse to port
(13) Close up of Cloch Lighthouse
(14) Main Channel – View of Loch Long and Holy Loch
(15) Main Channel – Down river view from wheelhouse roof
(16) Main Channel – Astern view from wheelhouse roof
(17) Main Channel – Great Cumbrae ahead
(18) Main Channel – East coast of Bute on stbd side
(19) Main Channel – Sailing into the darkness
(20) On Board – view of makeshift accommodation in fwd saloon

We will pick up the next leg of The Snark's coastal adventure in our next report, so make sure you check back soon!

I know its not QE2 related however hopefully of interest to some!!

Gav
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Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Dec 23, 2019, 02:00 PM
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Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Dec 23, 2019, 02:01 PM
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Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Dec 23, 2019, 02:15 PM
Thanks for sharing on the forum as well as Facebook Gav. 

Good story and looking forward to hearing more of her progress.
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Dec 23, 2019, 02:24 PM
About 10 - or maybe it was more.. - years ago, Waverley suffered a broken paddle when returning to Dunoon one weekend.  We were stranded in Dunoon for a while, and were delighted when Second Snark appeared to take us back over to Greenock.  My main memory is of going down below to a very cosy wee saloon, where we sheltered from the code, and warmed up, on our way back across.  From memory, she moved around a lot on the water!

Rob that was actually 17yrs ago. The ship was in between rebuild phases and would be due to sail back to Great Yarmouth at the end of the 2002 season for phase 2 to proceed.
She was en-route from Dunoon to Rothesay on Saturday 27th July 2002 when the number 1 radius rod on her starboard wheel snapped. This is the fixed "datum" rod that gives the other seven their position therefore the feathering gear used to determine the angle of entry of each float just collapses.

The full story is told here: Broken Radius Rod 270702 (http://www.waverleyandbalmoral.co.uk/PSWaverley/articles2002/broken.htm)

The Second Snark gets a mention further down.

Gav
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Dec 23, 2019, 02:28 PM
Thanks for sharing on the forum as well as Facebook Gav. 

Good story and looking forward to hearing more of her progress.

Thanks Lynda - these reports will hopefully be regular as there are a lot of photos that are interesting.
There will obviously be more announcements on restoration progress as and when is appropriate.

Gav
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jan 06, 2020, 08:18 AM
Part 2 of The Second Snark delivery voyage:

30.12.19 - A Journey from Here to There and Back Again

** Part 2 **

In our last post we left MV The Second Snark sailing into the night, on track for South Rock (Northern Ireland).

We re-join her the following morning, with a look at an extract from her skipper's log:

Delivery Voyage: Victoria Harbour, Greenock, to Mayflower Marina, Plymouth

Day 2 – Shelter from the Storm (Sat 2nd Sept 2017)

- Uneventful night
- Dawn brought a stiffening South Westerly wind (regular attention to Maritime Safety Broadcasts had revealed a front moving in)
- So far vessel motion was found to be easy, with a gentle return and less rolling motion than expected (although she was found to wander significantly, requiring concentration from helmsman to hold intended course)
- At South Rock course was set for Kish Lighthouse (pending a decision on where shelter will be sought, along with fuel)
- During passage down Clyde the generator fuel feed began to leak, necessitating isolation when generator not in use
- When starting generator today the valve was left closed, which caused it to stop; after bleeding fuel system the generator started without problem
- Wind continued to strengthen and forecast deteriorated (gale warnings); decision taken to make for Dun Laoghaire
- Permission to enter granted by Harbour Master; dinghy race meant use of horn to denote course and movements
- On arrival The Snark tied up at fuelling berth and tanks were filled
- Fuel consumption found to be very low and in line with figures from engine manufacturer (Gardner); Plymouth in range without need to make another fuel stop
- On completion of fuelling vessel moved to her allocated berth and preparations made for departure (so there would be no delay when the weather moderated)
- During the course of the day the weather did not moderate; 43.5 knot winds encountered through the night along with heavy rain (during which it was established that the decks leak!)

In today's photos (again kindly provided courtesy of Will Stirling and Son) you can see:

- Irish Sea - Port side on course for Kish Lighthouse
- Irish Sea - On course for Kish Lighthouse
- Irish Sea - Looking back along starboard side from bow
- Irish Sea - Bow at waterline
- Irish Sea - Booking back along starboard side
- Irish Sea - View forward to deckhouse
- Starboard main engine
- Port main engine gearbox
- Irish Sea - View ahead
- Irish Sea - Kish Lighthouse
- Heading for shelter and fuel at Dun Laoghaire
- Refuelling at Dun Laoghaire
- On refuelling berth at Dun Laoghaire starboard side
- On refuelling berth port side

We will pick up the next leg of The Snark's adventure as she battles through heavy weather on the Irish Sea, so make sure you check back soon!

SSPS

As you will see from the last two photos (and hopefully agree) - The Second Snark is a smart wee boat - she doesn't look like this just now sadly but that is the reason for the SSPS' existence!!

Gav
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Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jan 06, 2020, 08:20 AM
Continued from previous post:
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 09, 2020, 12:18 PM
Awesome stuff Gavin.

Thank you for sharing.

When can we book our QE2 story get together on board!?
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: pete cain on Jan 09, 2020, 06:02 PM
 Oh Gavin, marvellous stuff, you must have the heart of a lion, but what foundations to start from, I wish you all the best, unlike Queen Mary at least the second snark will be 'out there ' when finished, good luck to you & the team.
     OHHHH just looked at the defination of Snark I earnestly hope it doesn't apply ::)
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jan 10, 2020, 07:55 AM
Oh Gavin, marvellous stuff, you must have the heart of a lion, but what foundations to start from, I wish you all the best, unlike Queen Mary at least the second snark will be 'out there ' when finished, good luck to you & the team.
     OHHHH just looked at the defination of Snark I earnestly hope it doesn't apply ::)

Thanks Pete,

Make no mistake there is a small mountain to climb with this one but it will be worth it.
The Second Snark replaced the original Denny yard steam tender Snark which was built in the late 19th century.
TS Queen Mary is a project with very different goals and intents - the way I look at it is that at least she is still with us. It could've quite easily gone the other way back in 2015.

When finished The Second Snark will augment the small collection of historic Clydebuilt vessels that are berthed on the upper Clyde (Ferry No8, Glenlee, Queen Mary & Waverley) and  as a certified work boat she can be of assistance to them if / when they need her.

Gav
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jan 10, 2020, 07:56 AM
Awesome stuff Gavin.

Thank you for sharing.

When can we book our QE2 story get together on board!?

Hi Rob,

Thanks - initially she will be certified to work boat code which will only allow her to carry 12 passengers max however the intention is to future proof her as much as is possible / practical to allow us to put her into Class if deemed viable.

There will certainly be potential to get TQS members on board her!!

Gav
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Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jan 10, 2020, 08:06 AM
The shot below shows The Second Snark doing what she was originally built to do by Denny in 1938.

As well as general work boat and tendering duties she used to tow barges one of which was called "Boojum" , which were used to move ship engines from Denny's Engine Works down the Leven to the fitting out berths in the yard.

The photo attached shows her doing just that in the 1950s - not sure what ship the engine was for - all I do know is its a diesel!!

Original source of photo was Ships of Calmac website - original photographer unknown.

Gav
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Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jan 10, 2020, 10:03 AM
Thanks Gav for the continued story of mv The Second Snark's journey from Greenock to Plymouth, which seems like a long voyage for a small(ish) boat.

The photos really capture the moment in time. 
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jan 22, 2020, 09:29 AM
Hi Folks,

Part 3 of The Second Snark Delivery Voyage!

13.01.20 - A Journey from Here to There and Back Again
** Part 3 **

In our last post we left MV The Second Snark tied up safely in the small port of Dun Laoghaire. We re-join her the following morning, with a look at an extract from her skipper's log:

Delivery Voyage: Victoria Harbour, Greenock, to Mayflower Marina, Plymouth

Day 3 – Down the Irish Sea, Crossing to Mainland (Sun 3rd Sept 2017)

- By morning wind still blowing strong so therefore not possible to depart
- By midday wind had abated and forecast to further decrease; decision taken to depart marina at 1400
- During departure preparation port engine not starting
- Repair made to starter solenoid and engine started
- Intention to depart reported to Harbour Master
- Coming off berth difficult due to wheelhouse causing the bow to “weathercock” in the wind
- Wind Force 4 from the South East, with moderate sea state outside of pier head
- Once clear of pier head the motion of vessel from wheelhouse was exaggerated, however motion on main deck and in main accommodation comfortable
- Once underway mechanical bilge pump blocked (required an hour and a half to clear)
- Weather forecast and reporting gave a 2.5m wave height with moderating wind and decreasing sea state
- MV The Second Snark found to perform admirably in a moderate sea, with waves shouldered away (some slamming encountered in fore part when large waves encountered)
- Plotted course took MV The Second Snark down between mainland and off-lying Irish Banks, where strong adverse tide encountered (however sea state not aggravated)
- Speed 7.5 knots with minor cavitation of either propeller when pitching and rolling
- During afternoon wind and sea state abated (however swell from South remained)
- By dusk thick fog had descended, with visibility down to half a mile (reducing to 100 yards at times)
- Heavy concentration required to maintain course due to tendency for vessel to wander off course
- With shelter of Irish Banks behind MV The Second Snark gave Tuskar Rock and overfalls a wide berth, steering down central reservation of dog legged Traffic Separation Scheme before crossing out to South at right angles
- Thick fog encountered during this part of the voyage
- Course set for Longships Lighthouse
- Wind fell to light, with swells from South West
- Fog banks encountered through the night
- Now less than one day until journey’s end

In today's photos (again kindly provided courtesy of Will Stirling and Son) you can see:

- Irish Sea - Battling the waves
- Irish Sea - Deck view looking towards bow
- Irish Sea - Rough seas off stern
- Irish Sea - View along port side towards stern
- Irish Sea - Fog bank during the night

We will pick up the next leg of The Snark's adventure as she starts to near the end of her journey to Plymouth, so make sure you check back soon!

SSPS

Only one more part of the delivery voyage account to go!

Gav
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Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jan 22, 2020, 09:37 AM
This one hasnt gone onto social media yet so its a first here!

Part 3 of the Delivery Voyage log mentions the swell in the Irish Sea.

See attached video for an example of this. A big swell for a wee boat :)

Gav
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Post by: Bruce Nicholls on Jan 27, 2020, 11:35 PM
You all have my profound admiration steering this distance manually. It is very difficult not to wander off your bearing. On the odd occasions when "George" has not returned from shore leave on Lone Gerd I have always found the concentration needed to keep on course very tiring. Sylvia unfortunately finds it impossible and ends up going round in circles!
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Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Feb 03, 2020, 03:50 PM
Hi Folks,

Fourth and final part of The Second Snark's delivery voyage.

21.01.20 - A Journey from Here to There and Back Again
** Part 4 **
In our last post we left MV The Second Snark sailing through the night in thick fog. We re-join her the following morning, the final day of the delivery voyage, with a look at an extract from her skipper's log:
Delivery Voyage: Victoria Harbour, Greenock, to Mayflower Marina, Plymouth
Day 4 – Journey’s End - Arrival at Mayflower Marina, Plymouth (Mon 4th Sept 2017)
-   Still heading for Longships Light as dawn breaks
-   Longer swell on starboard bow from South West, Wind Force 3 South South West
-   Speed 9 knots
-   Sight Cape Cornwall at 1500 and shape course to pass between Longships Light and Carn Brae.
-   Course set for Lizard Lighthouse which brings the swell abeam. Motion remains respectable.
-   Favourable tide from Longships to Lizard. Wind Force 3 from the South West.
-   Speed 11 knots.
-   Pass through area of anchored ships awaiting sailing orders.
-   Course from Lizard to Rame Head. Wind and swell appear negligible and in the same direction as the vessel’s course.
-   Locate and pump out black water tank. Rinse with bleach and pump out a second time.
-   Enter Plymouth Sound in darkness at 2230.
-   Tied up at Mayflower Marina 2330.
-   Coastguard informed that passage complete.
-   Engines shut down, batteries isolated and sea valves closed.
This would be the last journey The Second Snark would complete under her own power.

Skipper’s Conclusions
-   The motion of the vessel is better than hoped. Careful attention should be paid to the current ballast distribution.
-   At close quarters the vessel is manoeuvrable and responsive.
-   When there is a fixed point on the horizon it is reasonably easy to hold course.
-   On a straight course over a long distance the vessel has poor steering qualities which see her yaw up to 45 degrees either side of her intended course requiring the utmost concentration.
-   It is thought that this characteristic may be due to a keel that is parallel to the water line terminating in a square fore foot.
-   Fuel consumption for both engines was 2.27 litres per nautical mile at an average speed of 9 knots. This is more or less in line with manufacturer’s predictions.

LOG ENDS.

In today's photos (again kindly provided courtesy of Stirling and Son) you can see:
- Heavy swell - Enroute for Longships Lighthouse
- Cape Cornwall – Longships Lighthouse in distance
- Manually pumping the bilges
- Cetic Sea – Mainland Astern
- Approaching Longships Lighthouse
- Heavy Swell passing Lands End
- Leaving Longships Lighthouse astern
- View aft from wheelhouse
- Both engines full ahead
- Lizard Lighthouse in distance off port bow
- Heavy load carrier mv Forte at anchor awaiting sailing orders
- Leaving anchored ships astern – course set for Rame Head
- View ahead – on course for Rame Head
- Leaving a wake astern – on course for Rame Head
- View down starboard side – on course for Rame Head
- On the berth at Mayflower Marina, Plymouth

We will pick up the next leg of The Snark's adventure as work begins on her conversion to yacht tender, so make sure you check back soon!
SSPS

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Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Feb 03, 2020, 03:52 PM
Follow on from last post.

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Post by: June Ingram on Feb 03, 2020, 04:26 PM
Many thanks, Gav, for your commentary and photos about The Second Snark.  She is an attractive little boat, and I especially like her lines in one of the first photos when looking at her broadside.  Her stern is very attractive too, her lines being in good proportion to each other.  It is great she is being taken care of !   :)
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Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Mar 09, 2020, 09:52 AM
A Wee Update for those interested!!!

"05.03.2020 – Major Step Forward for Project!
Since taking ownership of The Second Snark on 1st October 2019 the Trustees have been working tirelessly behind the scenes planning the next phase of the project.

The Snark has been in outdoor storage at Fairlie Marina since mid 2018 when she was rescued from the cutter’s torch by Hamish Munro – her former owner and operator.

Early on in this project it became very apparent that the work required to restore her to operational condition could not be undertaken at this location therefore relocating her to somewhere more suitable became the ultimate priority.

The Trustees are delighted to announce that today (4th March) The Second Snark was relocated to the Garvel Clyde facility in Greenock (Dales Marine).

The move was agreed in principle between the Trust and Dales late in 2019. However, certain logistical obstacles had to be overcome before it could take place.

Dales Marine are very kindly accommodating The Second Snark whilst fundraising and design works take place.

Over several phases, Dales Marine will undertake the work required in order that The Second Snark can take to the water once again!

Michael Milne, Managing Director of Dales Marine, says:
“Dales Marine Services (Greenock) are delighted to be working with the trustees of The Second Snark and helping to give this historic vessel a second chance.”

The transportation of the vessel was by Dumbarton based haulage specialists, Galt Transport.
A spokesman says:
“We are delighted to be working with the Second Snark Preservation Society to provide the overland transport for MV Second Snark.  As an important piece of local heritage we can’t wait to see her progress and ultimately set sail on the Clyde again.  We commend everyone who has been involved in her restoration so far, for their commitment and motivation in bringing this historical vessel back to life.”

Hamish Munro (the Second Snark’s former owner) says:
“This is a big step forward for the project. For a vessel built nine years before Waverley and only five years after Queen Mary, she is most definitely a candidate very worthy of saving and active preservation.”
Just today Hamish Munro also very generously confirmed that he had advised Galt Transport that Clyde Marine Services would meet the transportation charges for today's move.

Gavin Stewart, Chairman of The Second Snark Preservation Society, says:
“Whilst there is obviously still a fair way to go with the project this move represents the first and most important step to achieving our goal of seeing The Snark back where she belongs – sailing on the Firth of Clyde!”
Keep looking back for further coverage of this significant event, including a video capturing the entire move from Fairlie to Greenock. If you have not already done so, please also consider making a donation to our current fundraising campaign
SSPS"

The move went off without a hitch - it was a 66 mile round trip which involved a police escort from Fairlie to the 3 Towns Bypass just outside Ardrossan after which the Galt Transport Escort Vehicle took over from the Police. The entourage then proceeded down the A78 onto the A71, A77 from Kilmarnock to Glasgow then down the M8 / A8 to Garvel Clyde, Greenock.

A few photos from the move -

(1) The Second Snark being loaded onto the Galt Transport trailer by the Fairlie Quay Marina Ship Hoist.
(2) Passing me in a layby on the 3 Towns Bypass.
(3) Photo by Colin Leck (who lives in a flat overlooking the facility at Garvel) - showing the vessel being lowered into position.

The following day I was advised by Galt Transport that as well as giving a favourable rate to move her they had donated a shipping container to the Trust which will be used to store the contents of the hull which include her new aluminium deckhouse, shafts, propellers, windows, doors, ventilators etc - to allow work to start on the hull.

So Phase 0 (forming Trust and Taking Ownership of the vessel) and Phase 1 (relocating her to Greenock) are now complete - the budget for Phase 2 (which will see all the design work completed) has been established and fund raising is already under way!

To date more than £40,000 has been leveraged in cash and in kind donations.

The target is to have her hull works complete and the deckhouse erected by the end of 2020. She will look herself again and that will be a major achievement (IMHO)

Gav


Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: June Ingram on Mar 10, 2020, 01:33 PM
Thanks, Gav, very much for the update !  And the news could not be better.  Things are looking good and all good wishes for continued progress !   :)
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jul 15, 2020, 01:55 PM
Hi Folks,

For obvious reasons its been a while since there was any update to be had on this project.

"09.07.2020 - De-Storing Commences!

As The Second Snark was arriving at Garvel Clyde on 4th of March the spectre of COVID19 was starting to cast its shadow over our lives. Sure enough less than 3 weeks later the country was in lock down.
Within a week of the vessel's arrival the plan was to de-store her hull contents into the adjacent container - very kindly donated to the project by Galt Transport - so the Trust could itemise and assess the condition of the items. Lock down prevented this happening until 1st July when a small team of volunteers attended site and proceeded to start the removal process.
The team returned to site yesterday (8th July) so now almost all of the items that could be removed without the aid of craneage have been removed including over 40m3 of teak decking!
This will allow access to the internal hull for survey processes when funds permit.

Many thanks to Al Black, Lynn Morrison, Shelagh Holt for joining myself and fellow Trustee Billy Tomlinson to undertake these works and move this project forward!
Many thanks also to Dales Marine for providing a gangway to give us easy access to the deck.

TSSPS"

Footnotes
(1)  Dales Marine were allowing us to work at deck height without any barriers at our own risk. Moving forward there will be barriers erected around the edges and any deck penetrations.
(2) The condition of the parts removed from the ship is excellent - there was obviously a good amount of restoration work undertaken before the previous project was stopped.
(3) The Trust are going to have to look at off site storage for some of the parts removed from the ship to allow the remaining parts to be removed to the container. This will be prioritised based on when they will be required back on board

Photo 1 - View of the vessel from the other side of the James Watt Dock Entrance
Photo 2 - Associate Trust Member Alastair Black looks up from the deck below.
Photo 3 - The Clyde Marine houseflag flies on board The Second Snark once again!
Photo 4 - Nice wide gangway access thanks to Dales.
Photo 5 - Full container of parts (ship still isnt emptied!!)
Photo 6 - Trawler ARGO K which sunk off Ireland just over 2 months ago, arrived Friday before last for recycling.
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jul 16, 2020, 09:47 PM
Thanks for the update Gav. Good to know that the work is proceeding. You should be proud to be leading this project to restore this ship.
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: June Ingram on Jul 16, 2020, 11:26 PM
Many thanks, Gav, for the update ! And it is so good to hear that work is moving forward ! To you and all involved with her, keep up the good work !  :)
Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Aug 04, 2020, 02:29 PM
Hello again folks,

The project is in a quiet phase as we await news of potential funding but that doesnt mean nothing happens!
When we were de-storing the ship a couple of weeks back we removed a few key items from her for safe keeping.
One of those items was a bucket of brass fixtures and fittings which had obviously become a little oxidised since they were stored inside the ship!

Volunteer Alastair Black took a selection of them home to clean up and the results were amazing as can be seen below.

There are many items stored in the container which will require restoration and this can be carried out by volunteers rather than using trust funds. The only situation where that would not apply would be in the case of for example a window needed professional work on the frame etc.

Alastair has kindly provided before and after photos as follows:

(1) A brass nozzle and fitting for a water hose - before cleaning.
(2) + (3) After cleaning up.
(4) Oil Fuel Filler Cap before cleaning
(5) Oil Fuel Filler Cap after cleaning
(6) Taff Rail End Cap (hinged as it was located above a door in the bulwarks) before cleaning
(7) Taff Rail End Cap after cleaning
(8)Porthole Deadlight - before - during & after cleaning.

More to come as we hopefully progress into the next phase!!

Gav


Title: Re: mv The Second Snark - A New Venture
Post by: June Ingram on Aug 05, 2020, 01:51 AM
Amazing ! What a transformation !  :)