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Non-QE2 Area => QE2's Predecessors : Queen Elizabeth & Queen Mary => RMS Queen Mary (1936) => Topic started by: NairB on Mar 02, 2009, 06:16 AM

Title: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: NairB on Mar 02, 2009, 06:16 AM
Hi Everybody,

Look at this wonderful picture of the Queen Mary being fitted out at John Browns....CLYDEBANK....Glasgow.

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The creation of these "things" are more impressive to me than their working life for some reason....I LOVE THE THOUGHT OF BUILDING THESE MASTERPIECES again!!

Love that picture.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Mar 02, 2009, 06:19 AM
Aha, the REAL Queen Mary. Long may she endure.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Dr. Edmund Carus on Mar 02, 2009, 08:07 AM
Hello all,

How did they get her out when completed? There isn't a lot of room! Are there any equivalent pictures of the QE please?

Wonderful picture!

Cheers!
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: hollihedge on Mar 02, 2009, 11:56 AM
Stunning photo!
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Stowaway2k on Mar 02, 2009, 04:58 PM
Hello all,

How did they get her out when completed? There isn't a lot of room!

Cheers!

With the help of 7 tugs, very carefully...   ;D   The Queen Mary was kept as light as possible for the dangerous voyage down the river.  She had the minumum possible amount of fuel, and only the two forward lifeboats.   Plus, the river channel had been enlarged, 1/2 million tons of sand and sludge were dredged and dumped at sea, and 5 1/2 acres of river bank around the Cart River, opposite the shipyard, were cut away.

On the 24th of March, 1936, an estimated ONE MILLION people lined the banks of the River Clyde to view the Queen Mary departing her place of birth, for her life of fame and glory.   The day declared a holiday, shops and schools closing for the historic occasion.

Even with the help of 7 tugs, one of them brought up specially from Southampton, the Queen Mary grounded.  Twice.  As seen in this photo, a gust of wind sent the Queen Mary's bow onto the bank, and the current of the river put her stern on the opposite bank.   She was held fast for about half an hour on the two opposite river banks.
With the dropping tide and the pull of the current, the Queen Mary had only minutes more to be brought free before the stresses she was being subjected to would have broken her keel.  Queen Mary would had to have been scrapped on the spot, closing the Clyde to river traffic for months.

As we know, RMS Queen Mary was freed on time, and went on her way to become the greatest merchant ship in history.



Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: singlemalt on Mar 02, 2009, 05:13 PM
Stunning pictures NairB; and thank-you to Kyle for sharing the story.

Please keep them coming!
Clydebank has a lot to be proud of.  ;D
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Stowaway2k on Mar 02, 2009, 05:21 PM
Stunning pictures NairB; thank you Kyle  for sharing the story.

Please keep them coming!
Clydebank has a lot to be proud of.  ;D

For more stunning photos, please visit the galleries at www.queenmaryassociation.com
An organization by and for Queen Mary former crew. 
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: NairB on Mar 04, 2009, 01:46 PM
WOW.... :o

Those picts are stunning folks. I had no idea the QM got dangerously stuck at one point gosh looking at the tugs panic to save her... :o

Glad she made it tho. ;D

-NairB :)
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Bob C. on Mar 09, 2009, 05:26 AM
Great photos and the presence of the notch in the fitting out berth is now confirmed for QM!.  Given the length of QM and the even longer length of QE, I think we can assume that the notch was created for them.  Does any one know if John Brown built any other ships as long as the above two?
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Waverley on Apr 15, 2009, 08:48 PM
I thought that I should add the photo of the QE2 doing a similar procedure with the tugs. Picture quality is poor. Your aerial photos of the QM at John Browns are great.   

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Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Cunarder Man on Feb 07, 2010, 06:04 PM
A few snaps of the Queen Mary's launch taken by my father-in-law. Must have been quite a day, despite the rain. Look at 'Launch Day' picture - there's a camera crew up the crane.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Jem on Feb 07, 2010, 07:41 PM
A few snaps of the Queen Mary's launch taken by my father-in-law. Must have been quite a day, despite the rain. Look at 'Launch Day' picture - there's a camera crew up the crane.
I wonder if that film crew took some of these shots?

Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Cunarder Man on Feb 07, 2010, 08:49 PM
Many thanks for linking to a clip from Shipyard Sally. There are scenes in this clip which are obviously shot by the camera in my picture. Brilliant!
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Feb 07, 2010, 08:51 PM
I spotted something interesting; although the hull portholes have been cut, the bridge front is still a blank sheet of metal...
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: jdl on Feb 13, 2010, 09:23 AM
Brilliant pictures and website link, thanks for posting!

If only we were contemplating the challenges of launching another Trans Atlantic liner on the Clyde  in our lifetime.

jdl
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Oct 31, 2010, 09:26 AM
Amazing photos.  The quality of the black and white photos is very good, particularly when you think how long ago it was since they were taken.  It must have been quite a experience to see her being moved down the River Clyde accompanied by the tugs. It is no wonder so many people lined the banks of the Clyde to watch this spectacle. Not only was she a magnificent ship but for many Clydeside workers the completion of this ship marked the end of "the depression" years when they were out of work and had experienced great poverty. 
Title: Re: Pictures Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Mar 15, 2011, 10:16 AM
An old photo I have in my collection of the Queen Mary in the fitting out bay in Clydebank.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: No 736 on Mar 15, 2011, 09:40 PM
A nice view Lynda and her lines never fail to impress.
Steve S.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Mar 15, 2011, 10:18 PM
I have to admit it is a favourite photo of the Queen Mary, mainly because of the angle the photo was taken from which gives an indication of the size of the ship. 

I think the photo was taken when she was ready to leave John Brown's but I am not sure as there is not a date on the back of the photo.   
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Bob C. on Mar 16, 2011, 09:09 PM
Can anyone explain why the QM and QE's hulls were lauched with a whitish paint (at least looks that way in the B&W photos) and later painted with the familiar Cunard queen's livery in the fitting out basin?  And, as a follow-on, why QE2 was launced in the black, red and white paint scheme?

Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Mar 16, 2011, 10:10 PM
Bob

Queen Elizabeth had a black hull for her launch whereas, as you say, Queen Mary was grey / white. I am intrigued why this should be so too. A few years earlier Olympic was launched with a white hull and it was said that was to aid photography (!?) while her sister Titanic was launched a year later and she had a black hull!

Michael
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Mar 16, 2011, 10:55 PM
I think it is to aid photography because official works photographs of brand new railway locomotives were often done in grey paint as well, and that is the reason quoted for those.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Cruisemarsh on Mar 16, 2011, 11:56 PM
Stunning photos of the Queen Mary. I like the top one from the air. The first two funnels are in place and you can see the placing for where the third one was to go.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Bob C. on Mar 17, 2011, 04:12 PM
Queen Elizabeth had a black hull for her launch whereas, as you say, Queen Mary was grey / white. I am intrigued why this should be so too.

I forgot about QE being painted with a black hull for launch.  I think I was recalling her color when she made the dash for the US where she had a light color paint quicly appied.

http://webspace.webring.com/people/xu/um_752/Mauretania-Normandie-Queen_Mary-Queen_Elizabeth.jpg   

You can see the black hull paint showing through the stripped off lighter paint on the bow near the waterline.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Cruisemarsh on Mar 17, 2011, 04:26 PM
Bob

Queen Elizabeth had a black hull for her launch whereas, as you say, Queen Mary was grey / white. I am intrigued why this should be so too. A few years earlier Olympic was launched with a white hull and it was said that was to aid photography (!?) while her sister Titanic was launched a year later and she had a black hull!

Michael


The Olympic was the first in her class of ships and The Queen Mary was the first built out of the two Cunarders. Perhaps with the first build, the company are so keen to show her off on her launch that they paint the ship white to attract more publicity. Also, the white hull helps photography.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 27, 2011, 10:23 PM
Maritime Matters posted this image of the construction of Hull No. 534 today - the anniversary of her keel plates being laid on 27th December 1930.
http://www.sterling.rmplc.co.uk/history/const.html
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: bobso on Dec 28, 2011, 06:51 AM
Very interesting posts/photo's that have been posted. I have a DVD in my collection in both Black and White and COLOUR that shows the Queen Mary at John Browns and then going down the Clyde for the first time. It also shows her getting stuck and the Black smoke comming from her funells as it and the tugs tried freeing her from the mud. Must get it out and watch it again.
Title: Re: A Picture Of Queen Mary Being Built
Post by: Cruisemarsh on Jan 06, 2012, 11:13 PM
Some stunning photos of a stunning ship. I often was told by my late grandad on how he went to see the launch of the Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth when he was just a kid. He also went to see the launch of the QE2. That was one of the perks of living in the Glasgow area and he used to travel every year on the steamers with his dad, mum and brothers.