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Title: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: bobso on Aug 17, 2011, 03:36 PM
All Right--who FORGOT TO HAND IN THEIR KEY-- ;D-- ;)-- :)--
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ELIZABETH-2-STATEROOM-KEY-TAG-2092-/350481561791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519a5438bf


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Title: QE2 cabin keys
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Aug 17, 2011, 04:32 PM
All Right--who FORGOT TO HAND IN THEIR KEY-- ;D-- ;)-- :)--

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ELIZABETH-2-STATEROOM-KEY-TAG-2092-/350481561791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519a5438bf

Definitely not me! I never saw a key like that, during the final decade of QE2's service. Would be interesting to know which era this key belonged to...

P.S. Would the QE2 really ever have had "rooms" rather than cabins or staterooms?
Title: QE2 cabin keys
Post by: bobso on Aug 17, 2011, 06:36 PM
In reply to Isabelle--maybe some crew member can answer that question---
Title: QE2 cabin keys
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Aug 17, 2011, 06:51 PM
Maybe i am wrong but that key does not belong to the QE2, i cant see a key ring without the Cunard logo.I have no knowleadge about such a key ring.Maybe Micheal can help.
Title: QE2 cabin keys
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Aug 17, 2011, 10:16 PM
I would have thought the key was a QE2 one. The lion rampant has only been widely used by Cunard in the last 20 or so years after having taken a long break. The lion was first used in the 1870s and then disappeared with the formation of Cunard White Star in 1934 and then rarely used  again until the 1980s / 1990s.

In 1997 / 1998 the lion was dropped in favour of a blue rectangle - I kid you not.

And then Carnival brought the lion back in 1999 complete with the St Edward Crown and the leaves which is the logo you see today.
Title: QE2 cabin keys
Post by: Rod on Aug 18, 2011, 02:43 AM
I do not recognize the key tag. However, the key appears to be the original keys to the pax cabins. What most pax did not know that in ...probably the early days, say up until the mid 70's that 1 pax key would fit many cabins in the area of their cabin. Mid 70's they went to the Trioving system where each cabin had its own key. With the system shown...file 2 parts off and it becamea master key for the WHOLE ship.
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Aug 18, 2011, 02:43 PM
In 1997 / 1998 the lion was dropped in favour of a blue rectangle - I kid you not.

Totally off topic, I know, but the blue rectangle?  What did this look like?
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Aug 18, 2011, 03:39 PM
Can you believe how naff this was...

Interesting though in the Cunard name lettering. This squarish red block lettering has been used since 1964 so it must make it one of the longest-lived global logos?
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Aug 18, 2011, 06:30 PM
Can you believe how naff this was...

Interesting though in the Cunard name lettering. This squarish red block lettering has been used since 1964 so it must make it one of the longest-lived global logos?

If I knew what "naff" meant I would tend to agree!  LOL.    ;)
...YES, I do remember this now!  Thanks, Michael.
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: cunardqueen on Aug 18, 2011, 08:47 PM
The scan below is the only one l have of QE2 cabin key (fobs)
Given the key fob and key for the one on ebay the key is obviously pre the yale locks

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ELIZABETH-2-STATEROOM-KEY-TAG-2092-/350481561791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519a5438bf
 
    (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ELIZABETH-2-STATEROOM-KEY-TAG-2092-/350481561791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519a5438bf)
So would this mean that its a very early key? and when were the yale locks actually fitted.

Note: Image not available. 

I always felt quite guilty about removing the actully key fob, However the key was always left behind.
Given that its a yale key for the cabins, you only need one master (GMK) key to open these locks. for what its worth to actually get a mater key copied is pretty difficult, and expensive.
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Aug 18, 2011, 08:52 PM
Here is another early cabin key, from an ebay sale already closed (scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page) :

http://tinyurl.com/cabin4079

Myles, your key fobs look much more stylish! I also have a key fob like the one on the right -- it broke and fell of my key while I was on board and was then replaced by the Purser's Office. A nice one, and I still have it somewhere, unrepaired -- but sadly, it does not say QE2...
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: Rod on Aug 18, 2011, 11:59 PM
Those are the ones that i recognize.....Please people put dates on when you got your souvenirs!.
All new keys were made on board. By the Carpenters, go figure, its metal, get the "wood butchers" to do it! Cabin staff had spare to every cabin in their Key cupboard. Tags were also numbered on board.
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys
Post by: Bob C. on Aug 19, 2011, 02:29 AM
I never saw a key like that, during the final decade of QE2's service. Would be interesting to know which era this key belonged to...

Here's a key from 1977 which had not changed since 1969.
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: bobso on Aug 19, 2011, 08:04 AM
 Here is a photo of a QE2 Keyring that i bought sometime ago--was it an actual keyring issued to the crew?--or is it simply a "souvenier" made by an unknown company?
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: Rod on Jan 09, 2012, 03:16 AM
Souvenir Bobso!
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: bobso on Jan 09, 2012, 06:15 AM
Thanks Rod-- i thought so but it only cost a few pence.
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: Adam Hodson on Apr 08, 2014, 04:29 PM
Which locks on cabin doors were used? The yale locks or the locks that are in the handle/room number plate?
Title: Re: QE2 cabin keys and locks
Post by: cunardqueen on Jul 03, 2017, 02:25 PM
There was always a certain amount of joy when you turned your QE2 key and heard the clunk of the lock.

These days with modern keycards you dont get the same effect sadly. Where l work we have a pretty old vingcard system which gives a very light card encoding onto the generic blank cards. the card also acts as a master switch for the room, pop your key into the slot in the room and it turns on the main electrics, a great money saving system, when the guests goes out for the day the lights, certain sockets all are switched off, which is all very well unless your charging a mobile phone.  It also allows me to use generally any keycard/ loyality card to be used to swipe as a master card allowing access all areas. Our system has the three light system when you insert the card into the lock, red light indicates card expired/not read, green you are good to enter and yellow, the lock batteries are very weak.

The light encoding also means they dont like Iphones and put the card in the same pocket as your phone and its usually wiped. l jokingly tend to advise keep them 6ft apart.

The Hotel Del Coronado in San Diego, a beautiful victorian hotel changed to the keycards and out went the lovely keys and key fobs and in came the cards, insert the card in your room lock and the motors gently whirr and your allowed into your room. Last year they doubled as luggage tags, which when l recieved my room cards and plastic strips in their beautiful folder l was advised they can be used after departure as luggage tags, well my eyes lit up,Two Hotel Del luggage tags. Fast forward the next day lm engaging in banter with one of the Guest Experience Managers and lm telling her the Del is causing me great anxiety when l decided to leave, that fact that even leaving will cause me anxiety, leaving such a beautiful resort, but this time when l leave l have to decide at some point which cases are to be blessed with these beautiful luggage tags, not only that but when the times comes to head back to the mother land l have six suitcases, my cabin bag and shoulder bag , so far from the new luggage tags making life very easy, for me l have to decide which two cases get the Del Treatment, she knows me from previous visits and enjoys the interaction, l know she enjoys the interaction, l resist throwing myself onthe floor for effect. we part company . Later that night l find in my room a set of ten of the individual room cards and tags also a few sets of the new range of in room toiletries (but thats really a whole new subject)     

Its always interesting to see how the various hotels present these cards (well it is for me anyway ) some hotels go over the top and present them in beautiful folders (rather like the Hotel Queen Mary )  and some places just give them out folded in a bit of paper.

On last years trip l took a chinese tour upto Frisco. On day two and after a very long drive and meal we were taken to our hotel,in what seemed the middle of nowhere, we were told stay on the coach the guide will get the room cards and drive us to our rooms...we were driven to our rooms a block of rooms at the outer reaches of the resort, we disembark, get our cases and find our rooms, it becomes very apparent our cards dont work, none of the cards work, the guide is confused and starts trying the cards, they still dont work, Its eventually sorted that the guide goes back to reception by bus, collects new cards and comes back, it transpires our cards hadnt been encoded and at 1am we settle into our rooms with calls preset for 6am...

I always as a rule tend to keep the room cards for the hotels, they make nice souvenirs. But l do still prefer the old keys and key fob.
Its also much easier to know who is in and who isnt in.   
Title: QE2 Cabin keys and locks
Post by: Rod on Apr 07, 2018, 08:19 PM
When I joined Sept 71 there were definitely door locks on the cabin door "Yale" type on all Staff doors, mortise on all pax doors, with the associated 4 inch long key!
This would be great, but designers decided, to save a it of money, to NOT break down the keyed sections as much as they could. This meant that instead of having 100 different keys for 100 different rooms you had 5 or 10 different keys for 100 different rooms!  One key, asgiventoaguest at checkin would open between 10 and 50 guest room doors........in the same area!!!!!  File off ONE tab/tang on the key anditbecame a grand master!!
 This was soon discovered by the thieves and eventually a Norwegian?  "Trioving" I believe was put in with 1 different key/room.
InstalledT seabyBill Baileyand Crew.
Title: Re: QE2 Cabin keys and locks
Post by: CasinoChris on Apr 08, 2018, 02:39 PM
Whilst working on the Vistafjord as Casino Staff we were given a key to the forward passenger launderette so we could use it in off hours......soon discovered that this was a 'master' key, very handy for late night pantry raids!!!!
Title: Re: QE2 Cabin keys and locks
Post by: cunardqueen on Apr 09, 2018, 09:35 PM
And when you put your key in your lock for the very last time and hear the clunk and realise you will never do that again ...
Title: Re: QE2 Cabin keys and locks
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 09, 2018, 09:37 PM
And when you put your key in your lock for the very last time and hear the clunk and realise you will never do that again ...

I stepped through that door, 2.5 years later, on your behalf. Scott unlocked it especially for me.
Title: Re: QE2 Cabin keys and locks
Post by: cunardqueen on Apr 09, 2018, 09:46 PM
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   I stepped through that door, 2.5 years later, on your behalf. Scott unlocked it especially for me. 

It was 4028 you stepped through, and im forever grateful  :)

i had a final peek on Nov 11th thanks to an obliging member of housekeeping. The memories of some 22 years earlier came flooding back.