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The QE2's Story (in-service) => Design, Concept & Build => QE2 build photos => Topic started by: Waverley on Mar 04, 2019, 12:02 AM

Title: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Waverley on Mar 04, 2019, 12:02 AM
Note: eBay link removed as no longer active

Just viewed this on ebay. Someone may want to bid for the slides. There could be some really wonderful photos in this collection. There are only a few examples shown but this must be a rare collection.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 05, 2019, 10:55 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-BOX-OF-APPROX-275-ORIGINAL-SHIP-LINER-SLIDES-QE2-BUILDING-SEA-TRIALS-ETC/352608528541?hash=item52191b289d:g:nqwAAOSwMgJcfB-v&redirect=mobile

Just viewed this on ebay. Someone may want to bid for the slides. There could be some really wonderful photos in this collection. There are only a few examples shown but this must be a rare collection.

Hi Robert

This could be a great find... specially being as you lost your precious camera with many photos way back over 10 years ago!
I wonder if there will be a copyright issue, if we thought about getting together with the hope of buying them for the benefit everyone to enjoy here on TQS!
They could fetch a great many ££££
Trust all is well with you?
Rosie
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 07, 2019, 04:50 PM
I have put a bid on these.

If I win, I commit to sharing high quality scans of all the slides here and for the benefit of the forum, and won't profit by them.

Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 07, 2019, 05:12 PM
I have put a bid on these.

If I win, I commit to sharing high quality scans of all the slides here and for the benefit of the forum, and won't profit by them.

I would be prepared to help you increase your bid if you think that would help. Let me know.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Waverley on Mar 07, 2019, 10:22 PM
Good idea Isabelle. I would be prepared to help too Rob. Also Rosie suggested getting together on this.
Just let me know.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Trevor Casey on Mar 09, 2019, 06:04 AM
Beautiful slides. Too bad i'm dirt broke!  :D
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 09, 2019, 01:40 PM
Hi Rob,
Please can you find PM in your mail box here on TQS?
Many thanks
Rosie
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 10, 2019, 08:20 PM
I am pleased to announce that I have secured these for £177.

I intend to scan all the ones that are worth scanning, at high quality, and share with you here - however I am afraid they will have to be watermarked for the same reason as usual.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Waverley on Mar 10, 2019, 08:35 PM
Brilliant, I am sure that there will be some interesting photos in the collection. Can't wait to see them.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 10, 2019, 09:00 PM
That is good - QE2 would be totally delighted!
Well done, Rob!
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 10, 2019, 09:18 PM
Brilliant, I am sure that there will be some interesting photos in the collection. Can't wait to see them.

All thanks to you, Waverley! Without you, we might never have known about these slides :) .
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 11, 2019, 12:29 AM
 
 Congratulations on being the winning bidder, At least we know who two of the bidders were. I thought there might have been more bidders .
Its a shame that such things need to be watermarked on here.  It would have been a good chance to recoup some money by offering to get prints made of them. But then it does stop ruthless coping of such things.   
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rod on Mar 11, 2019, 02:48 AM
Congratulation! Being totally ignorant of these matters....is that a good price?  64 p a slide seems great to me!
I look forward to seeing them, congrats again Rob and thanks!
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 11, 2019, 08:20 AM
Some members very kindly offered to donate funds to boost what I was willing to pay for these, to ensure we secured them for the forum.  You know who you are - thank you.

All thanks to you, Waverley! Without you, we might never have known about these slides :) .

Yes thanks so much Robert!

Congratulation! Being totally ignorant of these matters....is that a good price?  64 p a slide seems great to me!
I look forward to seeing them, congrats again Rob and thanks!

Seems OK to me!  The question is, how high would we have gone...?!


 Congratulations on being the winning bidder, At least we know who two of the bidders were. I thought there might have been more bidders .
Its a shame that such things need to be watermarked on here.  It would have been a good chance to recoup some money by offering to get prints made of them. But then it does stop ruthless coping of such things.

Who was the other one you're thinking of?  I think there were 3 bidders including me.

Without Watermarking, if published online, they simply get shared on Facebook with no credit.  In fact the 2nd person who shares them, doesn't even remember where they came from.  It happens all the time, across all subject matters, and Facebook has never done a single thing about it.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 11, 2019, 05:16 PM
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  Who was the other one you're thinking of?  I think there were 3 bidders including me. 

Me... ::)

There were only 4 bidders in total. One of the others l think looks like one l  have sold to in the past.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Mar 11, 2019, 09:20 PM
Congratulations Rob! And thank you Waverley for bringing them to the forum's attention! Can't wait to see the photos!
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Mar 13, 2019, 09:24 AM
Me... ::)

There were only 4 bidders in total. One of the others l think looks like one l  have sold to in the past.

Yep Myles - it was me!

:)
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: June Ingram on Mar 13, 2019, 01:57 PM
Thanks, Rob and Waverley !  What a wonderful find !  I, also, can't wait to see them !   :)
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 13, 2019, 05:33 PM
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Yep Myles - it was me!   

All is fair in love and war, Except when it comes to Ebay.. :)
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 13, 2019, 06:28 PM
All is fair in love and war, Except when it comes to Ebay.. :)

I am quite naïve about eBay...

Are you saying that (a) you were all bidding for these slides in order to donate them to the Forum, but without having let Rob know, or (b) you made Rob spend more Forum funds because you were competing with him for the slides?

Or both...?
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Mar 13, 2019, 09:35 PM
I was wondering about that...  Should we prepare a plank...?
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Mar 14, 2019, 01:16 PM
I am quite naïve about eBay...

Are you saying that (a) you were all bidding for these slides in order to donate them to the Forum, but without having let Rob know, or (b) you made Rob spend more Forum funds because you were competing with him for the slides?

Or both...?

Isabelle,

I cast my bid before I read this thread otherwise I would've backed off because it (unfortunately in this case) pushes the end cost up hence Rob paid more. My bid was way off what they eventually went for.
Photos are for viewing - if I had won these instead of Rob then the outcome would've been the same.

Looking forward to seeing them and also happy knowing that a valuable collection of original slides is now in good hands!

So you can draw your plank in Peter  :)

Gav
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 14, 2019, 04:40 PM
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  I am quite naïve about eBay...   

The first thing and the golden rule is with Ebay, when you click "confirm bid" you are entering into a contract and  agreeing to pay that price IF you win, its not a game or a thing to play about with. and as a seller on ebay l dont hold any prisoners. There is nothing worse that having someone bid and then asking to have it cancelled (it can be cancelled but we dont go there) and the bidder can retract the bid, which l dont agree with.   
When you look at the bid history, and that isnt my seller name for obvious reasons the bid placed is the maximum that person has bid, in my case £125  Joe Blogs can bid a higher figure  . Indeed the winning bidder will generally appear to have won the bid by only a small amount, For all we know the winning bidder could have placed a £500 bid but previous bidders wont know that and can continue to bid and be out bid until that maximim bid is reached.

I recently stopped using my original ebay seller name , generally because when your reach a feedback of six thousand some things can happen so l swopped to what is now my other account.



 
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Are you saying that (a) you were all bidding for these slides in order to donate them to the Forum, but without having let Rob know, or (b) you made Rob spend more Forum funds because you were competing with him for the slides?   

Why did l bid what l did , simply l was happy to pay the price l bid. And l was not going to get involved in a bidding war. As it happens l didnt win , the reason doesnt matter ,But it would not have been  hot footing it down to Tesco to make copies and flood the market . It might have been quite nice to hire a local hall lay on some tea and homebakes and have a slide show like the good old days  and remind us of the merrits of the SWRI and their slide shows 


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I was wondering about that...  Should we prepare a plank...? 

Im happy to walk the plank , However it should be noted for the prosecution l cannot swim. and lm not really good with water, least of all being made to jump in it.
and like l say..all is fair in love and war, except when it comes to Ebay.
For what its worth, lm surprised Rob won, l honesty expected them to go for much more and to one of three people who didnt bid. But then its a strange world on Ebay.


   

Bidder   Bid amount   Bid time
r***y(501)   £172.88   10 Mar 2019 at 7:40:01PM GMT
r***y(501)   £172.88   9 Mar 2019 at 5:56:42PM GMT
r***y(501)   £172.88   8 Mar 2019 at 10:23:32AM GMT
s***s(3610)   £167.88   10 Mar 2019 at 8:06:30PM GMT
Myles (1220)   £125.00   10 Mar 2019 at 6:19:01PM GMT
v***2(573)   £121.00   10 Mar 2019 at 4:28:51PM GMT
v***2(573)   £107.00   10 Mar 2019 at 4:25:26PM GMT
v***2(573)   £90.00   10 Mar 2019 at 2:37:41PM GMT
r***y(501)   £75.00   7 Mar 2019 at 4:49:26PM GMT
Starting price   £74.99   3 Mar 2019 at 8:06:33PM GMT
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Mar 14, 2019, 11:04 PM
I recently stopped using my original ebay seller name , generally because when your reach a feedback of six thousand some things can happen

Sounds intriguing - what sort of things happen when the feedback reaches 6,000?

I stopped selling on e-Bay myself a few months ago; I'm just about to launch my own website for selling off my unwanted items... so I'm not likely to reach the 6,000 level myself - I'm on 344 or something...
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 15, 2019, 10:51 AM
The latest news on the slides is that I think they're at my local post office (even though the eBay item itself still says its not sent), however just to make things more interesting, my local post office has apparently shut down...  I'll sort it out tomorrow morning.

As soon as I have them, I'll scan a couple in and describe the rest of them if I can.

Providing prints of them is possible - however I am realistic - people just scan things in and post them on Facebook then there's nothing to show for £177!!
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 15, 2019, 05:51 PM
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  The latest news on the slides is that I think they're at my local post office (even though the eBay item itself still says its not sent), however just to make things more interesting, my local post office has apparently shut down...  I'll sort it out tomorrow morning. 

If its the online tracking system, then the seller should have sent these by Special Delivery (which does provide full online tracking ) Special delivery provides compensation for the value of the package in this case.
 If the seller has gone for the cheap option of "Signed for", then the tracking only kicks in to show when the item has actually been delivered and only provides compensation upto £40 . and assuming the postperson has scanned the barcode. with this recent addition to the service it allows for ANY item larger than a large letter to have the confirmed delivery shown on the ebay tracking when its been delivered. For the ebay sellers out there this is a valuable tool for buyers who claim the item hasnt been delivered . its a marvelous system and as yet highly undervalued. 

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Providing prints of them is possible - however I am realistic - people just scan things in and post them on Facebook then there's nothing to show for £177!! 
Thats the harsh reality, l was offered duplicate photos from very well meaning friends on here, and l was very flattered to find some of my own photos among them.

   
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As soon as I have them, I'll scan a couple in and describe the rest of them if I can.   
At the risk of telling someone how to suck eggs , this is an ideal chance to rather than post a whole load in one go to post them one at a time and allow for some discussion on what we see etc... Not that it matters with copyright ??? but do you now have carte blanche to print, publish, post or do with these in whatever way you like ?
Some of these free photo sites allow you to upload them into mini books and or photo tiles and provide one book per month free of charge, maybe a chance to allow a rare monthly prize  in the photo of the month comp ? or put the photo tiles on ebay and who knows the investment might be recouped ten fold...   For what its worth my thinking was the photo tiles and at one tile per month cover the side of the wall next to my desktop... or plan a vintage QE2 calendar , or get an outside projector and project QE2 on the front of your house  ......well the worlds your oyster with these.
Then do you allow these for the world and his wife to see , or perhaps gently tease people back to here....or allow them to be seen by only active members.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Mar 15, 2019, 08:54 PM
If the seller has gone for the cheap option of "Signed for", then the tracking only kicks in to show when the item has actually been delivered and only provides compensation up to £40, and assuming the postperson has scanned the bar code. With this recent addition to the service it allows for ANY item larger than a large letter to have the confirmed delivery shown on the ebay tracking when its been delivered. For the ebay sellers out there this is a valuable tool for buyers who claim the item hasn't been delivered . Its a marvelous system and as yet highly undervalued.

I personally wouldn't describe the Signed For service as marvelous; speaking from direct personal experience I can say that typically 5% to 6% on average, consistently, never get signed for.  It's also no more secure than ordinary post.

Special Delivery, as you rightly point out, is fully tracked and is much better - albeit at a price.  With Special Delivery, the items have to be signed for by each and every person within Royal Mail who handles them.  So at every handover during transit, there will be a signature.

Signed for, on the other hand, is simply scanned at the point of collection and then dumped in with the regular, normal, everyday post for the transit.  In theory it then gets scanned again and signed for at the point of delivery, but there's another difference... a Special can only be signed for by the addressee.  A Signed For can be signed for by literally anyone, even the next door neighbour.  I have even seen some on the Royal Mail Track and Trace website that were signed for by "Postie", which is a total abuse of the system and renders it pointless.

One other point which is little known - even if you know for certain that a Signed For has been delivered, you - if you are the sender - can still claim the £1.10 extra fee back from the Royal Mail for signature failure - and as I said above, the signature failure rate is consistently 5% to 6%...
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 15, 2019, 09:05 PM
If its the online tracking system, then the seller should have sent these by Special Delivery (which does provide full online tracking ) Special delivery provides compensation for the value of the package in this case.
 If the seller has gone for the cheap option of "Signed for", then the tracking only kicks in to show when the item has actually been delivered and only provides compensation upto £40 . and assuming the postperson has scanned the barcode. with this recent addition to the service it allows for ANY item larger than a large letter to have the confirmed delivery shown on the ebay tracking when its been delivered. For the ebay sellers out there this is a valuable tool for buyers who claim the item hasnt been delivered . its a marvelous system and as yet highly undervalued. 
Thats the harsh reality, l was offered duplicate photos from very well meaning friends on here, and l was very flattered to find some of my own photos among them.
eBay still says it hasn't been posted at all - no tracking number - and no contact from the seller.  However I have a card through a door, with a tracking number on it, telling me something is at the post office.

    At the risk of telling someone how to suck eggs , this is an ideal chance to rather than post a whole load in one go to post them one at a time and allow for some discussion on what we see etc... Not that it matters with copyright ??? but do you now have carte blanche to print, publish, post or do with these in whatever way you like ?
Some of these free photo sites allow you to upload them into mini books and or photo tiles and provide one book per month free of charge, maybe a chance to allow a rare monthly prize  in the photo of the month comp ? or put the photo tiles on ebay and who knows the investment might be recouped ten fold...   For what its worth my thinking was the photo tiles and at one tile per month cover the side of the wall next to my desktop... or plan a vintage QE2 calendar , or get an outside projector and project QE2 on the front of your house  ......well the worlds your oyster with these.
Then do you allow these for the world and his wife to see , or perhaps gently tease people back to here....or allow them to be seen by only active members.

I like the idea of dribbling them onto the forum to boost discussion and interest (and visits).  I would only actually project them if I was sure the projector wouldn't damage them or deteriorate them.  I think the best bet really is to just get them scanned and then leave them preserved in their box somewhere dark, cool and dry.

The seller says we have copyright... a vintage calendar is a nice idea, but would have the same theft problem as discussed above.... decisions decisions decisions!!  Nice ones though.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 16, 2019, 11:16 AM
The slides have arrived...
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 16, 2019, 12:11 PM
OK so at first glance, they're every bit as exciting as we thought they would be.

I attach one photo - I'm just fine-tuning my scanning settings before proceeding.  Its not easy, and need to be careful to get any wee hairs off the slides before scanning.

All images are Copyright © 2019 The QE2 Story and not to be reused without permission.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Alex Tarry on Mar 16, 2019, 12:24 PM
Wow...can’t wait to see some more! 👍😁
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 16, 2019, 01:07 PM
Thanks so much to you, Rob

The detail is superb!
I wonder whether the photographer will ever know just how important a camera-person he or she was?!
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Waverley on Mar 16, 2019, 03:45 PM
Absolutely superb. Great detailed photo. Watermark is not too obvious once the photo is clicked for viewing larger.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 16, 2019, 04:35 PM
I've attached a couple more, both taken on deck in September 1967 just before launch.  I'm afraid I've lowered the resolution, while I consider how to best handle these.  If you've been on board QE2, you should have stood in both spots I'd imagine!

So far (I am 2/3rds of the way through the first of the 5 slide boxes) the photos are mainly 1967 and 1968 while in Clydebank, both interior, on-deck and dockside.  There are a number of fascinating photos, and things I've never seen before.

All images are Copyright © 2019 The QE2 Story and not to be reused without permission.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Cunarder Man on Mar 16, 2019, 10:08 PM
Magnificent!
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 17, 2019, 11:12 AM
I'm nearly finished the first box, which has mostly been exterior shots, with some on-deck and a few internal shots of incomplete interiors.  The box ends with some shots from December 1968 of her in Greenock and on trials I think...

The rest of the little markers in the box say...

xmas 1968 pools
personalities & work 67 - 68
easter 1969
seaviews of QE2 1968 trials
fitting out & tech trials 67-68
xmas 68 externals
internals xmas 68
qe2 1976 soton
childrens xmas voyage dec 20th 68 - jan 1 69
easter 69 voyage externals
easter 69 voyage
qe2 soton dry dock & night pictures 1970

Attached is another from the first box

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Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 17, 2019, 01:29 PM
This Is Exciting!!

Might it be useful to link Bryce Foundling's post here too?
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php?topic=6580.0
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rod on Mar 17, 2019, 03:37 PM
This is interesting.
There appears to be no "crash"  boat at No 1 boat position.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 17, 2019, 07:02 PM
Here's a final couple for this weekend.

We're now thinking of a book... and contacting the Press... watch this space...

All images are Copyright © 2019 The QE2 Story and not to be reused without permission.
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Waverley on Mar 17, 2019, 08:04 PM
Rob.
These are fantastic. Not only the ship but great to see the John Brown's shipyard buildings and cranes too.
A book would be great with all of these new unique photos never seen before.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Chris Thompson on Mar 18, 2019, 11:43 AM
Hi Rob,
just a note that copying of these can be somewhat prevented by adding what's called an applet
to each photo if they are displayed through this website, The applet prevents right clicking.
I did this on a photography site that I had, worked very well, it does not prevent printing the screen
from a PC but does stop high quality copies.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Mar 18, 2019, 02:41 PM
The photos are amazing !   :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Mar 18, 2019, 03:43 PM
Are these official John Brown photos? If not who took them I wonder.

I have photos taken in James Lamont & Co Ltd's Port Glasgow and Greenock yards from the mid 40s to the early 70s - they were all official yard photos taken by a local photography company in Greenock.

I wonder if its the same setup for these or whether JB had their own in house photographer?

Gav
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 18, 2019, 06:11 PM
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  We're now thinking of a book... and contacting the Press... watch this space...
 

What about a DVD that allows people to use them for screen savers or does that open them up for copying ?
It might seem there is scope for a few different projects..products etc

While a calendar can be a good thing, what about a version with no calendar format..
Or why not throw the topic out there for ideas..

The forum has a Golden Goose, from which could lay some golden eggs and while money may not be an overiding factor, it does certainly need to be considered.
 
Can you imagine going to a screening and seeing just one of the photos on a banner display outside the location ..and there are many more to come. Im still stunned by the rolling footage of QE2 at the V&A in Dundee...that for me alone was worth the price for the whole weekend ..

And who on earth would or could write the forward for the book..... are we thinking a print on demand or the other style of books

If you want to tease us even more Rob just show a tiny fraction of a slide  with a "Guess what this is..."

Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 18, 2019, 07:43 PM
Here's one for Gav from tonight's batch.

He'll see why...

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Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 18, 2019, 11:52 PM
Here's a final couple for this weekend.

We're now thinking of a book... and contacting the Press... watch this space...

All images are Copyright © 2019 The QE2 Story and not to be reused without permission.

That is good news, and delighted to know that the suggestion's being taken seriously!
"The QE2 Story - Keeping the legend alive"
As well as containing some excellent photographs, together with their own copyright, and very much hoping that it'll be written by yourself and perhaps Flagship too.
The contents and index will be superb!
'Vivat QE2'!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Mar 19, 2019, 10:54 AM
Here's one for Gav from tonight's batch.

He'll see why...

All images are Copyright © 2019 The QE2 Story and not to be reused without permission.

Damn she's a beautiful ship!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 19, 2019, 11:06 AM
Damn she's a beautiful ship!

Speaking of which... See attached... Taken shortly after the photo above, in Warner climes...

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Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Mar 19, 2019, 01:06 PM
Here's one for Gav from tonight's batch.

He'll see why...

All images are Copyright © 2019 The QE2 Story and not to be reused without permission.

Oft what a cracker!!

I have not seen a photo of her in Inchgreen from that angle before - cheers Rob!

The BP funnel over the top of the shed is  (if I recall correctly) Swan Hunter built tanker British Argosy (1966) - waiting for the tank cleaning berth.

Gav
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Mar 19, 2019, 01:26 PM
Wonderful photos !  She is indeed beautiful - without equal ! 
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 19, 2019, 06:33 PM
Are these official John Brown photos? If not who took them I wonder.

I have photos taken in James Lamont & Co Ltd's Port Glasgow and Greenock yards from the mid 40s to the early 70s - they were all official yard photos taken by a local photography company in Greenock.

I wonder if its the same setup for these or whether JB had their own in house photographer?

Gav

I have actually, I think, figured out who the photographer is... but I don't want to say yet in public.  He appears to be from a supplier who was working on board installing equipment.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 19, 2019, 07:33 PM
I have actually, I think, figured out who the photographer is... but I don't want to say yet in public.  He appears to be from a supplier who was working on board installing equipment.

And he no longer owns the copyright?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 19, 2019, 07:55 PM
Tonight's photo is for Rod!

They're both from the same slide.

Believed to be January 1969... somewhere...
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 19, 2019, 07:56 PM
And he no longer owns the copyright?

I believe not, because I have the originals, and the seller has told me that the copyright comes with them. 
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Mar 19, 2019, 10:04 PM
Tonight's photo is for Rod!

They're both from the same slide.

Believed to be January 1969... somewhere...

That person could almost be Ronnie Bateson!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 20, 2019, 07:31 PM
That person could almost be Ronnie Bateson!

Speaking of identifying people... how about this... and is that the original wardroom decor?  It looks very modern and stylish - even now I think!
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Post by: Rod on Mar 20, 2019, 09:33 PM
One on the left is Hughie Cameron later to become Chief Electrician, do not know the other 2.
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Post by: Rod on Mar 20, 2019, 09:35 PM
As to decor, yes I think it could be. Curtains were there in 71 when I joined as well as the tables and white chairs. The brown chairs later had flat wooden tops added to the arms.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 20, 2019, 10:12 PM
On the photos that I believe are from the December 68 to Jan 69 trials, this chap appears singing in the Queens Room and double down room. Was he someone famous?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 21, 2019, 10:55 AM
I believe not, because I have the originals, and the seller has told me that the copyright comes with them.

This is extraordinary,  hopefully the seller (?"Crew"!) might like/ be able to join us at a future Gathering :)
Is there anyway that you can convey very many sincere thanks?

And...Waverley, Hi, and Thank You so much, again - it was you who found the gold at the end of the rainbow!
Just wishing we could have a Gathering in the Summer too!
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 21, 2019, 06:50 PM
See attached, look for clues, and then you should be able to use the forum to say almost exactly when it was taken...
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Post by: Alex Tarry on Mar 21, 2019, 07:37 PM
Oh, another great image...I am no expert but I see the first set of penthouses, but not the big suites which were added later...
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Mar 21, 2019, 09:00 PM
I would say 71-72. Penthouses were put on after I went back to college, one of the reasons we had to get off so that Vospers workers could use the cadet cabins for accom,  but before I returned in August of 73.
During my final year at college they also changed out boats 9,10 11 and 12 to the Harding launches with the Volvo Penta engines. The pic dhows the original 9,10,11 and 12.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 21, 2019, 09:14 PM
You're both right... I know I had to lower the resolution, but if you look carefully you'll see that the penthouses have literally just been fitted (the workers are still there and the end hasn't been painted yet) and windows of the lookout lounge have only just been plated over (they're yellow).
Title: Re: QE2 slides on eBay
Post by: Trevor Casey on Mar 22, 2019, 12:44 AM
I've attached a couple more, both taken on deck in September 1967 just before launch.  I'm afraid I've lowered the resolution, while I consider how to best handle these.  If you've been on board QE2, you should have stood in both spots I'd imagine!

So far (I am 2/3rds of the way through the first of the 5 slide boxes) the photos are mainly 1967 and 1968 while in Clydebank, both interior, on-deck and dockside.  There are a number of fascinating photos, and things I've never seen before.

All images are Copyright © 2019 The QE2 Story and not to be reused without permission.
My goodness these are absolutely gorgeous!
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 22, 2019, 06:13 PM
My heart skipped a beat, when I held this slide up to the light and saw what it was of.

(sorry for the watermark).

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Post by: Chris Thompson on Mar 22, 2019, 06:28 PM
Does anyone know how that red console worked and what it displayed??
Always been fascinated by that contraption...wonder where it ended up......

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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 22, 2019, 07:08 PM
Does anyone know how that red console worked and what it displayed??
Always been fascinated by that contraption...wonder where it ended up......

Our member Bob C remembers it - I'm sure he's told us on here before what it showed...
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 22, 2019, 07:27 PM
One of the things that is fascinating in the photos, is seeing the detail, often in the background, in otherwise mundane photos.

For example the attached, which I think is during the December 68>Jan 69 trials, shows the sliding glass panels that the Queens Room incorporated on each side.  I've never seen such a close shot as this, in colour. 

Another photo shows the colour that the window blinds were (cream with an orange check) as well as the internal curtain colour (cream/yellow/orange).

Having been immersed in these slides for nearly a week now, I do feel like my dream of going back in time to the as-built QE2 has virtually been realised.
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Post by: Cunarder Man on Mar 22, 2019, 08:27 PM
Rob, same guy with the child is sitting by the piano with the group of children. Maybe he’s a member of the social staff?  I think the wee girl features in the other picture too.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Alex Tarry on Mar 22, 2019, 08:53 PM
Amazing photos, so modern, would look great even now...this is the QE2 I wish I had seen...

One thing is for sure, she's always changed and let's acknowledge it, she has always survived...

A lot has changed inside now, some of it for the better...by which I mean I didn't like the 'red and white stripes era' on the cabin chairs!
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Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 22, 2019, 09:10 PM
Superb pictures, Rob, and a wonderful find for the QE2Story!

I love that early-years look, so light and cheerful and modern. Great to catch those glimpses into a period most of us never got to see for real.
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Post by: Rod on Mar 22, 2019, 09:22 PM
Gentleman with the beard and dark glasses....Commodore Warwick?
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Post by: Rod on Mar 22, 2019, 09:25 PM
I think the console showed direction one side, speed the other than a map in the middle. This wa all later displayed on a screen, much larger on the forward bulkhead.
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Post by: Peter Mugridge on Mar 22, 2019, 09:58 PM
My heart skipped a beat, when I held this slide up to the light and saw what it was of.

The Lookout Bar...?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 23, 2019, 11:25 AM
The Lookout Bar...?

Hi Peter

Did it have railings?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Chris Thompson on Mar 23, 2019, 12:36 PM
Unusual that internal railings were not installed on those windows, I have visions of people being bashed into the windows when she was in a heavy sea. The deceleration when hitting a large wave could be quite dramatic
I remember being in the casino one time when this happened and my tool cart came flying toward me and a passenger.....I gallantly took the hit...OUCH!
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 23, 2019, 12:52 PM
Do you think those windows would have survived the storms she faced over the coming 4 decades?
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Post by: Peter Mugridge on Mar 23, 2019, 03:53 PM
Hi Peter

Did it have railings?

I have no idea - the only time I was ever on board was September 2002, by which time that bar was long gone.

Do you think those windows would have survived the storms she faced over the coming 4 decades?

Good question - I suspect given their size even armoured glass would have felt the strain at some point.  Out of curiosity - did they use armoured glass or if not then what?
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Post by: Thomas Hypher on Mar 23, 2019, 04:09 PM
Absolutely wonderful unseen photos! Thank you for procuring them for the forum and sharing them with us Rob!
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 23, 2019, 04:45 PM
Hi Peter

Did it have railings?

The bit outside the lookout lounge was a deck with railings, most of it is still there today, even with the original black plastic handrail I made a point in 2011 of standing there.
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Post by: pete cain on Mar 23, 2019, 05:06 PM
Absolutely wonderful unseen photos! Thank you for procuring them for the forum and sharing them with us Rob!
Hear hear, marvellous stuff.
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Post by: June Ingram on Mar 23, 2019, 10:32 PM
These are marvelous photos, and again, many thanks to Rob for securing them for The Forum !

Indeed, there is such a tremendous amount of detail in the background of the photos.

This is the QE2 who I fell in love with !   :)  :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 24, 2019, 02:56 PM
Another one for Rod attached - see anyone you recognise?

At anchor, April 69.
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Post by: Rod on Mar 24, 2019, 05:04 PM
Mortimer Hehir?
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 27, 2019, 06:39 PM
Tonight's photo (attached) was taken in January 1969.  Taken from the coffee shop I presume (later the Queens Grill Bar) looking out to boat deck, where one of hte lifeboats has been lowered.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Mar 29, 2019, 03:12 PM
What a wonderful photo of a wonderful space.  I absolutely love those chairs !   :)
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 29, 2019, 04:16 PM
Quick update on the mammoth project that is these slides!!

I've now finished scanning them in, and I feel a little sadness at the end of the surprises each time I scan one.  An awful lot of the photos are either of people, or are poor quality - I think this probably leaves around a quarter of the slides as "good".

Initially, I scanned the box in the order they were in the box, however it has become clear to me that they weren't in the box in any order any more...  Now, some slides are stamped with a date, so that's fine.  Others have something written on them.  But lots of others - a whole pile - have nothing at all.

I have sat this afternoon and sorted the slides into each type of slide, and am reorganising them that way.  This way (hopefully) a clue or something written on one slide, can date-check all the other slides of that batch to give at least an approximate date.

See photo attached!
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Post by: Thomas Hypher on Mar 29, 2019, 05:35 PM
Tonight's photo (attached) was taken in January 1969.  Taken from the coffee shop I presume (later the Queens Grill Bar) looking out to boat deck, where one of hte lifeboats has been lowered.

Interesting to note the rolled up Jacob's Ladder. Wonder what it was doing there at the time?
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Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 29, 2019, 09:41 PM
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I've now finished scanning them in, and I feel a little sadness at the end of the surprises each time I scan one.  An awful lot of the photos are either of people, or are poor quality - I think this probably leaves around a quarter of the slides as "good". 

Ahhhh But each slide captures a  rare moment in time and unlike todays modern gadgets the photographer would have no idea at the time if they would turn out good bad or indifferent.

After the 4th May event it might be a good chance to post the less than interestings ones one at a time and open them up for discussion, what, who, where do we see in the slides ?
Dont be sad Rob, Be Glad  :)
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Post by: Trevor Casey on Apr 03, 2019, 02:44 AM
My heart skipped a beat, when I held this slide up to the light and saw what it was of.

(sorry for the watermark).
Oh my god
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 04, 2019, 06:27 PM
Without completely "spilling the beans" I've decided to share thumbnails of each set of slides, which I'll start doing some time after our special launch event in may.
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Post by: Lynda Bradford on Apr 04, 2019, 07:13 PM
Without completely "spilling the beans" I've decided to share thumbnails of each set of slides.

Tonight its the November 67 slides.  Two months after QE2 has launched, progress has been rapid.

Tomorrow will be June 68.

Awe - your spoiling the surprise
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 04, 2019, 07:32 PM
Hmm, ok, do this after the event in may then?
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Post by: cunardqueen on Apr 04, 2019, 08:32 PM
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   Hmm, ok, do this after the event in may then? 

Even though lm not going , i seriously think you should wait till after the event before showing any more slides.
Let those who are keen to pay for the day out have first exclusive viewing. Ok maybe one or two teasers
 
You want to create a buzz about the event and slides, and while some mignt not appear interesting or any use, thats only in your view.

Quite what can or should happen after the event is another matter, l still like the idea of a calendar format but with no date section.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Apr 04, 2019, 11:57 PM
Without completely "spilling the beans" I've decided to share thumbnails of each set of slides.

Tonight its the November 67 slides.  Two months after QE2 has launched, progress has been rapid.

Could it be that three of these pics are identical?

I'm inclined to agree with Myles, that these slides should be enjoyed at the planned Event first, before being shared (even in thumbnail) with the rest of us... we shall just have to wait and be patient.

But of course you could use a very small number to entice participants to the Event!
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Post by: Andy Holloway on Apr 05, 2019, 10:23 AM
Another one for Rod attached - see anyone you recognise?

At anchor, April 69.
I'd think that the man in the cap on the top of the accommodation ladder is The Security Officer, or whatever the equivalent position was when QE2 first entered service. Looking closely at him he's no 'spring chicken' and, noting the medal ribbons he's wearing, almost certainly saw service in WW2, which when QE2 was first in service had only finished 25 years before, not as long as QE2 was in service!!
Someone, far better qualified than I, might possibly be able to put a name and actual rank to him, hopefully.
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Post by: Lynda Bradford on Apr 19, 2019, 04:02 PM
A big thank-you to Tristan Stewart-Robertson, from the Clydebank Post for including this article on Rob finding the QE2 slides on EBay. I will add the online link as soon as it is availalble

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10596/normal_MwQmsFA3STqyz44KPAtN2A.jpg)


(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10596/normal_pU4bht2BjRYiS6LcDQi2BmJQ.jpg)
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 21, 2019, 12:31 PM
Today is Easter Sunday, so I will share a photo from the box of Slides from Easter, 1969, when QE2 was undergoing her second set of trials, which were successful - a huge relief after the disastrous first trials.

If you look closely, you can see Easter Egg boxes amongst the children.
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Post by: Lynda Bradford on Apr 21, 2019, 12:47 PM
Fabulous photo.  I wonder where all the children are now and what are their memories of being on QE2

Looking forward to seeing your presentation of the slides on 4 May in Glasgow  (https://www.theqe2story.com/events/2019/index.html)  It will be a fantastic get together of like minded people celebrating QE2.

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Post by: June Ingram on Apr 21, 2019, 02:01 PM
Great article and thanks, Rob, for sharing an Easter slide.  Just awesome !  :)
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 02, 2019, 11:08 AM
The slides have already been featured in the Clydebank Post, but today we have a feature in the Scotman newspaper, which is one of Scotland's biggest newspapers.  Quite a coup.

https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scotsman/20190502/281694026202628
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 02, 2019, 01:34 PM
And another major story in Scotland's other national newspaper, the herald

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17613934.never-before-seen-images-of-qe2-to-be-unveiled-in-glasgow/
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Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 02, 2019, 02:07 PM
I am really looking forward to the event on Saturday both the Waverley tour and the two slide shows and Magic Ride film.
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Post by: Michael Gallagher on May 02, 2019, 02:34 PM
And in today's Greenock Telegraph
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Post by: cunardqueen on May 02, 2019, 08:56 PM
WOW ! :o
Hope you all have a great day tomorrow and raise a glass to our mighty ship
Not only making news 50 years ago today but 32 years ago as we raced (except for the short time when we were limping along ) to New York on the maiden voyage of the NEW  QE2.

 
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Post by: Andy Holloway on May 03, 2019, 02:34 PM
It was on the BBC News website this morning.

Apologies if it's already been mentioned and answered but, where have these slides been for the last 50 years?

Andy
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Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 03, 2019, 03:22 PM
It was on the BBC News website this morning.

Apologies if it's already been mentioned and answered but, where have these slides been for the last 50 years?

Andy

I haven't seen anything on the BBC website - can you post a link Andy?
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 03, 2019, 03:41 PM
Quote from: Andy Holloway ...where have these slides been for the last 50 years?

Andy

Hi Andy,

Don't know!  But I'd guess an attic or cupboard... They were in a clearance I think and going to go in a skip... Makes you think how many others have been lost.
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 03, 2019, 04:18 PM
Attached is the print version of the herald article
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Post by: Andy Holloway on May 03, 2019, 06:44 PM
I haven't seen anything on the BBC website - can you post a link Andy?

I didn't see it my wife told me about it from something she saw on her phone, i'll try to find out what it was, i'm sure she said it was BBC.

My technology starts and ends with two baked bean tins and a length of string!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 05, 2019, 12:54 PM
We have decided that we're going to release a batch of these photos, timed to each newsletter going out.  I hope everyone is OK with that. They'll go into our gallery here, watermarked I'm afraid.

We're also considering other options.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Sep 14, 2019, 12:35 PM
The first slides have now been added to the gallery

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207
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Post by: June Ingram on Sep 17, 2019, 04:40 PM
Awesome, Rob !  Many, many thanks !   :)
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Dec 28, 2019, 03:44 PM
I have now added another batch of the slides to the gallery.

These are from summer 1967, and include some SPECTACULAR images.

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207
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Post by: pete cain on Dec 28, 2019, 05:44 PM
Stunning,
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Post by: June Ingram on Dec 30, 2019, 03:22 PM
These are amazing photos !  Thanks, Rob, for adding them !   :)
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Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 10, 2020, 04:51 PM
I have just added the latest batch of slides to the gallery, which include some of the slides that actually made me gasp out loud when I saw them for the first time.

A reminder that all images are © The QE2 Story and action will be taken if anyone posts them elsewhere.

The link to the gallery - https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207
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Post by: Thomas Hypher on Jan 10, 2020, 05:15 PM
Excellent photos!
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Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 11, 2020, 06:52 PM
Bit by bit, I shall be bringing the photos forward into the Forum, so that we can discuss them here.

QE2's bow being constructed, 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides059_Jun_67.jpg)

QE2 being constructed, 1967, starboard side

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides065_Jun_67_straight.jpg)

QE2 being constructed, 1967, starboard side with scaffolding stairs

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides074_Jun_67_fill.jpg)

Looking at these pictures, I am astounded at the height and size of QE2. Which of course we know, but all the supports and the scaffolding make it stand out even more!

It makes me wonder at the massive tonnage of supporting materials that were used, items that were later removed and presumably re-used elsewhere. The stories these scaffolds could tell!
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Post by: pete cain on Jan 12, 2020, 05:43 PM
I'm really sorry not to've noticed this topic (I knew Rob was posting  bit by bit)  but WOW, just brilliant, I bet they are something else on a bigger screen.  What I love is that - no matter how much it's needed, the QE2 story logo on these beauties is tucked away discreetly so that we can enjoy the vista.
   Thanks Rob, these images here for ever,     QE2 Story  a historic repository in the making!!!
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Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 12, 2020, 10:31 PM
I seem to recall there being a picture in a Ladybird book about ships that was very similar to that picture of the bow being built...?
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Post by: Waverley on Jan 15, 2020, 03:41 PM
Is it this one from the Ladybird book “The Ocean Liner” ?
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Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 15, 2020, 05:33 PM
Next series of pictures from the Gallery :

QE2 being constructed, 1967, starboard side

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides078_Jun_67.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides084_Jun_67_rotate_fill.jpg)

View across QE2's bow and Clydebank QE2 under construction in Clydebank in summer 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides051_Sep_67.jpg)

A historical view now, a busy, smokey and probably noisy place... providing employment and an income for many. The "good old days" were maybe not altogether healthy old days...
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 15, 2020, 10:27 PM
Is it this one from the Ladybird book “The Ocean Liner” ?

Yes, that is the very picture I remember from 45 odd years ago...
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Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 22, 2020, 08:19 PM
More of the "unseen" slides.

QE2 under construction in Clydebank in summer 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides056_Sep_67_straight.jpg)

Inside the theatre - QE2 under construction in Clydebank in summer 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides322_fill.jpg)

On the boat deck - QE2 under construction in Clydebank in summer 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides057_Sep_67.jpg)

It is extraordinary to see these spaces, which we know so well, in their "raw" state, ready to become... and yet, many of the elements we know are already there, such as the long Boat Deck windows.
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Post by: Mauretania1907 on Jan 29, 2020, 08:54 AM
Interestinng to see how slim the bow was atop the bulb (as shown in picture above)
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Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jan 29, 2020, 11:18 AM
(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides051_Sep_67.jpg)

This is one of my favourite photos that I remember from the slide show that Rob done last year.  It shows a view of the Town of Clydebank taken from the ship in the fitting out basin.  On the left you can barely see the clock of the Clydebank Town Hall where we held the 50th anniversary of QE2's launch a few years ago and for those who remember Clydebank in the 1960 you can see Kilbowie Road and the Singer Sewing Machine factory, which is just about visible.

But what really fascinates me about the picture is I remember as the ship was being built she towered over the tenement building, but she was in the shipyard where only workers had access, so "Bankies" like me, could only watch with wonder as deck by deck she grew. However in this photo there is the reverse! QE2 is looking over Clydebank - watching me - watching her!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Jan 29, 2020, 03:33 PM
These photos are amazing to see !  They are truly awe-inspiring !   :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 29, 2020, 08:40 PM
A few more photos from the "unseen" series.

The entire series is collected in the QE2Story Gallery, here :

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207

QE2 under construction in Clydebank in summer 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides062_Sep_67_fill.jpg)

Look aft on QE2 in summer 1967 towards the River Cart

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides060_Sep_67_fill.jpg)

QE2 under construction in Clydebank, September 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides017.jpg)

What an extraordinary picture of QE2's fabulous bow!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 29, 2020, 10:27 PM
This is one of my favourite photos that I remember from the slide show that Rob done last year.

The clock tower between the crane and the chimney on the left of the picture... is that the town hall where we had the 50th "do" a couple of Septembers ago?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 30, 2020, 06:53 AM
The clock tower between the crane and the chimney on the left of the picture... is that the town hall where we had the 50th "do" a couple of Septembers ago?

Yes!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 30, 2020, 12:44 PM

This is one of my favourite photos that I remember from the slide show that Rob done last year...

Imagine my reaction that day, when I held the mystery slide up to my lounge window, and saw that tiny image shining back at me.  Then hitting the scan button, and seeing it appear in all its glory on my big computer monitor.  I love it, it tells an entire QE2 Story all on its own.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Jan 30, 2020, 04:11 PM
Spectacular photo looking up at QE2's bow !   :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 04, 2020, 04:03 PM
I have added 3 more slides - each of which is lovely - from November 1967 (best guess based on markings on the slides themselves).

The next slides  I will upload, jump to May 1968.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Feb 04, 2020, 06:41 PM
I have added 3 more slides - each of which is lovely - from November 1967 (best guess based on markings on the slides themselves).

Photos below, with Rob's titles and descriptions. All of them can be seen in this album :

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207

QE2 in Clydebank fitting out basin, November 1967 approx - Bow
Shot of QE2 bow-on in the fitting out basin

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QE2 in Clydebank fitting out basin, November 1967 approx - Starboard Side
The launch gear as shown in a previous photo

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides047_Nov_67.jpg)

QE2 in Clydebank fitting out basin, November 1967 approx - Front three quarters
I love this shot, because until recently, you could stand in that exact spot and imagine her sitting there. The foreground was roughly the same as late as 2019, not sure what its like now though (they're building a supermarket...)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides033_Nov_67.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Feb 04, 2020, 06:42 PM
Doesn't she look spanking new? Quite amazing!

And there too is the slot for the bow anchor which was later covered over.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Feb 05, 2020, 01:54 PM
Brilliant Isabelle, these pictures are absolutely amazing, thanks for posting this selection of the photos that Rob has put in the gallery album. 

One of the photos above show the launch gear after the launch.  Another photo showing the launch gear is the one I have posted below, which I think is a very powerful picture with a story to tell!

You see the two old men beside the launch gear.  They look like two wise old men of shipbuilding, they probably had worked in the Yard since they were young and knew all there was to know about their trade.  Today men of their age would probably be retired.  Who are they?  I remember saying at the photo slide show event that Rob should give the photo to the Clydebank local paper to see if anyone recognises them. 

Thanks again Rob for rescuing the slides and thanks Isabelle for keeping us aware of this fantastic collection of pictures. 

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides026.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Feb 05, 2020, 02:34 PM
Just amazing photographs !  And what a treasure to have these photos of QE2's build.  It would indeed be interesting to learn who the two older gentlemen are.  QE2 is just gorgeous from any angle, but her bow is indeed just the best !   :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Jane Crosthwaite on Feb 23, 2020, 01:15 PM
That person could almost be Ronnie Bateson!

Bit late to the party here as only just seen this thread but can confirm it is not dad (Ronnie Bateson) - shame! 
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Feb 29, 2020, 07:17 PM
Here are a few more photos, from Rob's collection for the Forum, all of them of QE2 under construction in Clydebank, September 1967.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides016.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides019_fill_crop.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides018_fill.jpg)

Fascinating to see the big yellow plate with the figure 736! And amazing to see those huge supports for her hull...


Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 10, 2020, 11:50 PM
QE2 under construction in Clydebank, September 1967.

Some more photos here, starting with her beautiful bow :

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides020.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides019_fill.jpg)

And her side, with its gleaming fresh colours :

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides021.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Ian Davies on Mar 14, 2020, 08:34 AM
Thank you for sharing these, They really give you the sense of scale and a new appreciation of the whole undertaking.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Mar 15, 2020, 10:02 PM
Many thanks for sharing. These views of QE2 are spectacular !  :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 25, 2020, 09:35 PM
Here are some more of the "unseen" photos of QE2 being built :

QE2 under construction in Clydebank, September 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides022_rotate_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides022_fill.jpg)

And what looks like a rainy day photo :

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides023.jpg)

I am always astonished by all the machinery and supports, and all the activities that went on simultaneously, in close co-ordination. Running a shipyard is a real miracle!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Mar 25, 2020, 11:39 PM
These are great, Isabelle, and many thanks for posting !

With what appears to be acetylene torch sparks, is something being attached or taken off the hull ?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 30, 2020, 06:17 PM
I have just added another batch of the "QE2 Unseen" slides into the gallery, covering around the time of May 1968.

LINK TO THE GALLERY ALBUM (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)

Some of them are real stunners, and were amongst my favourite as they appeared during the scanning process.

Here's a couple of favourites :-

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(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides145_May_68.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides088_May_68_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides083_May_68_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides077_May_68.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides030.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides046_May_68.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Bob C. on Mar 30, 2020, 07:33 PM
These photos are magnificent.  I'm walking down memory lane seeing all the original spaces (or what will be the original spaces).
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Waverley on Mar 30, 2020, 09:18 PM
I agree. They are brilliant and a great photographic history of her construction
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Mar 31, 2020, 01:19 AM
Wonderful photos to see.  Just spectacular !  Thanks, Rob !
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Mar 31, 2020, 05:29 AM
Just wonderful! I particularly like the dynamic shots with the welding (previous post) and the photo looking aft down Boat Deck from what would become the "Bit beneath the Bridge", showing the prefabricated aluminium sections that would make up Sun and Signal decks going into place.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Mar 31, 2020, 10:11 AM
They are truly magnificent.
How many of you in 1969, would have thought that those bits of steel and aluminium, would mean so much to so many?
I still remember my time on board vividly, for the most part anyway, but the other day I was thinking that today, I would need one of you to show me around, Don't recognize half the places by dacor anyway!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 09, 2020, 08:54 PM
In honour of this evening's chat, I have uploaded the next set of slides, this time from June 1968 (approximately).  Again some of these are my favourites, with little moments captured - the delivery van in front of QE2's massive bow, the workers apparently taking a break high up top, and also on a scary looking railing at the bow.

The full size ones are in the album - LINK TO ALBUM HERE (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)

It goes without saying, all images are © The QE2 Story 2019-2020.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides073_Jun_68_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides071_Jun_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides068_Jun_68_fix1.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides067_Jun_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides063_Jun_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides049_Jun_68_str8_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides055_Jun_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides063_Jun_68_crop.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides076_Jun_68_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides048_Jun_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides087_Jun_68.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides339.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Apr 09, 2020, 09:57 PM
Rob - the "unknown hovercraft" is an SRN6 and it looks to be at Southampton; it's in Seaspeed livery so it's arriving from Cowes; this is the fast service that later passed to Red funnel with their "Sheerwater" class hydrofoils and subsequently the present Red Jet operation.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Apr 10, 2020, 12:27 AM
Great slides, Rob !  What a treasure to have !  :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Apr 10, 2020, 09:33 AM
My favourite photo is this one showing the davits: 

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides063_Jun_68.jpg)

What is your favourite photo from the selection that Rob has posted above and in the album  (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Bob C. on Apr 10, 2020, 02:14 PM
This one is of great interest to me.  Reading Potter and Frost's QE2 The Authorised Story, I was always intrigued with the photo of the Queen looking at the launch mechanism and wondered how it worked.  I know the mechanics involved in a launch but still don't understand the sequence.   The below slide of the empty slipway makes me wonder even more.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Apr 10, 2020, 04:02 PM
As a former Deck Engineer....one thing strikes me, in fact sticks out like a sore thumb!! Why were the boats put up on the davits when they had not even had their first topcoat of paint?
Painting round all those wires and blocks would take twice as long!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Bob C. on Apr 10, 2020, 04:35 PM
As a former Deck Engineer....one thing strikes me, in fact sticks out like a sore thumb!! Why were the boats put up on the davits when they had not even had their first topcoat of paint?
Painting round all those wires and blocks would take twice as long!

Noticed that and whole-heartedly agree.  Seems bass ackwards.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 16, 2020, 08:52 PM
And here's tonights uploads.  These are from around December 1968, although it was hard to be definite.

As always - the gallery with full quality images is here - https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides032_Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides032_Dec_68_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides035__Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides035__Dec_68_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides038_Dec_68_str8.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides042_Dec_68_str8.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides042_Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides038_Dec_68.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Bob C. on Apr 21, 2020, 02:30 PM
When is the next batch being posted?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Apr 21, 2020, 11:19 PM
When is the next batch being posted?

Here you are, Bob! These are from the Gallery, continuing from where I left off last time.

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207

QE2 under construction in Clydebank, September 1967

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides024.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides025.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides026.jpg)

And wouldn't it be wonderful if we knew who these two gentlemen were!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Waverley on Apr 21, 2020, 11:35 PM
Isabelle.
Could this photo be sent to a Clydebank local newspaper to see if anyone can recognise these two workers and their names?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Apr 22, 2020, 12:15 AM
Isabelle.
Could this photo be sent to a Clydebank local newspaper to see if anyone can recognise these two workers and their names?

That would be for others to decide and act upon... but a good idea!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Apr 22, 2020, 09:42 AM
Isabelle.
Could this photo be sent to a Clydebank local newspaper to see if anyone can recognise these two workers and their names?

I can send the picture to the editor of the Clydebank Post, I had suggested doing this at the slide show last year, but never got around to sending the picture. Thanks for the reminder Robert. 
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Apr 22, 2020, 09:46 AM
I can send the picture to the editor of the Clydebank Post, I had suggested doing this at the slide show last year, but never got around to sending the picture. Thanks for the reminder Robert.

I have just checked whether there are any other pictures with clearly visible people on them, but there don't seem to be any. It would be great if someone could identify them! And another way of showing the readers of the Clydebank Post that we have not forgotten their greatest ship :) .
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Apr 22, 2020, 10:03 AM
I have just checked whether there are any other pictures with clearly visible people on them, but there don't seem to be any. It would be great if someone could identify them! And another way of showing the readers of the Clydebank Post that we have not forgotten their greatest ship :) .

Thanks for check for other photos with people.  I have sent an email to Clydebank Post, copied to admin.  Hope they run a story with the picture of the two men.   
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Waverley on Apr 22, 2020, 10:14 AM
Lynda. That would be great if the Clydebank Post ran a story with this photo. It will be good if the two workers can be identified
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 22, 2020, 12:54 PM
When is the next batch being posted?

I'm doing another lot tomorrow, I've been doing them before our zoom call in case anyone wanted to discuss them.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Apr 23, 2020, 11:50 AM
Interesting to see how small QE2's bulbous bow is compared to QM2. Reminds me of ss France (ss Norway) which had a similarly small bulb.

Guess it was the early days of this design.

That bow flair just stops me in my tracks. We've all seen the photos that prove it did its job during heavy weather too!!!
Well seeing Dr Payne used that same feature albeit on a larger scale for QM2!

Gav
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: skilly56 on Apr 23, 2020, 03:53 PM
A great set of photos, especially those two workers with the trigger release mechanism schematic beautifully painted on the steelwork behind them.

Thanks for posting.
Skilly
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 23, 2020, 08:19 PM
Here's tonight's slides, in advance of our Zoom chat a bit later on.

As usual, we have to guess when exactly they're from, but I think November/December 1968.

We believe our man (who created the slides) worked for Tannoy, as there are a number of slides like the first two within the box.  The shot of the Upper Deck (?) shows her looking unfinished - but nearly finished.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides140_Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides127_Glasgow_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides070_Dec68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides075_Dec_68.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides109.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides069_Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides075_Dec_68_850px.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides064_Dec_68.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides054_Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides045_str8.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides186_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides186.jpg)

FULL LINK TO THE GALLERY IS HERE (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Apr 23, 2020, 08:34 PM
Here's tonight's slides, in advance of our Zoom chat a bit later on.

As usual, we have to guess when exactly they're from, but I think November/December 1968.

We believe our man (who created the slides) worked for Tannoy, as there are a number of slides like the first two within the box.  The shot of the Upper Deck (?) shows her looking unfinished - but nearly finished.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides140_Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides127_Glasgow_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides070_Dec68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides075_Dec_68.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides109.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides069_Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides075_Dec_68_850px.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides064_Dec_68.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides054_Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides045_str8.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides186_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides186.jpg)

FULL LINK TO THE GALLERY IS HERE (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)

Wonderful!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 30, 2020, 05:31 PM
Here are the rest of the "December 1968" slide set which are presumed to be taken in and around the Clyde

As always, the link to the full album is here (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides331.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides292_Dec_68_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides198_Dec_68_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides200_Jan_69_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides211_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides189_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides113.jpg)(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides340.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on May 01, 2020, 01:52 AM
These slides are just awesome ! A treasure trove ! Many thanks, Rob !  :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 07, 2020, 07:32 PM
Here are this week's slide uploads to the gallery album.

The slides in the box were various types, so you could see when he'd got a set developed at the same time.  I believe these slides are from the December 20th 1968 to Jan 2nd 1969 Trial Voyage - more will be revealed of this trial voyage in subsequent uploads.

Some mysteries within the slides, as you'll see! 
- What event was that in, presumably, the theatre? 
- What is that space with all the clutter and why did he take a photo of it? 
- Why does the Double Down room still have its wee sign up (for doing tours in Clydebank, I presume?)
- Who is the entertainer with the kids?

As always, here's the link to the full album (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides095.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides093.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides092.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides089.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides058.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides090_xmas_68_pools.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides040_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides034_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides039_fill.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides096.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides036__Dec_68.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides101.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides102.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides110.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on May 07, 2020, 11:36 PM
The event in the theatre, Commodor Bil, and Jack Marland.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 08, 2020, 08:43 AM
The event in the theatre, Commodor Bil, and Jack Marland.

Thanks Rod!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 14, 2020, 08:54 PM
More slides just added to the gallery (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)

Will update this post with the thumbnails shortly !

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides148.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides146.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides138_str8.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides137.jpg)
(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides141.jpg)(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides136.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides134.jpg)(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides131.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides122.jpg) (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides128.jpg)(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides124_xmas_entertainers.jpg)(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides114.jpg)
(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides149_fill.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 15, 2020, 09:48 AM
Brilliant photos that beg the question - who are the people?

This young man singing in the Double Down room is in several pictures - was he one of the entertainment team?

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides114.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides138_str8.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides146.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 27, 2020, 06:08 PM
Following on from Waverley's suggestion to send this photo to the Clydebank local paper, I sent this photo along with some of Brian Price picture where we could clearly see the faces of workers.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides026.jpg)

I am delighted to report that Tristan, the Chief Reporter has ran an article this week - lets hope someone recognises some of the people and contact the newslpaper with information.

Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Waverley on May 27, 2020, 06:14 PM
That’s brilliant Lynda. It would be great if someone is able to identify the two workers. Great too seeing the QE2 in the press again
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 28, 2020, 02:04 PM
You can find the Clydebank Post article by following this link (https://www.clydebankpost.co.uk/news/18480763.hard-work-building-qe2/)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on May 28, 2020, 11:51 PM
Great, Lynda ! And agreed that it is great to see QE2 in print ! I hope we can get an answer to who those in the photos are !  :)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 29, 2020, 06:11 PM
I just added a whole bunch more slide uploads to our album (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207).

They all relate to the QE2 Technical Trials -- 23 December 1968 to 2 January 1969 (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php?topic=3802.0)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 30, 2020, 11:51 AM
QE2 limps home to the world's press in Southampton from her Technical Trials.

First photo - travelling on one propellor.

Second photo - arriving into Southampton.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides194_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides202.jpg)

Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on May 30, 2020, 02:28 PM
Where this photo (attached below, please excuse the reflections!) was taken a few moments later, her maiden arrival into Southampton and into (the old) Ocean Terminal. I gather Vosper Thornycroft (from their nearby yard at Woolston, just the other side of the River Itchen) were then drafted in to help fix her turbines and help complete her final fitting out of which there was plenty left to do.

In the background of the second photo Rob has posted, I spy Canberra, perhaps Uganda, Windsor Castle, and two of the laid up Saxonia quartet that went on to become Sitmar ships judging by the light coloured funnels they are sporting and that one of the pair kept her dark Cunard hull colours whilst laid up in Southampton at least longer than her sister from seeing other photos, in the distance from where City Terminal is these days all the way down to Mayflower Terminal (the Western Docks?).
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Michael Gallagher on May 30, 2020, 11:20 PM
Thomas

You are correct re: Canberra and the 'new' Sitmar ships Fairland (to become Fairsea) and Fairwind (the former Cunarders Carinthia and Sylvania).

What you think is Uganda is Safmarine's S A Oranje and I don't think it is Windsor Castle. I think the built up superstructure forward of the funnel (where the Cinema was added) is the Reina del Mar.

Michael
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Michael Gallagher on May 30, 2020, 11:23 PM
Oh and that helicopter we see in the Southampton arrival shot may have been the first helicopter to have touched down on QE2. The first touchdown happened that day and the image courtesy of Getty.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 11, 2020, 07:26 PM
Can anyone name this ship?

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=8339

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=8382

I have also just uploaded another fascinating batch of photos from the December 1968 to January 1969 Technical Trials to the QE2 Story Slides Collection album (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207).
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Jun 11, 2020, 08:16 PM
That looks like RMS Andes the most to me, she'd already been converted to cruising by 1969 and was given a white hull in the process. The buff but not quite the same as P&O funnel colour also matches.

Edit: It's not RMS Andes as the ship in the photo has a signal mast and different derrick arrangement on her foredeck. Perhaps one of the similar looking Pacific Steam Navigation Company ships of the time?

Found the ship I think...

Elder Dempster's MV Aureol matches. She would go on to be bought by John Latsis who also bought RMS Windsor Castle.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Jun 11, 2020, 10:32 PM
Yes it’s the Aureol.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 12, 2020, 06:37 PM
There is an excellent photo here in the slide collection, showing the khaki paint effect on the boat deck, and the davits (the split in the paint colour can be seen on the right).

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pid=8392#top_display_media
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 05, 2020, 06:10 PM
I have just uploaded a whole lot more slides too many to list here.

However I wanted to pick out some favourites.

The last photo intrigues me - it shows the outdoor bar - which I think is where the Pavillion was in later years - and it looks great - if you go into the gallery you can enlarge it and see more detail.  I've never seen photos of this area as original, at night like this.

All the photos are here - https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207



(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides318_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides219_fill.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides214.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_QE2-Slides306_fill.jpg)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Oct 22, 2020, 05:13 PM
I have just uploaded a number of new photos to the album (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207), including photos like these.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides177.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides213.jpg)

Link to the full album (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207)
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 25, 2021, 06:12 PM
Hi all,

I've just added another set of slides to the album and there are some fascinating wee snippets of life on board in April 1969.

I don't have time just now to put proper titles in, I'll come back to do that, but for now they're just titled "April 1969".

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207

Enjoy!

- Rob
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: pete cain on Feb 25, 2021, 07:00 PM
Gobsmacking, just lovely, a brand new QE2, a joy to behold in these horrid times (have I said enough),
beautiful lady with so much in front of her, thanks Rob.....
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Feb 25, 2021, 08:20 PM
Gobsmacking, just lovely, a brand new QE2, a joy to behold in these horrid times (have I said enough),
beautiful lady with so much in front of her, thanks Rob.....

I totally agree! And I wonder whether some of our Forum members, who were among the earliest travellers on board, would recognise themselves in these photos. They might be able to add to the stories behind these pictures.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 26, 2021, 02:46 AM
Picture 1, Second Electrician George Spicer is on the left, Chief (First) Electrician is the Officer on the right Bill Blood. Was Bill Blood's last ship I believe he retired in 1972. George went on to become "The Boss Leccie"
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 26, 2021, 02:48 AM
Picture 13. Notice NO trapshooting screens on the back end.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 26, 2021, 02:53 AM
Picture 22 On the left  Hughie Cameroon 3rd Electrician in picture later to be come Boss Leccie after re-engining.
Other person is Bryan Carlile who became Boss Leccie.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 26, 2021, 03:02 AM
Pic 45 Brian Carlile., as is pic 46.
Pic 56. That furniture had gone by the time I got there in 71.
Pic 107 Commodore Bil Warwick.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 26, 2021, 03:13 AM
Pic 45 Brian Carlile., as is pic 46.
Pic 56. That furniture had gone by the time I got there in 71.
Pic 107 Commodore Bil Warwick.
Pic 111 Bil Warwick again.
pic 118 Bil Warwick, I don't know, next ti I don't know is Jack Marland Chief Engineer.
Pic  134 Don't know any of the people, but venue is the Sound Reproduction Room (SRE Room) located on 3 deck.
Pic 134, same place.
It always makes me wonder when I see pictures like this, why on earth did they not put the red on the chimney from the get go?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 26, 2021, 11:59 AM
Rod,

Your memories and names are absolutely priceless - thanks for taking the time to do this.

I've updated the relevant photos but I have some questions!

Hughie Cameron presumably, rather than Cameroon?   :)

Also do you think its Brian or Bryan and Carlile or Carlisle?   Brian Carlisle would be the most common spelling I suppose.  Would be awesome to track him down, he looks quite young there.


And Regarding the SRE room - FANTASTIC!  The chap that took the slides, and kept them, worked for Tannoy and we see in other slides this equipment being built ashore before being assembled on the ship.  I wonder what became of the SRE room in later years as componentry shrunk?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 26, 2021, 02:49 PM
Sorry Rob. Yes his name is Cameron a Scot. Cameroon is the way we pronounced his name because he didn't like it!
Interesting fact about Hughie.....although he was one of the electricians he was very, very wary of electricity! He used to wear gloves to change his flashlight batteries! Then, after re-engining he had to deal with 37,000 volts???
Regarding Brian Carlisle? You may well be right about the spelling.
I believe he died some years ago. He would have been in his early 50's in the pics. Very nice guy BTW! I had a lot of time for him, as I did Hughie. Hughie is on FB  can I send him some of these pics?
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 26, 2021, 02:52 PM
SRE was also the radio/television station and clock central where they advanced/retarded the clocks. (That was fun doing that!) Also a nice place to get a cuppa if you were in the area!
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 26, 2021, 02:55 PM
Sorry Rob. Yes his name is Cameron a Scot. Cameroon is the way we pronounced his name because he didn't like it!
Interesting fact about Hughie.....although he was one of the electricians he was very, very wary of electricity! He used to wear gloves to change his flashlight batteries!
Regarding Brian Carlisle? You may well be right about the spelling.
I believe he died some years ago. He would have been in his early 50's in the pics. Very nice guy BTW! I had a lot of time for him, as I did Hughie. Hughie is on FB  can I send him some of these pics?

Thanks Rod.   I thought Cameroon was just a typo, thats funny.

I'd love to know what Hughie remembers about these very early years, and if he recognises anyone else in the photos.  I still have quite a lot more to upload too.

Please don't send him the photos as copies - just send him this link - it will work for him directly - https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 26, 2021, 02:56 PM
Can someone with an original deckplan please pickout the SRE for us please?
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 26, 2021, 05:23 PM
Entrance was on 3 deck, portside between E & G stairs. It was a while back, but definitely 3 deck port.
Title: Re: "Unseen" slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Feb 26, 2021, 09:53 PM
SRE was also the radio/television station and clock central where they advanced/retarded the clocks. (That was fun doing that!) Also a nice place to get a cuppa if you were in the area!

Rod, in later years (at least 90s onwards) they seemed to change the clocks individually as shown in the 1992 French documentary. Was this central clock timing system more hassle than it was worth, and did it become such quite soon after her build?
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 27, 2021, 01:30 AM
Thomas, that may well be the case.
I do know that the original clock system was not particularly well liked by the SRE staff.
I did read somewhere, maybe on this forum that later on, clocks were changed manually. But it did take about 2 hours. It also wasn't particularly accurate.
 A clock would throw a wobbler and the Bureau, individual staff etc  would get many complaints.
I also noticed on here in a couple of pics that the clocks themselves had changed.
Michael?????????
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Feb 27, 2021, 03:02 AM
Another question, and please excuse my generational ignorance on this matter, but what was the main purpose of the Sound Reproduction Room, alongside it being the TV and Radio station onboard? What sound reproduction would they have been needing to do? Not Foley Artist work I presume?

It would be interesting to find out what became of the room through comparing deckplans or crew recollections, and to find out what the space is used for now even (if it's in use).
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 27, 2021, 10:02 AM
Another question, and please excuse my generational ignorance on this matter, but what was the main purpose of the Sound Reproduction Room, alongside it being the TV and Radio station onboard? What sound reproduction would they have been needing to do? Not Foley Artist work I presume?

It would be interesting to find out what became of the room through comparing deckplans or crew recollections, and to find out what the space is used for now even (if it's in use).

Each cabin had a wee entertainment station built into the bedside units with "radio," stations, I'm assuming they must have come from here.  Also did they do piped music in public areas at all originally?
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Feb 27, 2021, 10:25 AM
I can't find mention of the Sound Reproduction Room on any 1969 plans (top two images). Was this part of the Telephone Exchange? That is clear on the plans.

Over the years greater and more extensive use of television was made throughout QE2 and every cabin was fitted with a new 20-channel colour television in 1987 for the first time. The German company Grundig supplied the television sets and built a new TV Studio which was located by F Stairway on Three Deck and replaced the Telephone Exchange which had become a redundant facility when a new computer-supported automated telephone system was also installed in 1987. The TV Studio can be seen in image 3.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 27, 2021, 11:13 AM
On your last plan there, there's a skinny room to the left of the TV studio and to the right of the pantry... What's that?

This is ultra geeky stuff and i love it
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Feb 27, 2021, 11:50 AM
That third plan is dated December 2000 and it seems the thin room you refer to was added around then because it does not exist on late 1990s plans as seen here!
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Feb 27, 2021, 11:58 AM
Could it have been an additional passenger laundry facility, with the multiple shapes, particularly the squares representing the US type vertical washing machines etc etc? Having said that, maybe not as the noise would've disrupted things in the TV studio unless the TV studio was well sound insulated? The only other things I can think of could be extra storage space for TV equipment, an advanced control booth, or perhaps more likely a footage/video editing area separate from the photography areas elsewhere onboard? Maybe it's just an extra pantry but left unlabelled on those plans?
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 27, 2021, 01:54 PM
Inspired by Rod and his slide information, I've uploaded another batch of slides just now, still of April 1969.  There's some interesting ones there
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 27, 2021, 06:42 PM
I think that what Rob is looking at is a depiction of the amplifiers for the Tannoy speaker system. It was split up into zones, eg Boat deck ,outside stbd. Engine room, Public Rooms etc etc. built into the SRE Room, at a date after launch the "studio" where the daily Radio Show eg came from This started around the center of the room and went over to the port side. it was only about4'-5' wide, had 2 chairs, a double record deck, 8 track player and a casette player.After re-engining I have no idea what went on there. Michael it would have to have been part of the telephone exchange, although it was in existence in 1971.

 
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 27, 2021, 06:53 PM
To use Thomas' words "Another question, and please excuse my generational ignorance on this matter, but what was the main purpose of the Sound Reproduction Room, alongside it being the TV and Radio station onboard? What sound reproduction would they have been needing to do? Not Foley Artist work I presume?"
Excuse MY generational ignorance.

What on earth is Foley Artist work?
In my description I deliberately put in the bit about the 8-track to give you and idea of the era. At the time 8-tracks were very modern then.
The main purpose of the room was to house all the Tannoy equipment and later a lot of the tv equipment. It also housed the radio "studio" which was installed in the early 70's I believe.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Feb 28, 2021, 09:50 AM
Rob's early years slide pictures is attracting visitors to the forum.  We had an email in the admin mail box enquiring about the white Lido Deck furniture.

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since I was a young boy I have been interested in the old transatlantic ocean liners........
I have read some newer books and I am very pleased to see brilliant works. In one of these books "Ship Style" written by Philip Dawson and Bruce Peter there is a picture, which is showing the lido decks at the stern of QE2 from the earlier years. There are some fabulous white chairs and tables in a specific modern style. You can also see these chairs in many photos in the QE2 Story Slide Collection photo album on your QE2 Story home page (April 1969).
Do you happen to know if this furniture is a designer piece or the designer is unknown?
I would be very glad to hear from you.

I wrote to Bruce Peter to ask if he knew the designer and his response was as follows:
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"The furniture was, I believe, designed by James Gardiner, who was responsible for the whole outside decks. I found correspondence in the Design Archives at the University of Brighton about the deck furniture."

Does anyone have any more information on the Lido Deck furniture?
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Feb 28, 2021, 11:08 AM
What on earth is Foley Artist work?

https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-a-foley-artist/#:~:text=A%20Foley%20artist%20is%20a%20person%20who%20re-creates,to%20record%20sounds%20as%20they%20watch%20the%20film.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Feb 28, 2021, 01:53 PM
These images show the different types of outdoor seating QE2 offered on her aft Lido Decks.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Feb 28, 2021, 03:15 PM
All of those are alien to me apart from the blue cushions on the deck chairs.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 06, 2021, 07:05 PM
Hello QE2 fans.

I've just uploaded one of the last batches of slides from the collection.  The dates are unclear.  In some photos it looks like the middle windows of the lookout bar are plated over BUT is it possible its just the door to the hold in the way?

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides332.jpg)

There are some other great shots like this one

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides307_fill.jpg)

and this one...

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides297_str8_fill.jpg)

and we even get a look at the Double Up Bar

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides289_fill.jpg)

The tapestries in their original location

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides279.jpg)

In Southampton for one of the first times

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides263_fill.jpg)

What room is this?

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides228.jpg)

And isn't this lovely?

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides334_fill.jpg)

Even this tells a story... the room that disappeared, and a hulking great late 60s TV set!  The sunshine on the wood is nice.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides330.jpg)

and finally...

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides294_fill.jpg)

Is this the radio room?

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides178.jpg)

And how lovely to see this

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides185_fill.jpg)

Engine room

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides108_fill.jpg)

A visit to the bridge

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides115_fill.jpg)

A very early shot of a view that many of us took in later years

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_QE2-Slides125.jpg)

Enjoy!  As always the full link to the slides is here
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=207 where they are available in high quality


All Images Copyright © The QE2 Story
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Trevor Casey on Apr 06, 2021, 07:19 PM
Her original sixties look was so smart and stylish. Love it so much.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Apr 06, 2021, 07:20 PM
Hello QE2 fans.

I've just uploaded one of the last batches of slides from the collection.  The dates are unclear.  In some photos it looks like the middle windows of the lookout bar are plated over BUT is it possible its just the door to the hold in the way?

There is a single (or maybe two) window towards port side that also appears plated over in addition to the middle ones, and on closer inspection it doesn't look like the forward hold's hatch cover is blocking the others - in fact it looks as if the port side crane is lifting up the whole hatch cover for some reason - the starboard side crane doing something in the hold itself. Maybe this was during her layup in Southampton whilst the turbine issues were fixed and she was fully completed? I can't think of why some of the Lookout Bar windows would be plated/covered over at this stage unless perhaps the aluminium was already giving trouble around the window edges (as evident elsewhere today) and they hadn't yet got around to patching the corners of the windows - a bit of a long shot I know?

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What room is this?

This area looks like the Chart Room behind the Bridge, and specifically where the PA microphone is in that room if I had to guess.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Apr 06, 2021, 08:53 PM
Wonderful photos! We could have a discussion on each of them, each is fascinating in its own right. For a future zoom chat?
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Rod on Apr 07, 2021, 12:24 AM
Chart room and radio room.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Apr 07, 2021, 10:14 AM
Thanks Rob, Excellent photos of an early QE2.


One of the pictures looks like the QE2 radio room.  (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php?topic=9457.msg110210#msg110210)

If Willum or Roger are logged into the forum they may identify the equipment shown in the picture in relation to the room plan below.

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10596/normal_Radio_room_layout_4C_.jpg)

 





Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Bob C. on Apr 07, 2021, 11:11 AM
 Which slides are you referring to on the plated over windows in the Lookout Bar?  I don’t see anything unusual in any of the photos.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Apr 07, 2021, 12:07 PM
Which slides are you referring to on the plated over windows in the Lookout Bar?  I don’t see anything unusual in any of the photos.

The first slide, alongside at Ocean Terminal.
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Bob C. on Apr 07, 2021, 02:44 PM
The hatch is not readily evident from the photo but after saving it to my computer and zooming in, I can just make out the top edge of the hatch which is just above the line of the window tops (see photo).  For comparison, I included a few other photos of the open hatch and deck colors in QE2's 1969 configuration.  I found them on a website I've not seen before. Here is the link if interested. 

http://www.modelships.info/debrisfield/resources/qe2_1969_1972.html
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: June Ingram on Apr 08, 2021, 07:16 PM
Great photos ! Many thanks, Rob, for posting them ! They would indeed make a great Zoom topic. I especially like the engine room and bridge photos !  :)
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Apr 08, 2021, 08:04 PM
The hatch is not readily evident from the photo but after saving it to my computer and zooming in, I can just make out the top edge of the hatch which is just above the line of the window tops (see photo).  For comparison, I included a few other photos of the open hatch and deck colors in QE2's 1969 configuration.  I found them on a website I've not seen before. Here is the link if interested. 

http://www.modelships.info/debrisfield/resources/qe2_1969_1972.html

It seems the inside of the hatch cover was repainted from white by the time of that photo alongside in what seems to be Manhattan? Or maybe the hatch cover was lined with some kind of material, insulation or waterproofing?
Title: Re: Unseen slides of QE2 being built, fitted out, on trials and early years.
Post by: Bob C. on Apr 10, 2021, 03:18 AM
It could be the way the light is reflecting off of it.