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Title: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 04, 2010, 10:17 AM
I've just checked QV's bridgecam and she appears not to be in any of the normal berths at Southampton today; she's apparently tied up by the starboard side facing south west.  Unusual?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 04, 2010, 11:12 AM
You can see her exact position here :

http://www.ais-live.co.uk/aismap/AIS%20Maps/solent.html

Not a position I ever saw QE2 in, in all the months when I used to watch her on this site, in and out of Southampton...

Ali will be able to tell us where and why this was  ;D  !
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 04, 2010, 11:21 AM
That's interesting - she's right opposite Titanic's berth; I've never seen any passenger vessel tie up there, only auto liners.

I wonder if it's because the boat train is at Eastern Docks?  QV was supposed to use berth 106 in Western Docks, even so I'd have thought they'd berth her at the Queen Elizabeth II terminal as that'll be where the boat train is.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 04, 2010, 11:35 AM
Queen Victoria is moored in Berth 106 - Departing for New York 18.00hrs !
http://www.southamptonvts.co.uk/cruise_ship.asp
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 04, 2010, 11:56 AM
She's in berth 46 actually, according to the AIS from Isabelle's post, which matches the webcam image.

The list does show her as berth 106, but checking the "ships alongside" it gives a different story.

http://www.southamptonvts.co.uk/live/ship_alongside.asp


I think it's a last minute switch to get her nearer the boat train?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 04, 2010, 02:01 PM
Today - qV and QM2 both start their WCs 2010 and
About another QE being floated out
http://wearecunard.com/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 04, 2010, 02:06 PM
There's a lovely typo in that article! ;D

"The final touches are also being added to the bow as the familiar livery of the white and federal great paint are added."


I notice also from the pictures that the mast design seems very familiar indeed... :)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 04, 2010, 02:50 PM

Here is what waits for the Queen Victoria-The North Atlantic wave heights for the next few days.

http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display.cgi?a=natla_height

Louis
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Jem on Jan 04, 2010, 03:48 PM
I've just checked QV's bridgecam and she appears not to be in any of the normal berths at Southampton today; she's apparently tied up by the starboard side facing south west.  Unusual?
It's not that unusual for her to be berther here, as you can see she was there on the 5th December.

Cheers
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 04, 2010, 04:26 PM
Hey Louis
Interesting website!
Quote
http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display.cgi?a=natla_height
Thank you!


 

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 04, 2010, 05:20 PM
Here is what waits for the Queen Victoria-The North Atlantic wave heights for the next few days.

http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display.cgi?a=natla_height

Louis

We have a friend(whom I'm jealous of) who will be on QM2 sailing eastbound right into that predicted mess, or at least on the edges of it I suppose, who hopefully will get some great pics of the seas and maybe even QV if they cross paths.  I suspect Cunard would like to take advantage of this event if they can.

One thing that sticks in my mind from Commodore Warwick's lexture I attended on QE2 is that he worried that when the Atlantic starts to kick up again, there will be alot of officers and crew who have never experienced rough weather like there used to be on the Atlantic.  Perhaps the period of relatively smooth sailing is over?  It does seem like QM2 has been sailing into stronger storms as of late.
Ken
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 04, 2010, 05:38 PM
This may be of interest:

http://oiswww.eumetsat.org/IPPS/html/MSG/IMAGERY/IR039/BW/WESTERNEUROPE/index.htm

It's live ( updated every hour ) and there's links to other areas, including the rest of the Atlantic, on the left.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: singlemalt on Jan 05, 2010, 12:01 AM
You can see her exact position here :

http://www.ais-live.co.uk/aismap/AIS%20Maps/solent.html

Not a position I ever saw QE2 in, in all the months when I used to watch her on this site, in and out of Southampton...

Ali will be able to tell us where and why this was  ;D  !

I'm not exactly sure of the details - sorry!
Yes - they were disembarking people for the Orient Express.

We were late getting into the berth even though we seemed to be making good time throughout the night.

I was up on deck from around 6 (Captain has said due in at 6.30) but there seemed to be lots of dawdling and hanging around.

I stayed out until about 7.15 when I eventually had to give up - was fffffrrrrreeeezing and sick of losing my footing on icy decks.... there was an accident waiting to happen I'm sure judging my my usual level of clumsiness!  :-[

It was around 7.30 when we eventually docked I think and there were delays waiting for people doing the self -disembarcation (not sure if that's a real word or not?!) and waiting for baggage to be unloaded.
Ultimately we were over an hour late getting off than had been originally detailed.

There was some mentions from other passengers that there had been an earlier 'bump' involving some other vessels and they were having difficulties moving one of them.
(But this was all from other passengers - no official announcement was given to explain the reasons for the delay - so cannot vouch for it's accuracy I'm afraid.)

Regarding earlier discussions about QV in bad weather conditions - I hav some stuff to add regarding wind speed, wave height and some of the bad weather on the Christmas trip that led to various itinerary changes - will try and post in next few days (back to work tomorrow... Boo!) when I look over some of the notes I took.

It was certainly a bumpy ride!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 05, 2010, 10:31 AM
Images of queen Victoria in Funchal, Madeira on New Year's Eve 2009
http://lmcshipsandthesea.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 05, 2010, 12:13 PM
Hi, Louis
Please - do you have the website address(es?) of your last post on this thread? The latest looks a good one too!
Then we could follow the Mary coming in the opposite direction
Hopefully their paths will cross in daylight hours!
Many thanks,

Rosie
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 05, 2010, 12:25 PM

Off topic here is the position of the QM2 on the first pic.On the second on you can where both ships are
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 05, 2010, 01:09 PM
Here's the saiwx link for all the geeky peeps amongst us!
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=GBQV
(and for QM2 - use call sign GBQM!)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 06, 2010, 09:29 AM

Heres the both positions of QM2 and QV

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 06, 2010, 06:05 PM
Re: Captain McNaught resigns and q Victoria

What am I going to do??, only just booked a voyage, sorry (cruise) on wet nose vikki,  I know what you're all thinking,     but really , I  needed a rail to lean on, & Twynkle says it's not that bad if you just look out to sea at all times, so went for it. However, was going to take me favourite QE2 book with me in the hope I could get him to sign it, in return I've bought a couple of I heart QE2 badges which I was going to quietly put in his pocket, Seabourne are well out of range , so guess I'll just have to wear them with pride one on each lapel, how about I heart Mc Naught badges, a true gent!! I wish him all the best, another link to dear old QE2 gone though.....

Oh dear - Pete
What a shame - Hope that you won't be suing me - I ain't got a bean! Unfortunately the last one was spent on qV...:(
However - I defy you not to enjoy good views of the sea - although there's No Bit Beneath the Bridge - but take a look astern - You might even see her wake when the engines being tested!
Good Luck - lol
Rosie
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/3910911736/in/set-72157622216829143/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/3910911732/in/set-72157622216829143/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: pete cain on Jan 06, 2010, 07:53 PM
Thank's Rosie, couldn't afford to take the case to court (not that I would anyway), still feel I'm abandoning an old friend though,   & after I vowed never to sail carnivor again, after what they did ??? bit hard really, & after looking at Cruise Critic....  regarding vikki , well , who knows, I don't; sin in haste, repent at leisure :-\                                               
P S great shots Rosie, I'LL do my best to compare her with Sea Princess,that's my yardstick on this occasion, any other comparrison is just null & void....
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 07, 2010, 12:03 PM
On twitter - Gary Williams says, 'I am on the Queen Victoria crossing the Altantic. It's amazing how well this liner handles the choppy waters. So smooth a sailing'
This was the last screen grab before the service became (temporarily?!) unavailable!

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 08, 2010, 06:01 AM

The 2 Queens have passsed each other mid Atlantic.

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 09, 2010, 01:26 PM
The Travels of Queen Victoria cont'd
A little difficulty aboard Queen Victoria....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241820/Queen-Victoria-cruise-ship-faces-U-S-ban-vomiting-bug-outbreak.html

Question - How can they be so sure it's a bug?
'Ted', on Liners list yesterday  reported qV's close contact with a hurricane...Hmm.
He's aboard qV lecturing - lucky passengers :)
(QM2 btw, is now experiencing choppy seas with a bit of swell)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: MiamiCunarder on Jan 09, 2010, 02:59 PM

  You know, that is the first thing that came to mind after I read the article. The N Atlantic being particularly active this time of year, I wonder if the ship's doctor has been able to determine with certainty that it is indeed a bug, and not the usual N Atlantic mal de mer?
 I can still remember the puke bags that used to be put in place around QE 2 stairwells and lifts. I'm proud to say I never used one but I do admit I almost did once or twice...lol
Maybe Ted can find out for us?
 Ron
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 09, 2010, 09:15 PM
I have been thinking of asking a question on the Cunard Facebook page, but fear it will be pulled.  I want to ask what if any modifications have been made to the ship to address the buckling floor conditions that have been experienced, particularily on the transatlantic where the couple sued and won for a ruined cruise.  Do you think I have any chance of getting an answer?  ???

The followup question would be....what has been done on the new Queen Elizabeth to address these issues?  I will be on the maiden tandem crossing in January 2011 and am concerned. :o

Ken
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 21, 2010, 12:36 PM
Queen Victoria - (she with the well- stepped stern!) is transitting the Panama Canal - Is this for the first time?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Jan 21, 2010, 12:51 PM
Rosie

It will be QV's third transit of the Canal; her maiden being in Januray 2008.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 21, 2010, 01:12 PM
Thank you!

She's just decided to have her bridge-cam 'position' changed - she's  'At sea, bound for Acapulco'
Lucky passengers!





Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 21, 2010, 01:28 PM

Heres a clip from the transit


Louis
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Jan 21, 2010, 04:28 PM
Heres the both positions of QM2 and QV



What site are you using to view these ship positions, Louis?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 21, 2010, 04:59 PM
Quote
What site are you using to view these ship positions, Louis?

Do you have Google Earth ?
If so click on the following link:

http://www.seascanner.com/kml/kfben.kml.

That should work.Try it.

Louis
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 21, 2010, 05:01 PM

Heres another link that works on Google Earth.

http://www.vesseltracker.com/en/Googleearth.html

Louis

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Jan 21, 2010, 05:19 PM
Thanks, Louis!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Tom on Jan 22, 2010, 08:18 AM
I've been working on an independent "QV fansite" in my spare time.  Considering that there wasn't one already out there on the internet, I thought it was a worthwhile project.  It's nothing like the one here on QE2, but I think that it gives a good sense of what she's like and some information regarding her construction and service life.  The link is posted below.  She really is a lovely ship and I do hope that in time she'll become more popular amongst traditionalists.

http://www.ms-queen-victoria.com
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 22, 2010, 10:40 AM
That's interesting, Tom!
Good that qV has a site!

Suffice it to say, that being a 'sea-addict' as well as a staunch traditionalist of long-standing (that's another story!)
and having spent 2 weeks on board qV last August, it soon became clear that qV is better experienced from being onboard, than she is from the quayside!
Seeing her from a fair distance seemed just about OK too!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4295254028/in/set-72157623165171368/

QE2 was well represented aboard - we had a meeting, and although the discussions were mainly about QE2 - there were several there who were not as impressed with Queen Victoria, as others!

My hope is that as ships built for cruises become even uglier, then qV's reputation and 'appearance' may become more acceptable!! 

On your site -
http://www.ms-queen-victoria.com
it appears that Queen Victoria is described as a 'liner'.
Ocean-going? She definitely is.
However - a liner...??
If you try typing liner into the search/index above, here on the Forum - you'll find lots about the term 'liner/s'!
 
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 22, 2010, 12:31 PM
Ocean-going? She definitely is.
I'd argue that this is open to debate.  I believe that a ship such as QM2 and QE2 are for oceans (e.g. the Atlantic Ocean) whereas a cruise ship such as QV, is intended mainly for seas.  She'll only venture across the ocean rarely for re-positioning, weather permitting.  I'm sure I've heard this stated as fact, with regard to the different category and use intended for each kind of ship.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 22, 2010, 12:45 PM
I've been working on an independent "QV fansite" in my spare time.  Considering that there wasn't one already out there on the internet, I thought it was a worthwhile project.  It's nothing like the one here on QE2, but I think that it gives a good sense of what she's like and some information regarding her construction and service life.  The link is posted below.  She really is a lovely ship and I do hope that in time she'll become more popular amongst traditionalists.
Good luck with your site, I'm sure it will do very well - it looks great.

Personally, I don't consider myself a 'traditionalist', I've just never been interested in cruising or cruise ships!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 22, 2010, 01:01 PM
I'd argue that this is open to debate.  I believe that a ship such as QM2 and QE2 are for oceans (e.g. the Atlantic Ocean) whereas a cruise ship such as QV, is intended mainly for seas.  She'll only venture across the ocean rarely for re-positioning, weather permitting.  I'm sure I've heard this stated as fact, with regard to the different category and use intended for each kind of ship.

Rob - I agree with you,
and understood from people sailing her that qV is a vessel best suited to in-shore waters and 'the seas',
in preference to heavy and unpredictable sea conditions on say, the Atlantic.
It was fact the that qV can and has sailed across oceans that i was referring to, as a definite fact, in the literal sense!

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Tom on Jan 22, 2010, 11:41 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.  I hope to add to the site as time goes on.  Soon she'll be crossing the Pacific and I'm hoping to get some good photos of QV when she's in Honolulu.  I shall take out "liner" at some point in the future as I do agree she's really a cruise ship.

The Oxford English Dictionary defines a "liner" as "a vessel (now usually a steam-ship) belonging to a ‘line’ of packets providing a regular succession of public conveyances plying between certain places; e.g. Cunard liners, White Star liners. orig. U.S."

It has been argued that QV can be considered a liner due to the fact that she makes regularly scheduled crossings of the Atlantic (regularly as in she does at least a few every around the same time every year).  However, being that she does not make successive (back-to-back) crossing, as defined above, QV simply cannot be considered one.  I remember occasionally members of the ship's crew would point to the ship's "liner inspired interior design" as being proof.  Obviously that doesn't make the least bit of difference, but it's interesting to note that any vessel that sails between two places regularly can be considered a liner, regardless of exterior design (some have noted QV's Vista Class origins here before).  Naturally, liners need different designs to withstand the elements of the open ocean far better than cruise ships, but being "liner like" in design does not classify a ship as one.

Does anyone here know were I could find some sort of physical proof to substantiate the claim that QV does indeed have a crack in her structure?  Ken pointed out a link to a Lloyd's Register report a while ago, but I can't seem to find exactly where within it states that a crack exists.  If it's true, it might be interesting to see if the crack (or any subsequent repairs to it) can be viewed either within the passenger areas or on the vessel's exterior.

Does anyone here know whether there is any truth to the rumor that Captain Wright is retiring in the near future?  He's been with the company for 30 years and while not completely beyond belief, I still can't find anything "official" about it beyond this site.  To me it makes little sense considering Captain Wright generally goes on leave in March and returns to the ship for the summer months.  It seems that retiring at the start of Fall 2010 would be much more plausible than retiring in May 2010 based on his schedule.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 23, 2010, 01:25 PM
Vivat Victoria!
http://www.maritimematters.com/shipnews2007d.html

....'Vice President / Chief Naval Architect, Carnival Corporate Shipbuilding (and chief designer of QM2), Mr Stephen Payne, OBE, quoted at the delivery of QUEEN VICTORIA, told Maritimematters, "Although I never had the privilege of seeing or even sailing on Cunard's legendary green goddess CARONIA (1949), I can only imagine that the magnificence of the new QUEEN VICTORIA makes her a worthy successor, well placed to perpetuate the grand style of ocean voyaging".

An interior photograph by Mr. Payne can be found on the SHIPPING NEWS photos page.'....
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 23, 2010, 01:31 PM
Thanks for the site and the pictures.  Really gives a sense of her interiors.  Looks like you got up really early to do your photos as no one is around!

She is just on a completely different scale of the QE2.  So many double (or larger) height spaces and so many public spaces.  I guess thats the advantage of all that superstructure.

I see a few nods to the Queen Mary - the lights that were in the QM's 1st class dining saloon and those in the observation lounge are recreated aboard the QV.

My reservation is that this mock Art Deco look isn't always convincing and a bit like some Las Vegas hotel.  I almost wish they'd do something new/modern.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 23, 2010, 01:54 PM
Yes, Richard!
If Cunard had chosen to design her interiors with a modernist, 'less-is-more' approach,
or even minimalist - as in 'contemporary', this could have been revolutionary - (well, almost!)
I wonder which came first - the name 'Queen Victoria' - or the choice of style!


Just for info!
A report from Peter Knego
http://maritimematters.blogspot.com/2008/01/queen-victorias-maiden-visit-to-los.html
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 23, 2010, 02:04 PM
Well it's this positioning of Cunard post Carnival purchase with the emphasis on tradtions, and Britishness.  The ships very much play on their Royal connections and being British, hence the flag of registry and all that. 

This is what puzzles me....Art Deco was very much an international movement, something the French and Americans excelled at.  Britain, it has to be said, less so.  So why choose Art Deco style for these "British" ships.  Seems odd to me.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 23, 2010, 03:59 PM
Here's very good account of his TA,
by Ted Scull, lecturer aboard qV last January (2009)
http://www.worldshipny.com/qvblog.html

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 23, 2010, 09:32 PM
I just want to post a wee reminder that the best place to discuss QV is really CunardCritic, CruiseCritic or one of the many other discussion forums relating to current cruise ships.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 28, 2010, 03:14 PM

Queen Victoria's maiden call to San Francisco


Louis
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 12, 2010, 05:32 PM
For 'Everyone' in New Zealand
Here's qV podding it into Auckland Harbour
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 21, 2010, 09:52 AM
'Shocking' or Pretty?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cunard/4371336104/
These images are credited to James Morgan

Mightn't this have been a tricky time for keen photographers
hoping to catch qV in surroundings
that are usually stunning, without needing to be Pink!
Why not keep pink for the Real monsters!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 21, 2010, 12:58 PM
This is one way of doing it!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UVc3A_m_W9E/S4AyApClQ4I/AAAAAAAAAsA/XvtviSPbl0M/s1600-h/IMG_4877.JPG
from
http://rogermcguinn.blogspot.com/2010/02/roadie-report-50-end-of-2009-and.html
(Sorry - Mods, I can't find the discussion about using sat navs!)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Jem on Feb 21, 2010, 10:27 PM
This is one way of doing it!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UVc3A_m_W9E/S4AyApClQ4I/AAAAAAAAAsA/XvtviSPbl0M/s1600-h/IMG_4877.JPG
from
http://rogermcguinn.blogspot.com/2010/02/roadie-report-50-end-of-2009-and.html
(Sorry - Mods, I can't find the discussion about using sat navs!)
That sat nav photo, is still making me chuckle ;D ;D
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Matt on Feb 27, 2010, 10:25 AM
I will be seeing the Queen Victoria for the first time tomorrow, when she arrives in Fremantle for the first time. Ill then be able to judge the ship for my self on her appearance. I have to say i am looking forward to it, as i havent seen that classic scheme for almost 2 years when the QE2 departed Australia for the last time on the 5th March 2008.

 Ill let you know how it goes!

Matt
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 28, 2010, 12:58 AM
Hello Matt!
These are for you!

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Matt on Feb 28, 2010, 01:24 PM
Hello Matt!
These are for you!



Thankyou for them images Rosie! I was there, for both the arrival and departure, and was quite suprised, i actually quite liked the girl! But obviously not the liners we both love! Ill write more soon, havent been back long and im so tired, such an early start! So ill have more to say shortly!!

Thanks Again!

Matt
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 02, 2010, 02:52 PM
The first image isn't too bad!
http://www.perthnow.com.au/gallery-e6frg1vc-1225835067467?page=1
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 12, 2010, 09:31 AM
Hello all,

Just departed from 18 nights aboard Queen Victoria. Was aboard lecturing about the history of the Ocean Liner. Our first time aboard QV and we enjoyed our time aboard. Pleased to report that the ship has a very nice 'personality' and is a very happy ship - lots of ex. QE2 crew aboard which makes it feel a bit like "home". Our cabin stewardess (Rowena) looked after us aboard QE2 in the past!

I'll post images etc. on my website & Flickr in due course.

All the best,

Chris.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2 Canuck on Mar 12, 2010, 07:09 PM
Welcome home, Chris and Rachelle.... hope you had a wonderful time on "Miss Vicki" !!  I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts about this younger sister to QE2 and QM2.  I watched the bridge cam each day but most of the time it was in darkness because of the difference in time here in Canada. I'ts kind of nice to run into former crew from QE2, makes you feel "at home" with family. 

Linda
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 13, 2010, 12:31 PM
The resulting discussion, on the meaning of "sister ships", has been moved to the Sister Ships thread by the Moderating Team, to be further pursued there :

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,992.msg18725.html#msg18725
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 15, 2010, 05:22 AM
thanks Linda for your comments and will post some pics of the ship up on my website soon!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 16, 2010, 12:03 AM
Hello Chris
Looking forward to seeing your photographs too!
And your book - what news?
Did you find the special place in the library at sea-level?
Because of fog in Shanghai - she's now running 34 hrs late
and this screen-grab is the South China sea - at breakfast time!
Are you missing her.... ;)  ??!
Rosie.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 16, 2010, 03:15 AM
Hi Rosie,

Thanks for the message! The book is due to be printed in May - will be released in July. We got all of the images we needed - exciting times!

It will be tough for her to make up 34 hours! thanks for the screen grab :D

Chris.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 16, 2010, 05:24 AM
Check out QV dressed in Pink in Sydney for Breast Cancer Support:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriscunard/4436826525/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriscunard/4436826525/)

Some other photos from our QV cruise:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriscunard/sets/72157623698268328/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriscunard/sets/72157623698268328/)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: andyh on Apr 01, 2010, 08:16 PM
That picture of the repaired damage to the stern of the ship looks as if it has been damaged again  :o or is it just a bad repair? ::)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 01, 2010, 10:15 PM
General 'wear and tear' perhaps
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4482033871/in/set-72157623625097929/
Taken 8 months ago

and for 'good measure':
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4482033903/in/set-72157623625097929/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4482033879/in/set-72157623625097929/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4482033899/in/set-72157623625097929/

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: RmsAquitania on Apr 02, 2010, 08:32 PM
Isnt it amazing what can be achieved by calling a container ship queen victoria and painting cunard on the side ?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 22, 2010, 09:20 AM
More about the Couple who Sued.
Take a look at the headline -  it's the Echo that's confused!
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8112805.QM2_compensation_award_cut_to___12_000/



Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 23, 2010, 07:06 AM
Despite her critics - you have to admit that QV looks pretty impressive in this shot:

(http://chriscunard.com/images/img_homepage.jpg)

From: http://www.chriscunard.com/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 23, 2010, 10:46 AM
Well yes... however its taken with a wide angle lens, which flatters the ship, to put it mildly...
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2 Canuck on Apr 23, 2010, 05:21 PM
Hi Chris..... yes she is very impressive and that is a beautiful picture of her.   If she were docked in the middle of a whole lot of other "white boxes" (as my late husband described them) she sure would stand out and everyone would know she was a Cunarder.......AWWW, come on now Rob !!

Linda
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 23, 2010, 05:35 PM
I'm just stating a fact, QV does not look like that!  QV is the same length as QE2, and width, but MUCH taller.  Any photo that makes her look long and low, like that one does, is misleading!  She does look great in it, and its a great photo no question, but she doesn't look like that for real, I wish she did!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Apr 23, 2010, 11:21 PM
QV is definitely the best looking of all the vista sisters, in my opinion.  Her added length and the stepped down stern at least try to balance out her profile.  It would be nice if the funnel was more amidships, like the perfectly balanced QE2. The question will be how long until the refit where cabins are added to match QE at the stern.

QV is NOT like QE2.  QE2 was sheer beauty from every angle.  QV has some very unflattering photographic angles, particularily at the stern.  I also am not a fan of the fake sheerline painted in hull color to mimick QE2'as graceful sheer at the bow.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: RmsAquitania on Apr 24, 2010, 12:44 AM
So sorry tosay this but she still looks a right minger to me !
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Stowaway2k on Apr 24, 2010, 01:09 AM
(http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/46249/2987906740055338351S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2987906740055338351bBjjGC)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Apr 24, 2010, 01:16 AM
(http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/46249/2987906740055338351S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2987906740055338351bBjjGC)

Great photo Kyle.  How did you capture that?  Harbor taxi?  Or was that taken onboard a harbor cruise for the Three Queens in NYC? 
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Stowaway2k on Apr 24, 2010, 01:19 AM
Great photo Kyle.  How did you capture that?  Harbor taxi?  Or was that taken onboard a harbor cruise for the Three Queens in NYC?  

Hi Ken,

Harbor Taxi.

cropped:

(http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/44778/2643097470055338351S500x500Q85.jpg) (http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2643097470055338351Kjuzbb)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 24, 2010, 11:53 AM
 Any photo that makes her look long and low, like that one does, is misleading!

Someone once said 'the camera doesn't lie' ;)

Seriously though, Rob is correct, QV is very bulky, as are all the Vista's. But, she does have some pleasing angles... That was one of them.

I don't think liking QE2 and QV are mutually exclusive. QE2 will always be my favourite however QV has her own personality that was very welcoming, despite her outward appearance. Calling QV names doesn't add anything to ones love for QE2 it simply makes the conversation in this thread less enjoyable.

Someone else once said "don't judge a book by it's cover" which, having been aboard I feel is apt in regards to QV.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2 Canuck on Apr 24, 2010, 03:41 PM
Thank you Chris for your words of wisdom.... I heartily agree... Although QE2 will always be my favourite, she sails on in my memories and in my heart. but.....when the opportunity arises I will sail one day on QV and enjoy it.... Until then I now sail on QM2 and after 4 voyages and one coming up this July, I am growing to love her too.. i still feel a connection to QE2 when I am aboard QM2..... there are so many lovely pictures of QE2 hanging around the corridors of the ship.
Let's stop calling QV names, doing so doesn't honor the name of QE2.


Linda
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Apr 24, 2010, 04:47 PM
Both QM2 and QV were in Southampton on Thursday. I went from QM2 to QV and I have to say that for some inexplicable reason QV feels longer and bigger than QM2 when walking alongside the quayside next to both of them. I can't explain why that should be the case. I thought it was perhaps because the black hull on QM2 is higher than on QV and QV seems to have more white superstructure......
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Apr 24, 2010, 08:41 PM
I think QM2 just looks llke a great big whale.....  and QV just like her dumpy wee sister.......

Whilst QE2 IS stunning, beautiful, elegant and faultless she didn't have a bad angle to be photographed from did she?

The  new Queens  just don't have any good angles in pics....there's either the big ugly face, the thick waist or the big bum,,,,,and no amount of airbrushing can make it better!!!  They look as though they have eaten all the pies...!!

QE2 kept fit and slim all of her life....it was effortless for her...no matter how hard the others 'work at it'...they will NEVER  catch her up!

It's all in the BREEDING!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 25, 2010, 04:09 AM
Both QM2 and QV were in Southampton on Thursday. I went from QM2 to QV and I have to say that for some inexplicable reason QV feels longer and bigger than QM2 when walking alongside the quayside next to both of them. I can't explain why that should be the case. I thought it was perhaps because the black hull on QM2 is higher than on QV and QV seems to have more white superstructure......

We also felt QV looked really BIG when alongside. Must say though, watching QM2 sail from Fremantle really did remind us just how massive she is!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Matt on Apr 25, 2010, 08:57 AM
We also felt QV looked really BIG when alongside. Must say though, watching QM2 sail from Fremantle really did remind us just how massive she is!


I agree Chris! QV looked very big when she visited Fremantle on the 28th of Feb, but then 14 days later, i was absolutely astounded by the size of QM2, even in comparison to the QV! She is massive, gigantic, and colossal even!

Here is a little comparison between the two ships, with the passenger terminal building and a few other landmarks to size it with.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/r8dutw.jpg)

(Apologies for the lack of quality to the photos, i had to resize it significantly to fit!)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 25, 2010, 09:02 AM
Both very much taller than QE2 - same angle from 2008:

(http://www.chriscunard.com/webcam/qe2_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 25, 2010, 09:36 AM
What an amazing conversation!
Please keep it going!
Chris and Flagship - from the 'working' perspective,
you may be one of few that have experience of sailing on board all three ships.
I wonder whether the differences are so great, that they can be described as unique 'individuals'
with each one bearing no comparison to the other two - it's just a matter of the Cunard 'family likeness'?
Bit like human beings, I s'pose!!  :)
 
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Apr 25, 2010, 11:15 AM
I think from the inside QM definitely FEELS MUCH MUCH BIGGER than QV.. they have deliberately  tried to make .QV have a smaller  cosier feel inside...and it works to a point...and it took me 10 minutes less to go back to my cabin for something from the pool.!

The companionways not nearly as long as on QM...they go on for ever. she is truly a massive ship.... far too big for me.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 25, 2010, 11:30 AM
Having sailed on all three (QE2, QM2 and QV) - they absolutely have their own on-board atmosphere and personality.

QV feels 'closer' to QE2 than QM2 does, I felt, in that she is smaller, cosier inside. QM2 is so very big and to me, doesn't really feel like QE2 at all.

That said, QE2's ambiance and personality is unmatched, the new Cunard Queens aren't the same as QE2.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Apr 25, 2010, 04:16 PM
Maybe done on purpose by Cunard???  So that QE2 can come out of our generation systems...

Wonder how the old Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth passengers felt when that UGLY beast with the funny funnel came along in 1969....

I'm certainly NOT sailing on that thing!!  ( I can hear them now!!) It's nothing like Queen Mary....what an insult!!!

She was sooooo different from the old Queens...and I suppose the time has come for that to come around again...

As much as I DON'T like it.....future generations will come to love them the way we loved QE2 I s'pose.??...
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 25, 2010, 05:11 PM
I think from the inside QM definitely FEELS MUCH MUCH BIGGER than QV.. they have deliberately  tried to make .QV have a smaller  cosier feel inside...and it works to a point...and it took me 10 minutes less to go back to my cabin for something from the pool.!

The companionways not nearly as long as on QM...they go on for ever. she is truly a massive ship.... far too big for me.
They were limited with what they could do with QV, since she is a Vista-class clone.  I don't think they worked at her to make her feel smaller/cosier, they just had no choice! Things such as deck-heights and bulkheads were fixed and had to be worked around. 

QM2 is the only ship specifically designed from the keel up for Cunard (since QE2 ?) and was designed from the outset to have a very large "wow" factor in her main public spaces, with extremely grand, large, tall public spaces, which harked back to the heyday of the great transatlantic liners (e.g. QM1 & Normandie). 

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Apr 25, 2010, 05:25 PM
Rob - you are right. QM2 was the first Cunarder proper since QE2. All the other additions (1969 - 2004) were through acquisition and the Ambassador, Adventurer, Countess and Princess werfe ordered by someone else and taken over by Cunard.

When I joined Cunard in 1994 we had 15 vessels (if you counted the riverboats), a string of luxury hotels and 2 Caribbean resorts.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Apr 25, 2010, 05:34 PM
Weren't areas totally reworked from the original QV hull, which became the P&O Arcadia and give a vastly different interior feel to the QV that eventually was built?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 25, 2010, 05:54 PM
As I understand it, the QV we have today was stretched, mainly to allow for the inclusion of The Queens Room, as the original QV (now Arcadia) had no such space to accommodate the ballroom.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Stowaway2k on Apr 26, 2010, 06:32 AM
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Apr 26, 2010, 07:30 AM
Stowaway (and others) what programe do I need to open your pix above. On my screen it is a blank square with a little coloured button and no amount of clicking will get it to open and show itself.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Apr 26, 2010, 10:11 AM
As I understand it, the QV we have today was stretched, mainly to allow for the inclusion of The Queens Room, as the original QV (now Arcadia) had no such space to accommodate the ballroom.

And QV wasn't even 2nd hand she was 3rd hand as originally she was a HAL hull,....so wonder why HAL didn't want it then palmed it off to P/O then they didn't want it and it ended up in Cunards' back yard.....

Wouldn't it be great if we could have a 3rd TRUE Cunarder as QE2 and QM2........might have to wait a few years for that one.if ever.....the moulds will STILL be getting used for a long time yet....mores the pity eh?

I wonder what QV would have looked like had Cunard not taken over this hull?  Would they have designed a new Cunard class altogether for their newbuilds?  Would love to find out!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 26, 2010, 10:48 AM
The ship that is the current QV, was always going to be the QV - hence the keel-laying ceremony etc.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Apr 26, 2010, 11:57 AM
Stowaway (and others) what programe do I need to open your pix above. On my screen it is a blank square with a little coloured button and no amount of clicking will get it to open and show itself.

It's on YouTube so if you're looking from your work it might be blocked.

Direct link :
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Apr 26, 2010, 01:17 PM
Matt - thanks for the interesting, possibly unique, photos showing all three ships at the same terminal.  However, it rather depends on the height of the tide!  It could make the difference of a couple of decks at least.  Seeing QE2 a few hours apart at the same terminal, it was amazing to see how much bigger/smaller she looked - as well as which new cabins you could see into!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: andyh on Apr 30, 2010, 05:31 PM
Having sailed on all three (QE2, QM2 and QV) - they absolutely have their own on-board atmosphere and personality.

QV feels 'closer' to QE2 than QM2 does, I felt, in that she is smaller, cosier inside. QM2 is so very big and to me, doesn't really feel like QE2 at all.

That said, QE2's ambiance and personality is unmatched, the new Cunard Queens aren't the same as QE2.

Having also been on all three, I have to agree with Chris, and now having three voyages already booked on the Queen Elizabeth, I think that will also have an atmosphere unique to itself
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: RmsAquitania on Apr 30, 2010, 11:30 PM
To me a cunard queen is a ship built for 1)speed 2) size 3) strenght - built to withstand the rigours of a tempremental north atlantic at speed etc. In my opinion, the victoria and the new elizabeth should not have been called queens they just dont fit into the image or class that a proper cunard queen was.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on May 01, 2010, 11:55 AM
I agree Andy....'Queens' are liner status.....the other pair are merely cruise ships........and should have been Princesses or Duchesses....

There is NO comparison...

No matter how much Cunard want to promote them as 'liner cruise ships'....I would NEVER cross the Atlantic in anything other than a liner......for obvious reasons...no matter what others may say or think....as much as I'm no lover of QM2..if I cross the Atlantic by sea I have to sail on her.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on May 03, 2010, 01:18 PM
Love it!


Now back to QV..... she's in Southampton today, anyone going to see her?
http://www.chriscunard.com/queen_victoria_today.php
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 03, 2010, 01:32 PM
Now back to QV..... she's in Southampton today, anyone going to see her?
http://www.chriscunard.com/queen_victoria_today.php
I've tried to rearrange my schedule to allow me to go down to see her, but I've not quite managed it.  Maybe next time.   ::)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on May 03, 2010, 03:31 PM
I have now uploaded my "review" of QV - more of an onboard snapshot then a review, but hopefully it proves interesting reading:

http://www.chriscunard.com/queen_victoria_review.php (http://www.chriscunard.com/queen_victoria_review.php)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2 Canuck on May 03, 2010, 03:54 PM
Hi Chris.... just read your review of Queen Victoria.... a really nice write up.........i see by her bridge cam that she is in at Ocean Dock in Southampton today......If i were in the area, I'd sure go down to see her........But.....because I hate to fly, I'd have to get QM2 to take me over.  I hope to someday travel on board QV......maybe a short voyage that begins and ends in New York... which with her itinerary is not much.    Oh well, maybe in the next few years.... until then it's QM2 and I.
(July 19-Aug 8. Grand Norwegian Wonder......will be looking for your book in the bookshop (QM2 Photographic Journey to add to my collection...

Linda
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on May 03, 2010, 03:59 PM
Thank you Linda for the kind words! I do hope you enjoy the QM2 book once you get it :)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: RmsAquitania on May 05, 2010, 10:00 PM
Very good and interesting review Chris but Im still not getting the urge to try her out. :(
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 13, 2010, 11:01 AM
When we were aboard Queen Victoria we heard all three of her horns / whistles being sounded.

According to our chat with Captain Rynd, she has one "Queen Mary" replica whistle, similar to QM2 (although never advertised aboard - the QM replica is the larger of the two on her funnel) and two of her own (one on the funnel and one below the mast).

The one 'of her own', on the funnel, had (we thought) the nicest sound.



Nothing on QE2, but nicer than the usual tin-sound that QV produces.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 13, 2010, 12:31 PM
Did you try listening for qV's whistle anywhere on Deck 3?
Even outside, in calm waters - it was almost impossible to hear it!

About waste disposal
Here are some links to images in an attempt to show the visible areas in the treatment of waste

There were several minutes several minutes before for the next flush!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4789307705/in/set-72157623165171368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4789307707/in/set-72157623165171368/

Crunched / flattened - ready for the shoreside collection
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4789307733/in/set-72157623165171368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4789967108/in/set-72157623165171368/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4789307741/in/set-72157623165171368/

The chute at the end-stage of glass crunching (I think?!)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/4789928808/in/set-72157623165171368/


Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 13, 2010, 02:35 PM
Hi Rosie,

We found that it depended on which whistle they used. We could hear the funnel-whistle from our Deck Four cabin during the noon tests for example.

Chris. 
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Jul 17, 2010, 07:07 PM
That whistle sounds a bit similer to QE2's horn.

How did Cunard get the rights to the original Queen Mary's whistle?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 20, 2010, 09:05 AM
'News' about Thomas Quinones, queen Elizabeth and queen Victoria

http://wearecunard.com/2010/07/the-world-ship-society-visits-queen-victoria/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jul 20, 2010, 09:38 AM
'News' about Thomas Quinones, queen Elizabeth and queen Victoria

http://wearecunard.com/2010/07/the-world-ship-society-visits-queen-victoria/

I did not know that Thomas Quinones was on the Queen Victoria.  I always enjoyed his heritage tours on the QE2 as he had such a lot of information about the ship so it is good to know that he continuing to pass on his knowledge.  I also went to a Spanish class he held prior to calling at Barcelona and was so pleased that I could say a few words in Spanish even if it was just to order some food and drinks. However I did get a bit muddled up in a shop and my lack of understanding of the language resulted in the shop assistant gift wrapping a very cheap spanish fan in very expensive gift wrap paper.  Although it did not cost me any more money. 

I was also pleased that the group who were given a tour of the ship gave positive feedback about her.  I have sailed on Queen Victoria 3 times and I quite like the ship, which is easy to get around and very comfortable   
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jul 20, 2010, 09:52 AM
Queen Victoria is due on the Clyde for the first time on Wed July 28th. Hopefully the weather will improve for her visit!

 :(

Gav
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 21, 2010, 02:57 PM
News from Captain Greybeard is that Queen Victoria will be visited by Camilla on her visit to Liverpool.

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2010/07/camillas-back-on-board-cunarde.html (http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2010/07/camillas-back-on-board-cunarde.html)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: cunardqueen on Jul 21, 2010, 06:49 PM
The comment posted on that website is so very true !!!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Jul 21, 2010, 07:54 PM
The comment posted on that website is so very true !!!

I agree...but then she no longer fits into Cunard plan for the 'youngest fleet in the world'/..as far as they were concerned she's past it....sad but true I'm afraid.( In THEIR eyes...not mine!)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: maggie maggot on Jul 24, 2010, 09:37 PM
Once the gang is safely home off QM2 we will proably dash over to the Mersey to see Mrs Brown. I have to admit to not being a fan of the Vicky from the outside. I've never sailed on her but sailed beside her. She did make our Winter Crossing to the 3 Queens in NY last longer on the QE2.

 I found this site which might be of use if anyone is free to go to see Queen Victoria at Liverpool
http://pbrstreetgangsrandomstuff.blogspot....a-to-visit.html/

If you are thinking of coming to Liverpool park up in Birkenhead and get the underground train to James Street station to get close to the ship as Liverpool is a... nightmare for parking.

New Brighton is a good spot to see her enter the Mersey and on the same railway line.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 26, 2010, 10:45 PM
This is a Good Shipping News day!

Not only does Liverpool act as host to Queen Victoria,

Very Much More Importantly,
Ship building resumes at Birkenhead's Cammell Laird
Cammell Laird workers will construct the flight deck
Ship building has returned to the banks of the River Mersey, as work begins on an aircraft carrier at Cammell Laird.
More than 350 people are working on the HMS Queen Elizabeth, at the Birkenhead ship yard. It secured the £44m Ministry of Defence contract in January.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-10759500


Edited 28.7.2010 to add this link:
http://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/421846/1.html
Both pages have pics.

and
'Ship building will return to the banks of the River Mersey,
the same day as the Cunard Liner Queen Victoria arrives in Liverpool......
http://www.shiptalk.com/?p=5269

This will mean a great deal to many families on both sides of the Mersey.
 
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: maggie maggot on Jul 27, 2010, 10:02 PM
There was 'A new kid on the berth' yesterday at Liverpool. Although not my favorite Cunarder we had to go to keep the records untodate. I couldn't resist using the Victoria song sung by the very local ( from years ago) Pennine Folk.
In places the words do match.
Cunard Queen Victoria in Liverpool 26th July

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Jem on Jul 28, 2010, 11:06 AM
That was well put together. Enjoyed it, thanks.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Alistair on Jul 28, 2010, 12:58 PM
I dragged myself out of bed early this morning and drove down to Greenock to see the QV arrive at the Ocean Terminal. I had hoped to get there in time to see her arrive but as I sped down the M8 I caught my first sight of her vast bulk already on her final approach. From a distance she looked impressive. Very bulky and a bit top heavy I thought.

I parked on the esplanade on the Gourock side just as she was sliding slowly into her berth. What were my first impressions?

Well....big, modern, glitzy and quite impressive. She must be quite something on the inside. However as I looked closely at the back I started to think of a block of flats sitting on top of a big barge. In fact, if you took the top decks off they wouldn't look out of place at Glasgow Harbour!

The balconied cabins must be a nice place to be though. One cabin about 3 floors up was even sporting a saltire and lion rampant flag. I wondered if I knew the owners of these!  :)

It was a pretty gloomy morning so I guess I didn't see the QV at her best. Having said that the gloom didn't stop the Waverley, which was gliding up behind the QV looking superb as ever.  She must have paddled down river to meet her this morning and accompanied her in to port. I walked round to the other side of the terminal to try to get a view from the front. She was berthed in exactly the same position that the QE2 had been in 2007 on her 40th anniversary tour so that brought back some memories. I was in time to see all the coaches arriving to transport the lucky passengers to a fun filled day in Glasgow.

I'm looking forward to hearing Rob's report of his trip on-board later  :)

One thing I noticed was that the esplanade only had a handful of people there to see the ship. The burger van was NOT doing a good trade. Maybe it will be busier this evening or maybe no other ship has the magic pull of the QE2? I rewarded myself with a greasy burger with onions. My advice for anyone going later...the burgers are good but don't drink the coffee!

On my way back home I was lucky enough to spot the Waverley steaming up river to Glasgow. That brought back memories of our fabulous day out last month. If I can I will go back and see the QV leave later this afternoon.

Here are a few of the pictures I took this morning.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 28, 2010, 01:58 PM
Hello from on board in Greenock in the champagne bar. Pleasantly suprised! More later...
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QueensFan on Jul 28, 2010, 03:50 PM
Hello from on board in Greenock in the champagne bar. Pleasantly suprised! More later...

Join the club!  8) ;D
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Alistair on Jul 28, 2010, 04:30 PM
Don't fall overboard!

Heading down to Greenock for a greasy burger...and....oh yes....see the QV sail away!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: maggie maggot on Jul 28, 2010, 08:55 PM
Did I post this yesterday or is it my age?!!
Mrs Brown in Liverpool.


Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jul 28, 2010, 10:10 PM
Did I post this yesterday or is it my age?!!
Mrs Brown in Liverpool.


You did -- it's further up in this same thread (page 4).

If you ever want to see where your postings are (because some of them might have been moved... for which apologies!), you can click on your own name, or on the "Profile" button at the top of the page, and then check "Show the last posts of this person" -- and all is revealed!

Isabelle (with my Moderator hat on  8) )
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 29, 2010, 08:42 AM
Comments and images of Queen Victoria's call at the Port of Liverpool
These and other images elsewhere  go a long way to show how QE2 could fit in

http://www.wikiwirral.co.uk/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/421846/1.html

Wishing still that  QE2 could be moored here...bang in the middle of Town!
Wouldn't it meet all her requirements, as well as most of the area's too?
I can remember literally miles of ships parked up bow to stern alongside,
on both sides of the river.

Hello QE2DXB
If you are reading this, do you think it might ever be possible - please?
Perhaps before she goes to Greenock for the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow!

PS. To Rob - Here qV is called an iconic Liner - please forgive the mistake!! ;)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: cunardqueen on Jul 29, 2010, 10:00 AM
(http://a.imageshack.us/img706/8660/img188p.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Jul 29, 2010, 12:40 PM
Thanks for the link Rosie.  Some of the responses to the article were interesting...

These slab-sided floating boxes are (IMHO) hideous ! Nothing like a "cruise liner" !. They appear to be inherantly unstable. The draught they draw is completely insufficient for the weight/height/area above the waterline.

A real Force 12 sea running in some foreign pond or other, plus the windage...... over she goes ! Maybe a thousand or so folk heading for Davy Jones's Locker whilst trying to get out of their rip-off priced, upside down, pitch black "luxury" coffins/cabins.

No - I'm not a naval architect. I just have a bit of commonsense and an appreciation of basic physics.

One day baby, one day !!! Mark my words. Maybe not this floating block of flats, but a similar buoyant hideousity.You heard it first on wikiwirral ! It would be handy for future historians if Cunard changed its name back to the White Star Line. (Titanic - geddit?)


At least the poster admits they're not a naval architect!   :P  I cannot believe it has been almost 2 years since QE2 made her final call to Liverpool.  :'(
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Alistair on Jul 29, 2010, 02:16 PM
Hello again.

Just to bookend my post from yesterday.....I went back down to Greenock to see the QV sail off. The esplanade was a bit busier this time. Took me longer to find a parking space! I got to the water's edge just in time to see and hear the Waverley set off. She blew her horn and a few seconds later there was an asthamtic wheeze which was apparently the QV replying!  About 10 minutes later the QV started to slowly move out in reverse. There wasn't a tug in site so she is a very manouverable lady! Seeing her full length with the light reflecting off the cabin windows she was an impressive site. The Waverley headed off down river as if to say..."Follow me. You may be a Queen but not of THIS river!"  Having completed her manouver she was ready to go. Three more asthamtic blasts of her horn later....they need to do somethign about that....she moved off. People around me were laughing. I think they were expecting a chest vibrating wall of sound like they got in October '08. Apart from the horn fiasco the Queen Victoria headed majestically down river. She is an impressive ship.

Alistair
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 29, 2010, 03:20 PM
OK so...  After Giving QV/QE such a hard time, its only fair to give some proper comments after my enjoyable visit yesterday.

Please note that this comes from the viewpoint of someone who is not interested in cruise ships, or cruising, has a lifelong love for the Clydebuilt Cunard Queens, and a respect for the QM2.

I took 2 friends with me.  Both have no interest in ships, or have ever been on a cruise ship - which i always find an interesting counterpoint.  They both made the comment to me, whenever i made any criticism of the ship, that "you have awfully high standards for someone who's unemplyed" and I realised they were right.  I can't afford to go on any cruise any time soon, so felt honoured just to be on board for a few hours and I am very grateful for the chance to see her.

All of the below comments disregard the fact that she's a cruise ship not an Atlantic liner - i tried to just think of the on board experience, which i think its fair to compare to QE2, because it should be as good or better.

Arriving at Greenock cruise terminal, our view was of most of QV, except the front and back.  From this limited angle, I thought she looked very like QM2, but smaller... in fact I didn't really think she looked bigger than QE2 at all even though I know she is higher.  I didn't think she looked bad, just not interesting.  Row upon row of egg-crate balcones.  Just as we were disembarking from the car, QV blew her whistles three long times.  I thought she sounded OK - in fact I thought she sounded better than QM2.  Then I realised that she had been saluting Waverley which was out of our viewpoint.  Waverley responded with three WONDERFUL blasts on her proper steam whistles - even though we couldn't see her, this was still a high point of the day!  At this point I was a bit excited - red funnels, whistles, Cunard, friends, even sunshine - all was good!  (especially after having a crap time recently).

After lengthy security procedures from disorganised security people which took over 40 minutes, we were welcomed on board by 'flagship' who then gave us a lovely tour for a few hours.  Here are some of my reactions.  
1) I thought i'd absolutely *hate* the olde-worlde- interior.  I was prepared to have to firmly bite my tongue. But for some reason i found it much less off-putting when on board, in fact the whole interior seems more modern in the flesh than it does in photos.
2) Brown!  So much so that it upset the 'auto white balance' on my camera.
3) The Plastic decks are just *awful*. Truly dreadful and as far as I can see, unfit for purpose (slippery when wet).
4) She feels no bigger than QE2, in fact she might actually feel slightly smaller.
Passenger corriders felt like those on ferries - very narrow and uninteresting - and the stairways also felt quite steep with shallow steps - although I like the wood veneer and the lots of old ship paintings everywhere.
5) Although far less 'wow' than QM2 inside, she is, I think, nicer.  She has that 'cosy' relaxing feel that QE2 had.
6) The Queens Room is a lovely space, and I felt very much felt like the Grand Lounge on QE2.  I loved the sofas and tables right by the picture windows starboard side.  This would be a lovely place for afternoon tea.  It makes QM2's seem simply too big.
7) The winter garden felt like i'd been plunged into a nursing home.  I'm not even sure if everybody in this room was still alive.
8 ) The Lido was nice, with nice views, and worked well (and tasted good!).
9) The commodore club is superb - the views were simply stunning here, and I can see it would be a brilliant place to sit for afternoon drinks. I liked Hemispheres too, and the nice corridor space between these rooms.
10) The Lido pool deck area was nice, as was the one outside the winter garden.  I was disappointed to learn that the pools aren't seawater though (Michael kindly risked his good suit to check!).
11) I thought the Britannia restaurant looked awful - 80s glitzy gold and mirrors - until Michael explained what the designers had been trying to do with it - they were trying to make it feel like the interiors of a famous 30s railway carriage - i forget the name - he said it was explained in a press release - but its this sort of fact that I love, and can make you love a space.  To understand what they were trying to do.  I think they need a sign explaining this, and to include an explanation of it on the tour!

As we went around, Michael explained what they were changing on Elizabeth, and it all sounded good.  The Yacht Club in particular will be nice, and an excellent place for a TheQE2Story gathering sometime in the future.  My friends were absolutely gobsmacked to learn that Elizabeth would be so similar that some rooms would be identical except for different decor.

We all had a really enjoyable time, and I disembarked thinking she'd be a lovely ship to go a cruise on.  But I don't do cruise holidays!

I would heartily recommend her to someone who enjoyed cruise holidays on QE2.

Two final things - we stayed to watch her leave.  The esplanade was quiet until quite close to 6 when it suddently filled up - i think people knew when she was leaving, and it coincided with the drive home from work.  
She reversed her square stern towards us and then spun neatly around.  As she was doing this, i could hear comments both from my friends and those around us - of disappointment - she's simply ugly/boring to look at.  Simple as that.  I also think some sort of optical illusion makes her look, to me, a lot smaller than QE2.  The snubby bow, combined with the fragile-looking bridge structure just doesn't inspire confidence.

I just wish she'd not been called a Queen.  I can't get over that.  And it makes me unfairly feel disappointed in her, when its not her fault.  Perhaps she should just have been called 'Victoria' and the new one simply 'Elizabeth'.  That might have been nice.  And it might be how I refer to them from now on.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: cunardqueen on Jul 29, 2010, 06:51 PM
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"you have awfully high standards for someone who's unemplyed" and I realised they were right.  I can't afford to go on any cruise any time soon, so felt honoured just to be on board for a few hours and I am very grateful for the chance to see her.

High standards indeed? its only because QE2 spoilt us so much !  She set the standards by which we judge ;D
Mindyou when you do save up your hard earned pennies, l do think you appreciate much more, rather than take things for granted.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Jul 29, 2010, 07:20 PM
Glad you got the opportunity to see Queen Victoria Rob....and you got your own feel of the ship....she really is very nice inside.. and a better size to get around than QM2....she is very comfortable...but I would not choose to sail across the Atlantic on her...that's the job for a real liner.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: maggie maggot on Jul 29, 2010, 07:49 PM
(http://a.imageshack.us/img706/8660/img188p.jpg)
Very good Myles and good that Waverley was able to give you all of you visiting Vicky a whistle. Just don't start me on where was Waverley on QE's 40th and last trip around the UK!!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Clyde Paddler on Jul 29, 2010, 08:47 PM

What a rubbish bit of reporting by Maureen Culley - whoever she is - as far as the Waverley is concerned  >:(  It makes it sound as if she was withdrawn in 1973 and then did nothing until 2003, when there had been three decades of hard work by members of the Paddle Steamer Preservation Society, not to mention the ship's operating companies, to return her to service and keep her running during the whole of that time, apart from the first few months. 

As far as returning her to 'her original 1940s style' was concerned, the most major change was the return to horrible brown paint on the fidlee casings and ventilators (instead of black and white, respectively), which was forced upon us by the Lottery - and which most of us would change back, given half the chance.

Some people should get their facts right!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 30, 2010, 03:04 AM
11) I thought the Britannia restaurant looked awful - 80s glitzy gold and mirrors - until Michael explained what the designers had been trying to do with it - they were trying to make it feel like the interiors of a famous 30s railway carriage - i forget the name - he said it was explained in a press release - but its this sort of fact that I love, and can make you love a space.  To understand what they were trying to do.  I think they need a sign explaining this, and to include an explanation of it on the tour!

It was designed to resemble (inspired by) the Orient Express dining car.

(http://mermaidspurse.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/orient-express-dining-car.jpg)
(http://www.backroombluegrassband.com/steamtripjournal/images/WHJAOE1.jpg)

* Images: http://au.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?ei=UTF-8&p=orient+express+dining+car&fr2=tab-web&fr=b2ie7
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 30, 2010, 12:05 PM
Chris,

Orient Express didn't ring a bell - if Michael had said that I'd have remembered, so I've had a google, found the press release and found that its the Golden Arrow.

Quote from: Queen Victoria Press Release
The ship’s largest dining venue, Britannia was inspired by the dining car of the famed Golden Arrow that linked London to Paris. Its Art Deco design influences are captured

It seems like some of the original Golden Arrow's carriages form part of the current "orient express".

Have a look at this - http://www.cunard.com/Documents/Press%20Kits/USA/Queen%20Victoria/QV%20Art.pdf - has anyone done the self guided tours mentioned here?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 30, 2010, 02:31 PM
Here's some of my photos of the day - https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightbody/sets/72157624490696537/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Alistair on Jul 30, 2010, 03:34 PM
Great photos Rob. Wish I'd been there now.
Is the use of plastic on the decks instead of wood got anything to do with fire safety or was it thought just to be a good idea I wonder?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 30, 2010, 03:35 PM
Great photos Rob. Wish I'd been there now.
Is the use of plastic on the decks instead of wood got anything to do with fire safety or was it thought just to be a good idea I wonder?
Purely a cost saving apparently.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jul 30, 2010, 07:36 PM
OK so...  After Giving QV/QE such a hard time, its only fair to give some proper comments after my enjoyable visit yesterday.

Excellent story, Rob! Mind you, I had to suspend my own unbelief at times... Seems you liked her a lot better than you expected. Great you had a chance to see her for yourself -- and to write it up for us too.  I really enjoyed reading this.

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They both made the comment to me, whenever i made any criticism of the ship, that "you have awfully high standards for someone who's unemployed" and I realised they were right.

Employed or unemployed makes no difference -- you are still the same person and have a right to a point of view. How would you feel if you were spending a week (with sea days and port days) on board?

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2) Brown!  So much so that it upset the 'auto white balance' on my camera.

Did you like the colour scheme?

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4) She feels no bigger than QE2, in fact she might actually feel slightly smaller.
Passenger corriders felt like those on ferries - very narrow and uninteresting - and the stairways also felt quite steep with shallow steps - although I like the wood veneer and the lots of old ship paintings everywhere.

Were there more sea views than on QM2?

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As we went around, Michael explained what they were changing on Elizabeth, and it all sounded good.

What will the decks be made of? There are so many materials possible -- plastic would come very far down my list of preferences...
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 30, 2010, 08:55 PM
Hello Isabelle
Not for nowt is she called Mrs Brown
 - and her decking is almost brown too!
For the colour of the decks, have a look here 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/watch_keeper/sets/72157622255428018/
They feel a bit like sort of rubber to walk on.....

Thank you, Rob
It's very good to read your thoughts!


Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2 whistle on Jul 30, 2010, 10:23 PM
We were aboard Waverley for Queen Victoria's escort down the Clyde.  Here are a few of our pictures. 
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 30, 2010, 11:38 PM
........
 has anyone done the self-guided tours mentioned here?

Not yet - it looks interesting!
I'll take a print-out with me
(Heading off to the Baltic - where it seems as if it's almost as hot as it is in Dubai)
Sometime during the next 2 weeks, there should be the opportunity
And will report back....
making special reference to anything that is linked directly, or otherwise ;), with QE2!


Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Jul 31, 2010, 06:26 AM
We were aboard Waverley for Queen Victoria's escort down the Clyde.  Here are a few of our pictures. 

Does anyone know why the funnel casing doesn't come up to the top of the pipes sticking out?  There must be a reason, but it looks so untidy.  (This is not really a complaint.  I am actually just curious as to why.)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 31, 2010, 07:39 AM
Purely a cost saving apparently.

...and yet every one of the HAL Vista's have wooden (teak) decks.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Jul 31, 2010, 11:43 AM
Thanks for the link Rosie.  Some of the responses to the article were interesting...

These slab-sided floating boxes are (IMHO) hideous ! Nothing like a "cruise liner" !. They appear to be inherantly unstable. The draught they draw is completely insufficient for the weight/height/area above the waterline.

A real Force 12 sea running in some foreign pond or other, plus the windage...... over she goes ! Maybe a thousand or so folk heading for Davy Jones's Locker whilst trying to get out of their rip-off priced, upside down, pitch black "luxury" coffins/cabins.

No - I'm not a naval architect. I just have a bit of commonsense and an appreciation of basic physics.

One day baby, one day !!! Mark my words. Maybe not this floating block of flats, but a similar buoyant hideousity.You heard it first on wikiwirral ! It would be handy for future historians if Cunard changed its name back to the White Star Line. (Titanic - geddit?)


At least the poster admits they're not a naval architect!   :P  I cannot believe it has been almost 2 years since QE2 made her final call to Liverpool.  :'(

Cheery person this one!! I assume they dont like Mrs Brown then!! My only concern with modern ship design is the tendancy towards packing more people on board (Oasis of the Seas comes to mind) but I dont think she would be unstable - just a nightmare to evacuate if it was required. Lets hope it never is.

Back to our cheery chum from the Mersey - some anger management required here methinks!!  ;)

Two weeks today we'll be in Southampton waiting to get on the hideous unstable monster that is QV for 2 weeks in the Med - cannae wait!!!!!  ;D

Gav
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Jul 31, 2010, 12:15 PM
...and yet every one of the HAL Vista's have wooden (teak) decks.

Chris, I think this use of the painted on "teak", in all fairness to Cunard, is not unique to QV.  Here is a few shots of HAL's Eurodam.  The very lowest deck at the bow, is brown paint, the remaining decks are the painted on teak with the black painted on caulking seams.  The ship does have the main deck (boat deck equivalent) done in teak, but everywhere else is that brown stuff.

(http://highlander0108.smugmug.com/photos/953388332_bSeuv-M.jpg)

(http://highlander0108.smugmug.com/photos/953387331_EJ7tU-M.jpg)
Regarding the funnel and the untidyness of all the engine exhausts, I still am looking for a real answer why they could not have extended the casing up a pit like QE2's.  Eurodams' is just as bad.

(http://highlander0108.smugmug.com/photos/953388015_nC7jb-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 31, 2010, 12:41 PM
A nice wee photo of some of us on board QV in Greenock.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 31, 2010, 01:09 PM
Definitely a nice wee photo, Rob
[Who hid the Badges, then?! ;) ]
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QueensFan on Jul 31, 2010, 03:51 PM
Nice photo! Last time I was on that deck, it was covered with snow. :o

I think you got a bit of the reason I've found myself loving both QM2 and QV. They seem to each capture half of what made QE2 special...it just so happens that instead of it coming in one QE2-sized package, it comes in two bigger ones.

QM2 is most definitely the technical and spiritual successor to QE2...the proper liner, with all the engineering to go with. But she's so vast inside compared to QE2, leading to a completely different hotel feeling.

QV, on the other hand, is a bit of a cookie-cutter thing, but she has captured, to me, the hotel experience of QE2 as close as is possible. She feels intimate, with smaller, cozier rooms where people can bump into each other and chat easily. But...she's still a cruise ship, one of the nicest ones out there, but not a true liner.

So to me, the QE2 spirit lives on. In two ships. Both of which are missing a major component of QE2. I can cross the Atlantic on QM2 in great confidence, but those seven (ugh) days are not going to feel the same as QE2. On QV, I can cruise (or in my case, cross more daringly) with a good portion of the inside feeling of QE2...but she's...not QE2.

So I guess I'm stuck with a love for three, soon to be four ships. One steady love affair with a lovely older woman, one hot new fast girl, and two little flings. :-\
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 31, 2010, 04:26 PM
Thanks Ken, should have said "Teak Promenade".
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 31, 2010, 04:29 PM
Chris,

Orient Express didn't ring a bell - if Michael had said that I'd have remembered, so I've had a google, found the press release and found that its the Golden Arrow.

It seems like some of the original Golden Arrow's carriages form part of the current "orient express".

Have a look at this - http://www.cunard.com/Documents/Press%20Kits/USA/Queen%20Victoria/QV%20Art.pdf - has anyone done the self guided tours mentioned here?

Very interesting!

Captain Rynd told us about the Orient Express connection during the media conference in Fremantle, but interesting to read of the connection between the OE and Golden Arrow!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Jul 31, 2010, 05:03 PM
Thanks Ken, should have said "Teak Promenade".

Does QV have teak at least there?  I wonder how much teak will be used on QE?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 31, 2010, 06:10 PM
Does QV have teak at least there?  I wonder how much teak will be used on QE?
No. She has none. And there will be none on qE either.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: highlander0108 on Aug 01, 2010, 01:36 AM
No. She has none. And there will be none on qE either.

In my eyes, that is a major shortcoming and probably damagerous to walk on in inclement weather.  I am shocked that they could not at least do the most prominent deck.  At least teak could be easily added in the future.  Remember that QE2 did not have all the teak she has now when originally built.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2 whistle on Aug 01, 2010, 06:49 PM
I agree it is dangerous.  We were on the Maiden Voyage on Victoria.  I was running along the deck in Hamburg to see the fireworks and ended up flat on my back!  It was a cold night and I think the deck had condensation on it.  I told Cunard on the survey at then end of the cruise that it was dangerous and cheap looking.  It is the one thing I hate on Victoria, however I do like her decor and especially love her clock.  I am always around when it chimes.  ;)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 01, 2010, 06:52 PM
Re the Clock....I did a real hilarious thing on the maiden voyage...dying to see it chime MIDNIGHT...and when it did  I ran up one side of the stairs..(~ deliberately having one of my shoes fall off on the stair....and having a male friend lift it up and run after me down the other side...all taped on the camcorder....I was Cinderella just for 5 minutes!!

Oh dear....the passengers are REALLY going downhill now eh??LOL  It was a great laugh at the time....and I will always remember it....every time I see that clock it reminds me!

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2 whistle on Aug 01, 2010, 06:56 PM
I missed that one!  Pity the clock can't tell stories eh!  ::)
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Aug 02, 2010, 12:00 PM
I realised something, after posting the photo of us on the Lido above.  Although very pleasant sitting there with friends in the sunshine, the Lido area is not a patch on the ones on either QE2 or the SS Rotterdam Cruise Hotel!  The Rotterdam has lovely teak decking, a lovely view overhead (those majestic funnels and sweeping decks), posh seating and tables... all absent on Victoria.  I think the metal/plastic chairs/tables in particular are odd - why have these been used?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Aug 02, 2010, 12:02 PM
I have just returned from a very pleasant round Britain cruise on the Queen Victoria which not only was the maiden port of call for the QV to most ports but also was a celebration of 170 years since the first Cunard ship sailed from Liverpool.

The two highlights was Liverpool where the Halle Orchestra was on board for an evening concert to start the celebrations onboard.  There was a wonderful fireworks display prior to the sail away (Thanks to Maggie Maggot for posting a Youtube clip with some of the fireworks).  A Beatles tribute band played in the Winter Garden which gave a real party feeling to the sail away as we danced under the stars and dancing to the Fab Four’s music was a real treat for an “old” Beatles fan.

The second highlight was Greenock where the SS Waverley accompanied us into Greenock and escorted the QV back down the Clyde.  Can I just say to the Waverley enthusiasts on the forum that passengers on the ship were so enamoured with the Waverley, particularly when she was escorting us down the Clyde in the evening.  She just looked spectacular as she glistened in the evening sun.  Many passengers we spoke to did not have any knowledge of the Waverley and I had told them that she was 60 years old and had been purchased by the Paddle Steamer Preservation Society1973 for £1 with the aim of preserving this wonderful steam paddle ship.  I also told them about the QE2 forum members’ trip down the Clyde on the Waverley and how much we had enjoyed being on board.  Thank-you Waverley for making the Greenock sail away so special!  

In Greenock we also met up with Rob and his friends when they came on board to see round the ship and it was so nice to meet up with forum members again.  I was interested to read Rob’s write up about the ship.  The QV public areas are very nice and there is a friendly feel about the ship very similar to QE2.  I agree with Rob that the Britannia Dining room would not be to everyone’s taste and was interested to read that the designer intended to create a luxury train dining car appearance with the use of the dark wood.  I probably prefer the QM2’s Britannia Restaurant but would need to have another cruise on her to compare.  Interesting observation from Rob about the “Winter Garden being like being plunged into a nursing home”!  I must be showing my age as I quite like sitting there reading my book and listening to music on my MP3 player.  It can be particularly pleasant when the retractable roof is open and it is just like sitting in the garden.  When the Beatles tribute band was on board they played there in the evening and there were people of all ages in the Garden Room dancing the night away under the stars.  

The QV external design cannot compare to the sleek lines QE2 and I doubt if any modern cruise ship could compare, as they are meeting the needs of a modern cruise market who prefer to have balconies. I have mixed feelings about the use of teak for the decks.  I love teak wood but the question of deforestation comes to mind and in this respect I wonder if it is right to use teak wood for cruise ship decks when a more modern material is fit for purpose.  However, I need to read more about deforestation of teak wood and the use of the material in boat building before making a finale judgement.  

Finally there were many ex QE2 passengers on board ship that we spoke to.  The same message was repeated time and time again. Everyone misses the QE2 and think she is the greatest ship they have every sailed on.  
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Aug 02, 2010, 12:10 PM
I wonder if they could at least mould the plastic decking to look like teak, complete with grain patterns?

It would probably give more grip and therefore be safer as well?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2 whistle on Aug 02, 2010, 05:24 PM
Lynda, you looked swell heading down the Clyde.  We were on Waverley alongside you.  We got a few good whistles from you and returned them too!  Here's a picture of how you looked from Waverley (and the QE2 came along too).  Glad you enjoyed your cruise.  Regards from Shona & Alan.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Aug 02, 2010, 05:45 PM
Hi Shona and Alan

Thanks for posting the photos of the QV from the Waverley.  Seemed like you had a good day on the Waverley.  I wish I could have been in two places at the same time - on the QV then on the Waverley. 
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Aug 02, 2010, 11:11 PM
I have mixed feelings about the use of teak for the decks.  I love teak wood but the question of deforestation comes to mind and in this respect I wonder if it is right to use teak wood for cruise ship decks when a more modern material is fit for purpose.  However, I need to read more about deforestation of teak wood and the use of the material in boat building before making a finale judgement.

I understand that there are now good sources of sustainable plantation teak, which is eminently suited to replacing the previously used teak from virgin forests. It makes sense to encourage such ecological ventures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teak

This article also leads to "plantation teak" and to the Forest Stewardship Council.

I also understand that bamboo wood can make very pleasant and durable deck planks.

All of which (including blue paint or astroturf) I would prefer to plastic pretend-teak -- particularly if this was slippy in wet conditions, i.e. those conditions when I most love to be out on deck...
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Magic Pipe on Aug 02, 2010, 11:54 PM
For what its worth, the decking on the Queen Victoria is not plastic.  Its actually a poured epoxy, where the resin, hardener and small sand-like aggregate are mixed into a slurry and spread over the deck like concrete.  I actually have a sample of the stuff on my desk at work, and if applied correctly it is very durable, hence its appeal.  Once applied, it requires little to no maintenance, unlike teak which needs to be refinished regularly.  Poured epoxy is also not cheap - the price is comparable to that of teak.  It just requires less maintenance.
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Chris Frame on Aug 03, 2010, 04:41 AM
Added some more photos of QV from our March voyage:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chriscunard/sets/72157624423306691/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 03, 2010, 10:12 AM
   I think the metal/plastic chairs/tables in particular are odd - why have these been used?

MONEY my dear Robert  ......MONEY!!!!   what else?
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Aug 03, 2010, 11:26 AM
Magic Pipe - thanks for the fascinating information.  It felt to me that with more sand mixed in, it might be OK.  It needs to be less smooth and shiny.  The surface on the lido deck is better - possibly because it isn't pretending to be wood - but it also feels grippier under foot.
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 03, 2010, 12:50 PM
Just had a funny thought Rob....you said you can easily see why QV is called Mrs Brown....cause shes so BROWN inside...well....when Lizzie comes along...no doubt pretty brown as well....we can call them THE BROONS!!!! hee hee....( Well i thought it was funny anyway)  for those non scottish members..the Broons is a comic strip in the Scottish Sunday post....been going for about 87 years or more!! ( Which one is Daphne? LOL)
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 03, 2010, 10:01 PM
Ahoy there!
from Queen Victoria

In the cabin, there are 2 very significant TV Channels
One is round the clock QE2 documentaries,
with other old Cunarders 'thrown in' (!) for good measure

And...another Channel dedicated to round the clock lectures complete with photos given by Chris Frame

Queen Victoria saluted the departing Arcadia in Copenhagen today -
Her Whistle is now much deeper,
there was much merriment as she responded well to Arcadia's high-pitched little number!
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: highlander0108 on Aug 03, 2010, 11:22 PM
Rosie, you just can't get away from this forum can you.   ;)  Glad to hear that Cunard is NOT neglecting QE2, at least onboard.  Now go have a great time and stay out of the Computer Center or whatever they call it onboard QV.
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: maggie maggot on Aug 03, 2010, 11:23 PM
Hi Lynda
I am glad you enjoyed the fireworks I now think I could do a dvd with about 3 hours of Cunard firworks, but that would cure anyone.
The footage of Queen Vicky is a bit shorter than that of QE2 & QM2 but at least I got  a record of her first vist to the pool.
With a bit of luck, and fair weather we should be on Waverley on Thursday but unfortunatly no ship to escort.
Glad you have enjoyed the Waverley its just a shame that so many people havn't been on board or know her story. Some of us have been involved with the ship for years so maybe we must keep on promoting her as there are so few real ship left sailing.
Maggot
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Aug 04, 2010, 11:14 AM
With a bit of luck, and fair weather we should be on Waverley on Thursday but unfortunatly no ship to escort.
Glad you have enjoyed the Waverley its just a shame that so many people havn't been on board or know her story. Some of us have been involved with the ship for years so maybe we must keep on promoting her as there are so few real ship left sailing.
Maggot

 Hi Maggie, I so hope you get good weather for your trip on the Waverley on Thursday.  It is impossible to convey just how much in awe that people on the Victoria were of the Waverley. After the sail away we went to the Commodore Club which is at the front of the ship, to enjoy watching the scenery and the Waverley escort.  We were speaking to staff about the Waverley and other people sitting near us were also interested and were asking questions. From the ship you could see the Waverley's  paddles turning and I was able to tell them how magnificent it was to see the engines working when sailing on the Waverley.
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 04, 2010, 12:12 PM
Yes ....she's a wee smasher!!  I luv that noise of the paddles..

.Folks tell me when I'm swimming in the local pool I make a noise like her  paddles everytime I kick and take a stroke...... as it's so continuous and timed......still trying to work out if that's a compliment or not...LOL!  Wish I could go THAT fast!!
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Chris Frame on Aug 04, 2010, 03:01 PM

And...another Channel dedicated to round the clock lectures complete with photos given by Chris Frame


what did you think? :)

and yes, her whistle has changed hasn't it!!
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 04, 2010, 04:38 PM
not quite as much like a tin whistle as it was previously.
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: highlander0108 on Aug 05, 2010, 01:36 AM
I don't think many of you follow this guys blog since he works for Carnival  :o, but he is quite entertaining.  I've been following since his blog inception and like his style.  He had some very glowing praise for the ship during a visit to the yard during construction.  With this post, I think he really captured the spirit of Cunard in his recent blog post on Queen Victoria's visit to Liverpool.

http://johnhealdsblog.com/2010/07/27/by-royal-appointment/
Title: Re: QV Topic 1 of 2 - General Discussion
Post by: cunardqueen on Aug 05, 2010, 12:21 PM
Quote
don't think many of you follow this guys blog since he works for Carnival  , but he is quite entertaining.  I've been following since his blog inception and like his style.  He had some very glowing praise for the ship during a visit to the yard during construction.  With this post, I think he really captured the spirit of Cunard in his recent blog post on Queen Victoria's visit to Liverpool.

http://johnhealdsblog.com/2010/07/27/by-royal-appointment/

He works for Carnival? Well l would never have guessed it ;)
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 09, 2010, 07:52 AM
Queen Victoria from QE2 (2008)
That crossing...again!
Thanks to arizonagcs
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Nov 09, 2010, 10:11 AM
It would be good to see video footage of the QE2 from the QV to compare how well she coped with what was quite choppy conditions.  I love sailing on the QV but did not like how her bow was pitching (for want of a better word) so much in these conditions. 
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 09, 2010, 12:18 PM
Here you are Lynda!
Specially for you!
(Hoping that Queen Victoria won't mind this superb video on her topic
and it is already elsewhere on the Forum!)
Thanks to QE220091967
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Nov 09, 2010, 06:51 PM
Thank you so much Rosie.  I really enjoyed looking at the two video clips. 

Re:  (Hoping that Queen Victoria won't mind this superb video on her topic
and it is already elsewhere on the Forum!)


I am sure QV  will not mind this QE2 clip being in her topic as you need the two views to compare how both ships coped with the Atlantic Storm and both coped well.   
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 03, 2010, 01:22 PM
MV Queen Victoria's in Hamburg for her refit.
There's been little written about the refit - any ideas, anyone?
Fingers crossed that her Bit above the Bridge won't be changed...
She'll be taking us across the North Atlantic :)
sailing on 5th Jan 2011 in tandem with her sister ship.
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Jem on Dec 03, 2010, 09:27 PM
MV Queen Victoria's in Hamburg for her refit.
There's been little written about the refit - any ideas, anyone?
Fingers crossed that her Bit above the Bridge won't be changed...
She'll be taking us across the North Atlantic :)
sailing on 5th Jan 2011 in tandem with her sister ship.
While on QM2 I was chatting to one of the photographers and he mentioned this refit she's currently having. He thought there were some structural issues concerning her Atlantic crossing that had to be looked into.
How true it turns out to be I don't know.
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 03, 2010, 11:44 PM
While on QM2 I was chatting to one of the photographers and he mentioned this refit she's currently having. He thought there were some structural issues concerning her Atlantic crossing that had to be looked into.
How true it turns out to be I don't know.

Oooh! Jem.
Did he really 'know' do you think?!
Sounds as if we could be in for an 'interesting time!! ;)
Hopefully for the sake of QV that she behaves well enough, she's been considerably overshadowed of late,
and she's probably feeling a bit neglected - any adverse publicity wouldn't do her any good at all.
Hope she'll be creaking well by Jan 5!!
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Jem on Dec 04, 2010, 02:16 AM
Oooh! Jem.
Did he really 'know' do you think?!
Sounds as if we could be in for an 'interesting time!! ;)
Hopefully for the sake of QV that she behaves well enough, she's been considerably overshadowed of late,
and she's probably feeling a bit neglected - any adverse publicity wouldn't do her any good at all.
Hope she'll be creaking well by Jan 5!!
Rosie, I think your going to have a fantastic time on 5th Jan. You can't beat a TA. How long is the crossing due to take? I notice QM2 will now take 7 days! Still the longer at sea the happier I'd be. ;D
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: highlander0108 on Dec 04, 2010, 04:13 AM
While on QM2 I was chatting to one of the photographers and he mentioned this refit she's currently having. He thought there were some structural issues concerning her Atlantic crossing that had to be looked into.
How true it turns out to be I don't know.

I'm going to guess that they are going to address the flexing flor plates that were well documented as being a problem on the first crossing; not so much a structural problem as the ship has to flex, but disconcerting to the occupants of the "staterooms."  And then there was the crack that showed up on the Lloyds inspection. 

From what has been reported elsewhere, there are no plans (yet) to add those aft cabins staterooms and to square off the stern like her sister QE3.  Perhaps Flagship can confirm what work is being done.
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: rough crossing on Dec 04, 2010, 09:05 PM
We've just got back from the QV and were told the refit is going to address deck 3 at the forward end and connect port and starboard sides in order to achieve a continuous open deck route around the ship. On this trip we were on deck 8 and came through some quite rough weather around the Bay of Biscay - a force 10 storm according to Capt Rynd - but I didn't hear anyone complaining of buckling floor plates as on the TA with QE2. Capt Rynd announced at the World Club party the appointment of Cunards first female captain and she was due to take over from him on the QV.
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 04, 2010, 11:40 PM
We've just got back from the QV and were told the refit is going to address deck 3 at the forward end and connect port and starboard sides in order to achieve a continuous open deck route around the ship. On this trip we were on deck 8 and came through some quite rough weather around the Bay of Biscay - a force 10 storm according to Capt Rynd - but I didn't hear anyone complaining of buckling floor plates as on the TA with QE2. Capt Rynd announced at the World Club party the appointment of Cunards first female captain and she was due to take over from him on the QV.

That's interesting, rough crossing, and it'll be fantastic if we can do a complete open-air walkabout!
Deck 3 (Promenade deck) currently ends well short of the foredeck on both sides of the ship; from memory, isn't it also at the bow of that deck where the theatre circle is (as well as the upper bit of the stage), and where the 'cat's whisker's hatches are situated (I think!)?
The crew use the forward area of Deck 4, and I think there may be doors forward on Deck 5 / 6 - Somewhere that I have meant to explore, but somehow never got there!
Forward on Deck ?9 outside the Spa/ fitness centre - beneath the windows of the Commodore club, and above the Bridge, this looked interesting too; there were people out there at the time of docking, however they may have been Officers off watch, or fitness people....?


Didn't you think that QV weathered the stormy seas well?
Although with a cabin immediately above the bow on Deck 4 during a Force 9 gale, often unable to open the balcony doors, and sometimes the sound of waves (I think) crashing beneath us - her stability was impressive.
Not too sure what it might have been like on the lower decks, though?!

Yes - Isn't Captain Inge(?) Olsen on board now?

 
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Bruce Nicholls on Dec 05, 2010, 10:22 AM
We sailed on QV in December 08 in the Med & had some roughish weather and were delayed at Civitavecchia due to a beam gale keeping us pressed against the quayside.

Despite some big seas we heard no undue creaks & groans either from QV or fellow passengers. Our stateroom was one of the steel fronted ones just over the Cunard near the bow and we certainly had spray flashing past our balcony on several days.

Unfortunately I have so far failed to succeed posting photos, but will post some when I crack it.

I think extending the deck round to make a circuit would be a great improvement.
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Dec 05, 2010, 01:11 PM

Unfortunately I have so far failed to succeed posting photos, but will post some when I crack it.


Have a look at these guidelines -- let us know if you need further information.

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,2337.0.html

If your photos are on Flickr, there is a tiny trick to work out since their recent changes (let me know if you need it) -- it is easy once you have managed to do it the first time.

The other thing you can do, is to upload the photos to the QE2Story Gallery and then to refer to them there.

Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Dec 06, 2010, 11:35 AM
Whlist on QV in August I was speaking to couple of the engineers - they were saying that the cracking was nothing new - seemingly the older Vista boats suffered a wee bit from this.

Like everything else the whole story will be blown completely out of proportion as the MCA would withdraw the vessel's passenger certificate if there was a real problem.

Gav
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Dec 09, 2010, 09:07 PM
Does anyone know what is being done to Victoria on her refit?  I have read, generally, that carpets are being changed (refreshed) but will there be an substantive changes?  Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: rough crossing on Dec 09, 2010, 09:27 PM
Further to our recent trip on the Victoria - a further bit of gossip about the entertainment director Sally Sagoe. According to her somewhat emotional morning broadcasts she had onlt been entertainment director for 6 weeks and ws not due to return following the Hamburg refit. I have no idea what the story is, but she was clearly upset at having to leave and how come she'd only been there for such a short period of time? My hunch is there's been some heap big trouble behind the scenes but Sally was professional throughout and the show went on.   
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: richc1977 on Dec 10, 2010, 08:57 PM
Can't be anything too significant:

Getaway Voyage

    * Ship : Queen Victoria
    * Embarkation Port : Southampton
    * Number of Days/Nights : 5 View Itinerary
    * Embarkation Date(s) :
    * 2010 - Dec 15

So must be cosmetic for now?
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 12, 2010, 04:30 PM
From Cunard's page on Facebook

11 December 2007 – On this day, Queen Victoria embarked on her Maiden voyage from Southampton, calling on Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Oslo, Hamburg and Zeebrugge. Share stories and memories from your Queen Victoria voyages!
http://www.facebook.com/cunard
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Jem on Dec 13, 2010, 04:11 AM
Does anyone know what is being done to Victoria on her refit?  I have read, generally, that carpets are being changed (refreshed) but will there be an substantive changes?  Does anyone know?
There is a blog about QV's refit here by her deputy captain....http://wearecunard.com/
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Jem on Dec 13, 2010, 11:58 AM
QV departing Hamburg this morning after her refit.......
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Dec 13, 2010, 08:17 PM
There is a blog about QV's refit here by her deputy captain....http://wearecunard.com/

Good account of the preparation for the refit. 
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Dec 14, 2010, 05:05 AM
Yes, but still I wonder what are they actually doing.  And what, if anything, has been learned/borrowed from QE?
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 14, 2010, 07:39 AM
Yes, but still I wonder what are they actually doing.  And what, if anything, has been learned/borrowed from QE?

Scott, I agree!
Apart from general spring cleaning, and doing the statutory assessments,
maybe some small adjustments that will mean changes on the technical side,
it's difficult to guess QV's secrets! :-\
Her hull was very 'mucky' with stuff from the sea last August
About QE - maybe she'll have learnt / borrowed things from QV!
I worry that the latter will be like a lost, forgotten relative -
many of her crew were transferring to QE,
hope she'll continue to get some proper PR ;)
We'll be sailing on her on Jan 5 - an 8 night TA with QE! :)
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: richc1977 on Dec 14, 2010, 07:00 PM
She wasn't in Hamburg for long.  Just having her bottom wiped and new carpets by the looks of the pictures of wearecunard.com.

Nothing on the main Cunard website, or Cunard's Facebook page.

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2010/12/victoria-comes-out-of-the-wate.html (http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2010/12/victoria-comes-out-of-the-wate.html)

Greybeard just reports a general spruce up of "worn areas".
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Jem on Dec 15, 2010, 02:30 AM
I see tonight she's in Amsterdam. I thought her next port of call after Hamburg was supposed to be Southampton? ???
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Alex Tarry on Dec 15, 2010, 06:29 AM
Today she leaves Soton and arrives in Amsterdam tomorrow lunchtime, which is what I am expecting as we are sailing on her...

Will let you know what changes we notice from our last trip on her a couple of years ago...

She'll be back in Soton on Monday morning...

Alex...
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Jem on Dec 15, 2010, 09:33 AM
Today she leaves Soton and arrives in Amsterdam tomorrow lunchtime, which is what I am expecting as we are sailing on her...

Will let you know what changes we notice from our last trip on her a couple of years ago...

She'll be back in Soton on Monday morning...

Alex...
Have a wonderful time Alex! Look forward to hearing how you got on. :)
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Alex Tarry on Dec 18, 2010, 12:04 PM
All is excellent aboard QV, she is looking great after her re-fresh and everything is totally immaculate...in fact I'd say more so than when we were last on board in May'08.  The new lady captain is doing great job...the transit through the lock into Amsterdam looked pretty tricky and the weather has been 'unusual'... The ship is deeply covered in snow!  This happened yesterday in Amsterdam, but when we arrived this morning in Zebrugge the captain announced she'd cancelled all the tours, as some returned 2 hours late yesterday, delaying our sailing.  They have started up the shuttle bus service into town, bur in the main we are all aboard, enjoying the ship...in our case the Cafe Carinthia at this time!

Enjoying Queen Victoria,

Alex...
 
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 18, 2010, 03:56 PM
Ahoy there, Alex!
Winter Greetings to you and Queen Victoria!
And if you are in the Commodore Club,
Denis (ex-QE2) might wish you a 'safe way home'!
As long as the snow doesn't get in the way,
we'll be looking for him on Jan 5!
Rosie
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Alex Tarry on Dec 18, 2010, 06:25 PM
Many thanks Rosie, I think you'll have a great time...there are many familiar names from QE2 aboard with references, pictures, films and memorabilia about her everywhere!

No tours tomorrow either...the steaming jacuzzis/deep snow combo has to be seen to be believed!

Alex...
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 22, 2010, 08:44 AM
'Cunard president Peter Shanks joked last week that giant wing mirrors had been fitted to the bridge of Queen Victoria, ready for Inger Olsen, the first woman captain in the company's history.'

Hmm - Mr Shanks
Did you really say this?

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2010/12/snowy-scenes-at-sea.html
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Dec 22, 2010, 10:12 AM
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2010/12/snowy-scenes-at-sea.html

The second picture looks like Antwerp to me -- not Amsterdam or Zeebrugge. But of course all these ports are big, and the ship may have landed in a part of it where I have not been. But I am still rather intrigued! Was it Antwerp ???

That viewing platform on the right-hand side of the picture, if in Antwerp, is a wonderful place, where passengers and visitors can see the ship from very close and take good pictures. Indeed, visitors can even talk across the divide with the passengers walking about on deck (or stuck in their balconies, presumably).
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 29, 2010, 08:18 PM
Isabelle
Somewhere on the Forum there's a lovely video that includes the people of Rotterdam (I think!) making their farewells to QE2
QE2 is parked immediately alongside them as they sang to her...It looks from the vid that they could almost touch hands across the space between them.


Returning to Queen Victoria and our TA that begins next week.
It's now not possible to pay any Cunard or P & O on board account with travelers' cheques - this information has come to our notice today, and then only by pure luck - or un-luck depending on the way you look at it!!
Heading off to exchange what otherwise are universally regarded as the safest way of carrying money!
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: cunardqueen on Dec 29, 2010, 09:33 PM
Quote
  It's now not possible to pay any Cunard or P & O on board account with travelers' cheques - this information has come to our notice today, and then only by pure luck - or un-luck depending on the way you look at it!!
 

How odd is that, With a bit of luck it might not be common knowledge among the onboard staff, its often the case lm sorry to say that onboard and shoreside are not always singing from the same page. What about those funny little money cards, then again do they have chip and pin onboard? Or perhaps they are leading the way and going to introduce the Cunard charge card?
 
 So now how on earth do you pay such accounts, l never was a big fan of credit cards, they dont take debit cards so are people expected to walk round with great big wads of cash and risk getting mugged enroute...  ???
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 12, 2011, 11:27 AM
I have just returned from a most enjoyable trip on the Queen Victoria cruising to the Adriatic visiting Cadiz, Katakalon, Corfu, Dubrovnik, Venice, Korcula, and Malaga.  I will write a bit more about the cruise next week.

However I thought you would be interested to know Captain Ian Hutley recently moved from P&O Cruises to Cunard as the captain of Queen Victoria.  Inger Klein Olsen, the first Cunard women captain, is the other captain.

At a very interesting "Ask the Captain Session" in the Royal Court Theatre, Captain Hutley said that some passengers joked that they were disappointed that Captain Inger Olsen was not onboard.  

I was also interested to learn that Ronald Keir, Queen Victoria's  Chief Engineer, is from Clydebank (fellow Bankie).  He had been involved in the manufacture of the QE2 turbines and gearboxes.  He also was staff Chief Engineer on QE2 in 2003.  
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Rob Lightbody on May 12, 2011, 07:44 PM
I'd love to know if Ronald remembers my Dad... someone's got to!
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on May 31, 2011, 09:28 AM
'RNLI rescue woman from cruise ship'
by John Honeywell

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/captain-greybeard/2011/05/rnli-rescue-woman-from-cruise.html

Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 31, 2011, 10:27 AM
Another example of the good work carried out by the RNLI.  But this would be a traumatic experience for the elderly couple. 

I read in the April edition of Sea Breezes that RNLI had rescued 8313 people last year off the coast of UK and Ireland.  Lifeboats were launched a total of 8713 times during last year. But that's a completely different topic.   
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jun 04, 2011, 06:39 PM
It's 'all change' amongst the Officers in the Cunarders, specially in QV.
Many of them speak about the transient nature of their time on each ship,
rotation being part of the new order of things.
This was written in March - several people may have moved by now
including the new Commodore, Captain Rynd
However, Captain Olsen is back :)
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/travelsmart/2011/06/03/meet-the-staff-and-crew-of-the-queen-victoria/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria general discussion
Post by: bobso on Jun 14, 2011, 08:28 PM
Link to an interesting topic between the QE2 and Queen Victoria.

http://www.cruise.co.uk/cruise-reviews/cunard-cruises/queen-victoria/read_review_29867/
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 12, 2011, 12:30 PM
Queen Victoria's bridge, one of her third officers and one of her anchors!
http://www.jaunted.com/story/2011/7/11/74130/9248/travel/This+is+the+Man+Who+Drops+the+12-Ton+Anchors+from+Cunard%27s+%27Queen+Victoria%27
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jul 22, 2011, 09:16 AM
A Mans world?
'Today’s guest blog comes from one of our engineers on board Queen Victoria, Sara Smith. At only 21 years old, Sara has embarked on a very interesting career in a predominantly male environment, here’s how she got there:...'

http://wearecunard.com/
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: cunardqueen on Jul 22, 2011, 05:20 PM
Quote
  It's 'all change' amongst the Officers in the Cunarders, specially in QV.
Many of them speak about the transient nature of their time on each ship,
rotation being part of the new order of things.
This was written in March - several people may have moved by now
including the new Commodore, Captain Rynd
However, Captain Olsen is back
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/travelsmart/2011/06/03/meet-the-staff-and-crew-of-the-queen-victoria/
   

Great news that Mr Nelder will be writing a book....when he retires
Put me down for a copy !!!
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jul 22, 2011, 06:06 PM
Great news that Mr Nelder will be writing a book....when he retires
Put me down for a copy !!!

And me!
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Nov 15, 2011, 07:09 PM
I was pleased to see this good review about Queen Victoria on Cruise.co.uk.  I have sailed on Queen Victoria about 5 times because I always feel very comfortable onboard the ship and I agree with what was said in this review

http://www.cruise.co.uk/cruise-reviews/cunard-cruises/queen-victoria/read_review_32428/?utm_source=151111&utm_medium=Bulletin&utm_campaign=Reviews
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 11, 2011, 02:06 PM
Queen Victoria
It looks as if she's enjoying her transit of the Panama Canal!
Thanks to Cunard for the webcam view
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Matteo 91 on Dec 13, 2011, 08:57 PM
Queen Victoria
It looks as if she's enjoying her transit of the Panama Canal!
Thanks to Cunard for the webcam view

 ;)

And Queen Elizabeth is crossing the south Atlantic from Southampton to Barbados!  :)
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jun 13, 2012, 10:04 AM
Queen Victoria is just entering the waters around Venice
The Bridge webcam is 'on'!
http://www.cunard.com/Ships/Queen-Victoria/Bridge-Web-Cam/
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jun 13, 2012, 10:23 AM
I wish I was onboard she is a lovely ship with a very friendly crew.  We sail to the Adriatic onboard Queen Victoria last year and I loved the sail in and out of Venice. 
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Jun 13, 2012, 06:13 PM
Lynda - Qv together with other cruise ships are Very unpopular now in Venice
There was a vociferous Demo as we passed St Mark's when we were there in April!
There were posters all over the city - Basta (enough!) - Say No to Cruise Ships!
Gondalas, vaporetti, red flares - anything that floated; many sailed pretty close to her bow
Captain Olsen, with her usual 'safe pair of hands' simply drove on.
Asked about it by another passenger later - she mentioned that the water displacement from any big ship could possibly have an environmental effect on the city's canals
There certainly seems to be a sense of ambivalence too, not only do tourists spend in Venice - many cruise ships have been built in the nearby Italian dockyards.

Doubtless Venice is in Peril - it's difficult to see why the port authority don't require the ships to anchor off and use tenders to bring visitors in to the city....
Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: skilly56 on Sep 11, 2012, 03:40 AM
Rosie,

Your comment about the 'transient lifestyle between ships' is usually very relevant to the happiness of the people on board. For the Carnival UK officers, having a duty roster of 3 months on/6 weeksoff (although I believe even that system may now have changed) often means your next duty cycle is on a different ship to the last one. This quite often results in general discontent with the job (unless you were getting away from people you didn't really get on with), having to re-learn where things hide on the next vessel, and new procedures (even though you my be theoretically going to a sister ship). Also, different ships have different problems (both mechanically and personnel-wise), and it can be very frustrating to find that what works well on one ship doesn't even function at all on another ship because of someone's beliefs (We don't do it like that here!)

My son left the QE last year (1st officer) and came to the Australian offshore industry to work. He trebled his salary, doubled his leave (now 4 weeks on/4 weeks off), and can now enjoy the time on board a lot more as his duty cycles are normally on the same ship, with the same crew, procedures are always the same, and so the crew become a well-knit and cohesive team. Swapping people out all the time and replacing them with new crew members is not conducive to creating a good team.

When on the QE last year I had numerous officers asking how they could get into the offshore industry - they were not happy where they were.

Unfortunately, as the swinging chief engineer between the three supposedly-identical ships on this same pipe-laying job as my son, I am now the one getting odd-ball duty and leave cycles (I had 9 days at home in 97 days at one stage, even though it is meant to be equal time on/time off).

Sounds like QV has pod problems if a dry-docking is required. Engine problems do not require dry docking unless the side of the engine room is to be cut out to replace a complete engine.
Skilly
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 14, 2013, 11:54 AM
For those who are interested in this superb ship...

(She's the closest I've known to recreating that special "feeling" that QE2 had - she's an exceptionally happy ship with a happy crew and the best ambiance, food and service of the three - IMO)... I digress.

Anyway our new soft cover QV book is out :)


Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Chris Frame on Jul 15, 2013, 03:42 PM
Here's a video of us flying over QV:



Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Chris Frame on Aug 09, 2013, 03:22 PM
And my blog about it:

http://wearecunard.com/2013/07/lecturing-aboard-queen-victorias-fjords-and-waterfalls-voyage/
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: tdickson on Oct 24, 2013, 09:04 PM
For those who are interested in this superb ship...

(She's the closest I've known to recreating that special "feeling" that QE2 had - she's an exceptionally happy ship with a happy crew and the best ambiance, food and service of the three - IMO)... I digress.

Anyway our new soft cover QV book is out :)

I have been working at Ocean Terminal (Southampton) today and noticed lots of familiar CUNARDER faces, together with lots of QE2 baggage straps/ QE2 Hand luggage / Lapel Pins etc.. So I decided to start asking embarking guests that had obviously been on board QE2, what it was they preferred about Queen Victoria over and above the other two current Queens and as per chris's above quote, they nearly all quoted the same 'She has that QE2 feeling about her'
Having unfortunately not personally been on board QE2, but have been on board QV four times and may I add, prefer to QE.

Why this QUEEN ??
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Oct 24, 2013, 10:18 PM
I have been working at Ocean Terminal (Southampton) today and noticed lots of familiar CUNARDER faces, together with lots of QE2 baggage straps/ QE2 Hand luggage / Lapel Pins etc.. So I decided to start asking embarking guests that had obviously been on board QE2, what it was they preferred about Queen Victoria over and above the other two current Queens and as per chris's above quote, they nearly all quoted the same 'She has that QE2 feeling about her'
Having unfortunately not personally been on board QE2, but have been on board QV four times and may I add, prefer to QE.

Why this QUEEN ??

I have just returned from a 24 night cruise on Queen Victoria today and sorry that I did not know that you were on duty today Trevor as it would have been lovely to meet up to a fellow QE2 Story Forum member.   :D

We have sailed onboard Queen Victoria eight times, QE2 five times and QM2 four times. 

Queen Victoria is not a liner like the QE2 but I have to agree that she does have that QE2 feeling about her.  Some of this is down to here size as she is easier to get around than QM2. There are a high number of ex QE2 staff onboard Queen Victoria and it is lovely to speak to these members of staff to hear their memories of the ship and how much they still love her and miss her. 

There is also a high proportion of ex QE2 passengers onboard the ship who expect the same quality of service as they had experienced onboard QE2. I have never been disappointed in the quality of service onboard Queen Victoria.  The Queen Victoria restaurant and cabin staff, many who were onboard QE2 are excellent and those who crew members who have never been onboard QE2 are being trained by ex QE2 staff so that the standards are being maintained.

The Queen Victoria is known as the "friendly ship" and I have to agree that there is a warm and friendly feel about the ship.  Like you trevor I do not know the reason why but Queen Victoria does have something special about her.  She is not a liner but she is a special ship. 

PS:  I was disappointed to hear yesterday that there are plans to change her angle stepped stern to make her the same as the Queen Elizabeth's vertical shaped stern.  In my opinion this is not a good decision by Cunard.   >:(

Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: highlander0108 on Oct 25, 2013, 05:09 PM
PS:  I was disappointed to hear yesterday that there are plans to change her angle stepped stern to make her the same as the Queen Elizabeth's vertical shaped stern.  In my opinion this is not a good decision by Cunard.   >:(

Where did you see or hear about this?  Makes sense from an operating perspective and many, myself included, speculated that this would eventually happen once we saw the QE profile.  QV's other sister, Acadia, is getting similar additions and renovations to her aft end.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Oct 25, 2013, 06:42 PM
Where did you see or hear about this?  Makes sense from an operating perspective and many, myself included, speculated that this would eventually happen once we saw the QE profile.  QV's other sister, Acadia, is getting similar additions and renovations to her aft end.

Ken I heard this from a fellow passenger onboard Queen Victoria.  I hope it is not true but he seemed pretty sure that the information was right. 
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: June Ingram on Oct 25, 2013, 07:08 PM
Where did you see or hear about this?  Makes sense from an operating perspective and many, myself included, speculated that this would eventually happen once we saw the QE profile.  QV's other sister, Acadia, is getting similar additions and renovations to her aft end.

How does it make sense from an operating perspective ?  Thanks !
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Oct 25, 2013, 07:11 PM
How does it make sense from an operating perspective ?  Thanks !

More cabins = more cash, I guess.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: June Ingram on Oct 25, 2013, 07:36 PM
More cabins = more cash, I guess.

That is most likely it...
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: andy liney on Oct 25, 2013, 08:16 PM
How does it make sense from an operating perspective ?  Thanks !

Sadly, Cunard think that the new Queen Elizabeth is beautiful, and would have no compunction about doing this modification ('upgrade' in their parlance!) from an aesthetic point of view. (They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose, but, having sailed on her, I thought she was the ugliest ship I'd thus far been on).
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: June Ingram on Oct 25, 2013, 08:34 PM
Sadly, Cunard think that the new Queen Elizabeth is beautiful, and would have no compunction about doing this modification ('upgrade' in their parlance!) from an aesthetic point of view. (They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose, but, having sailed on her, I thought she was the ugliest ship I'd thus far been on).
As we all know, true beauty is our QE2 !!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: CAP on Oct 25, 2013, 08:34 PM
Apparently there have been a number of complaints since the ship's introduction regarding the lack of privacy afforded to the penthouse and grill balconies below.  It is easy to understand the reasoning, especially on sunny days when the Lido deck is full.  I understand Queen Elizabeth's aft section was modified to counter the complaints.  The additional floor space created also helps revenue.


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Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Tom Kirrage on Oct 26, 2013, 05:03 PM
Hello there.

I thought I would add this photo that I took of the Victoria during the summer of 2013.
She came into Gibraltar on the 17th July. This was the weather that I had in the early early hours of the morning.

Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Oct 26, 2013, 09:58 PM
Beautifully caught, Tom!

I don't like the looks of this ship, but the way you caught her makes her look her best I am quite sure. Lovely light of dawn...
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: tdickson on Oct 26, 2013, 10:34 PM
I have also heard that when QV goes for her next re-fit, no fixed date as yet as far as I know, she will re -enter service looking far too similar to QE (3) her profile is not good, with that awful covered sports deck & long aft 'Sailaway' Deck , which makes for additional staterooms below. QE 2068 guests/1005 crew, QV 1990 guests/981 crew. As already mentioned more staterooms means more revenue, but this will spoil the exterior look of the ship (Incidently my better half never wanted to cruise on board the Oceana as she says 'Is an ugly ship to look at, but a great atmosphere once onboard so do not judge a book by it's cover) There are nearly 100 changes from QV too QE most of which are better, too mention a few, ie: Staircase into the Britannia Restaurant, additional access to the Queens Room and the walk over, over and above the Winter Garden. This still does not make her look better and with NO happy atmosphere. We love Cunard but will continue to be QM2/QVic lovers & not so much QE   
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Chris Frame on Oct 27, 2013, 08:11 AM
That story about QV's decks being altered has been doing the rounds since QE came into service.


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Title: Re: Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on May 25, 2014, 09:26 PM
We sailed on QV in December 08 in the Med & had some roughish weather and were delayed at Civitavecchia due to a beam gale keeping us pressed against the quayside.....

....I think extending the deck round to make a circuit would be a great improvement.

Hi Bruce
QM2 nearly didn't make her call at Civittavecchia in 2011, so strong was the wind on her beam - there's something about that port, we also sailed in on board QV, again it was pretty breezy!

You'll be pleased to know that Q.Victoria now has access for passengers 'promenading' all round on Deck 3 - there's a tunnel across, just aft of the bow mooring deck.
It seems she got the idea from QE - and it's quite an  'interesting' experience to try and make a traverse  in a F6-7 (specially when the wind got up and open decks closed during the time when a certain passenger was sound asleep beneath Tender 4)
Rosie.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Bruce Nicholls on May 25, 2014, 09:47 PM
Hi Rosie, sounds interesting. Could be tempted on board Qv again so will look out for this.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 15, 2017, 09:23 AM
Icky Vicky (Queen Victoria that entered service in late 2007).

Hi Guys,- referring to the previous posts on QE2 Deck Plans topic.
just FYI, Queen Victoria is a very good ship indeed.
Her crew are happy - many from both QE2 as well as QM2.
The service is superb and the ship works extremely well.
Having experienced her in just about every sea condition possible
(even when she was required to heave to), she comes highly recommended.
Having been bought up with Liners and other merchant, as well as RN ships
I have to apologise for disagreeing with you, "Icky Vicky" she is definitely not!
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Nov 15, 2017, 09:37 AM
Hi Guys,- just FYI, Queen Victoria is a very good ship indeed.
Her crew are happy - many from both QE2 as well as QM2.
The service is superb and the ship works extremely well.
Having experienced her in just about every sea condition possible
(even when she was required to heave to), she comes highly recommended.
Having been bought up with Liners and other merchant, as well as RN ships
I have to apologise for disagreeing with you, "Icky Vicky" she is definitely not!

It's more in jest, as someone I know calls her that - as well as a "bookend". I have been aware that a lot of her crew moved from QE2 for years now.

However she is just a cruise ship sometimes pretending to be an ocean liner (her first tandem with QE2 in January 2008 comes to mind - my Dad was on QE2 at the time and took plenty of photos I'll upload to Flickr sometime and share here to illustrate the point). Cunard (Carnival) desperately wanted us to think she was a true Cunarder and ocean liner until not to long ago through their marketing and some have taken it hook, line, and sinker. She's a sheep in wolves' clothing (to flip the original saying).

She cracked very badly (I know all ships crack somewhat and have to flex - even QE2) on this first tandem, the crack being most significant in the laundry on one of the decks. QE did likewise when the seniors at Cunard decided (in their great wisdom - do they learn? - senior officials at corporates seems to share never learning from the past with our politician's but that's off topic) to send her into a storm on her first transatlantic in the Winter of all times. There is dramatic video of QE trying to deal with the storm on this first crossing on YouTube. This cracking (due to being severe) has no doubt affected their lifespans - economic after all??

That's before thinking about the sewage flowing in the passenger areas on the 2008 tandem as the sewage system couldn't cope with the weather. A family friend stated this and he's not one to complain - in fact he sugar coats everything when cruising. The strong smell of sewage appears to be a problem in some parts of the ship as we speak, according to someone I know who just got off a cruise on her earlier this week. Not to mention the occasional strong smell of fuel in places too, including on the open decks.

Also a relative of mine has been an architect for decades and said the quality of her interior finish is poor (shoddy), he still likes her regardless - having travelled on her a few times.

I suppose QV and QE fulfil Cunard's requirements for now but are not particularly remarkable or unique ships as Cunard have a history of operating. An example of Cunard's increasing genericism under Carnival but that's for another topic.

I think they're okay but only as cruise ships milling about and not making Atlantic crossings in bad weather.

My two pence (instead of cents  ;) ).

Thomas

PS. Anyway sorry for going off topic, maybe Mods can make a new topic or merge accordingly.
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Nov 15, 2017, 09:53 AM
Hi Guys,- referring to the previous posts on QE2 Deck Plans topic.
just FYI, Queen Victoria is a very good ship indeed.
Her crew are happy - many from both QE2 as well as QM2.
The service is superb and the ship works extremely well.
Having experienced her in just about every sea condition possible
(even when she was required to heave to), she comes highly recommended.
Having been bought up with Liners and other merchant, as well as RN ships
I have to apologise for disagreeing with you, "Icky Vicky" she is definitely not!

I agree entirely with your comments Rosie.  I like the ship, the crew are very friendly and I have found the atmosphere on the Queen Victoria to be very like that of QE2 - warm and welcoming.  She copes with rough seas very well.

 
Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: QE2forever on Nov 15, 2017, 12:27 PM
I suppose QV and QE fulfil Cunard's requirements for now but are not particularly remarkable or unique ships as Cunard have a history of operating. An example of Cunard's increasing genericism under Carnival but that's for another topic.

I think they're okay but only as cruise ships milling about and not making Atlantic crossings in bad weather.

After having crossed + cruised on QE2, and same on QM2, I would tend to agree with you, Thomas.

I was unimpressed with the Queen Victoria compared to the two above-mentioned, to the point I will probably not repeat on her.

IMHO she's nothing unique, just average with a coat of Cunard decorum. The lack of teak decking, for instance, is nothing like an ocean liner.

And, my gosh, is she ugly… sorry about that, but still not used to her Vista look 10 years after...
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 15, 2017, 03:33 PM
Hi M-A B,
Your thoughts are interesting!
Yes - her lack of Teak, (except in the Grills area) is very disappointing - however, I'd still rather have her around than not!

The Good Thing about Queen Victoria is that she doesn't 'masquerade as anything special'.
No airs, no graces, no pretensions  (to be beautiful) - and certainly, no arrogance!
In this respect, she's more like both QE2 - And HM QEll

As recently as August, in several areas she was definitely smarter (Britannia Club) than before her refit. The newly transformed Chart Room is every bit as good as The Carinthia on board QM2 - particularly without those beastly room dividers, and over-crowded seating arrangements!  The saddest thing is the 'demolition of her 'Heritage Collection - this Is a Complete travesty!
Rosie

Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: QE2forever on Nov 15, 2017, 03:54 PM
The saddest thing is the 'demolition of her 'Heritage Collection - this Is a Complete travesty!
Rosie

Hi Rosie,

I agree on this! Seems like someone upstairs has decided to throw away all references to the past, but very honestly, what is the brand Cunard nowadays without its heritage?
Title: Re: Queen Victoria - General Discussion
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Nov 16, 2017, 01:20 PM
Only sailed on her once and I liked her - as you say Rosie - not trying to be anything other than what she is!
To my mind she certainly isn't masquerading as an Ocean Liner - OK there are areas which are beefed up which her Vista variant cousins don't have but other than that she is a Vista class cruise ship.

We had a great time - the Commodore Club in QV is superior to that of QM2 - mostly to do with that amazing panoramic view over the bow and the amazing crew who worked in there at the time.

I was saddened when I saw the "remastered" version of her with the "does my bum look big in these" additional cabins on the after end (a la QE) - she looked better with the semi raked stern I think.

To that end - here is one of her alongside at Gibraltar during our Med cruise in 2010 and the Commodore Club - the crew member in centre shot was ex-QE2 but I cannot recall his name - he used to know where our group liked to sit and had the seats arranged and the wine ready every night without fail! Needless to say he received an extremely handsome tip at the end of the cruise!

Gav

Title: Re: Queen Victoria
Post by: Andy Holloway on Nov 16, 2017, 04:01 PM
Rosie

It will be QV's third transit of the Canal; her maiden being in Januray 2008.

At which time i was 'serving my penance' away from Cunard onboard Coral Princess. Our itinerary was what  was  known as  'half transits' of The Panama canal, or in other words enter via Gatun Locks, anchor for 3 or 4 hours to disembark passengers for their day long tours, then exit and go alongside at Cristobal where the tours returned around 1900.

Anyway, on this particular day following us through the Gatun Locks was QV, so being an old 'QV' rating i proceeded to the highest deck and took a series of photographs of QV actually passing through the locks, the first ones ever! Knowing Captain Paul Wright well i sent them to him and he in turn sent them onto Cunard. In his email back to me he told me that the ships photographers had paid a fairly large sum of money to The Panama Canal Commission and the ship's agent to be landed at Gatun, take photos of the ship going through the locks and then drive down the canal finally rejoining in Mira Flores.  Later that day Capt Wright emailed me again to 'warn me' to 'sleep with one eye open' as the phots were not happy that i'd taken phots of QV, and that Capt Wright had sent them on to Cunard, well ahead of theirs. Ah well as they say, the early bird........