QE2 Story Forum

Non-QE2 Area => Ships => PS Waverley => Topic started by: Rob Lightbody on May 10, 2019, 03:55 PM

Title: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 10, 2019, 03:55 PM
Quote from: Waverley Excursions on Facebook

***WAVERLEY WITHDRAWN FROM SERVICE***

It is with deep regret we must inform our loyal customers and supporters that Waverley has been withdrawn from service.

Waverley Excursions Ltd General Manager, Paul Semple has made the following statement.

“Today I have to announce that following extensive efforts to repair Waverley’s boilers we have reached the conclusion that we must stop repairs. We now know that to give Waverley a future she will need new boilers.

The challenge ahead is significant and unlike previous challenges the ship has faced in the last 45 years through her preservation. I am personally appealing to anyone that wants to see this historic ship sail again. I know first-hand the fondness that the general public have for Waverley and I know this news will be upsetting. However, Waverley can sail again if we can raise the funds required to purchase and install new boilers.

The Registered Charity which owns Waverley will shortly launch an appeal to save the ship and ensure she sails again. The cost of the required works is significant but if every passenger who would have sailed this year donated the cost of their ticket towards our appeal we will return Waverley to steam. More than ever we need support to preserve this iconic vessel as the last sea-going paddle steamer in the world.”

Donations can be made now via our website or by texting STEAM followed by your chosen amount £10 or £20 to 70085.

Please share to help us save Waverley.

https://www.waverleyexcursions.co.uk/friends-of-waverley/donate/
[/font]
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 10, 2019, 04:20 PM
I donated this afternoon using Text message STEAM to 70085 as per instructions (see above post) . It was easy to do and I was happy to help, but many more people need to donate to save the Waverley and get her back to sailing again. 
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on May 10, 2019, 09:35 PM
They say in the appeal that if every one who would have sailed with Waverley this year donated the price of the ticket, it would help to get her going again.

I am sure that many of us here would (theoretically) have wanted to sail on her this year... how much would the price of that (theoretical) ticket have been, so that we might participate in supporting her?

For many of us, it is much easier to pay the cost of a theoretical ticket, than it would have been to actually travel to Glasgow to sail on her -- so we might find it easy to help!
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: tramscape on May 10, 2019, 11:04 PM
The average adult ticket price is around £ 30

It was advised tonight that the cost of purchasing and installing the new boilers alone would be in the region of £ 2 million
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 11, 2019, 09:23 AM
Listen to this programme from 50 minutes in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0004r9f
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 11, 2019, 09:53 AM

There was a suggestion on Twitter that if everyone who had posted on the tweet donated £20 they would have the money required. However the reality is so many people tweet on Twitter or post on Facebook but beyond that they do not act.

Basically even a smaller donation is better than nothing and would be appreciated. 

I hope they post the amount raised on a regular basis so as to keep people involved. 
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on May 11, 2019, 10:08 AM
https://www.waverleyexcursions.co.uk/friends-of-waverley/donate/

This is the "Donate" website. But I have not discovered how they would like people to donate. I thought there would be a link to a credit card donation, or a mention of their bank account, but all you can do there (or at least, all I have discovered there) is a list where you can make a pledge. I am not so interested in making a pledge, I would prefer to donate right away and know that I have done it...

Does anyone have a suggestion for a Forum member not resident in the UK?
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 11, 2019, 10:13 AM
https://www.waverleyexcursions.co.uk/friends-of-waverley/donate/

This is the "Donate" website. But I have not discovered how they would like people to donate. I thought there would be a link to a credit card donation, or a mention of their bank account, but all you can do there (or at least, all I have discovered there) is a list where you can make a pledge. I am not so interested in making a pledge, I would prefer to donate right away and know that I have done it...

Does anyone have a suggestion for a Forum member not resident in the UK?
I agree this donation page should have a button so as to have the opportunity to donate from the page. 

 I think the appeal could be handled a bit better and they are loosing opportunities to get funding. 

I donated sending a text to 70085 and  the text message STEAM followed by the amount I wanted to donate.

e.g. STEAM £20
      STEAM £10

or whatever amount you want to donate. 
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 11, 2019, 10:43 AM
I agree this donation page should have a button so as to have the opportunity to donate from the page. 

 I think the appeal could be handled a bit better and they are loosing opportunities to get funding. 

I donated sending a text to 70085 and  the text message STEAM followed by the amount I wanted to donate.

e.g. STEAM £20
      STEAM £10

or whatever amount you want to donate.

I think the main thing yesterday was they needed to announce that there were going to be no sailings at all this year, to allow everyone to make arrangements (crew/operators/passengers).  While doing that, they had to also appeal for donations.

This is going to take a while - they're saying many months to get the boilers built (after they have the millions raised) so at the moment its only a hope that she'll sail in 2020.

So what I mean is - I think they'll put out more organised appeals etc. in the coming period as they switch from trying to fix her - to trying to save her...
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: tramscape on May 11, 2019, 06:55 PM
Hey Rob, are you a director of Waverley Excursions or something, practising all those excuses ?? !!!

Ha Ha Ha

All the best
Gordon

 
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 11, 2019, 09:04 PM
Hey Rob, are you a director of Waverley Excursions or something, practising all those excuses ?? !!!

Ha Ha Ha

All the best
Gordon

Argh I can't help myself!

They're all wondering why she doesn't make millions of pounds from her £30 tickets!!
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 12, 2019, 11:44 AM
Hey Rob, are you a director of Waverley Excursions or something, practising all those excuses ?? !!!

Ha Ha Ha

All the best
Gordon

Gordon is referring to a hot debate that is ongoing on Waverley Excursions Facebook page where people are looking for answers such as "where has all the money gone" and "why didn't the boilers last longer" to "didn't you see this coming and save up?" and a number of people saying "her time is over - static attraction" and hte ones saying "feed the hungry/homeless first".
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 12, 2019, 11:54 AM
https://www.waverleyexcursions.co.uk/friends-of-waverley/donate/

This is the "Donate" website. But I have not discovered how they would like people to donate. I thought there would be a link to a credit card donation, or a mention of their bank account, but all you can do there (or at least, all I have discovered there) is a list where you can make a pledge. I am not so interested in making a pledge, I would prefer to donate right away and know that I have done it...

Does anyone have a suggestion for a Forum member not resident in the UK?

I filled in that form - then clicked Submit - and took me to a payment page where I put a payment through via Paypal.
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 12, 2019, 12:21 PM
Quote from: Waverley Excursions on Facebook
***THANK YOU***

We would like to thank everyone for their support over the past 48 hours since we announced Paddle Steamer Waverley has been withdrawn from service. 😢

Many have already donated which is fantastic. It is heart warming that Waverley is getting such support as we know she is worth fighting for.

We have received many messages offering ideas on fundraising and offers of help which is very much appreciated. Please bear with us as the small team at Waverley prepares the appeal. We now need to get firm costings for the work required as we know supporters will want a clear target.

In the meantime please help us spread the message that the time is NOW to act and SAVE THE WAVERLEY. This ship belongs to the people and everyone who has ever sailed on her has contributed to her success. She has survived many challenges in the past and now needs support or she will never steam again.

Donate online at waverleyexcursions.co.uk or call 0141 243 2224 during office hours.

Text STEAM 20 to 70057 to donate £20.

Every donation will go towards Waverley and help ensure that the last sea-going paddle steamer in the world is not lost.

Please like and share to play your part and help Save the Waverley.

#savethewaverley
#waverleyexcursions
#psps_uk
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Thomas Hypher on May 13, 2019, 10:15 PM
Sad to see this and the resultant comments from some people elsewhere online as Rob and Gordon mention/allude to. Here's hoping Waverley will be back sailing in 2020 and back down here too as part of her sailings.
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jun 13, 2019, 09:47 PM
Why the Paddle Steamer Waverley must be saved :

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/martyn-mclaughlin-why-the-waverley-paddle-steamer-must-be-saved-1-4945654
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: tramscape on Jun 14, 2019, 09:23 PM
The official launch of the appeal is tomorrow Saturday 15th June at Waverley's berth outside the Science Centre at midday

Big crowds of well-wishers are expected - and the TV cameras too, so if you want to be on telly .....
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 15, 2019, 03:08 PM
The official launch of the appeal is tomorrow Saturday 15th June at Waverley's berth outside the Science Centre at midday

Big crowds of well-wishers are expected - and the TV cameras too, so if you want to be on telly .....

I was planning to be there, but something came up unfortunately.

I hope it all went to plan!
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jun 17, 2019, 01:19 PM
I couldn't be there on Saturday however it looked to be very well attended from the photos posted on Waverley Excursions' Social Media pages.

£100k has been raised so far another £100k is required to allow them to place an order for the boilers.

More here:

ps Waverley Appeal Launch (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-48648972)

Obviously I really hope they succeed but I think its a tall order for 2020. Keeping her in ticket whilst out of service is one of the other real challenges the owners and operators also face and that will also cost money too.

Gav
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jun 17, 2019, 01:37 PM
I am glad that there was a good turn out for the event, but even more important now that people spread the word that funding is required. 

One hundred thousand is far away from the two million plus that they need to cover the cost of the boiler replacement, so they very much need a a sponsor with big money to come along to help with the funding. 

I read on a Waverley Tweet  that if everyone who would have sailed on Waverley donated the cost of the ticket they would have the money required. Lets hope people dig deep and contribute.
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: tramscape on Jun 18, 2019, 02:42 PM
Just over 300 were at the appeal launch, but not me. This is less than the would set off from Glasgow with on a decent Saturday's cruise......but under the circumstances, still a good turn out

However, £ 100 k is a small amount and apparently much of it represents tickets bought but for which refunds have not been sought. It is unlikely that a substantial amount more will be raised from the general public

Waverley's annual turnover in tickets is around £ 1.5 million so yes, that would go a long way, but persuading people to buy "virtual tickets", whilst sounding good, is probably not going to have the effect needed

Therefore, it basically relies on a major selfless benefactor and that doesn't seem likely, but you never know

As far as I understand it, the ship will not lose grandfather rights for some time, so maybe there is time to put in a lottery grant application after all

I would be surprised if they would commit £ 200 k on a deposit for a boiler if there is no expectation of the rest being raised and I would not expect a manufacturer to commence manufacturing either, so everything seems very much up in the air to me

Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 18, 2019, 04:23 PM
I'm really worried, and feel I may have already sailed on her for the last time, which makes me unbelievably sad.
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 18, 2019, 06:42 PM
I can't remember if I posted at the time, but last August, my colleague took me out on the Clyde in his rather nifty speedboat, and by complete luck and coincidence, we met Waverley as she came over to Dunoon from Greenock.  We were alongside her as she steamed in, and again as she steamed out.  I discovered that a very bouncy speedboat isn't the best platform to shoot a video, but the photos are OK!  I am thinking now how lucky I was to witness it - I said to my colleague at the time, that there was no guarantee that she'd sail for much longer, and he should enjoy it too, and appreciate it.  He didn't know much about Waverley at all, despite having a boat moored in Dunoon.   

I never took her for granted.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1775/43142494054_12b60e9fa7_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28Jmyqo)
PS Waverley approaching Dunoon Pier (https://flic.kr/p/28Jmyqo) by Rob Lightbody (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightbody/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1839/29990370058_6d780a5e34_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MG9uaQ)
PS Waverley approaching Dunoon Pier (https://flic.kr/p/MG9uaQ) by Rob Lightbody (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightbody/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/928/42051727770_c0e9f0293e_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/274Y6B9)
Waverley at Dunoon Pier (https://flic.kr/p/274Y6B9) by Rob Lightbody (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightbody/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/1838/43143788684_3353fd7fa6_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28JtcgA)
Waverley and the seals (https://flic.kr/p/28JtcgA) by Rob Lightbody (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightbody/), on Flickr
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rod on Jun 19, 2019, 12:52 PM
Beautiful, simply beautiful. Ship and scenery!
I miss Scotland!
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: June Ingram on Jun 19, 2019, 03:34 PM
Great photos of Waverley, Rob !  Some of the best I have seen !   :)
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: tramscape on Jun 20, 2019, 09:53 PM
Waverley has been photographed a billion and one times, but that one with the seals stands out from the crowd  for obvious reasons

Brilliant
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 29, 2019, 03:35 PM
Waverley has been photographed a billion and one times, but that one with the seals stands out from the crowd  for obvious reasons

Brilliant

Thank you - it was very stressful taking it!  The speedboat was bobbing around like crazy, and I knew the scene would just last for seconds!  If I hadn't been using my "good" camera - with the high shutter speed set - none of the photos would have come out at all.
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: cunardqueen on Jun 30, 2019, 05:50 PM
Quote
  I think the appeal could be handled a bit better and they are loosing opportunities to get funding.   

Cant help but think the Waverley Mug is a golden chance missed. get a few made. sell  for £20 (£3 to post them) and there you have a donation built in, everyone buys mugs ! 
I bought the Waverley Bottle top warmers on the very first gathering ..they have never been used but just sit there ontop of my bottles .
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jul 12, 2019, 11:33 AM
A step forward - announced yesterday.

I am somewhat glad to read that Cochran of Annan are the selected vendor - it is their Thermax model of package boilers which are being replaced and I would imagine that this will limit the amount of changes (if any) required to the vessel to accomodate them - namely the mounts on the bottom hull frames.

Also I would hope Cochran will have taken the findings from the existing units and input some modification to the design to try (as much as possible) to prevent the issues that caused the existing units to require replacement re-occurring within the lifetime of these new units (assuming the issues had anything to do with the construction of course)

This project also takes the opportunity to remove redundant equipment from the Boiler Room - namely the Furnace Oil conditioning systems as she in no longer permitted to burn that type of fuel any more - relocate some of the auxiliary equipment to a better location etc.

Effectively try to future proof the installation as far as possible.

Theres still a long road to go however this is a significant milestone.

Waverley Boiler Order Placed. (https://www.paddlesteamers.org/news/national/new-boilers-ordered-for-the-iconic-paddle-steamer-waverley-wel-press-release/)

Gav
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: June Ingram on Jul 12, 2019, 03:46 PM
Thanks, Gav, for the update !   :)
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Sep 08, 2019, 11:30 AM
£850,000... but another £1.5m needed to get Waverley ship-shape

https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17887761.850-000-another-1-5m-needed-get-waverley-ship-shape/
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Sep 21, 2019, 08:48 AM
Fantastic news this morning, with the Scottish government giving £1 million.  One more QE2 story gathering on board is looking more possible!

Waverley paddle steamer appeal given £1m from Scottish government (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49773249#click=https://t.co/g4ZXic6Lzc)

I think they've done the right thing, but as a taxpayer I'd hope there's some conditions attached. 

Oh and if they get her going again - please don't let drunken, yobbish Stag and Hen do's ruin Saturdays - it takes away the vast majority of the days of the year when I am actually free to go on board :(
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: tramscape on Sep 21, 2019, 08:04 PM
Oh and if they get her going again - please don't let drunken, yobbish Stag and Hen do's ruin Saturdays

That would be some feat. Let's see !

Fantastic news anyway. She will survive
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: cunardqueen on Sep 22, 2019, 05:36 PM
Quote
  Oh and if they get her going again - please don't let drunken, yobbish Stag and Hen do's ruin Saturdays - it takes away the vast majority of the days of the year when I am actually free to go on board :( 

Sadly these "events" bring in a load of revenue, there is also the  flip side that it puts people off, but unless droves of people are not going because of that express reason , unless numbers are down so much that the steamer is sailing at less than capacity, then these sailing will carry on. If they could be persuaded to run a non stag/hen sailing it might be a boon for those that done care for that element of society on the open decks, But it would l fear also confirm to the company just how profitable these sailings are. 
 
I remember speaking with someone in the know on Queen Mary about their Ink Festival. It might not be what we think is best or even a good idea, but the income from the bar sales is something that simply cannot be turned down. and if the crowd take over all the cabins as well, it is a big money spinner.

We run Prosecco afternoons, im sure you know the type of thing unlimited prosecco with food , it caters for a female crowd and runs between 1-4pm , i mercifully am not there, but for that 4 hours its free flowing prosecco and a disco. The staff hate them, its a hellish mess to clear up and you run very close to licensing laws. They fill up as soon as date are mentioned and we hold about 10 a year.  For that limited time frame it brings in more revenue than a whole day wedding, and generally a whole load easier and is very easy money. And while the Prosecco genuinely is unlimited, the public have no unearthly idea how much they are actually drinking, they have this fanciful idea its many bottles, the reality is no where near, BUT for it to be efective you must keep the glasses topped up. the price per head is £40
 
 The Queen Mary do a stunning Sunday brunch, and they are forever topping up your mimosa, you do really need to tell them to stop, And like most American places they use decent orange juice  Iv always said its one of the best brunch venues out  there. You pay what l think is a cheap price for such an experience, and the "champagne" is all their own Queen Mary Labels then as you take a look over the Queen Mary in their souvenir shops , you can buy your own Queen Mary Champagne. The first time l spotted it, l was aghast at how much they were charging per bottle, But they dont really need to sell it, but its there and people do think when seeing the price just what great value they have just had, they are not seeing the vastly inflated price of the bottle . Its a great move and l always have a quiet chuckle . But then when your getting around 900 people for a brunch, the money speaks for its self.             

And people wonder why i dont drink !
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Dec 18, 2019, 11:32 PM
Good news - the appeal has reached the target; seen on Twitter.  Unfortunately I'm not on my main computer and this forum doesn't seem to take screenshots so all I can do is post the link.

Edit: I don't know why it's saying "tweet does not exist" because clicking on the link does indeed go straight to the tweet in question.

Edit 2: Thank you to Rob for fixing that issue and allowing the tweet to display properly. :)

https://twitter.com/islandecho/status/1207254397153099776



Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Dec 19, 2019, 06:58 AM
Here is a screenshot. Good news indeed!

The actual article is here :

https://www.islandecho.co.uk/paddle-steamer-waverley-saved-as-appeal-reaches-2-3million-target/
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Dec 19, 2019, 09:01 AM
Great Christmas present for enthusiasts and those directly involved!

I dont think anyone ever thought that the target would be reached in seven months!

Looking forward to monitoring progress when she arrives at Dales Marine, Greenock during January.

Gav
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Dec 19, 2019, 09:54 AM
It was at the QE2 Story get together in May, when we visited PS Waverley for a tour that we were first made aware of the need to raise over £2million to allow the boiler work to take place and the ship to sail again.

Fantastic news that the money has been raised in such a relatively short time and that we can look forward to sailing on the Waverley next year - sounds like a good option for a QE2 Story get together
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Dec 22, 2019, 12:12 PM
Great Christmas present for enthusiasts and those directly involved!

I dont think anyone ever thought that the target would be reached in seven months!

Looking forward to monitoring progress when she arrives at Dales Marine, Greenock during January.

Gav

This is fantastic news, it really is.  I'm overjoyed and will be making immense efforts to travel on her at least once.
Title: Re: PS Waverley - Taken out of service requiring new boilers (May 2019)
Post by: tramscape on Dec 24, 2019, 02:06 PM
One has to wonder, though, what  the situation would have been if the Scottish Government had not come up with half of it.

I'm not sure what specific fund this money came from, if any, but it came much more quickly than would have happened with "normal" applications for funding. I guess that the Scottish Governement's much-trumpeted "Year of Coasts and Waters" in 2020 had a lot to do with it - it would have been much damaged by Waverley's absence !

Whatever the whys and wherefores, us enthusiasts can only be glad that this particular project was treated so favourably