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Title: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 17, 2009, 03:52 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1162681/Cunard-unveils-plans-365m-Queen-Elizabeth-heralds-return-golden-age-ocean-liners.html


The photos etc in this link show why The Queen Elizabeth 2 continues to be in a class of her own, still!
The finest of all.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 17, 2009, 04:41 PM
These photos are entirely sufficient to put me off. The article does nothing to change that.
I am not at all surprised that there are no exterior pictures of the new ship.

Here is the Cunard press release :

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cunard-Line-Limited-962078.html

If you click into the link at the bottom and use the login and password provided, you can get some photos of Queen Elizabeth (not the first, but the future one) as well as of Queen Mary (the first), QM2, QV and QE2. The latter is also the main picture at the top of the page. Cunard's are still using her to entice passengers into the other ships...  grrrrrrrh    >:(

If only they had called the new ship anything else... why add insult to injury ???  ?

Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 17, 2009, 10:15 PM
Awful.

Absolutely awful.

Significantly worse than expected, and I wasn't expecting much after QV.

An American's view of olde-England/Titanic on sea.

The Yacht Club doesn't look a patch on QE2's clever design.

The part where they say its a successor to QE2 is the worst bit - SHE IS NOT - thats QM2.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 18, 2009, 09:27 AM
They've posted my comment :)
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 18, 2009, 12:03 PM


Hi Everyone!

Rob's Comment will need lots of clicks on the green arrow to 'rate' it very highly
So will any other Forum member's comment, for that matter!!!


For Good Measure - here's the link again!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1162681/Cunard-unveils-plans-365m-Queen-Elizabeth-heralds-return-golden-age-ocean-liners.html
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 18, 2009, 07:07 PM
They've posted my comment :)

You've obviously said something that pleased the Daily Mail   8)
I sent in mine this morning, but it's still not there... did not pass muster...  :(
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 18, 2009, 07:14 PM
I sent in mine this morning, but it's still not there... did not pass muster...  :(

I find that being controversial and sounding a bit like a nutter helps, you should try it sometime!  :P  :o
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 18, 2009, 07:23 PM
I find that being controversial and sounding a bit like a nutter helps, you should try it sometime!  :P  :o

Reason I'm waiting with bated breath is because I'm expecting lots of lovely red negative votes...! If my comment appears too late, there'll be no one left to read, then vote... and I shall never know how many I might have made  :-\

Of course, now I'm tempted to be even more controversial... but I cannot get my comment back  >:( ... Yes, total nutter would have been the right approach... I'll try again next time!  ;D
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Waverley on Mar 18, 2009, 09:05 PM
I received a glossy pamplet from Cunard this morning in the post and further information today by e-mail regarding the maiden voyage for this new ship.

I heard reports from other passengers who had travelled on the Queen Victoria that it was prone to rolling in rough conditions.  It that case the new Games Deck with croquet and bowls should be interesting on the Queen Elizabeth.

I think that the design of this new liner should have been better, not a copy of the QV and something which was unique. It had to be able to replace the QE2 and once again hold the title of being the most recognised ship in the world.  This one will not.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 18, 2009, 10:19 PM
I think that the design of this new liner should have been better, not a copy of the QV and something which was unique. It had to be able to replace the QE2 and once again hold the title of being the most recognised ship in the world.  This one will not.

Thats the QM2 - completely unique, a replacement for QE2, and surely now the most recognised ship in the world - or will be in time.  Don't let anyone tell you that QE'3' is a replacement for QE2 (or QE1!).
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 18, 2009, 11:53 PM
I'm sure by now you are all aware that Cunard have now added Queen Elizabeth to their website? Includes deck-plans, photo gallery etc.

Alistair's blog (www.wearecunard.com) also mentions it - including info that the new Queen Elizabeth will include a Yacht Club in a tribute to the QE2.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 19, 2009, 12:02 AM




Will it really be called 'The Yacht Club'?

'Ours' was unique!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Ocean Liner Fanatic on Mar 19, 2009, 03:24 AM




Will it really be called 'The Yacht Club'?

'Ours' was unique!
Yes there will be a Yacht Club aboard the new Queen Elizabeth.That said the new Queen Elizabeth will not be anything special.She is just another Vista Queen just like the Queen Victoria.Cunard/Carnival Corp. should have done it the right way and design the Queen Victoria and the new Queen Elizabeth to be Panamax versions of the QM2.But they did it the wrong way and both the QV and the new QE are designed by using the Vista Class Cruise Ship design which is really a Holland-America design NOT a Cunard design.    :(     Regards,Jerry
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Mar 19, 2009, 07:32 AM
I aM really NOT impressed, this is Carnival's take on British taste, a cross between Titanic on speed (drugs) and a bad imitation of a tawdry Art-deco moviehouse run to seed. UGH, and they DARE to give this the name Elizabeth. I only hope the reality is not so bad as the artist's renditions. The ship really could be called Queen Berengaria, after the not-so-popular ex-German ship which replaced the Lusitania. And if Carnival ever DARE call one of their cruise ships by a historical Cunard name like Mauretania or Aquitania or even Caronia, I think I shall scream. This is just another Carnivorious Vista
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 19, 2009, 08:40 AM
Another?

Curious to note that this presentation (Carol Marlow) arrived at the same time a gloomy business report about the luxury end of cruising by Reuters this morning!

http://www.cunard.co.uk/qelaunch/
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 20, 2009, 12:47 PM




http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article5939547.ece?openComment=true


An interesting slant?!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: KEV on Mar 20, 2009, 06:52 PM
I too waited with baited breath for the glossy to fall through the door and I have to say the computer simulations don't do any favours for me so far. QE2 was unique,refreshing and  cutting edge when she was launched and these images are all a bit brown retro and old time music hall to me.Hopefully there's some more individual interior design  stuff in other areas to balance the environment. She's obviously based on similar designs that have been coming out over recent times so will never have the same impact at launch as QE2. Having said that if I had the money I would sail on any of the new Queens and I wish her well.Time will tell how she's loved in her own way
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Dr. Edmund Carus on Mar 21, 2009, 09:03 PM
Hello again. Oh what a mess! The "new" QE is truly awful - gawdy, bland with absolutely no taste!

Cheers!
Title: The New QE
Post by: caledonia on Mar 26, 2009, 01:11 PM
Just out of interest has any body received the publicity material from Cunard re the new QE and has anbody registered their interest in one of the first 6 voyages that have been announced. I have taken the plunge and registered for the 3rd one to the Med etc.
What are your thoughts on her from what has been announced ? - she looks like she is going to be an enlarged QV.
Title: Re: The New QE
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 26, 2009, 05:32 PM


Hello!

You'll find out more on about the New QE in the Virtual Chart Room
under Another Queen Elizabeth!

Here's the link!

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,299.0.html
Title: Re: The New QE
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 26, 2009, 07:01 PM
I have registered my interest for one of the voyages for the Queen Elizabeth. In a letter from my travel agent Cunard have moved the goalposts with the bookings and introduced the famous fluid pricing in the maiden sailings. In a nut shell as the bookings fill up the fares will increase in 5% increments upto a miximum of 30% and this they expect to happen every few minutes over the 20 minutes that they estimate the voyages will take to sell out.
 The same pricing policy was in place with the final voyages of QE2.
For some reason lm more interested in this ship than the QM2 or the QV, at the moment l couldnt give two hoots about them.
Title: Re: The New QE
Post by: highlander0108 on Mar 26, 2009, 10:17 PM
I have registered my interest for one of the voyages for the Queen Elizabeth. In a letter from my travel agent Cunard have moved the goalposts with the bookings and introduced the famous fluid pricing in the maiden sailings. In a nut shell as the bookings fill up the fares will increase in 5% increments upto a miximum of 30% and this they expect to happen every few minutes over the 20 minutes that they estimate the voyages will take to sell out.
 The same pricing policy was in place with the final voyages of QE2.
For some reason lm more interested in this ship than the QM2 or the QV, at the moment l couldnt give two hoots about them.

I am shocked. :o  Must be smitten with the name Myles.  ;) I would be interested in the maiden transatlantic crossing, whenever that will be, but I am not sure which ship I'd rather be on.  My sneaking suspicion is that there will be a tandem crossing with QM2 in the schedule for Cunard to maximize exposure with the press.  Somehow seeing two nearly identical ships crossing together, if they go with QV, is not appealing at all to me.  For that matter, why don't they have all three cross together for another first......
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Mar 27, 2009, 07:19 AM
I must admit I laughed at the Times writer saying he'd rather swim behind the ship than travel in her. And If I'm FORCED to go Carnicunard, I'd pick the Mary. As Rob has said she IS an Atlantic liner, not a Vista-class wannabe.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Apr 01, 2009, 08:21 PM
Could this be an April Fool story?

Quote
Apr 01, 2009 11:54 ET
Fastest Selling Voyage in Cunard History
Queen Elizabeth Maiden Voyage sells out faster than QE2 Final Voyage

LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM--(Marketwire - April 1, 2009) - The October 2010 Maiden Voyage for Cunard's new ocean liner Queen Elizabeth, which was placed on worldwide sale to past guests at 1300 hours BST today, Wednesday 1 April, sold out in an amazing 29 minutes 14 seconds - easily making this the fastest selling voyage in Cunard's 170-year history. In fact this voyage sold out quicker, and involved more guests, than QE2's Final Voyage when it went on sale in June 2007 setting a record then of 36 minutes.

Something less than generous in me hopes that it is...  :(     More here :

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cunard-Line-Limited-969235.html
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Apr 01, 2009, 09:26 PM
I heard a rumor from a travel agent friend of mine (after being on hold with Cunard for an hour and getting no tickets for his clients) that it may be a marketing ploy.  And then, magicallly all the waitlisted folks will suddenly get rooms.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Apr 01, 2009, 10:18 PM
And then he sent me this ....   :(

http://content.cunard.com/announce/?mMBR0EbTJcNKZuYdZ-3bmbAvzqGcSLRvm


N E W S


Queen Elizabeth Maiden Voyage Sells Out Faster than QE2 Final Voyage

Fastest Selling Voyage in Cunard Line History

April 1, 2009 -- The October 2010 Maiden Voyage for Cunard’s new ocean liner Queen Elizabeth, which was placed on worldwide sale to past guests at 8:00 a.m. today, sold out in a record 29 minutes – easily making this the fastest selling voyage in Cunard’s 170-year history. In fact, this voyage sold out quicker involving more guests than QE2’s Final Voyage when it set a previous Cunard sell-out record of 36 minutes in June 2007.

More than half of Queen Elizabeth’s remaining Maiden Season, comprising six voyages from October to December 2010, was sold within the first two hours.

“This is an impressive record set by what will be an impressive ship and speaks volumes about the Cunard brand as well as for the resilience of the cruise sector as a whole in these challenging times,” said Carol Marlow, president and managing director of Cunard Line. “It is also very encouraging to see the level of interest in Queen Elizabeth coming from all our international markets, with bookings in the UK, US and Germany particularly strong. I urge our travel partners and those guests who have not yet booked to move fast in order to secure their place in history on Queen Elizabeth during her maiden season,” added Marlow.

One of the youngest fleets in the industry, Cunard’s famous state-of-the-art award-winning vessels Queen Mary 2 and Queen Victoria will be joined by Queen Elizabeth, and all three will take Cunard’s 170 years of history, heritage, impeccable service and tradition far into the 21st Century. This is a legacy recognized by Cunard guests, with up to 97% saying they will recommend Cunard to a friend and 98% saying they will return.

Queen Elizabeth will feature the unique Cunard traditions linking her with her sisters Queen Mary 2 and Queen Victoria and their predecessors, along with some exciting features that will give the vessel her own style and personality, plus all the modern day luxuries Cunard’s guests have come to expect.

Named after the first Queen Elizabeth, one of Cunard’s greatest ships, the new Queen Elizabeth will reflect her predecessor in interior grandeur, décor and style, but with a modern twist. From the outside, her distinctive black and red livery will hint at an experience that differentiates a Cunard liner from a modern-day cruise ship. This will be most evident in the ship’s adherence to liner traditions, with elegant double and triple height public rooms on a grand scale, luxuriously endowed with rich wood paneling, intricate mosaics, gleaming chandeliers and cool marbles. Art Deco features will pay homage to the original Queen Elizabeth and will allow the new ship to reflect a more civilized era of travel.

Queen Elizabeth’s maiden 2010 season will consist of six voyages, calling on 32 distinct ports in 18 countries. Her Maiden Voyage, now sold out, will depart from Cunard’s homeport of Southampton on October 12, 2010, en route to the Atlantic Isles.

The ship will then embark on five celebratory inaugural voyages, for which space is still available but selling fast:

Mediterranean Premiere – A 14-day voyage departing Southampton on 25 October 2010 with maiden calls to Barcelona, Monte Carlo, Florence/Pisa (Livorno), Rome (Civitavecchia), Naples (for Capri and Pompeii), Cartagena and Gibraltar. Fares start from $2,795 per person.

Aegean Introduction – An 18-day voyage departing Southampton on 8 November 2010 calling on Malaga (for Granada), Malta (Valletta), Venice, Dubrovnik, Kusadasi (for Ephesus), Athens (Piraeus) and Alicante. Fares from $3,295 per person.

Gallic Debut – A five-day voyage departing Southampton on 26 November 2010 with maiden calls to Rotterdam (for Amsterdam), Brussels/Bruges (for Zeebrugge) and Cherbourg. Fares start from $1,195 per person.

Iberian Discovery – A 13-day voyage departing Southampton on 1 December 2010 with calls to Vigo (for Santiago de Compostela), Lisbon, Seville (Cadiz), Gran Canaria (Las Palmas), Tenerife (Santa Cruz de Tenerife), La Palma (Santa Cruz de La Palma) and Madeira. Fares start from $2,395 per person.

Festive Debut – A 22-day holiday voyage departing Southampton on 14 December 2010 with calls in the Caribbean, including Madeira (Funchal), Tortola, Dominica, Barbados, St. Lucia, Antigua and Azores Islands (Ponta Delgada). Fares start from $4,795 per person.

For more information and to book a voyage, consult your Travel Professional, call toll-free 1-800-7-CUNARD or go to www.cunard.com.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 01, 2009, 10:37 PM

Scott - what a long list! -

Yet... no mention of a Maiden tour around Great Britain :o!

Says it all!!!

(Sorry for the mildly veiled rude-to-QE3 approach here, it's a question of everlasting affection for the QE2!
btw - does anyone know when, who by  and where the QE3 launch will take place?!!)
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Andy F on Apr 02, 2009, 02:17 AM
does anyone know when, who by  and where the QE3 launch will take place?!!)

Nothing confirmed as yet nor likely to be for some time but fair to assume she will be named in Southampton by a 'Royal' as per the norm.  Purely speculative but my bet would be on HM doing the honours once again (as with QE2 and QM2), especially given this is QE.  As for the date, probably (but not necessarily), the day she embarks on her maiden cruise. 


As for the maiden, it was always going to sell out fast and before going on public release but who as for Cunard's claim of selling out faster than QE2's final, 'interesting'.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 02, 2009, 07:07 AM
It looks to me, from the deck plans, that the new QE will have the newly restructured (as seen on Arcadia & other Vista's) totally square back with aft facing accommodation. Has anyone seen any artists impressions of her side elevation or aft views so we can see how this will look?
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 02, 2009, 07:09 AM

As for the maiden, it was always going to sell out fast and before going on public release but who as for Cunard's claim of selling out faster than QE2's final, 'interesting'.


When QE2's farewell sailings went to market everyone was in a state of shock / depression - hence it took a bit longer to dial the numbers to make the bookings!!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 02, 2009, 04:16 PM

Nothing confirmed as yet nor likely to be for some time but fair to assume she will be named in Southampton by a 'Royal' as per the norm.  Purely speculative but my bet would be on HM doing the honours once again (as with QE2 and QM2), especially given this is QE.


I'm not so sure, personally... An italian cruise ship built for an American-owned company... I think she made an exception for QM2 because it was clearly a special one off ship, but I thought they deliberately snubbed them by sending Camilla for QV. If you were another cruise ship operator operating in the UK, wouldn't you complain about why you were being treated differently?

The days of the "real" Queens were a whole different kettle of fish.  British jobs, british craftmanship, British 'ship of state' etc etc.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Andy F on Apr 02, 2009, 11:47 PM
Well Rob, time will of course tell but failing that, they could always ask Helen Mirren; after all, when she named Ventura at least the bottle broke!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: KEV on Apr 04, 2009, 12:50 PM
We had a Queen Elizabeth pub near us once
Think it was opened by Marty Feldman...........
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 04, 2009, 05:01 PM
I am certain, absolutely certain, that thousands of people booked QE2 cruises for the first time ever, in her final 18 months of service after the announcement.  Maybe it was even 10s of thousands.

I am also certain that the experience will have made them thirsty for more - and I think this is a factor in the QE sellout (although I don't actually believe its as simple as a complete sell-out - there must be some spin going on here... also people only have to put down 10% now... lets see how many actually go!).

However for me, QE is not a "suitable replacement" for QE2, and I don't know why they keep calling her that.  What does that make QM2 then?

I just wish they'd called her something else, something not beginning with Q.  She's not a Cunard Queen.  There have been 4 Cunard Queens, although for many people, there's only really been 3...
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 05, 2009, 07:20 AM
I've just added Queen Elizabeth (3) to my website including images kindly provided by Michael Gallagher at Cunard Line:

http://www.chriscunard.com/queen_elizabeth.htm (http://www.chriscunard.com/queen_elizabeth.htm)
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 05, 2009, 09:58 AM
Thank you Chris -

Although I think you'll understand that this qe3 (Idea! - use small case! ;))  could never, ever be as GREAT as The RMS QE2 :'(
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 05, 2009, 10:26 AM
I suspect that no ship will ever be as great as Queen Elizabeth 2 - she is, and will always be my favourite :)
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Andy F on Apr 05, 2009, 02:03 PM
I suspect that no ship will ever be as great at Queen Elizabeth 2 - she is, and will always be my favourite :)

and rightly so!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 05, 2009, 02:22 PM
and rightly so!

hear hear!
Title: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: andyh on Apr 14, 2009, 01:30 PM
Hi all

I was just wondering if anyone has book a voyage on the new Queen Elizabeth
We have managed to get a place on the Maiden Voyage next October, and as we have never been on a Maiden Voyage before, wondered if there was anything special we could expect
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: cunardqueen on Apr 14, 2009, 03:51 PM
Hi Andy
  I got word today from my travel agent that lm on the 5 nighter, booked a GTY cabin and paying the single suppliment, so all in all lm a happy bunny, more excited about this ship than the previous two. How long that will last goodness knows.
 Good for you getting on the Maiden Voyage.
 My agent did let slip that the reservations system crashed that day and Cunard called some of the top agents back.
 cheers
  Myles 
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: KEV on Apr 14, 2009, 04:03 PM
Hi all

I was just wondering if anyone has book a voyage on the new Queen Elizabeth
We have managed to get a place on the Maiden Voyage next October, and as we have never been on a Maiden Voyage before, wondered if there was anything special we could expect

There is a chance of expecting a special surprise in that the ship won't be there as it's still being built in the shipyard.....

No seriously Andy well done for getting on her and hope you have a glorious trip

Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Andy F on Apr 14, 2009, 04:21 PM
There is a chance of expecting a special surprise in that the ship won't be there as it's still being built in the shipyard.....
Given the rate they knock them out nowadays I'm sure she'll make it on time, although whether she's actually finished or not's another matter lol! 

...more excited about this ship than the previous two. How long that will last goodness knows.
  Myles, how could you say such things? 

Seriously though guys, I'm delighted for you both and hope you have a great time.  As for me, I'll be watching somewhere shoreside no doubt as you glide serenely past!
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: cunardqueen on Apr 14, 2009, 04:57 PM
Quote
Quote from: Cunardqueen on Today at 03:51:01 PM
...more excited about this ship than the previous two. How long that will last goodness knows.
  Myles, how could you say such things? 

Andy F, l can say it quite easily!! seriously though l do realise a trip on QM2 is something l have to do at some stage,
Its the name Queen Elizabeth that appeals to me,memories of a by gone era and all that, perhaps l have been reading to much Cunard blurb. But Queen Victoria, that to me is nothing more than an aged old Queen, and as yet has failed to grasp me .... ::)
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Andy F on Apr 14, 2009, 05:37 PM
Fair point Myles and in fairness to the 'Vista Sistas', you can't really knock them until you try them.  As I've already said elsewhere, I shall be trying out Victoria next month and will no doubt do the same with Elizabeth sometime 2011 most likely.  However, I shall approach both in the same way as I did QM2 and experience them for what they are rather than try to compare with QE2.  Although I liked her, QM2 is not everyone's cup of tea and I dare say the Vistas will be the same but it's a matter of personal choice at the end of the day. 

Talking of aged old Queens, one wonders how QE2 was received initially by those who hitherto had experienced her predecessors.  Completely different I know, for like her illustrious sisters before her, she was a one-off, built on Clydeside and intended to serve as a true ocean liner rather than based on a mass produced design but no doubt she caused a stir at the time among the Cunard faithful.   

Croquet anyone?

   
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 14, 2009, 06:46 PM
one wonders how QE2 was received initially by those who hitherto had experienced her predecessors.  Completely different I know, for like her illustrious sisters before her,

From the waterline up to boat deck, from the outside, QE2 looked very like every liner that had gone before her.  Row upon row of Portholes, then the prom-deck windows (x2), then the long row of lifeboats on boat deck, the bridge, that actually was a bridge - i.e. "flying"... the tiererd stern - i can look at pictures of QE1, QM1, Normandie and even older and see so much in common with QE2.  The new ships look wildly different to QE2, and every ship that went before, even the QM2.
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 14, 2009, 06:49 PM

Its the name Queen Elizabeth that appeals to me,memories of a by gone era and all that, perhaps l have been reading to much Cunard blurb.

On my goodness Myles, you just became Carnival's PR Departments dream come true!! 

I'd be much more favourably inclined to the ship (and QV) if they weren't called Queens. Its sacrilege - sacrilege I say!!

<mutter....>
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Andy F on Apr 14, 2009, 08:15 PM
Hehe, I was waiting for a suitable response from Mr L on the subject lol!
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Malcolm on Apr 14, 2009, 09:56 PM
<mutter....>

Don't mutter - shout it as loud as you can! THEY ARE NOT QUEENS >:(
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Apr 15, 2009, 09:51 AM
Maybe Princesses (but another cruise line - Carniprincess) holds those titles. Maybe they could be Dames (as in knighted ladies) BUT NOT TRUE QUEENS. But I bet i am a voice in the wilderness on that.
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Malcolm on Apr 15, 2009, 10:43 AM
NOT TRUE QUEENS.

But I bet i am a voice in the wilderness on that.

I don't think so, at least you're not on this site :)
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Apr 19, 2009, 02:56 AM
I took my jaundiced eye to Princes Wharf to view the Q Vista, or Vicky Brown, and was not too impressed. Altho the people waiting to board her certainly seemed happy to be joining her. I will also go to see Q Tin Lizzie when she comes to Auckland. I am slightly curious about her, she is supposed to be Arty Deco (I hope not Carni -tackiness) and I would be interested to hear any one's views about both Vista-dames (my new insulting name for them, until further impressed) I might even start collecting QMdG brochures, but I understand Singlmalts longing for her fave red funnel, not QMdG's one.
Title: Re: Has anybody booked to go on the Queen Elizabeth ?
Post by: Avariel on Apr 20, 2009, 02:30 AM
I probably will be outcast for saying this but ...

I'm hoping to see the Queen Elizabeth next year - don't have much hope of getting on any of the maiden voyages though. I don't have the money for that.

*avoids bricks and other thrown objects*
Title: New Queen Elizabeth
Post by: Waverley on May 06, 2009, 05:03 PM
Quote. "The ships design incorporates aspects of the QE2 and the original Queen Elizabeth!!!"

http://www.gadling.com/2009/03/30/details-about-the-cunard-ship-the-queen-elizabeth/
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 01, 2009, 08:16 PM


The 'Another Queen Elizabeth' has her keel laid tomorrow.


Yet Another Queen Elizabeth is becoming a warship - that doesn't seem right either, does it?
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 01, 2009, 08:47 PM
The 'Another Queen Elizabeth' has her keel laid tomorrow.

An absolute TRAVESTY.  To name a crappy, run of the mill, bog-standard, production-line cruise ship after possibly THE ULTIMATE LINER!  The Queen Elizabeth, that epic, custom-built pride of Britain, through-and-through, absolutely state of the art.  She was designed to take on the world, and she did!  Storming out of her fitting out berth, and across that Atlantic at over 30 knots to evade the enemy.  AWESOME.  How very dare they use the name on a cruise ship

Yet Another Queen Elizabeth is becoming a warship - that doesn't seem right either, does it?

I have no problem with that at all.  Its still a proper warship, built for a purpose, just like the first one.

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/surface-fleet/future-ships/queen-elizabeth-class/history-of-hms-queen-elizabeth/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Queen_Elizabeth_(1913)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Queen_Elizabeth_(CVF)
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 01, 2009, 10:00 PM



1963  Southampton to New York aboard Queen Elizabeth
It was a bit rough then too!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 02, 2009, 11:38 AM
Just about managing to contain myself in my comment.

http://www.thisishampshire.net/news/4470036.Keel_laying_ceremony_for_Queen_Elizabeth/

I have nothing against the ship herself, I'm sure she'll be lovely and highly competitive.  But couldn't they have picked a non-Queen name from this list?  http://www.cunard.co.uk/AboutCunard/default.asp?Active=Heritage&Sub=GetShipService  (this goes for QV too, but at least she isn't named after a great ship).  As I've said elsewhere, I believe QM2 is a pretty awesome and unique creation, and they undermine her, completely, by naming their cruise boxes as Queens too.  There was more, much more, to Cunard than the Queens, but the legeld of the Cunard Queens needs treasured not trashed.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 02, 2009, 11:50 AM
Cunard Press Release:-

http://www.cunard.co.uk/news/default.asp?Cat=&View=ViewArticle&Mode=News&ContentID=7663&Active=News

Cunard - PLEASE stop referring to her as a successor to the QE2?!  OR have I missed something, and she IS going to do 5 night crossings to New York and clock up 6 million miles over 40 years at an average speed of over 25 knots?  

But I do hope, of course, that the weather is kind in January 2011 when she makes her tandem 8 night (or will it be 9?) transatlantic crossing with her identical sister ship.

Bah.
Title: Queen Elizabeth Keel Laid
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 14, 2009, 03:32 PM
For anyone following the progress with the forthcoming Queen Elizabeth however the keel was laid on July 2.

Video and image from Cunard here:

http://www.chriscunard.com/about-QE.htm

Cheers,

Chris.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jul 14, 2009, 06:23 PM
Somehow, the name adds insult to injury...

Any other name (even that of a queen, if so desired) would have been fine -- but why use the name of two such illustrious forebears, which are in a totally different class to this mass produced block?

Anyway, I did sneak a look at the keel laying ceremony blog, and found it surprisingly fascinating in its own (rather limited) right :

http://wearecunard.com/2009/07/the-first-pictures-of-a-new-queen/
http://wearecunard.com/2009/07/queen-elizabeth%e2%80%99s-keel-is-laid/


The video, which continues the blog, contains an interview with a happy Carol Marlow.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: luzparis on Jul 14, 2009, 07:39 PM
for me cunard loose his spirit because the new ship is not original !she's  a copy of different other ship made by fincantieri
only the QM2 is different why cunard don't built a specific liner ,modern, new look and design contemporay  a ship for the 21 century??
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 14, 2009, 08:34 PM
My God, does she EVER wear ANYTHING else!

I can imagine her in bed with that rigout on!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jul 14, 2009, 08:47 PM
She's just making life easier for people like me with poor memories, who might not otherwise recognise her!
Must be the case for a few more Cunard passengers too ....  ;)

Come to think of it, I bet you that her wardrobe is FULL, and that it is just us who cannot distinguish between one of her rigouts and another...

But black and red pyjamas... very smart...  8)
Title: Look at this profile...Not a Queen!! Maybe the mother inlaw??
Post by: Jem on Aug 08, 2009, 05:11 AM
Where has the imagination gone.........

Cheers
Jeremy.
Title: Master Appolnted to QE
Post by: highlander0108 on Sep 02, 2009, 11:54 PM
Cunard has appointed Captain Chris Wells as Master of the new Queen Elizabeth.

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cunard-Line-Limited-1039243.html

I, as well as probably most of you, am very disappointed that this did not go to QE2 Master Captain Ian McNaught.  Is he being punished for his little grounding incident?  Does anyone know what our favorite captain is up to?

Ken
Title: Re: Master Appolnted to QE
Post by: Twynkle on Sep 03, 2009, 12:02 AM


Captain McNaught is hopefully at the helm of the Queen Victoria, as from last Sunday!

(It looks windy out there tonight, passengers may be experiencing Heavy Mounting Seas!!)
Title: Re: Master Appolnted to QE
Post by: highlander0108 on Sep 03, 2009, 12:15 AM
Well, to put a positive spin on this, perhaps he is in line for command of another liner, QM2.  :-\ This news does take away some of the excitement of the 2011 Maiden Tandem Crossing that I am booked on.  For me, Captain McNaught was part of the whole QE2 experience and having him at the helm would have helped bridge the transition to a new ship.

Ken
Title: Re: Master Appolnted to QE
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Sep 03, 2009, 04:59 AM

Captain Mcnaught deserved to be the Captain for the new ship.

Louis
Title: Re: Master Appolnted to QE
Post by: Twynkle on Sep 03, 2009, 08:04 AM
However it's important and good to read that the new QE will have
a Master who also has much experience of sailing aboard QE2

About QE and the Crew / Staffing in general.

After QE2 arrived in Dubai - many of the Crew moved to either 'The Mary' or to qV.
This has been to help maintain Cunard's way of doing things, as well as to train new crew etc.
From this passenger's experience, it's worked very well!
'Specially as our Cabin Steward, some of the Waiters, Officers and Staff had spent over 10 years aboard QE2 :)
It certainly felt as if the spirit of QE2  was everywhere around us!
I wonder whether it's the same on 'The Mary'?

However, at least one ex-QE2 'Senior' is now needing to work in a more junior position
Currently many working on qV are as yet unsure where they will be 'posted' next year
It seems that some Crew and Staff from 'The Mary' and qV will be shared between new QE
while a number of new Crew et al will be recruited across all three Cunarders.
Officers, Crew and ?Staff spent months with qV prior to her Maiden Voyage
Expecting now that it will be the same for QE

Please,  someone correct / change any of these 'facts' if they are incorrect!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 13, 2009, 12:24 PM
Counting down....
http://wearecunard.com/2009/11/breaking-news-–-the-latest-pictures-of-queen-elizabeth/
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: highlander0108 on Nov 13, 2009, 05:09 PM
Counting down....
http://wearecunard.com/2009/11/breaking-news-–-the-latest-pictures-of-queen-elizabeth/

It would be nice if all the glazing mullions are blacked out ala QE2 on the bridge.  Too bad there appears to be nothing changed or even tweaked from the QV bridge design.  The white mullions on the bridge area scream out to me on the QV design.  I know there is no way to make the new ship QE2 like, but that subtle change might approve here appearance and give a subtle nod to real Cunard Liners QE2 and QM2.  I rather like how Stephen Payne angled the center portion of QM2's bridge like QE2's.

I also wonder if they welded the name on the stern so that QEII cannot mess up the naming ceremony which undoubtibly she will be called to do.

Ken
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Nov 13, 2009, 05:33 PM
You learn a new word every day - mullion!  Its a great word too :)

I bet HRH QEII does not name the new ship.  I think her hubby & co know a thing or two about ships, and they knew QM2 was special... I'd be surprised, and disappointed, if she named qE .

And agree about the bridge comments - and i really like how this is one of the many ways in which QM2 gives a nod to her illustrious predecessor.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Nov 14, 2009, 12:54 PM
I bet HRH QEII does not name the new ship.  I think her hubby & co know a thing or two about ships, and they knew QM2 was special... I'd be surprised, and disappointed, if she named qE .

I'd like it if HRH did name the new ship, and once at the podium, she speaks the words "I name this ship Mauretania" ;) She's 'renamed' a ship before - why not this one?! :)
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Nov 14, 2009, 12:56 PM
Mauretania's no better than mis-using the Queen name!  Mauretania was an awesome ship - fastest and most advanced in her day, world famous! 

Caronia or something would be OK though...
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Nov 14, 2009, 01:03 PM
Ok ok ... perhaps I picked the wrong name! Maybe "I name this ship Sea Goddess 3" ;)

Caronia (of 1949) would be good considering she was the first Cunard 'Cruise' Ship - although make no mistake she could handle herself on the North Atlantic.

That said, all the old Cunarders were awesome ships in their own right... they helped shape nations, drove commerce and safely transported millions upon millions across the world's most perilous ocean. They were and are awe inspiring, national treasures... Which is why it is so important that the last of these great Cunarders (QE2) is preserved!
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: highlander0108 on Nov 14, 2009, 05:39 PM
You learn a new word every day - mullion!  Its a great word too :)

I bet HRH QEII does not name the new ship.  I think her hubby & co know a thing or two about ships, and they knew QM2 was special... I'd be surprised, and disappointed, if she named qE .

And agree about the bridge comments - and i really like how this is one of the many ways in which QM2 gives a nod to her illustrious predecessor.

Wouldn't that be the ultimate snub if she does NOT accept to name the ship, which we probably would never know anyway if the offer was extended to her from Cunard.  :o  I know that they have their reasons for naming the ship plain old QE, but I just have a hard time with that (Queen Elizabeth is one of the original Queens to me) and QE3 rolls off my tongue far easier. Anyway, since they want to simply erase all QE2 memories and hark back to the original Queen Elizabeth with the retro Art Deco interiors and not do anything cutting edge like QE2 was in her time, so be it Cunard.  Like Captain McNaught has said so many times, you will never see anything the likes of QE2 ever again.  :'(  That being said, I'm booked on the maiden tandem crossing on QE with QV.  :o

Ken
Title: Re: New Queen Elizabeth
Post by: LegendOfTheSeas on Nov 15, 2009, 08:32 PM
Quote. "The ships design incorporates aspects of the QE2 and the original Queen Elizabeth!!!"

http://www.gadling.com/2009/03/30/details-about-the-cunard-ship-the-queen-elizabeth/

Which reads like complete crap to me, as it's another Vista clone. In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with Vistas in their own right, as they're fine cruise ships and quite pretty ones, too, when seen from the front quarter (all in my own opinion, of course - I do expect to be shot down in flames here  ;D ) but they are not Queens and to try and dress up an off-the-peg cruise ship up as a true Cunard queen is short-changing everyone.
If they had wanted to give them true Cunard names, and there is nothing wrong with that why didn't they give them the traditional Cunard '-ia' (except Queen Victoria of course  ;) ) names such as Mauretania, Aquitania, Coronia, etc, and leave the Queen names out of it? Want a Queen? Build a sister to Queen Mary 2, doesn't have to be as large, but it would still be a Queen - we can but dream... Just stop passing a cloned cruise ship off as something it is not.  >:(
Title: Re: New Queen Elizabeth
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Nov 15, 2009, 08:59 PM
In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with Vistas in their own right, as they're fine cruise ships and quite pretty ones, too, when seen from the front quarter (all in my own opinion, of course - I do expect to be shot down in flames here  ;D ) but they are not Queens and to try and dress up an off-the-peg cruise ship up as a true Cunard queen is short-changing everyone.
If they had wanted to give them true Cunard names, and there is nothing wrong with that why didn't they give them the traditional Cunard '-ia' (except Queen Victoria of course  ;) ) names such as Mauretania, Aquitania, Coronia, etc, and leave the Queen names out of it? Want a Queen? Build a sister to Queen Mary 2, doesn't have to be as large, but it would still be a Queen - we can but dream... Just stop passing a cloned cruise ship off as something it is not.  >:(

I agree with all that. By the way, the -ia names were all of Roman provinces, so probably even Victoria would not qualify   ???  . But there could have been the additional option of reviving the -ic names of White Star lines...

And if it had to be a Queen... why Elizabeth, of all available names? This choice just seems to add insult to injury...

But as for shooting anyone down in flames, somehow I do not think this Forum is the place for that, we seem to be altogether too civilised (what else would you expect of a bunch of QE2 fans?) to even consider such action  ;D.

Title: Re: New Queen Elizabeth
Post by: LegendOfTheSeas on Nov 15, 2009, 09:20 PM
But as for shooting anyone down in flames, somehow I do not think this Forum is the place for that, we seem to be altogether too civilised (what else would you expect of a bunch of QE2 fans?) to even consider such action  ;D.

LOL!  ;D I wasn't sure, as I thought I might have overstepped the mark here by describing the Vista family as 'pretty'! But, yes, this is one of the most civilised forums I have ever been in (and with varied interests such as astronomy, birding and football I belong to quite a few!) with nice people who all love our dear old QE2.

I agree about the '-ic' names. It would have been great to see Georgic, Britannic, Majestic, Olympic, etc, revived. Olympic, especially, would have been quite apt for Queen Elizabeth, as we host the Olympics here in Britain two years later.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Nov 15, 2009, 10:47 PM
You're so right!  Olympic would have been a brilliant name for her, and far more imaginative too.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Chris Frame on Nov 18, 2009, 09:26 AM
Personally I prefer Mauretania ;)
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 24, 2009, 08:40 AM
This timing of this is extraordinary..
'The Queen is.....' Long Live QE2

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2009/11/new-cunard-queen-gets-her-name.html

and as Rob noted yesterday!
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,759.0.html
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Nov 24, 2009, 11:54 AM
What happened to the days when ships were named at their launch ceremony, and everyone was left guessing until then...?!?

.... and was given the chance to change their minds about the name too...  !

Of course, now that I mention it, what happened to ships being launched?
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: LegendOfTheSeas on Nov 24, 2009, 12:58 PM
What happened to the days when ships were named at their launch ceremony, and everyone was left guessing until then...?!?

.... and was given the chance to change their minds about the name too...  !

Of course, now that I mention it, what happened to ships being launched?

It was nice when ships were properly launched - it was spectacular. These days, they're built in covered dry docks and floated out.
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: luzparis on Nov 24, 2009, 08:03 PM
the video of QE construction in Italy  :o

Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 28, 2009, 08:03 AM
Looking at 'Elizabeth' from the 'inside' !!
http://wearecunard.com/
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Dec 03, 2009, 01:37 PM
All those suggestions of diverging from the official naming script missed out the obvious one:

"I name this floating block of flats.....! ;D
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: pete cain on Dec 03, 2009, 07:40 PM
2 mins into the video blog Alastair calls it  a liner, think we should put him right before it becomes a habit? and what's that big round thingy on the bow section , is it a gun mounting? (not that I give a damn just vaguely interested)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Dec 13, 2009, 12:19 PM
I must say I hope if the Queen does name it I hope she calls it something else. She did with QE2.
I want to see a ship not a floating block of flates.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Dec 13, 2009, 12:29 PM
'I name this ship, one ugly piece of ship! May God bless her and all who sail in her!'

See the Queen saying it? haha
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: cunardqueen on Dec 13, 2009, 07:36 PM
Quote
My God, does she EVER wear ANYTHING else!

I can imagine her in bed with that rigout on!

No comment....BUT could you manage a crossing on QE2 with only one tiny suitcase, Heck my make up travels in a larger case that this...
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5410/qe2lend1492.jpg)
For the record In New York at the passenger ship terminal on QE2s last visit.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Dec 13, 2009, 08:57 PM
'I name this ship, one ugly piece of ship! May God bless her and all who sail in her!'

See the Queen saying it? haha


In our virtual "QE2Story.com World Cruise", we encountered a legendary ship called RMS USOTA, whose name (Ugliest Sister Of Them All) might just suit the new Queen Elizabeth... ?    ;D
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 13, 2009, 10:05 PM
Er...
Hmmm....
Yes, Isabelle....
but...the RMS USOTA is/was unique
ss queen elizabeth MMX isn't! -
She's a Vista-sista for starters, and a Cunarder into the bargain!

And...does anyone know something about the novel use of the word - 'Godparent', as in 'naming' ships?
Has any ship acquired a Godfather yet?
Does this sort of Godparent have other responsibilities?
I wonder too, when a ship is sold, is there a new naming ceremony? - What happens to the original Godparent, does this person become an ex as well?
 


Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Dec 14, 2009, 12:21 AM
And...does anyone know something about the novel use of the word - 'Godparent', as in 'naming' ships?
Has any ship acquired a Godfather yet?

I think the new Costa ships should have Godfathers...... ;D
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Dec 14, 2009, 04:52 AM

I wonder too, when a ship is sold, is there a new naming ceremony? - What happens to the original Godparent, does this person become an ex as well?
 


 Hey Rosie,

Hope your well. I cannot answer your early questions as I don’t know much on the 'God parent/Father' business, However I know Princess Cruises have re-launched the Tahitian Princess as Ocean Princess, and on their website, you can sign up as an honorary Godparent of the ship!

Yes, when a ship is sold to a new company, or even transferred within a fleet (One Carnival company to another for example), there is a new naming ceremony for the ship. I suppose this is the way that the new company introduces there new ship, with maximum interest, and as publicity and advertising too. Also they often have a ‘Maiden Voyage’ as well, even if the ship has been sailing for years before hand, again to get people to sail this is, and hopefully have a sell-out. I suppose it is ‘Maiden’ under the new name, but not for the ship!

 Anyway, this recently occurred in Australia, on Saturday the 12th of December this year, Last weekend in fact. The ship Ocean Village 2 was transferred from the Ocean Village fleet to the P&O Cruises Australia fleet, and re-named Pacific Jewel. P&O Australia had a naming ceremony for this ship on Saturday, where it was officially named Pacific Jewel followed by a Maiden Voyage the next day. This ship now has a new ‘Godparent’ or person who officially named the ship; however I don’t believe P&O Australia call it ‘Godparent’. The Governor-General, Quentin Bryce was who named and launched the new ship. The same thing happened with Pacific Dawn, when this was transferred from Princess Fleet, famous Australian athlete Cathy Freeman launched the ship, and became the Godparent for P&O Australia to this ship.

I don’t know if the previous Godparents become ‘ex’ once the ship leaves the fleet, I would imagine so as a new one is appointed, however I am not entirely sure on this.

I hope this helps, and hopefully answers a few of your questions my dear.

Regards,
Matt
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: skilly56 on Dec 14, 2009, 10:08 AM
Hi Matt,

Re the OV2 being based in Australia, next December they are going to do it again - the original Ocean Village (ex Arcadia 2) is being 're-christened' as the 'Pacific Pearl' and is going to based in Auckland. Ship is being advertised full page in the county's biggest newspaper here at the moment as "P&O Cruises newest cruise ship" (pardon me, she's already 20 years old!). Still, it has to be better than the sorry sagas that have been going on in the older ships that have been operating down here.

Skilly
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Dec 14, 2009, 12:45 PM
Hi Matt,

Re the OV2 being based in Australia, next December they are going to do it again - the original Ocean Village (ex Arcadia 2) is being 're-christened' as the 'Pacific Pearl' and is going to based in Auckland. Ship is being advertised full page in the county's biggest newspaper here at the moment as "P&O Cruises newest cruise ship" (pardon me, she's already 20 years old!). Still, it has to be better than the sorry sagas that have been going on in the older ships that have been operating down here.

Skilly

Yes! i did hear about this Skilly, Not so new hey! 20 Years! But it will be good as it is ex Arcadia, so atleast it once was a fairly great ship isuppose! haha.

Matt
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Dec 14, 2009, 01:01 PM
No comment....BUT could you manage a crossing on QE2 with only one tiny suitcase, Heck my make up travels in a larger case that this...
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5410/qe2lend1492.jpg)
For the record In New York at the passenger ship terminal on QE2s last visit.

Well, she only had that one outfit to wear so that lightens the luggage up a bit.  :o  Have you ever seen her in anything else?  I wonder what she wore on formal nights?   :-\
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Dec 14, 2009, 01:34 PM
http://www.pocruises.com/LandingPage/marlow/index.html

New Jacket, Same under shirt!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Dec 14, 2009, 01:38 PM
here we are Again, for Cunard

http://wearecunard.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/photo-41.jpg
http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/i/partypictures/09_15_08/hope/CarolMarlow2.jpg
http://www.cunard.com/uploads/QE2Collins_Marlow_Sheinwald.jpg
http://z.about.com/d/honeymoons/1/0/A/6/1/07pres-captain.jpg

She seems to be a very nice woman however!! Dont get me wrong!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 14, 2009, 03:59 PM
Am I the only one that's sad about Ms Marlow's current sartorial style?
Now that she no longer is tied up in Cunard,
she will undoubtedly hope to convey the image of her new line.
The bit of her that tried very hard to resemble QE2 will be missing.
 

Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Dec 14, 2009, 04:09 PM
Am I the only one that's sad about Ms Marlow's current sartorial style?
Now that she no longer is tied up in Cunard,
she will undoubtedly hope to convey the image of her new line.
The bit of her that tried very hard to resemble QE2 will be missing.
 



I Liked her and i shall miss her! She seemed good to me! haha

http://www.pocruises.com/LandingPage/marlow/index.html Thats her new Image Rosie!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Dec 14, 2009, 06:18 PM
Maybe she wanted to move away from Cunard, so she could stop wearing that red jacket, and have everybody complaining to her all the time about what they did to poor QE2!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 14, 2009, 08:17 PM
Oh!...I was thinking that maybe, as a reminder of her Glory Days with QE2 -  she'd appreciate an I LOVE QE2 Badge!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Dec 15, 2009, 04:25 AM
Did Marlow also announce that the Artemis, another much loved P&O Vessel (obviously not as loved as the QE2, dont get me wrong!), will be exiting the fleet in 2011?

 If so, she really is the bearer of bad news!!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: cunardqueen on Dec 20, 2009, 10:02 PM
Perhaps it was just a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and now that the fuss has died down she has been moved, Who on earth would want to leave Cunard for P&O? Mindyou l was ever so nearly sailing of on the Canberra in a friendly four cabin... the rest is history ;D

Quote
Oh!...I was thinking that maybe, as a reminder of her Glory Days with QE2 -  she'd appreciate an I LOVE QE2 Badge!

Rosie, lf l thought she would like one, l would gladly give her one.... Err Badge that is :-X

And Rob can let us know when she joins up...and he can delete this topic pronto  ;)

(and if Shanks wants one he can pay for his !!!)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 04, 2010, 05:51 PM
I like (not) how they talk of the new Queen Elizabeth as "our" (i.e. Cunard's) third Queen!

http://wearecunard.com/2010/01/the-final-touches-are-added-to-queen-elizabeth-before-she-floats-out/ (http://wearecunard.com/2010/01/the-final-touches-are-added-to-queen-elizabeth-before-she-floats-out/)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Jan 04, 2010, 07:49 PM
Maybe she wanted to move away from Cunard, so she could stop wearing that red jacket, and have everybody complaining to her all the time about what they did to poor QE2!

 :D
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 05, 2010, 10:49 AM
More about queen Elizabeth's 'Floating Out Ceremony'

'...Having a godmother or ‘madrina’ as they are called in Italy, at a ship’s float out is an Italian tradition. For Queen Elizabeth, it will be Florence Farmer, whose husband Willie joined Cunard in September 1938 and served as chief engineer on the first Queen Elizabeth and the QE2 until he retired in October 1979...'

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/2010/01/05/32725/cunards-queen-elizabeth-floats-out-today.html

The Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240853/Impressive-92-000-tonne-Queen-Elizabeth-liner-takes-water-time-Italy.html

USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruises/item.aspx?type=blog&ak=13669.blog

Isn't it going to be painful - if everyone starts calling this queen Elizabeth 'successor to QE2' - Arrgh!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: cunardqueen on Jan 06, 2010, 01:23 AM
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Maybe she wanted to move away from Cunard, so she could stop wearing that red jacket, and have everybody complaining to her all the time about what they did to poor QE2!



Looks like the red jacket has a new owner ;).. Florence Farmer, she was on QE2 for her farwell UK voyage.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 06, 2010, 08:57 AM
Will she have an open observation deck?
Please.... before it's too late to give us one.
She's going to have other memories of QE2 and QE...
Together with these, mightn't The Bit Beneath the Bridge become her very own USP?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240853/Impressive-92-000-tonne-Queen-Elizabeth-liner-takes-water-time-Italy.html
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jan 06, 2010, 10:22 AM
What do you think of her? Now more pictures are shown in what she looks like does she look better than QV?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 06, 2010, 10:37 AM
Externally - no.  The balconies spoil it all again.

Internally - yes.  Very impressive.

And in those photos, oh how unfortunate that the red and white chimney on the shore behind her appears as if it's her funnel! ;D

I notice the name has already been put on; is this an attempt to prevent any imprompt addition of the suffix "3" during the actual ceremony in October?! ;D
Title: Re: Another Queen Elizabeth...
Post by: jdl on Jan 06, 2010, 10:02 PM
When QE2's farewell sailings went to market everyone was in a state of shock / depression - hence it took a bit longer to dial the numbers to make the bookings!!

Very very good Chris, can't stop chuckling at my laptop - good work!

john
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 06, 2010, 10:39 PM
Will she have an open observation deck?
Please.... before it's too late to give us one.
She's going to have other memories of QE2 and QE...
Together with these, mightn't The Bit Beneath the Bridge become her very own USP?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240853/Impressive-92-000-tonne-Queen-Elizabeth-liner-takes-water-time-Italy.html

There is something clearly different above the bridge in comparision to QV.  The rounded bit at the top is different and appears to be a full level higher, perhaps it is similar to Eurodam and the other recent Vista cousins of Costa.  At the stern, the step down will be less pronounced in profile.  If you compare deck plans, they've added cabins and reduced the outside deck space.  I still want to know why the funnel casing can't extend up more to conceal the engine exhausts more like QE2 and to at leat give an appearance of a taller stack.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: luzparis on Jan 06, 2010, 10:45 PM
i don't like the top of the ship very heavy and the look very massive  :-X
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Bob C. on Jan 07, 2010, 05:20 AM
Could have been made to reflect the Cunard traditions better.  Her nose is short wide and fat and she looks too top heavy.  Her lines need to be refined better.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 07, 2010, 06:35 AM
Could have been made to reflect the Cunard traditions better.  Her nose is short wide and fat and she looks too top heavy.  Her lines need to be refined better.

Not much you can do Bob if you are recycling a proven cruise ship design, getting their money's worth out of the design.  :(
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jan 07, 2010, 09:02 AM
The interiors looks great but the only part of the ship I don't like is the balconies and the way the wheelhouse is too close to the bow. On QE2. Queen Mary and the original Queen Elizabeth they have their wheelhouse quite far back.

I wish Cunard would make another design instead of the same Vista Class ships. I wonder if they will have another ship to get built? It would be good to get another Transatlantic liner from them.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 07, 2010, 09:14 AM
.....I wish Cunard would make another design instead of the same Vista Class ships. I wonder if they will have another ship to get built? It would be good to get another Transatlantic liner from them.

Hello RMS Queen Elizabeth 2
Good Thinking!
Another new design...
We know they can do it!
Thing is...what might they call her?
Rosie
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jan 07, 2010, 09:17 AM
Of course they can do it. Look at all those ships that were made in the 1910's, 20s. 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s and now QM2 from 2002 (year she was built).

Perhaps a sister or not it would be great to have another true Transatlantic thoroughbred. But I doubt it will be built in the U.K. :( The name might be different as they have covered all the Queen names.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 07, 2010, 10:11 AM
And why can't they stick a sharp and reinforced bow onto the basic Vista design anyway?  It can't add that much to the length, surely?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jan 07, 2010, 10:35 AM
But then again what could they do at the stern? Thats in shape of a box and is quite short.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 07, 2010, 10:39 AM
Maybe a cosmetic curved bit above the water line?

Don't know why they're persisting with pods anyway after the problems with the QM2?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jan 07, 2010, 10:46 AM
They broke didn't they on QM2?

Will the new QE make any Transatlantic crossings?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 07, 2010, 11:00 AM
Of course they can do it. Look at all those ships that were made in the 1910's, 20s. 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s and now QM2 from 2002 (year she was built).

Perhaps a sister or not it would be great to have another true Transatlantic thoroughbred. But I doubt it will be built in the U.K. :( The name might be different as they have covered all the Queen names.

'Course they could - the first 'First' was RMS Britannia in 18whenever it was!

About the name....
Lots of Queens married to Kings of England - and Scotland!
In no particular order - Caroline, Alexandra, Aldelaide, Eleanor, etc etc
 and in her own right - Queen Anne!
They could, purely out of respect to QE2 call her QE2 x 2...Hmm
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 07, 2010, 11:42 AM
Don't know why they're persisting with pods anyway after the problems with the QM2?

All cruise ships have pods, with few problems.  The Rolls Royce Mermaid ones on QM2, however, are very powerful, advanced and a unique design that had not been tried out before (!)... thats where the problems came from!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 07, 2010, 11:46 AM
Will the new QE make any Transatlantic crossings?

I dont think she can/will do any more than QV does, where they are really 'repositioning' trips like most cruise ships do from time to time.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 07, 2010, 11:53 AM
I wish Cunard would make another design instead of the same Vista Class ships. I wonder if they will have another ship to get built? It would be good to get another Transatlantic liner from them.

It would be marvellous.  However times are (very) tough and using an 'off the shelf' Vista design is much, much, much cheaper than a bespoke design like QM2 was.... even with the various compromises that the Vista ships bring to Cunard, the low cost must still be a deal breaker (compared to a proper 'new QE2').
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 07, 2010, 12:08 PM
Not much you can do Bob if you are recycling a proven cruise ship design, getting their money's worth out of the design.  :(

Indeed.... she is the 9th of so far 11 Vista Ships.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 07, 2010, 12:17 PM
There is something clearly different above the bridge in comparision to QV.  The rounded bit at the top is different and appears to be a full level higher
I noticed that too.  It reminds me, again, of QM2 designer Stephen Payne's comments that the bridge on a liner must be the highest deck!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 07, 2010, 12:49 PM
Despite the missing glass, there is definite change here, and I doubt it will be for the better appearance wise when we see the final product.  I'd love to here Stephen Payne weigh in on why the bridge wings have to be so low on these Vista and other current cruise ship designs.  I do recall reading that he had some involvement of the Vista class design for HAL way back.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jan 07, 2010, 01:59 PM
I have to say the new QE looks an improvement to QV.

I noticed that too.  It reminds me, again, of QM2 designer Stephen Payne's comments that the bridge on a liner must be the highest deck!

Where was it that Stephen said about the bridge design?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 07, 2010, 02:12 PM
Where was it that Stephen said about the bridge design?
I don't recall specifically, but basically anywhere where he was discussing what makes QM2 unique, and what makes her a liner - this is one of the ways.  Its definitely in the maxtone-graham QM2 book, and I'm sure i've seen him say it on TV somewhere or other...
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jan 08, 2010, 07:15 AM
The third Elizabeth is now floating.

I saw this image of her on the We Are Cunard blog - the structure above the bridge certainly looks imposing!

Chris.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jan 08, 2010, 07:16 AM
Also from the blog:

Three coins were chosen; a half crown dated 1938 (the year the first Queen Elizabeth was launched); a sovereign dated 1967 (the year QE2 was launched) and a sovereign dated 2010 to acknowledge the fact that the new Queen Elizabeth is being floated out in 2010.

(http://wearecunard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/coins-300x218.jpg)

 

Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Jan 08, 2010, 07:36 AM
I have to say, i think this new Elizabeth looks worse than the Queen Victoria.  :'(
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: matdark on Jan 08, 2010, 02:45 PM
While sorting pics on my hard drive I found this sketch I had made some time ago... The intent was to make an improved QM2... Wouldn't it have been way better if she had looked like this?
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_xwp_woWPd1s/SLdY3d80HnI/AAAAAAAACfU/EHYB9nxz-Ws/s400/qe.jpg)
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ylvIXHD8ZmPluhBagx3dyA?authkey=Gv1sRgCI2EvMawosHbdg&feat=directlink (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ylvIXHD8ZmPluhBagx3dyA?authkey=Gv1sRgCI2EvMawosHbdg&feat=directlink)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 08, 2010, 05:14 PM
You got the proportions sorted out there Matt pretty spot on.  Funnel in the center too!  Looks like you lopped off those added floors that the bean counters said had to be included to make the ship profitable too.

Regarding the new pictures posted on the Cunard Blog, I agree that they really uglied up the QE with that forward area extension, especially how it abruptly ends, squarely, going towards the stern.  I'm really disappointed.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jan 11, 2010, 04:52 AM
More comments at Cruise Talk re: Elizabeth share this forum's feelings for the ship:

http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/ubb-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=011595
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 11, 2010, 06:45 PM
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html (http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html)

Check out that stern!  It's like a cliff face!  What with that and the "structure" behind and above the bridge I think this is definitely the uglier sister.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 11, 2010, 06:51 PM
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html (http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html)

Check out that stern!  It's like a cliff face!  What with that and the "structure" behind and above the bridge I think this is definitely the uglier sister.

Yes - and I think those aspects look quite unlike the artists impressions of the ship they've released.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jan 11, 2010, 06:57 PM
Thats really ugly. I don't like the stern at all.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 11, 2010, 07:03 PM
But also, from the deckplans in the brochure I got from Cunard those stern cabins are some of the best suites aboard but they are overlooked by the ones above.  I'm not sure I would be so keen on that, if I had paid that much for one!

Also, what is the QV like for vibration/noise at the stern?  It has to be an issue, they can't completely mitigate vibration/noise from the business end of the ship.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Jan 11, 2010, 07:38 PM
I can be rather forgiving ... but what is that thing on the top front above the bridge?  Really odd looking.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 12, 2010, 08:49 AM
Does this help?
http://wearecunard.com/2010/01/the-first-pictures-from-queen-elizabeth’s-float-out-ceremony/ (http://wearecunard.com/2010/01/the-first-pictures-from-queen-elizabeth’s-float-out-ceremony/)

(Please Forgive me and delete, if it's somewhere else already!)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Jan 12, 2010, 11:59 AM
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html (http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html)

Check out that stern!  It's like a cliff face!  What with that and the "structure" behind and above the bridge I think this is definitely the uglier sister.

 Someone hold me a sick bag open whilst i chuck my guts up in tribute to this "Queen".

 She makes the QV look relatively beautiful!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Jan 12, 2010, 12:04 PM
The new 'Games Deck canvas covering' looks like a toilet seat!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 12, 2010, 12:11 PM
Does anyone else get the impression that all these extra bits with enclosed space are there just for the purpose of boosting the GRT figure so that in the press QE will seem to be bigger than she is?  Remember - it's the GRT figure which the press use to compare these ships...
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 12, 2010, 12:21 PM
The new 'Games Deck canvas covering' looks like a toilet seat!
but it might not be suitable conditions for croquet on the lawn without it! Ha ha ha ha ha!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jan 12, 2010, 12:27 PM
Wow... those stern shots remind me of the Grand-Class ships...  :(
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 12, 2010, 12:34 PM
But also, from the deckplans in the brochure I got from Cunard those stern cabins are some of the best suites aboard but they are overlooked by the ones above.  I'm not sure I would be so keen on that, if I had paid that much for one!

Also, what is the QV like for vibration/noise at the stern?  It has to be an issue, they can't completely mitigate vibration/noise from the business end of the ship.

I saved this link while Eurodam, QE's ugly sister, was under construction.  There is a system in place to inject air under the hull to reduce vibration.  Since it has been effective, I suspect QV/QE have this feature.

http://www.eurodamnews.com/2007/08/06/air-injection-system-reduces-noise-vibration/

If you dig deeper into this blog done by Holland America Line, there are articles on the plantation grown teak, how it's installed and alot of other features such as the bulbous bow explained.  Why can't Cunard do a better job promoting their new "Queen?"
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: andy liney on Jan 12, 2010, 01:21 PM
Wow... those stern shots remind me of the Grand-Class ships...  :(

The whole ship is absolutely hideous, but the stern caps it all! I knew she was very much a compromise design, but she's uglier than most of the other Vista class vessels including QV.

I'm booked on her already but these shots are making me have scond thoughts! :(
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 12, 2010, 02:02 PM
^^^^^

Don't worry too much; at least if you're sailing on her you won't be able to see her!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Jan 12, 2010, 03:16 PM
^^^^^

Don't worry too much; at least if you're sailing on her you won't be able to see her!

Yes Pete, you are very right here! Its like when the QE2 and QV did the transatlantic tandem crossing, even though the passengers on QV were on the beast ship, they didnt have to see her, just have sight of the splendor of QE2, however the QE2 passengers would rather not have the tandem crossing!

 
The whole ship is absolutely hideous, but the stern caps it all! I knew she was very much a compromise design, but she's uglier than most of the other Vista class vessels including QV.

I'm booked on her already but these shots are making me have scond thoughts! :(

But i do agree here too, She is hideous! Far more than ANY other Vista class. Its the Beluga Whale head and flat ass stern!

Regards,
Matt
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 12, 2010, 03:37 PM
About the sterns - qE and qV

Have a look at AndyF's images of qV's stern
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitzsimmons/2724141246/in/set-72157606494837693/
and then QE in the third image down on:
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

It would be really helpful if someone could describe the difference
Many thanks
Rosie
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: andy liney on Jan 12, 2010, 04:31 PM
About the sterns - qE and qV

Have a look at AndyF's images of qV's stern
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitzsimmons/2724141246/in/set-72157606494837693/
and then QE in the third image down on:
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

It would be really helpful if someone could describe the difference
Many thanks
Rosie

Although the lack of colour makes the QE look especially ugly, QV's sterrn is less vertical. Not pretty by any means, but still better than QE.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 12, 2010, 05:06 PM
About the sterns - qE and qV

Have a look at AndyF's images of qV's stern
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyfitzsimmons/2724141246/in/set-72157606494837693/
and then QE in the third image down on:
http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html

It would be really helpful if someone could describe the difference
Many thanks
Rosie

They squeezed in more cabins, shortening the deep balconies on the outboard cabins.  UGLY!  At least QV was stepped in more of a liner-like fashion.  If you compare deck plans on the Cunard website, you will see the added cabins.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Jan 12, 2010, 07:59 PM
Has it ever been discussed here on this forum (or elsewhere) the thought process that went into choosing the Vista Class ships for the new "Queens"?  It is pretty obvious that Cunard wanted to expand their "product" (after selling QE2).  And iI do know that another Vista was originally chosen to be QV and then not again.  But when they could have had a new smaller cruise ship designed specifically for Cunard why did they instead go with a design from another line within the Carnival group?  The obvious assumption is financial, but was there ever anything said about the choice to go with the Vista Class from Cunard/Carnival explaining their reasoning?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 12, 2010, 08:42 PM
I'm sure the financial benefits are considerable across Carnival's entire Vista class fleet.

Not just the cost of building the thing, but running it too.  In terms of everything from staff training, staff being able to work of any Vista ship and be familiar with their environment, to maintenance and repair, provisioning, refits etc a standard class makes more sense.

It's a shame the exterior design is less than inspiring.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 13, 2010, 07:26 AM
Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Alastair Greener's video clip of the float-out.

Youtube page also has other clips showing the development of QE
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: andy liney on Jan 13, 2010, 09:51 AM
I'm sure the financial benefits are considerable across Carnival's entire Vista class fleet.

Not just the cost of building the thing, but running it too.  In terms of everything from staff training, staff being able to work of any Vista ship and be familiar with their environment, to maintenance and repair, provisioning, refits etc a standard class makes more sense.

It's a shame the exterior design is less than inspiring.

It's also Panamax class - the biggest you can get through the Panama Canal.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Jan 13, 2010, 01:46 PM
Im sorry but i really cannot stand this ship. Why is she carrying that name?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 13, 2010, 11:20 PM

Is there a competion somewhere to see who builds the uglyiest ship? This makes me wanna throw up.

Louis
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 13, 2010, 11:26 PM
No, it's just marine architecture following land architecture trends.  We had grand classic, then we had blocks of flats, now we're at the monstrous carbuncle stage... ;D
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jan 14, 2010, 01:25 PM
Quite a few comments on We Are Cunard also refer to QE  being "the ugly sister".
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 14, 2010, 04:52 PM
Cunard will have to scrub those from their site.  I am thinking of asking how they are addressing the buckling floors in cabins in the existing QV and if there were changes made, structurally, to QE on the Cunard Facebook site.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: luzparis on Jan 14, 2010, 09:01 PM
after the norwegian Epic Cunard create the Queen "Epic"abeth I hope cunard dont' want to create a new ship with the Grand Princess class :-X
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: cunardqueen on Jan 14, 2010, 09:44 PM
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Does anyone else get the impression that all these extra bits with enclosed space are there just for the purpose of boosting the GRT figure so that in the press QE will seem to be bigger than she is?  Remember - it's the GRT figure which the press use to compare these ships...

As with any Queen, size is always an issue, no matter what they say :o
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 14, 2010, 11:12 PM
The new 'Games Deck canvas covering' looks like a toilet seat!

Yes it does! ;D  I am running out of reasons why I want to take the maiden Transatlantic Crossing on her. :-\
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 15, 2010, 06:27 AM
Ken
At least you'll be able to see the qV from the qE... :)
Whereas those on the qV won't have the same opportunity of viewing the ship
that would seem to be emerging by repute, as the better looking of the Vista Sistas!!
Maybe it won't be long before they are both subjected to a Poll on The Forum...Hmm



Here's more about qE
including the next YouTube clip
http://wearecunard.com/2010/01/queen-elizabeth’s-float-out-ceremony-on-video-–-part-2/
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jan 15, 2010, 05:05 PM
Why have they already smashed the champagne bottle? I thought they do that during the naming ceremony.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 15, 2010, 05:08 PM
As with any Queen, size is always an issue, no matter what they say :o

And what Queen are you referring to Myles?  :o ::)  Is that a "snarky" comment?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 16, 2010, 11:48 AM
Thanks to Liners' List, I have just had a lot of fun looking through the 20 short-listed designs in a sculpture competition for the Queen Elizabeth. The story is here (you could even win a cruise on the QE!) :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/6995832/Cunard-sculpture-competition.html

and the 20 designs are here :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturepicturegalleries/6988902/Cunard-Competition.html

Looking through these designs, I was very tempted to apply two distinct criteria : which ones did I like best, and which ones did I think would suit QE best? There are even some there where the two criteria might overlap.  :)

I really like the idea of a sculpture competition, open to the general public. Well done, whoever thought of that!

Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 16, 2010, 10:31 PM
It will probably end up looking like none of them.  Like Blue Peter competitions.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 17, 2010, 12:16 AM
FYI, I posted my question regarding the floor plate buckling issue on both QV and what they might have changed on QE to the Cunard Facebook page.  Let's see if there is a response.  I believe I posted a fair question and concern.  I most assuredly do not want to be in one of those cabins for a crossing if it as bad as has been reported.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 17, 2010, 12:21 AM
Large gaps appearing between fittings and the floor during flexing are surely a serious H&S concern, aren't they?  Suppose a passenger or crew member fell over at the wrong moment and got injured when the gap closed up again?

It's a possibility - if the plates flex as much as in those stories, any furnishings on the affected areas are not going to flex with the floor are they?

So yes, apart from being alarming it is a very serious concern and therefore a very valid and legitimate question.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Tom on Jan 18, 2010, 02:27 AM
Kenneth,

You probably would have to post it on Cunard's wall if you want to get a response.  They most likely wouldn't delete such a post, but I find it incredibly unlikely that they would answer it.  First off, what proof is there to confirm that such a buckling problem does exist?  Passenger experiences, including the testimony from those passengers in that court case, aren't exactly "bulletproof"; people often exaggerate the state of such conditions.  Everything that supports the idea of there being a "flexing issue" is merely subjective.  Unless tests have been conducted onboard the vessel by a professional team looking for abnormal noise and vibration conditions, there is no tangible (therefore, no credible) evidence to suggest that such a problem exists.  As a result, Cunard can choose to deny the problem all together.

In the unlikely event that they do admit to some sort of "issue", do you think that one of the company's Cruise Directors would have any sort of detailed technical information regarding their vessels?  It's the public relations people that run the Facebook page; not the designers and engineers behind the technical aspects of the ships, and getting in touch with them (let alone convincing them to admit to a major issue with their company's ships on the record) is ridiculously unlikely.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 18, 2010, 05:57 AM
Tom, I will post the question on the wall and see what happens. No harm in trying to get an answer.  Maybe it's not going to get answered by Allistar, but he surely can get in touch with someone to get an answer.  He has been reporting on the build progress of QE so I do think he is keenly aware of the construction process now.

Regarding the flexing, buckling floor plates, and structural issues, they are documented here in this thread.
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,211.60.html  I do not think this is a structural issue in the broad sense, but more like a comfort factor for those in the cabins experiencing the flexing.  I recall seeing the carpet move a bit on QE2 in heavy seas and had no concern whatsoever that the ship was unsafe.  My cabin creaked alot, but you would too after 40 years of flexing, but the buckling of floor plates is a different sound altogether.

Lloyds flagged the cracks for monitoring so they are indeed real.  Given the fact the recent court decision exposed the issue, with resulting negative press, I would think Cunard would want to get out in front of this issue and deal with it.  I really am curious if they made any changes on QE to address this such as adding additional floor stiffeners.  Could be a simple as welding in additional t-shaped sections in the floor plates.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Tom on Jan 18, 2010, 09:11 AM
It doesn't seem like the passengers in this court case were experienced cruisers, and didn't seem to understand the concept that they were on a moving ship at sea.  I personally believe the whole thing is an overreaction to something that really isn't an issue at all.

I followed that link to the Lloyd's Register Vessel Status page, yet I couldn't find any mention of any sort of crack, let alone any sort of issues with the ship.  Perhaps I'm looking at the wrong page?  Could you help point me in the right direction?  Even if there were cracks in the ship's hull, it isn't unheard of for ships to develop cracks in service.  Look at QE2's patch covered aluminum superstructure.  Not quite the same thing, but it shows that the problem is completely manageable with proper care.

Looking forward to a reply from Cunard about this, but I still doubt that they would try to "get out in front of this issue and deal with it".  The news surrounding it has died down, and I'm sure Cunard is smart enough not to bring up bad publicity.  Do you remember any official Cunard statements about the metal fatigue in QE2's aluminum superstructure?  They dealt with it properly, but didn't go out of their way to mention anything about it publicly.  Why would they do any different now?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 18, 2010, 08:42 PM
I'm sure lessons learnt will be applied to the new QE.

So do we go on the ugly stronger one, or the slightly less ugly flexing one?

It does make you wonder the wisdom of choosing the Vista class for vessels that would be crossing the Atlantic.  It can't be good for them structurally, to be compromised in this way.

My first voyage on the QE2 on 2 deck pretty much as far forward as you could go, I slept like a log!  I would have no issue sleeping in a forward cabin on her again!  But the QV and QE..........
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 19, 2010, 08:56 AM
The next installment!

wearecunard.com/2010/01/meet-queen-elizabeth’s-madrina/ (http://wearecunard.com/2010/01/meet-queen-elizabeth’s-madrina/)
Title: The Three Elizabeth's - an image
Post by: Chris Frame on Jan 21, 2010, 03:37 AM
(http://wearecunard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/photo-43-300x203.jpg)
Title: QE (3) and Britannia Image
Post by: Chris Frame on Jan 21, 2010, 03:40 AM
Is this an edited version of the one hung aboard QE2?

(http://wearecunard.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/photo-33.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 21, 2010, 04:05 AM
It sure looks like it and they used Queen Victoria for the image as well.  It does not have the "toilet seat" change for the sports area above the bridge shown.   :o
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: citrail on Jan 24, 2010, 10:45 PM
is this the QE in Italy, taken today from the new Costa Deliziosa webcam?

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/Citrail/th_Image_Camera1_ship35__15-01-2010_09.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/Citrail/?action=view&current=Image_Camera1_ship35__15-01-2010_09.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Bob C. on Jan 24, 2010, 10:53 PM
Not QE.  Livery on funnels is Holland America Line.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 24, 2010, 11:00 PM
It must be the Nieuw Amsterdam, sistership to the Eurodam and the QV/QV cousins.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: citrail on Jan 24, 2010, 11:07 PM
Thanks for the info, that's one of the troubles with these new ships, they all look the same. Well, excluding the Norwegian Epic that is! :o
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 24, 2010, 11:15 PM
I'm guessing, knowing that the Nieuw Amsterdam is a sistership to Eurodam, and that Fincantieri is building all the Vista's or whatever they are calling them now for Carnival Corp.  I wonder if they get a discount since they are churning these out quite frequently now?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 24, 2010, 11:18 PM
It must be the Nieuw Amsterdam, sistership to the Eurodam and the QV/QV cousins.
snigger  ::)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 24, 2010, 11:37 PM
Their ugliness is obviously genetic.  Had to look up that word too, snigger, that is!  There isn't an icon to describe my stomach churning I get when I see one of the Vistas from the selections above Rob, yet.  ;D

Okay, now back to the most beautiful ship in the world.  ;D
Title: Float out of the new Cunard (queen)
Post by: pete cain on Jan 26, 2010, 04:26 PM
I came upon these shots   http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html, on Google c/o Maritime matters, I'm not the least bit interested in this vessel except for photos 9, 10 , 11. What the h*** is that big glasshouse thingy atop the bridge, is it permanent, or just for the build process??. If it's permanent ,  then they've rendered another ugly duckling into something else completely, hpoe it's well anchored down.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Jan 27, 2010, 11:37 AM
I came upon these shots   http://maritimematters.com/QEtransfer.html, on Google c/o Maritime matters, I'm not the least bit interested in this vessel except for photos 9, 10 , 11. What the h*** is that big glasshouse thingy atop the bridge, is it permanent, or just for the build process??. If it's permanent ,  then they've rendered another ugly duckling into something else completely, hpoe it's well anchored down.

 It is the canvas covering for the 'Games Deck' and yes, its permanent!! :-X
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 27, 2010, 11:49 AM
Translation: Back up sail in case of loss of engine power... ;D
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Jan 28, 2010, 06:53 AM
Rolling, rolling on floor laughing. So when I go to view this new q
Title: the new one
Post by: cos918 on Feb 10, 2010, 10:38 PM
Found this on the net . That not a liner but a car ferry with out the cars.

John
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Feb 11, 2010, 12:13 AM
*wipes results of spluttering off screen*
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Feb 11, 2010, 09:16 AM
What a fugly stern. Looks worse than a box-boat (container ship)! I really will have to protect my glasses and camera when I view THIS ship!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: skilly56 on Feb 11, 2010, 11:49 PM
Ken,

In answer to your question as to why Carnival are getting these ships built in Italy - I have been led to believe they are getting a discount on each hull - SO LONG AS THEY EMPLOY 'X' NUMBER OF ITALIANS ON BOARD.

This gives the Italian shipbuilders continual work, then gives sea-going employment to their nationals as well. All the 'Grand Princess' class ships were built in Italy, and also have a high percentage of Italian crew.

Why didn't Britain think of doing this - it would have kept many shipyards going, and given employment as well.

I know one young officer who, after first hand experience, has given Princess ships a miss because
a. he doesn't want to have to learn the language to understand what is going on, and
b. a few years back a group of Italian cadets had a go at him because he wants to work for his money. Fortunately, this ship had a UK bosun on board, who backed the lone cadet up when the latter had to physically convince the Italian cadets that his work ethic was correct (ie, he was happy to work for his meals and his money), and theirs was wrong. I'm not saying all Italians have this work ethic - recently I met a couple of Italian officer's who thoroughly enjoy their jobs and DO do a good days work from all reports. There is always good and bad every where, and I hope the above statement doesn't offend anyone.

Skilly
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Feb 12, 2010, 03:32 AM
Thanks Skilly for the insight on Fincantieri.  Having sailed on the Costa Magica, but by Fincantieri, the fit and finish on the ship was excellent.  It would be interesting to get a count of how many ships they have turned out for the carnival fleet. 

We also found the mixture of crew on Costa pretty much like on Cunard, but ovbiously with mainly Italian ships officers and Italian instead of UK flavor in the staff. 

Giving the Vista hull design some further thought here, while there is some economy in using a proven basic hull design, the naval architects still had alot of work at hand in the lengthening, recaulculating scantlings for the steel, and rebalancing the hull with all the changes in layout from previous Vistas.  With the yard having built so many of these designs now, there must be cost savings involved all around.

As the last post illustrates, the rear end is far from "liner-like."  With all the flat sections aft, the hull cannot possibly have the ride and seakeeping abilities of QE2, but I suppose that is the trade-off for a design that makes a few crossings a year verses one designed for weekly service.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Tom on Feb 12, 2010, 06:39 AM
Fincantieri have completed 35 ships for Carnival Corporation over the years with 5 more currently under construction (Carnival Magic, Queen Elizabeth, Nieuw Amsterdam, Costa Deliziosa, and Azura).  Holland America Lines have 13 (4 Vista Class, 1 Modified Vista Class, 4 R-Class, 4 S-Class).  Their entire fleet with the exception of Prinsendam was constructed in Fincantieri yards.  Princess has had 4 vessels built for them after they merged with Carnival Corporation, all of which are Grand Class vessels.  However, a large majority of Princess ships had been constructed in Italy before Carnival purchased them.  P&O has had 3 vessels built for them after being purchased by Carnival (1 Vista Class and 2 Grand Class).  Costa has had 6 vessels built for them (2 Destiny Class, 2 Concordia Class, and 3 Modified Vista Class).  Cunard has had 1 vessel built for them, the Queen Victoria, a Modified Vista Class.

So, all together, Fincantieri has built 5 Vista Class vessels and 3 Modified Vista Class vessels (in which the exterior structure had been significantly altered from the original 5 built for Holland America Line and P&O) with 3 more Modified Vista Class vessels still under construction.

As with regards to her far from liner-like stern, she is not by any means a transatlantic express liner and has been designed as such.  The seakeeping abilities of QE2 are totally unnecessary for the types of itineraries that she will be running.  In fact, the lost space used in designing a more traditional shaped vessel would be detrimental as it translates to less revenue generating passenger cabins as well as smaller/fewer passenger amenities.  Compare the number and size of public rooms between QE2 and QV, vessels that are roughly the same length and breadth, and the benefits to boxy design become all too clear.  QV has a few double height rooms and several triple height spaces onboard.  These types of double height and triple height spaces are becoming increasingly common on cruise ships.  Additionally, the boxy design is the perfect platform for the all important balcony, an amenity that was out of reach to the vast majority of QE2's passengers and is in high demand by today's cruise market.

QE2 and the new QE are not comparable.  They were built for different markets in different time periods.  QE2 outlived her purpose years ago when QM2 took over Transatlantic crossings.  Her design is horrendously outdated by modern standards and clearly didn't appeal to the majority of the cruising market during her final days as a cruise ship.  Those who didn't appreciate her history were sorely disappointed with the worn, tacky ship that was QE2 towards the end.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: rough crossing on Feb 12, 2010, 09:09 AM
Ken,

In answer to your question as to why Carnival are getting these ships built in Italy - I have been led to believe they are getting a discount on each hull - SO LONG AS THEY EMPLOY 'X' NUMBER OF ITALIANS ON BOARD.

This gives the Italian shipbuilders continual work, then gives sea-going employment to their nationals as well. All the 'Grand Princess' class ships were built in Italy, and also have a high percentage of Italian crew.

Why didn't Britain think of doing this - it would have kept many shipyards going, and given employment as well.
The answer is probably connected to the fact that - if true - the practices are almost certainly contrary to EU regulations - now as we all know, the UK has often complained that not all member states have quite the same degree of respect for these regulations as we do........ 
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: skilly56 on Feb 12, 2010, 10:47 PM
Hi Tom,

Thanks for the Fincantieri rundown - I knew the numbers were getting up there, but the actual figures are a surprise. I have just been told that the Carnival ships get a tax break from the Italian govt so long as they employ a large number of Italian crew. And Italy does have a long shipbuilding history, including some of the fastest warships ever built up until the 1950's (this statement probably doesn't include the UK-built 40-knot Manxman class minelayers of WW II).

I have a lot of photos here of various hull sections of one of the 'Grand' class ships under construction at Fincantieri - they obviously know how to build them properly, but I wonder what the in-service problems have been like. I would think any problems probably get fixed smartly when the customer is Carnival, and they put so much work Fincantieri's way.

Cheers
Skilly
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 13, 2010, 12:05 AM
The answer is probably connected to the fact that - if true - the practices are almost certainly contrary to EU regulations - now as we all know, the UK has often complained that not all member states have quite the same degree of respect for these regulations as we do........ 
Yes indeed. Globalisation is something that the UK appears to have embraced enthusiastically, even though it has resulted in ALL our companies now being foreign owned (e.g. Mini, Rolls-Royce, Bentley, MG, Cunard, Cadburys, HP sauce.... the list is very, very long indeed...)
Title: The new QUEEN ELIZABETH
Post by: Fairfield on Feb 15, 2010, 10:46 AM
Bill Scott in Australia kindly sent me this which he got from an Italian friend of the new QE being floated out at the Fincantieri yard in January.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: cos918 on Feb 16, 2010, 03:13 PM
Was up in the Baltic on a few cruise yesterday . We came back on super star ,she is built by Fincantieri yard. I can help notice the similar shape once you remove the stern doors and add some balconies .

John

Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: luzparis on Feb 16, 2010, 05:58 PM
eheh I love the comparaison !! the back of QE IS HORRIBLE
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Pat Curry on Feb 16, 2010, 09:02 PM
Stap me!!!.  It's a barge.  How dare they call it (and it's not a her) a Queen? 

Well done Cunar**  (rhymes with farce).
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Feb 16, 2010, 10:33 PM
Stap me!!!.  It's a barge.  How dare they call it (and it's not a her) a Queen? 
Sacrilege.  Its just awful, but the name is the worst bit of all, otherwise' she'd just be a cruise ship I'm not interested in, as opposed to one named after one of the most amazing ships of all time.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 23, 2010, 09:21 PM
Cunard announcing some of the Officers appointed to join Captain Wells on Queen Elizabeth
http://www.cunard.com/news/Default.asp?Cat=&View=ViewArticle&Mode=News&ContentID=8381&
(btw, is 'hale' the new hail?)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Feb 23, 2010, 10:39 PM
It is nice to see Hamish Sunter, QE2's last Staff Captain finding a home on the new cruise ship Queen Elizabeth.  All that is missing is the former Master of QE2.  :'(
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 12, 2010, 07:59 AM
Cunard Grills footage and interview with Interior Designer
Alastair Greener and Cunard







And a 'sort of cutaway' model
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2010/03/inside-cunards-queen-elizabeth.html
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 21, 2010, 05:05 PM
Thanks to Liners' List, I have just had a lot of fun looking through the 20 short-listed designs in a sculpture competition for the Queen Elizabeth. The story is here (you could even win a cruise on the QE!) :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/6995832/Cunard-sculpture-competition.html

and the 20 designs are here :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturepicturegalleries/6988902/Cunard-Competition.html

I really like the idea of a sculpture competition, open to the general public. Well done, whoever thought of that!


The results are out, and here they are :

http://wearecunard.com/2010/03/specially-commissioned-sculpture-for-queen-elizabeth-is-revealed/

Seems very strange that the prize winning sculptor will not be creating his own prize winning sculpture...   ???
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Mar 21, 2010, 10:42 PM
^^^^^  That's actually normal practice these days; the creating sculptor will provide the concept and the design but the actual work on the full size thing will be carried out commercially.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Mar 24, 2010, 11:04 AM
I think Cunard should have revived some of the old names ending in "ia" (except for Victoria of course) for the QV & QE hulls instead of using the Queen names - BUT avoiding Lusitania, Mauretania and Aquitania. Saxonia & Devonia would have fitted the bill.

Gav
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010) - Callsign
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 26, 2010, 02:47 PM
Please excuse me if this question has been answered, but do you think QE's call sign be GBQE or... GBTT?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Mar 26, 2010, 03:49 PM
That is an excellent question Chris.  Since QE2 is still registered as a ship, if they kept the same call letters, QE will have to adopt something else.  Perhaps the information on the AIS site will list the current call sign of QE2.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 26, 2010, 03:51 PM
QE2 hasn't been GBTT (the callsign she inherited from Queen Mary) since her re-flagging last year.  As a non-british ship, she can't use a British callsign any more.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 27, 2010, 09:43 AM
As QM2 is "GBQM" and Queen Victoria is "GBQV" I assume Cunard will opt for "GBQE" for Elizabeth.

However, maybe for nostalgia they will make her "GBTT" or - perhaps "GBSS" (the first QE)...
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: bswan on Mar 27, 2010, 11:15 AM
A longer bow would look better
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Mar 27, 2010, 01:54 PM
A longer bow would look better

I'm pretty sure Cunard will go for the easier route of the call sign if they can.  ::) 
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RmsAquitania on Mar 27, 2010, 04:38 PM
When i first looked at the pics of her stern without my specs on I thought I was looking at a bulk carrier.So when I did put me specs on i decided bulk carriers are actually more attractive and with better sea keeping qualities than a vista class neap. Thanks but no thanks in a quaint northern expression  "she llooks a right minger "
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 28, 2010, 10:11 PM
Quote
Thanks but no thanks in a quaint northern expression  "she llooks a right minger "
Well... thats one way of putting it....  ;)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 09, 2010, 10:00 PM
qe3 - definitely NOT Queen Elizabeth 2 as in the link :'(
http://wearecunard.com/2010/04/breaking-news-–-the-latest-pictures-of-queen-elizabeth-2/

Surely, there can't EVER be another Yacht Club - there's something about an 'impostor' here!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: cunardqueen on Apr 09, 2010, 10:49 PM
There is only one Yacht Club...  ;)

Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Apr 09, 2010, 11:29 PM
"There can be only one"  a little Highlander movie humor.  ;)

I just can't get excited about this cruise ship.  Where is the excitement that was building towards the launch of QM2 at the same time?  I'm definitely not scouring the internet looking for the latest construction pics of QE.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on Apr 12, 2010, 06:31 PM
Six months from today, Queen Elizabeth will set sail on her maiden voyage.

Matt
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 12, 2010, 06:33 PM
I'm counting the days  ;D
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 12, 2010, 07:12 PM
Hmm...just noted that Captain Wells will be Master on qV from the end of April.
Hopefully he'll take some of the qV's good spirit with him to qE3 for her Maiden voyage...
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: andyh on Apr 30, 2010, 05:39 PM
Six months from today, Queen Elizabeth will set sail on her maiden voyage.

Matt

And we will be on her  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Apr 30, 2010, 11:39 PM
^^^^^

At least if you're on board her you can't see her...
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RmsAquitania on May 05, 2010, 10:04 PM
I still dont think she deserves or should be called a queen, after all all the cunard queens up to, and including qm2, were built for speed and each looked different not part of a mass produced model like the lada !
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on May 08, 2010, 10:42 AM
Made by vessel87
(Does this need an Adults Only Cert.?)
Title: Re: 2006 World Cruise / Cunard to retain QE2 for further 10-12 years...
Post by: Peter Mugridge on May 16, 2010, 11:29 PM
I've been wondering whether she will in fact end up with the "3" suffix by default given the name of one of the two new aircraft carriers being built...
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on May 17, 2010, 02:28 AM
The new cruise ship is called QE3 in our household to avoid any confusion with the real Queen Elizabeth.  >:(
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on May 20, 2010, 10:11 AM
New microsite for QE3:   http://queenelizabeth.cunard.com/latest-news/     
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Matt on May 20, 2010, 07:02 PM
They need a huge shrine to QE2 on this ship! Aswell as the original QE!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on May 20, 2010, 07:47 PM
'The World Awaits'
Cunard have issued a Press Release, giving information regarding a panel designed by David Linley in the 'Grand Lobby'

Cunard's Press Release includes:
Quote
...
Queen Elizabeth joins the Cunard fleet in October 2010 as the sixth Cunard Queen in Cunard’s illustrious 170 years history and the second largest Cunarder ever built. She will be the third Cunard Queen to bear the name Elizabeth and will join her sisters Queen Mary 2 and Queen Victoria as part of the youngest fleet in the world. Her unique style and personality will bear tribute to her forebears Queen Elizabeth and QE2....
...One challenge for Queen Elizabeth’s designers was how to treat the significant central space on the sweeping staircase in the ship’s soaring Grand Lobby.
Cunard’s President and Managing Director, Peter Shanks, says:
“We needed to fill that space with something which would not just be dramatic but which would also reflect our emphasis on traditional and sumptuous materials. After much thought and exploratory work, it was decided to commission a 5.6-metre (18 ft 6 in) high marquetry panel depicting the original Queen Elizabeth, an Art Deco icon, using a variety of natural woods from around the world.
“Once we had decided on the theme and the medium, it didn’t take us long to conclude that no-one was better qualified for this work than the company of the exceptional craftsman David Linley, whose creative ability and mastery of wood is renowned”. 
http://www.cunard.co.uk/news/default.asp?Cat=&View=ViewArticle&Mode=News&ContentID=7683&Active=News

And from Liners List, Ray Goldenberg writes:
Quote
....Commenting on the challenges faced by the bespoke commission, Linley's
Chairman, David Linley, who founded the company in 1985, says:
"Though we have made fittings for luxury yachts in the past, this is the
first sea-going work we have done on this scale - it is certainly the
largest screen we have ever made - but it was a commission I was
delighted to accept. I recall my father saying the interior design on
Cunard's Queen Elizabeth 2 made one proud to be British, so I am hoping
our achievement on the new Queen Elizabeth will make him - and others -
equally proud".....

David Linley is the son the late Princess Margaret and Lord Snowden.
They were particularly interested in QE2 and Patrons in the British art world of the 1960's and beyond
There's a fine shop owned by David Linley in London - he and colleagues make good things!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: cunardqueen on May 20, 2010, 09:27 PM
The Queen Mary in Long Beach has this magnificent display of woods used onboard.


(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4585/hotelqueenmary146.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on May 21, 2010, 05:42 AM

And here it is...

http://wearecunard.com/2010/05/linley-artwork-revealed-for-queen-elizabeth%E2%80%99s-grand-lobby/

Chris.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Mauretania1907 on May 21, 2010, 05:46 AM
That is a very fine piece of artwork, and really worthy of a Queen (but I am thinking of another Elizabeth that it would look better in, or am I just carping again)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Bob C. on May 22, 2010, 07:36 PM
Forgive me if this is already posted but I just found this picture of a QE cutaway model this morning.  Pretty neat model but QE's design makes her too common to be called a "Queen". 

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/cruise-pictures/  (about half-way down)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jun 03, 2010, 01:21 PM
Take a good look at the Elizabeth's profile here:
http://www.cunard.com/en-au/Ships/Queen-Elizabeth/Deck-Plans/
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 03, 2010, 01:40 PM
Take a good look at the Elizabeth's profile here:
http://www.cunard.com/en-au/Ships/Queen-Elizabeth/Deck-Plans/

Oh dear.  There is nothing of any interest to me there, inside or out.  A floating old people's home, or museum to Olde Englande.  Its outrageous that they dare compare this to QE1 or QE2.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jun 03, 2010, 01:45 PM
She is significantly less attractive than QV.

Externally, that boxy stern and indoor area under the mast make her look quite different to Victoria.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 03, 2010, 02:10 PM
She is significantly less attractive than QV.
... and thats not saying much! (in my humble opinion!)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Bob C. on Jun 03, 2010, 02:46 PM
Sam Cunard must be rolling over in his grave - again.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: skilly56 on Jun 03, 2010, 09:44 PM
You people up there are lucky you can even get this page to load. The page comes up grayed out on my screen, with a window right in the middle, and a message saying, "Cunard have detected that your location is different from your browser setting", and it correctly tells me I am located in NZ. When I click on the NZ button it then takes me immediately to the old virtual tour page, which of course is now corrupted.

Obviously Cunard do not want people to sail with them anymore! If you can't get the info, itineraries, etc from them anymore, one is probably going to head for the P&O site to get the options from over there.
Skilly
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jun 03, 2010, 10:49 PM
Same thing happens me in Belgium... except that Cunard probably spell New Zealand New Zealand, whereas I seem to be allocated to a country they call Belguim...  ???

Actually, I cannot get to anything on the Cunard UK or US web sites at all -- the same box meets me on every page I try. Well, that will be my last attempt for a while!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jun 04, 2010, 12:10 AM
For those of you who can't access the Cunard website, here is an accurate rendering of QE3, most definitely the ugly sister.  Say goodbye to the "liner" like stern profile.  :o 
(http://highlander0108.smugmug.com/photos/888955676_VgRBB-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 04, 2010, 12:20 AM
Its a good job she's got bad copies of QE2's funnel and mast, otherwise she might look really bad.

<cough>.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: citrail on Jun 04, 2010, 12:59 AM
Quote "Please wait for the deckplans to load"

I think I can :(
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Jun 04, 2010, 07:07 AM
The funnel looks fairly O>K. but the mast looks stupid and skinny, and Now I see her in all her boxy (poxy) glory, I really can say that Q Viky and Scary Mary are at least a bit better looking. THIS looks like a ship-lovers bad dream. UGH.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jun 10, 2010, 09:24 PM
Oh dear! I was going to give her a chance but this is bad.

I hope Cunard introduce a new liner not a vista class clone or another clone a NEW liner with proper lines, captures the present day and named in a gracious way. Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth and QE2 are all icons because they were representing their era and the era they came from. Queen Mary 2 on the other hand is the only true liner ship Cunard has now.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jun 10, 2010, 10:40 PM
Oh dear! I was going to give her a chance but this is bad.

I hope Cunard introduce a new liner not a vista class clone or another clone a NEW liner with proper lines, captures the present day and named in a gracious way. Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth and QE2 are all icons because they were representing their era and the era they came from. Queen Mary 2 on the other hand is the only true liner ship Cunard has now.

You're young.  Perhaps this will happen in your lifetime, but don't bet on it.  >:(  I'm hoping to still be around when Cunard faces a similar debacle on what to do with a beloved liner, the QM2.  There was mention of additional demand potentially for liners in the last Carnival UK report on the state of the cruise industry, but given the state of the economy, I suspect those far off plans are on hold.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jun 10, 2010, 11:14 PM
I know a ship can't come close to QE2 but I just wish they can make another proper liner. If they do bring in a new ship it might not be built in the U.K which is the sad thing.

I'm proud to say QE2 is my generation as she was converted to be more newer in the late 80s early 90s which she became known as the "new" QE2. When I have children and grandchildren I'll tell them that QE2 represented us as a country during my era and something I'm proud of. I felt the same when she was cruising and I am proud to say she was cruising around the world representing us. But now we have this awful boxy and bloated looking ship representing us.

That wasn't meant at QM2 by the way its the new QE.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jun 20, 2010, 07:33 PM
Here's a link to the next video clip of Queen Elizabeth in Fincantieri with Alistair Greener
posted by CunardQueens
http://vodpod.com/watch/3869018-wearecunard-queen-elizabeth-blog-part-1
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Jun 21, 2010, 07:30 AM
I had a good look at the view Highlander posted (8 posts above) and if my eyes don't decieve me, Tin Lizzie seems to be floating on her keel (have a look at  the reflection below her.) Either the artist wanted to show her underwater shape for some reason, or she's a hovercraft! ;D
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jun 21, 2010, 08:34 PM
Where is the link to the deckplans?  Sorry but I couldn't find it.  Thanks in advance.

For those of you who can't access the Cunard website, here is an accurate rendering of QE3, most definitely the ugly sister.  Say goodbye to the "liner" like stern profile.  :o 
(http://highlander0108.smugmug.com/photos/888955676_VgRBB-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: luzparis on Jun 21, 2010, 09:52 PM
i can't to see the link here in france it's impossible !! grrr everytime when i click the virtual visit i finnish at frenchwebsite cunard !!but i don't like the look of this ship!!ugly
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jun 21, 2010, 10:28 PM
Is that pod the wrong way round in that illustration?  Or do they have their propellors at the front?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Twynkle on Jun 21, 2010, 11:40 PM
Peter
You might find this interesting  :)
These are QM2's azipods
http://navy-matters.beedall.com/cvf6.htm
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Jeff Taylor on Jun 22, 2010, 12:26 AM
The props on pods face forward so they can bite better on undisturbed water.  Seems counterintuitive, but it works.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jun 22, 2010, 12:27 AM
Is that pod the wrong way round in that illustration?  Or do they have their propellors at the front?

The illustration is correct, with the props at the front for better efficiency in uninterupted water.  Also, these pods are "Azipods", manufacturered by ABB Azipod, if they use the same ones as were installed on QV.  QM2's problematic pods are from a different manufacturer, which is now Rolls-Royce, who probably are regretting buying the company with all the problems they have had.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: skilly56 on Jun 22, 2010, 05:50 AM
Thrust Efficiency - that is why prop-driven aircraft also have the propeller at the front. It gives an uninterrupted airflow in to the  blades. I shudder to think what a pusher-prop Spitfire or Lancaster would have looked like. However, having the propeller on the front does interfere with airflow over the wings.

Post WWII the Americans built a large bomber with pusher props-the B36. It's performance was so poor they then added jet engines to it as well. Even then it wasn't a big hit!

By the way, the concept of having electric motors mounted underwater (but outside of the hull) is very old technology. Bow thrusters are normally diesel engine or electric motor powered, but the prime mover is mounted INSIDE the hull.

The NZ gov't had a research ship (it was the old German 'Meteor') which had an active rudder unit - ie, underwater electric motor driving a propeller, with the complete system mounted inside the rudder.

One ship that I was C/E on for many years actually had an electric motor mounted inside a steel tube that ran fore & aft through the rudder casing, with a nozzle on the aft end to aid the 4-bladed propeller efficiency and also protect the blades. The rudder can swing 82 degrees to Port or Stbd, so the 'active rudder' was the ship's stern thruster as well. With no main engines running, the ship could do 5 - 6 knots on the rudder motor alone, powered by 2 of the generators in parallel.

Once over 5 knots, the 'active rudder' motor is stopped, whereapon the 4 blades then rotate through 90 degrees from the Zero pitch position to the fully feathered position, so they create no drag. It pays NOT to initiate the start procedure when above 8 - 10 knots. Unfeathering the stowed blades tends to have a very expensive result, but this can only happen when the interlocks fail.

The motor, propeller and nozzle unit are made in Europe (by Pleuger) and, when mounted in a tube, were frequently dropped from a Hercules aircraft into the flooded lowlands of Holland, where they were aimed over the dykes into the sea, then started up (with portable generators driving them). This is a very effective way of pumping out the flooded lowlands. We call it the "Unterwasserpushenpullinpumpen"

Having the main propeller wake passing through the nozzle also made it a very nice steering ship.

Skilly
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jun 22, 2010, 09:29 PM
http://www.cunard.com/en-gb/Ships/Queen-Elizabeth/Deck-Plans/ (http://www.cunard.com/en-gb/Ships/Queen-Elizabeth/Deck-Plans/)

It is a clever Virtual Tour.

But I hope you all visit my QE2 Virtual Tour and not this one!!!!
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jun 25, 2010, 02:29 AM
Photos of QE on We Are Cunard:  

http://wearecunard.com/2010/06/the-latest-pictures-of-queen-elizabeth-as-she-powers-herself-for-the-first-time/
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jun 29, 2010, 01:47 PM
I think this Queen Elizabeth should have been made into a express ocean liner out of tribute to the previous Queen Elizabeth's. A modified QM2 or a newer rendition of QE2?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: highlander0108 on Jul 08, 2010, 12:15 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/hampshire/10540189.stm
I like how the name QE2 so easily rolls off the tongue in the video.  I cannot get tired of hearing it mentioned, especially with a British accent.  Obviously she's still dear to the hearts of many in the UK.  Looks like Hamish Sunter is trying at least to put a positive spin on the new ship.  How long will he last?
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: richc1977 on Jul 08, 2010, 09:47 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/england/hampshire/10540189.stm

I like (not) how the article says "the black and white hull marks out this ship as a cut above the typical white floating block of flats that so many of the current cruise ships resemble".

Extraordinary statement, given the way the new QE looks.  Even more "blocky" than the Queen Victoria.  And also given that she is another Vista-class off-the-shelf cruise ship.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 08, 2010, 10:24 PM
I like (not) how the article says "the black and white hull marks out this ship as a cut above the typical white floating block of flats that so many of the current cruise ships resemble".

Extraordinary statement, given the way the new QE looks.  Even more "blocky" than the Queen Victoria.  And also given that she is another Vista-class off-the-shelf cruise ship.
I agree!  I've emailed Paul Clifton because it reads like a Cunard advert and twice refers to it as a replacement for QE2 which it patently is not!  QM2 is absolutely QE2s replacement - and if you're only talking about her 2000s med cruises perhaps you could argue that QV replaces them, but I dont see how qE can be called QE2s replacement - it really annoys me.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Jul 11, 2010, 05:00 AM
I saw that today and thought the same thing, Rob and Richard.  I really bothered me too.  She is clearly not a replacement to QE2, QM2 (sorry "Queen Mary 2") was/is that.  I'm glad you wrote to them Rob.  I'd be curious to hear if they reply.
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 12, 2010, 11:25 AM
With a tiny bit of Photoshop Work and now QV looks like QE...

http://www.chriscunard.com/queen_elizabeth.php

Title: Re: QE (2010) Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Stowaway2k on Aug 03, 2010, 05:16 PM
While Cunard is second-to-none in their use of marketing hyperbole, this "The World Awaits" slogan they've adopted for QE has me wondering if the next time I see it, I'll need a doctor to pry my eyes back into position after they roll back into my head again...   ;)
Title: Re: QE (2010) Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 05, 2010, 10:27 AM
Its that old chestnut again Myles....

MONEY!
Title: Re: QE (2010) Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: cunardqueen on Aug 05, 2010, 06:35 PM
Quote
....been waitlisted but thats a waste of time

I have no faith in the waitlist system. Friends were waitlisted via Cunard for a QE2 voyage. But thanks to a travel agent who somehow got in there very quick with their system got them a cabin they wanted and before they knew it there were confirmed as passengers. The waitlist just carried on,and l fear like many folks people just assume when your on it thats the only way!! If only indeed ::) Now is it fair or not? Im inclined to say No that isnt fair, But in saying that l would have no problem in trying any method to get on a special sailing.
 Rather like booking with an agent who promises you the lowest fare ::) Its all very well till you show them  a lower fare.
Title: Re: QE (2010) Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: highlander0108 on Aug 06, 2010, 10:54 PM
Check out what ship is illustrated in this Fox News article on QE(3).  Mind you, it is the only picture in the story.   ;D 
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2010/08/05/queen-elizabeth-makes-debut/
Title: Re: QE (2010) Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Aug 06, 2010, 10:59 PM
That's not the only blunder they've made; look at the file name in "properties"... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 27, 2010, 10:01 AM
More about the new Queen Elizabeth
Click on 'HERE' for images half way down the article
http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/post/2010/08/cunard-queen-elizabeth-cruise-ship-mary-2-line-sneak-peek/102045/1?loc=interstitialskip
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Sep 01, 2010, 08:03 PM
I think this Queen Elizabeth should have been made into a express ocean liner out of tribute to the previous Queen Elizabeth's. A modified QM2 or a newer rendition of QE2?
I agree with every word you say here,....would have had MUCH more prestige  and class also more in keeping with Cunard lineage instead of the 2 ugly sisters,,..they are just wasting Cunard with this stupid branding nonsense and churning out ships like buses.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Sep 10, 2010, 02:58 PM
Here's an opportunity to go on board without an invitation the The Lunch!
You just need an email address, password and a fair amount of luck!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1310748/Win-fabulous-voyage-new-Queen-Elizabeth-worth-4-000.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Title: Re: Queen Elizabeth (2010)
Post by: matdark on Sep 21, 2010, 06:32 PM
I think this Queen Elizabeth should have been made into a express ocean liner out of tribute to the previous Queen Elizabeth's. A modified QM2 or a newer rendition of QE2?

I think it's all we wished had happened! I made this back a few years ago(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_xwp_woWPd1s/SLdY3d80HnI/AAAAAAAACfU/EHYB9nxz-Ws/s1024/qe.jpg)
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Oct 01, 2010, 02:12 PM
Something from The Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/cruises/8036228/Cruises-Queen-Elizabeth-sneak-preview.html
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Magic Pipe on Oct 03, 2010, 06:49 PM
If anyone is curious to hear the new Queen Elizabeth's horn, it can be heard 6 minutes into this video of her leaving the shipyard.

Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: highlander0108 on Oct 04, 2010, 12:52 AM
I wonder if that whistle heard before and during the back and forth is mounted on a ship or a building?  QE sounds like QV to me anyway.  I thought the QV sound was not bad at all, hearing it in person, but of course, no comparision to QE2.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Oct 04, 2010, 06:34 PM
I'm going to take a picture of the third Queen Elizabeth with me on Wednesday to a day centre I go to and I'll show it to a gentleman I know and see what he thinks of the new QE. He use to help the liners out of port by tugs and he saw QE2.

I'll post back and tell you all if he likes her or not.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Oct 21, 2010, 11:03 AM
I spluttered a bit last night when I found QE(3) described on You Tube as an RMS....
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Oct 21, 2010, 04:19 PM
I spluttered a bit last night when I found QE(3) described on You Tube as an RMS....

As Victor Meldrew would say


I DON'T BELIEVE IT!


words fail me!

But I think Cunard have managed this all by themselves by promoting the vista jobs as liners... they are trying to brainwash the world with this statement,,,.and lets be fair the general public ALWAYS think  Cunard have only liners  so it ends up a very confusing scenario all around...
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Oct 21, 2010, 04:49 PM
I have been looking around the Cunard website a bit during quiet moments this afternoon and I notice one or two interesting points:

1) Menus - click on the QE menus and they link to the QV menus ( look at the URL on the window the page opens in ).  So I'm guessing that even the food is completely identical between the two; the menus also do not look any different from those on QM2?  Just wondering whether each of the three ships offers the same menu on the same day even?

2) Now, I'm sure that I recall having a cooked bacon and eggs type breakfast on QE2 but the option appears to be absent from the current vessels?  Or does it just not appear on the example breakfast menu page on the website?  ( Or do I need to go to Specsavers?! )

3) Little surprise that the same photographs are used for the accomodation areas on both QE and QV as the ships are twins, but what does surprise me is that the style of the cabins is completely different from the style of the public areas of the ships - I had been hoping to find that a few cabins were in a matching 1930s look wood decor style.

4) Going back to the accomodation, I found the Britannia oceaview cabin pictures with the large double window, but how near to the waterline are these cabins?  Are they close enough to experience the same effect of water rushing past while at sea as with the M4 and M5 on QE2?
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: cunardqueen on Oct 21, 2010, 06:28 PM
Quote
  2) Now, I'm sure that I recall having a cooked bacon and eggs type breakfast on QE2 but the option appears to be absent from the current vessels?  Or does it just not appear on the example breakfast menu page on the website?  ( Or do I need to go to Specsavers?! )

 
I can see the option for Fried or scrambled eggs, but nothing for boiled eggs
And the bacon choices are there, loved the American bacon on QE2

Im traumatised to see no option for cinnamon toast, That was always a firm favourite on my plate on QE2   
There does appear to be more a menu style with choices where as l like to build my own so to speak, And who wouldnt kill for a QE2 lido breakfast..

Interesting to hear on the QE from a few single travellers is that on QM2 its nearly impossible to find a table by yourself, and when you do find a table and need to get your next items if you leave by the time you come back its all cleared away and taken by fellow travellers and so the hunt for a table continues, one friend recently told me he had 4 tables for breakfast.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Oct 21, 2010, 06:50 PM
And pray for us lazy mortals who have breakfast wheeled into ones stateroom..!! ;) ;).the full cooked monty.....complete with danish pastries all beautifully presented on little lacy doilles...

dont tell me it's now just a continental brekky I can have in bed?
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: cunardqueen on Oct 21, 2010, 09:44 PM
Cruise princess, Working in a hotel, you have no idea what a nightmare it is to provide the hot breakfast to the rooms. Its the one thing l really hate doing, Granted on QE2 the room service cards are great help and the stewards are forwarned what is required and how many. There is nothing worse than being half way to a room and realising something is missing, and then you get to hear oh this was cold or that didnt suit, and then if you need to remove the tray(s) and find they havent eaten it all, that makes my blood boil.
Mindyou l had no qualms at ordering the late night BLTs with assorted extras, so maybe l had better shut up ;)
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Oct 21, 2010, 10:34 PM
dont tell me it's now just a continental brekky I can have in bed?

If the QE offers the same breakfast choices as the QV then that will be fine with me. 

The breakfast served in our cabin gave a wide choice which included a cooked breakfast if that was what you wanted or you could have a lighter breakfast choice such as fruit, cereal, coffee croisants, danish pastries etc. and of course there is the option to sit on your balcony to eat your breakfast. 

Breakfast served in the Britannia restaurant gave a good choice with some extra choices such as smoked salmon and scrambled egg or bagles which is my favourite. I have seen table companions being served boiled eggs if that was what they wanted.  But cannot remember if cinnamon toast was an option. 

The choice in the QV Lido was excellent but I like a more relaxed breakfast experience and felt that the Lido could be a bit busy.



Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Oct 22, 2010, 10:25 AM
so maybe l had better shut up ;)


YES!!
 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
its the one wee luxury I look fwd to on board!    ;)

Though admittedly I wouldn't like to carry that huge tray!
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 02, 2010, 07:59 AM
The Ultimate in Luxury and Design: Desso Carpet Featured in New Cunard 'Queen ...
http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=302417
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 07, 2010, 08:56 AM
News of passengers who have sailed on the Three Elizabeths and a celebration on MV Queen Elizabeth.
http://wearecunard.com/2010/11/queen-elizabeth-settles-in-to-her-second-voyage/

When MV QE meets QE2, hopefully there will be all due recognition given to QE2 and her amazing capacity to survive!

Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Jan 16, 2011, 10:00 PM
And while I was looking at the lovely cover photo of the QEII bust from QE2 on Cruise Business Review, I discovered this article/review of QE:

http://www.cruisebusiness.com/images/magazines/2010_03/special-report/Pages_76-89_cbr_3_2010a.pdf
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 17, 2011, 05:01 AM
The second image of Queen Elizabeth beneath the rainbow ('portrait') is one that I took during her first TA crossing in tandem with Queen Victoria - lol!
http://wearecunard.com/2011/01/queen-elizabeth-and-queen-victoria’s-historic-tandem-crossing/
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: QE2 whistle on Jan 21, 2011, 12:26 PM
Queen Elizabeth is going through the Panama Canal tomorrow (Saturday).  See www.pancanal.com.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: QE2 whistle on Jan 22, 2011, 01:17 PM
Elizabeth is just approaching the Gatun Locks just now.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: QE2 Canuck on Jan 22, 2011, 04:56 PM
I'm watching her too in the canal.... through a link from Kroooz-cams -Portcams-Central America...link to Panama Canal Schedules through Seacruise forum.   the Miraflores (Pacific side) Hi Res camera does a wonderful job of watching the ships come through and will do closeups if they have time. But as I found out yesterday with Queen Victoria going though, the cameras got slow and didn't refresh as often as they should, prompting an occasional manual refresh.
But what is interesting today, the people who are posting pictures on the Seacruise Forum link today of QE are calling her QE2 on the bottom of each picture..... QE2 is not forgotten.  I guess when you type or say QE  the 2 just jumps in.

QE2 Canuck     Linda C
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on May 03, 2011, 06:13 PM
The Royal Wedding - by Cunard!!
http://wearecunard.com/

Mods -
Am I right in thinking that there used to be a topic for Thomas Quinones on the Forum?
Given that it doesn't seem to be here now,
is it appropriate to add Thomas Quinones on Queen Elizabeth here?
Rosie.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on May 31, 2011, 09:38 AM
More about Elizabeth....again!
http://dreamcruiseguide.com/410/cruise-cunard-queen-elizabeth-for-style-refinement-real-class/#axzz1NuuM6HM6

Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 31, 2011, 10:32 AM
Quite a good review about the ship.  I do not like the bit about passengers referring to Queen Elizabeth as the new QE2.  They would not be doing that in my earshot. 
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: bobso on Jun 04, 2011, 08:43 AM
Here is a link to the new QE--pictures and videos

http://allaboutcunard.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 17, 2011, 01:46 PM
Someone posting on July 13, 2011 at 10:35 am writes:
'If Cunard want to stop the rot in there company, they should check out Rob Lightbodys QE2 site and pay particular interest to his proposed Cunard Classic Cruise plans'

Regarding QE -  it seems that it's 'once more unto the breach...' - for Cunard ;)
http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/blog/?p=3314
(aka -'depression' being the place between expectations and reality!)
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Pat Curry on Jul 17, 2011, 08:06 PM
Someone posting on July 13, 2011 at 10:35 am writes:
'If Cunard want to stop the rot in there company, they should check out Rob Lightbodys QE2 site and pay particular interest to his proposed Cunard Classic Cruise plans'

Sorry  :-[  I'm being thick Rosie, but can you explain a bit more.  Who posted what (in full) and where?   ???
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: skilly56 on Jul 18, 2011, 12:51 AM
After coming off my blood/sweat & tears job in the Indian Ocean last Saturday, I am joining the QE on August 2nd for a month.

As father of QE's 1st Officer/Navigator I cannot post any criticisms (indeed, I do not expect there to be any!), but I will let you know how our cruises go some time in October - I come off the QE, go home to NZ for 3 days, then back to the Indian Ocean for 5 more weeks on my job before returning home again for some 'normal' life.

Cheers

Skilly
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 18, 2011, 10:15 AM
Sorry  :-[  I'm being thick Rosie, but can you explain a bit more.  Who posted what (in full) and where?   ???

Pat - here's the link to the Cruise Critic blog page that the quote was taken from
http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/blog/?p=3314

My post was meant to be about a couple of things - I'm sorry and not surprised that it could have seemed muddled.
Life 'beyond QM2' has been and remains incredibly challenging!

Firstly, that someone's referred to Rob's 'The Forum' etc on Cruise Critic!
and secondly -   that anyone's experience of being on board (any ship) will depend on their expectations, and the difference between these and the reality they find.
Rosie


and
After coming off my blood/sweat & tears job in the Indian Ocean last Saturday, I am joining the QE on August 2nd for a month.

As father of QE's 1st Officer/Navigator I cannot post any criticisms (indeed, I do not expect there to be any!), but I will let you know how our cruises go some time in October - I come off the QE, go home to NZ for 3 days, then back to the Indian Ocean for 5 more weeks on my job before returning home again for some 'normal' life.

Cheers

Skilly

Hi Skilly!
Hope you have a great time both before during and after your travels on QE!  :)
Safe journey north - it's a bit chilly, windy and very wet here too, at the moment ::)
Looking forward to hearing about 'it' all! ;)
Rosie
 



Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Pat Curry on Jul 18, 2011, 08:49 PM
Pat - here's the link to the Cruise Critic blog page that the quote was taken from
http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/blog/?p=3314

My post was meant to be about a couple of things - I'm sorry and not surprised that it could have seemed muddled.
Life 'beyond QM2' has been and remains incredibly challenging!

Firstly, that someone's referred to Rob's 'The Forum' etc on Cruise Critic!
and secondly -   that anyone's experience of being on board (any ship) will depend on their expectations, and the difference between these and the reality they find.
Rosie


No it's not you who is muddled Rosie.

When I added to Rob's fictional CunardClassic, I did say at the time that you never know who might be reading it.
I am still hoping for a knight in white armour to turn fiction into fact. 

And now, as noted elsewhere on this forum, £161m has been recently won by a lucky couple.  Had it been won by a member of this forum, I am sure I know where their priority spend would be.  Sadly, I doubt that the actual winners have QE2 on their list, but one does wonder what they will do with such a massive sum of money.

As for the pax comments on  http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/blog/?p=3314 there does seem to be a lot of anti Cunard vitriol.  I wish I knew why. Dom and I have been on QM2 as as Captain Warwick's and Kim's guests for a pre maiden voyage luncheon, and again for his retirement lunch and both times she was docked at S'ton.  We weren't over impressed with the ship's decor, some of which seemed rather cheap and plastic, but you don't get the full feel of a ship when she is docked.  I have never been on QE and QV.

I notice that members of this forum who are lucky enough to cruise on the three new Queens are growing an affinity for them. I do wonder whether their modernity and 'glamour' fade the memories of QE2.  It would be hardly surprising. 

As to the service being in decline, I cannot say, but being as a number of the senior galley crew are long term Cunarders, and that they have much better equipment, it is not likely that there has been a decline in the standards of the food and cuisine.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 03, 2011, 06:45 PM
QE is looking well - still gleaming, and she's beginning to develop more of a lived-in feel about her.
Importantly, friends working on board are loving the ship - reflecting the happy atmosphere she contains.

I managed to reach places during yesterday's flying visit that I didn't see 4 mths ago.
The 'Grills' restaurant, and The Verandah - ("Todd English", with a significant difference!).
These have been fitted out beautifully - they are stunning.

Then there's The Lido. A more formal Dining Room feel about it, there are proper carver style chairs - it left me wondering about the more casual nature of QV's Lido - as well as the Garden-y sense of the best Lido of all - QE2's  Lido.
On QV (as well as QM2 and QE2) it is lovely to join others for informal lunches...on QE, because of the layout and furniture maybe this will seem different....?

Then - one big concern. I could find nowhere where it's possible to see forward, other than through glass - or on greeeeen grass stuff! (for the latter, think  'smart-naff' - bit like QE2's maybe!!)   
(A friend might kindly do a reccie, there's just one more place for Guests - as yet untried, where the real business of sailing might be properly appreciated and enjoyed.)

Remedy, perhaps??
If the depth of 'barrier' round the Croquet Carpet could be reduced - by say 6 feet the whole way round the bow, then Guests could actually see out.  Maybe Cunard might then choose to adopt a more 'Every day at sea is a Great bad hair day' approach in relation to the Spas. They would be full, the $$$ would grow, and at the same time many of us, careless-about-hair, could all enjoy looking where we are going!
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: bobso on Aug 07, 2011, 08:14 AM
Here is a link to the QE being built--


Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: sheels on Aug 07, 2011, 12:22 PM
I had an invitation to visit Queen Elizabeth same day as Twynkle. I had a flying tour of the grills etc....A few of the rooms were not ready to view as it was early and the cleaners were still busy, I felt sorry for the host, he tried his best. We had lunch in the Britannia, beautiful ship but cannot compare it to my QE2 at all.

I was sad when it was time to leave, other passengers were boarding as I was going down the gangway, this set the tears flowing I did not want my visit to end.

Downside of the ship, cant get a proper view of the sea at the front, and looking at her from the car park, she has no personality with most of the ship looking like a block of flats.
Still, it was a fantastic experience, just wish my Sister in Law Linda who lives in Canada could have been with me to share it
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: skilly56 on Aug 07, 2011, 06:34 PM
OK Rosie,

I did find one more place that you can legally look fr'rd from - the Commodore Club/Admiral's Lounge on Deck 10. But we seem to be so busy on here that we hardly get a chance to get to these places.

Young fella is doing the 12-4 and 'camping' on the deck in his cabin while we occupy his really comfy bed. With a full house on the passenger side, we are only permitted to dine in the Lido, so we won't be seeing any other restaurants on board. After doing escort duties during the day we are both a bit stuffed anyway, so it seems to be shower and bed on port days.

There are crew cabins across the front of 7 Deck where we are, and the occupants can use the full-width deck across the front of the ship. Very nice when no breeze is blowing.

Cheers

Skilly
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Rod on Aug 07, 2011, 08:12 PM
I am sorry...have not read all the posts, just skipped through. I have no interest, other than general, with any other Queen apart from the 2 that are in my life. Well 3 if you count the wife! HM Queen Elizabeth the second, and RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 that was my life for 20 years. You can copy bars, furnishings...whatever! But, to me there will only be ONE sailing Queen.
All these ships with Queen names......are cruise ships. ONE is a QUEEN!
Rant over.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Aug 08, 2011, 11:26 AM
I am sorry...have not read all the posts, just skipped through. I have no interest, other than general, with any other Queen apart from the 2 that are in my life. Well 3 if you count the wife! HM Queen Elizabeth the second, and RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 that was my life for 20 years. You can copy bars, furnishings...whatever! But, to me there will only be ONE sailing Queen.
All these ships with Queen names......are cruise ships. ONE is a QUEEN!
Rant over.

Hi Rod, you are definitely not the only one in this Forum with this view!   8)

Several other threads show the heated debates we have had on this subject...
Title: Re: Our QE review.
Post by: bobso on Sep 22, 2011, 08:33 AM
Here is a link to the new Queen Elizabeth--


http://allaboutcunard.blogspot.com/2011/09/cunard-queen-elizabeth.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+allaboutcunard+%28All+About+Cunard+Blog%29
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Oct 12, 2011, 10:51 PM
The first anniversary of her launch,
and this is how she was looking a month ago!

At anchor the Firth of Forth
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6177/6238935910_d54b3b9c2a_m.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/6238935910/)

and sailing through the Minches
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6175/6238935916_de83ba1d5f_m.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/6238935916/)



Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Andy F on Oct 14, 2011, 10:59 PM
and a few more from the maiden round Britain...

Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Rod on Oct 15, 2011, 12:24 AM
If thos pics/simulations are the way it going......I need to restructure my pension plan! When will the people that run Cunard realize that there is a market, granted a niche market, for people that want the finest service, the finest staff, the finest liner. Not some damn copycat clone of what everybody else has. If they looked into what QE2 had...and delivered...they might realize.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 17, 2012, 04:13 PM
queen Elizabeth is due to sail through the Verazzano Narrows soon
on her way to Manhattan on the first segment of her World Criuise 2012
You'll find this Live webcam view is exceptionally good,
it's also possible to watch cars passing over the bridge!:
http://NYHarborWebcam.com/
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: QE2 Canuck on Jan 17, 2012, 05:04 PM
Hi there.... just watched Queen Elizabeth enter the New York Harbour..... I'm afraid she had a rainy, misty, foggy entrance... the camera caught her as she came under the bridge but soon lost her in the upper bay.  She will be leaving New York tomorrow evening and heading to Fort Lauderdale where she will be on the port fever camera in Port Everglades on Friday/saturday...If anybody is interested...... the Port Fever camera links up with the Port canaveral harbour cam and the New York harbour cam so you access them all from this one site.    www.portfever.com     keeps me busy switching about to catch them all departing in the afternoon..... it's fun ship watching!!!   You can tell, I'm retired!!

QE2 Canuck    Linda C
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 17, 2012, 05:14 PM
Hi there.... just watched Queen Elizabeth enter the New York Harbour..... I'm afraid she had a rainy, misty, foggy entrance... the camera caught her as she came under the bridge but soon lost her in the upper bay.  She will be leaving New York tomorrow evening and heading to Fort Lauderdale where she will be on the port fever camera in Port Everglades on Friday/saturday...If anybody is interested...... the Port Fever camera links up with the Port canaveral harbour cam and the New York harbour cam so you access them all from this one site.    www.portfever.com     keeps me busy switching about to catch them all departing in the afternoon..... it's fun ship watching!!!   You can tell, I'm retired!!

QE2 Canuck    Linda C

Thank you for this - It's a much better cam!
 - it's not difficult to imagine what those early passengers on ships from the uk must have thought and experienced as they arrived in the same sort of misty wet and cold conditions on their way to Ellis Island...
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Andy F on Jan 17, 2012, 11:42 PM
- it's not difficult to imagine what those early passengers on ships from the uk must have thought and experienced as they arrived in the same sort of misty wet and cold conditions on their way to Ellis Island...
They didn't arrive in quite as much style though...
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: bobso on Mar 05, 2012, 06:56 PM
A Port Douglas tale aboard The Queen Elizabeth--

http://www.tourismportdouglas.com.au/A-Port-Douglas-tale-aboard-Queen-Elizabe.7233.0.html
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: bobso on May 11, 2012, 03:45 PM

New video here of the Queen Elizabeth---

Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: junglejames on Jul 06, 2012, 02:58 AM
Quick question, which i havent found the answer to. The QE(3) has the QE2s bell up on deck 10. Does she also have the original QEs bell nearby, or anywhere else onboard?
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Andy F on Jul 08, 2012, 03:45 PM
That's one for Flagship to answer, though I would have thought the original bell remained with the ship but I may be wrong
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Jul 08, 2012, 08:14 PM
The two bells: QE2's main bell while the smaller one is the Engine Room bell from the Queen Elizabeth not her main bell.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: junglejames on Jul 08, 2012, 10:23 PM
Cheers flagship
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Aug 03, 2012, 08:11 PM
I thought you would like to see some photos of the Queen Elizabeth, when she visited Greenock on her around Britain cruise - August 2012.

The photos were taken from PS Waverley when she escorted QE down the River Clyde. 

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10596/normal_Waverley_approaching_QE_R.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10596/normal_Waverley_QE_R2.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10596/normal_Waverley_QE_3R.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10596/normal_Waverley_QE_4R.jpg)

(https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/gallery/albums/userpics/10596/normal_Waverley_QE_5R.jpg)

Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Rod on Aug 04, 2012, 03:59 PM
UGLY!!!
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Aug 04, 2012, 04:16 PM
She does not have the beautiful lines of QE2 but the QE is built to accommodate the current cruise market, which places more importance on having balconies and the extended deck space at the back of the ship for sun beds.

We were fortunate to see around QE last year, we liked the interior and she is a ship we would cruise onboard. 

When the Waverley was escorting the QE down the Clyde on Thursday we noticed that there did not appear to be many passengers on upper deck on the QE.  This was so different to QE2 for sail aways when the decks would have been full of passengers.  We have had this discussion before as to passengers staying in their cabin or on balconies rather than being part of the event on deck. 
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Rod on Aug 04, 2012, 04:23 PM
Lynda, I think a lot of that is due to the way the sailaway is marketed on board and also what sights can be seen. I have also heard from a friend that still sails as a member of Cruise Staff, not called that any more, that for some reason they try and discourage big get togethers on deck apart from major ports. She is trying to find out why!
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Aug 04, 2012, 04:48 PM
I don't like the ship, but I do like Lynda's fabulous photos of her, well done!

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Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: cunardqueen on Aug 05, 2012, 08:00 PM
Quote
   I think a lot of that is due to the way the sailaway is marketed on board and also what sights can be seen. 

Heck are they even trying to mess about with the sail away parties.... who hasnt on QE2 been sucked into the atmosphere of it all and bought one of those glasses of bubbly to raise a glass with fellow travellers to a Bon Voyage..but then l do gather trying to get any sort of drinks service on the open decks is like finding hens teeth ....
It used to be so nice to assemble on the open decks, sailaway drink in hand and toast the departing port of call ( except SQ, l just quietly said good riddance  :-X)
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: matdark on Aug 08, 2012, 05:34 PM
Lynda, I think a lot of that is due to the way the sailaway is marketed on board and also what sights can be seen. I have also heard from a friend that still sails as a member of Cruise Staff, not called that any more, that for some reason they try and discourage big get togethers on deck apart from major ports. She is trying to find out why!
I was on board and I can tell you Commodore Rynd made several announcements about the Waverley being there, told a lot about her history and also said that a senior member of the staff (can't remember his name) was a volunteer on the Waverley during his leaves
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Aug 08, 2012, 06:20 PM
I was on board and I can tell you Commodore Rynd made several announcements about the Waverley being there, told a lot about her history and also said that a senior member of the staff (can't remember his name) was a volunteer on the Waverley during his leaves

The Captain of the PS Waverley also gave a lot of information about the Cunard ships and Queen Elizabeth.  There was lots of cheering from Waverley passengers and we appreciated the horn blowing from the QE Captain. 

Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Andy F on Oct 18, 2012, 01:51 AM
... I have also heard from a friend that still sails as a member of Cruise Staff, not called that any more, that for some reason they try and discourage big get togethers on deck apart from major ports. She is trying to find out why!
... I have also heard from a friend that still sails as a member of Cruise Staff, not called that any more, that for some reason they try and discourage big get togethers on deck apart from major ports. She is trying to find out why!
Certainly not the case from my experience and weather permitting, the aft decks are invariably busy with the ubiquitous caribbean band playing away, not to mention every Sailaway presents an opportunity to flog the old Lanson and quite successful it appears as well!  That said, I usually retreat back down to my SR just before sailing time as prefer to observe the departure from the relative peace of my balcony.

The lack of balconies on QE2 meant you 'had' to be out on deck at Sailaway and great fun it was too but would that have still been the case if she too had a similar number of balconies?  I suspect not in all honesty.       
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Bob C. on Oct 21, 2012, 12:41 AM
Totally unrelated to the current thread but after looking at QE(3)'s photos in this post for the first time in a long time, she exhibits external appearance qualities of NCL's Norwegian Epic.  A very far cry from the elegant lines of QE2.
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Aug 07, 2013, 05:04 PM
QE causing excitement in Dun Laoghaire today :

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/d%C3%BAn-laoghaire-welcomes-another-cruise-ship-1.1487317

I hope the port city made some money from the visitors!
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jan 09, 2014, 04:44 PM
Seatrade Insider covers a story about the Queen Elizabeth in Hamburg for the opening of the 2014 cruise season prior to her world cruise:
http://www.seatrade-insider.com/news/news-headlines/queen-elizabeth-opens-hamburgs-2014-nearly-200-cruise-calls-expected.html
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Sep 28, 2017, 03:50 PM
P.C. Kohler has written a review of QE on Cruisecritic. Seems he was rather happy with the ship.

https://www.cruisecritic.com/memberreviews/memberreview.cfm?EntryID=591553
Title: Re: Elizabeth - General Discussion
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Sep 17, 2019, 11:59 AM
Queen Elizabeth is currently alongside Greenock Ocean Terminal on her second and final visit to the port today.
Adding Queen Victoria's three visits brings us to a total of five visits by the Vista Sisters this year - this must be a record for Greenock calls by Cunard vessels in the same year - at least in recent times anyway!!

A few photos of her arriving this morning - nice sunrise which shows our beautiful Clyde scenery at its best!

(1) Passing Gourock this morning (Bob Dougans)
(2) Another wider shot of her passing Gourock (Bob Dougans)
(3) Off Greenock Esplanade (Heather Reid)
(4) Turning to come onto the berth (Heather Reid)
(5) Preparing to come astern onto the berth (Heather Reid)
(6) Panoramic shot of her approaching Greenock Ocean Terminal as Greenock awakens. (Stephen Lyle via Inverclyde Now Facebook Page)