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Title: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: highlander0108 on Feb 28, 2009, 03:46 AM
Here is a link to the accident report on the August 7, 1992 grounding off Cuttyhunk Island, which is off Martha's Vinyard, Massachusetts.

http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources/queen_elizabeth_2_pub_1993.pdf (http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources/queen_elizabeth_2_pub_1993.pdf)

I remember event this vividly. QE2 made all the news here and although the amount of damage was downplayed, the inevitable comparisions were made to Titanic.  This incedent made QE2 famous, like she needed more notoriety, for illustrating a not widely understood phenomima called suction, where the hydrodynamic properties of the hull running at speed in shallow waters actually pulls the hull towards the bottom.  The amount of "squat" or suction that a large ship creates was not commonly known outside of theoretical engineering circles.  QE2 rather dramatically illustrated this effect.  In defense of the Captain and pilot, the charts had the depth wrong as well.

Michael Gallacher give more details about the Martha's Vineyard Grounding in the "Hull Patches -what was each one from" topic  (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,7926.msg89943.html#msg89943)
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: pete cain on Mar 01, 2009, 05:31 PM
Hi Ken, most interesting reading ,I've seen similar reports but this is obviously the full report, I've searched high & low for dockyrd photos of the damage but havn't seen any; were there ever any & if so were they all secreted away???? pete cain
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: highlander0108 on Mar 01, 2009, 07:02 PM
I'd like to see some good photos as well.  Perhaps someone in the shipyard took some and in time will come forward with them.  Of course, you can bet it was fully documented by Cunard.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: KEV on Mar 15, 2009, 12:00 AM
What a fascinating report. Obviously a very serious and expensive incident,fortunately with no injuries. It highlighted to me though just what skilled work goes on behind the cossetted world of us passengers
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Mar 16, 2009, 07:26 PM
I have some news reports about this in my scrapbooks that were sent me by an American penfriend at the time, and I suspect she did a lot more damage to herself than merely a scratch on her bottom.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Apr 13, 2009, 04:31 PM
I was onboard when it happened in  August 1992.We had just sailed from Marthas Vineyard it was evening was a PRS then working in the old Midships bar when it struck. I think i have pics somewhere as soon as i find it ill post some

Cheers Louis
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: KEV on Apr 13, 2009, 05:42 PM
Louis-you are already proving a great eyewitness man on the spot to some of the things that little is published about-nice one!
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Andy F on Apr 13, 2009, 06:59 PM
Agree with Kev there Louis and always interesting to hear things from a crew perspective.   
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Apr 13, 2009, 08:18 PM
Heres the QE2 in Boston drydock.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Stowaway2k on Apr 14, 2009, 04:24 AM
An awesome photo.

Doing a google news search,  there was a lot of press coverage of this incident.  Sadly, all these news agencies have a pay-per-view on their archives.   It would make facinating reading.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Andrew Collier on Apr 14, 2009, 12:20 PM
Hi Everybody,

The best report of this incident, and the damage it caused, that I have seen, illustrated with a couple of rather average B&W photos showing the damage, is to be found in the later version (2002) of David F. Hutchings 'QE2 A Ship for All Seasons'

An excellent book, many many facts about the ship and its career, and easy to find things in as well. I like the early version (of which there is more than one) so much I bought the updated version to go with it when it came out.

Anyone wanting it should have no trouble finding it through amazon or elsewhere nice and cheap as it is out of print but not rare.

Cheers  8)

Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 26, 2009, 04:27 PM
Found this image on the Maritime Traffic website here: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=232089000#top_photo (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=232089000#top_photo)

Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Andrew Collier on Apr 27, 2009, 10:42 AM
Excellent set of photos, thanks for sharing, scroll through to number 21 for the Boston Dry Dock one.... Cheers!
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Andy F on Apr 27, 2009, 08:13 PM
Agree Andy, an excellent collection indeed.  Great to see some of Chris' shots included and enjoyed seeing the ones taken in Piraeus last year as was aboard at the time.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: KEV on Apr 29, 2009, 08:25 PM
great collection
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: pete cain on Jan 28, 2010, 03:07 PM
Shame this information wasn't around at the time   http://www.pilotmag.co.uk/2008/02/01/squat-part-1/http://, QE2 is referred to....
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Cunarder Man on Jan 29, 2010, 08:24 PM
Crew wearing a T-shirt illustrating 'QE2 on the Rocks'.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Apr 04, 2010, 01:33 PM
Oh I really took the hump with Cunard over this one as we were booked on the cruises after it.....needless to say we didnt sail so spent the 6 weeks already planned for the holiday entirely in the USA .! Shopped for Scotland and had too much luggage to trail back.....thankfully BA upgraded us to first class....but it was hardly the same as a trip on the Qe2....
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: cunardqueen on May 17, 2010, 01:59 PM
A newspaper report
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3236/img135k.jpg)
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: cunardqueen on May 17, 2010, 02:03 PM
and another..from the Boston Herald
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9638/img137g.jpg)
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Louis De Sousa on May 24, 2010, 06:52 PM
Just loaded a few pics in Flickr check it out, more to follow soon lol

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ex-crewmember/sets/72157624000645225/detail/

PS - a detailed story will follow soon too on my blog "QE2 -My Home" in the next few days.

Louis
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: CasinoChris on Jul 22, 2010, 03:41 AM
Hey there folks,
I was working on the Vistafjord at the time, we were returning to the ship as it had been used as accommodation for Time magazine during the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. Coming thru Heathrow airport we see a newspaper headline....QE2 Holed!
See the pic below.
A QE2 crewmember who transferred to the Vista shortly afterwards told us a few tales about the grounding.
Apparently she and a few others were having a cabin party when the ship hit...someone asked "what was that" a reply came "a strawberry flavored jellyfish"! Apparently when a lot of the crew were disembarking in Boston under strict instructions not to talk to the press, someone yelled "What did you hit"....reply "A strawberry Flavor Jellyfish!!!!
Good old QE2 crew humor.
Cheers
CasinoChris
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 24, 2011, 11:56 AM
Following is another photo of the ship in Dry Dock

Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Bob C. on Jan 24, 2011, 02:42 PM
Are there any public pictures of the actual damage?  Would love to see them if so.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on May 17, 2011, 10:38 AM
Here is a new, somewhat facetious, article about the grounding :

http://marthasvineyard.patch.com/articles/the-qe2-takes-a-squat
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: cunardqueen on May 17, 2011, 07:43 PM
what a most refreshing report...
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on May 18, 2011, 05:54 PM
Crew t-shirt

QE2 on the rocks 1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ex-crewmember/5732258063/) by Blue Bombay (https://www.flickr.com/people/ex-crewmember/), on Flickr

A cheeky take on this near disastrous story!

I wonder whether this too came from the bowels of Six Deck... and who produced the design? QE2 must have had excellent printers if they could work on textiles as well as paper...
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Jeff Taylor on May 18, 2011, 06:04 PM
Totally OT, but Cuttyhunk Island has some of the best striped bass fishing around--used to go there every year with a bunch of guys and jig with wire line for the bass.  At that time the keeper size was 36", so a lot of them had to get thrown back, but great fighters.  Apart from that the only thing to do on Cuttyhunk was drink.  One other piece of trivia, the island was a military installation during WWII, and still uses the government's original diesel gen set for power.   By this time it could probably use one of QE2"s MAN's for a replacement.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 24, 2012, 03:52 PM
Article here from the Boston Globe -- QE2 passengers remembering the Martha's Vineyard grounding after the Costa Concordia tragedy :

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-18/metro/30636382_1_passengers-qe2-ship
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Matteo 91 on Jan 24, 2012, 05:28 PM
An interesting reading, I didn't know of this event.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 24, 2012, 05:31 PM
Quote
An interesting reading, I didn't know of this event.


I was onboard for this one and after leaving Boston i had no pay and no job so i joined another ship but thats another story.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 24, 2012, 05:55 PM
Article here from the Boston Globe -- QE2 passengers remembering the Martha's Vineyard grounding after the Costa Concordia tragedy :

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-18/metro/30636382_1_passengers-qe2-ship


An interesting link Isabelle,
However, someone very closely involved with QE2 and Martha's Vineyard grounding knows much about squat.
When I asked him last week (and it was early days then after the incident involving Costa Concordia),
he told me then that he very much doubted if the Costa Concordia incident was due to squat...
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 24, 2012, 06:39 PM
A very kind person a while back sent me one of the crew tshirts as shown above!

The QE2 grounding is used as a text-book example of the effects of Squat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squat_effect
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 24, 2012, 06:42 PM
Article here from the Boston Globe -- QE2 passengers remembering the Martha's Vineyard grounding after the Costa Concordia tragedy :

http://articles.boston.com/2012-01-18/metro/30636382_1_passengers-qe2-ship

The reporter for this article contacted me, seeking to speak to Captain Woodall.  I forwarded her details to Richard Woodall, but she ran the story before anyone got a chance to respond.  I was keen to say that she had possibly missed the point of the story - and that QE2 was quite a different type of ship - and perhaps the story was WHY had QE2's passengers been able to continue to party the night away, even though far below them the ship was badly damaged...
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
Interesting to note (again) what Captain Woodhall wrote here
https://www.theqe2story.com/features/RobinWoodall.html

Like Martha's Vineyard, the grounding on the Brambles, the scary fire in QE2's engine room etc, and perhaps the outage on board QM2 off Barcelona - it must be difficult and painful for anyone in a position of responsibility to recall what must have been experienced as truly shocking at the time.  Wishing now that the press and media were more sensitive, as well as less greedy!
Rosie.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Bob C. on Jan 25, 2012, 06:50 PM
There's been lots of coverage of the Concordia incident but being at the cusp of wide proliferation of the internet in 1992 there was not much outside newsprint and radio/TV.  Have there since been any photos of the damage posted anywhere?
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 25, 2012, 10:24 PM
I'm sure I saw some photos of the damage to the underside of the hull on this forum a few months ago.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: highlander0108 on Aug 27, 2012, 04:12 AM
This article sheds interesting light on the incident that happened 20 years ago this summer, right in my backyard.  I remember this event vividly.

http://www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id1093-Grounding_of_the_Queen_Elizabeth__response.html

Here is the first installment:

http://www.hydro-international.com/issues/articles/id1071-Grounding_of_the_Queen_Elizabeth.html

Interesting comments about Cunard suing NOAA and losing.  Even more interesting is the timeline with the course correction noted and the speed.  One piece of information I have never heard before discussed is the data of the near grounding preceeding this event.  Given the shallow depths, did QE2 ever enter these waters again?
Title: unusual QE2 artifacts? I have a few?
Post by: Howie on Jan 08, 2013, 03:02 PM
When the QE2 ran aground in 1992 in Marthers Vineyard the props were damaged & parts were sent away to be examined.. when they were returned to the ship, the Tech stores manager gave some pieces away for paper weights & I have a couple of bits, you can see where they where ripped apart.... 

I am thinking about gettings these cut up & put on plaques with the date etc, I have now noticed on the round boss part there are some stamped numbers, 2543-7-6, mean any thing to any one?
Title: Re: unusual QE2 artifacts? I have a few?
Post by: Alan.C. on Jan 16, 2013, 02:09 PM
Very interesting, I guess not many people can say they have a piece of the QE2's propeller in their house!
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vinyard Grounding
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Sep 03, 2013, 11:15 PM
I don't think this has been posted before... A really excellent write up by beyond ships website.

http://www.beyondships2.com/qe2-marthas-vineyard.html
Title: Re: unusual QE2 artifacts? I have a few?
Post by: Louis Betti on Oct 23, 2013, 02:17 AM
Not many people can say they were aboard the ship when she hit the un-charted rock, but I can!  ;D
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Nov 11, 2013, 11:02 PM
Not many people can say they were aboard the ship when she hit the un-charted rock, but I can!  ;D

Do tell us about it, Louis -- it must have been a day to remember!
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Cunarder Man on Aug 07, 2016, 11:06 AM
24 Years ago today.
(This picture of the crew T-shirt already posted 2010)
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Aug 07, 2016, 11:23 AM
I was onboard
 :D
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: cunardqueen on Aug 07, 2016, 04:10 PM
Caught between a rock and a hard place.....
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: pete cain on Oct 07, 2016, 05:09 PM
 Been ferreting around. Here's a nice link telling how they ever so carefully looked after her - to get her in dock    http://www.csmonitor.com/1992/0814/14032.html
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Oct 09, 2016, 12:33 PM
Been ferreting around. Here's a nice link telling how they ever so carefully looked after her - to get her in dock    http://www.csmonitor.com/1992/0814/14032.html

Fantastic, I'd never read that before, thanks.
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Feb 16, 2017, 09:07 PM
A few photos from the damage thanks to Jon Edmonds
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: cunardqueen on Mar 13, 2017, 02:38 PM
The Newspaper reports The Boston Herald
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 21, 2018, 03:21 PM
Short clip here of coverage of her arriving home in Southampton afterwards.

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/815084250

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/license/815082072
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Mar 21, 2018, 04:19 PM
An elegant QE2 gliding into port.

Also enjoyed reading once again the report about the ship undergoing repairs in Boston.  There is so much information about QE2 on the forum - an amazing resource. 

 
Been ferreting around. Here's a nice link telling how they ever so carefully looked after her - to get her in dock    http://www.csmonitor.com/1992/0814/14032.html
Title: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: Howie on Aug 16, 2018, 10:55 AM
On August 7th 1992 the QE2 struck an obstruction while travelling at 24 knots, after the blades were removed in dry dock parts of the blades were chopped up to see what caused them to tear apart. I have a couple of pieces of these blades, they were given to me by the Technical stores manager at the time as paper weights.... one piece has numbers stamped on it ...2543-7-6 .... just thought i would post one of my more unusual artifacts...whats yours?
Title: Re: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: Bruce Nicholls on Aug 17, 2018, 09:55 AM
What is the round part with the numbers and what is it made of? It looks very like a bolt on zinc anode to me.

Interesting souvenirs.
Title: Re: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: Howie on Aug 17, 2018, 11:45 AM
havent a clue, i always assumed it was from part of the prop, i do not thin it is zinc , looks like phosphor bronze alloy...
Title: Re: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Aug 17, 2018, 04:03 PM
Did QE2 have to have a replacement set of propellers fitted or were they repaired given the severe sounding damage to them? If so the July 1988 date for distance travelled in the other topic could be wrong?
Title: Re: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Aug 17, 2018, 05:16 PM
I don't think the propellers were damaged at all.

Damage was largely confined to the forward half of the vessel and was concentrated in the areas of the keel and associated bottom plating. Ingress of water to the vessel was contained within deep and double-bottom tanks and caused no adverse effect on stability.

The Damage

•   A sounding pipe for No 1 Saltwater Double-Bottom Ballast Tank was found to be fractured within the Forward Tunnel space of the Engine Room and water was gushing into the forward Tunnel space. A tapered, damage control wooden plug was forced into the pipe to arrest the flow before the floodwater in the tank could be pumped out.

•   The previously empty No 10 fuel oil overflow tank in the double bottom had also filled and an officer was sent aft to see whether any traces of residue oil were contaminating the ship’s wake. The discovered seepage was reported to the US Coast Guard when a further report was made, the initial report being made 40 minutes after the grounding.

•   No 15 freshwater double-bottom tank, which had previously been empty, was full of saltwater and pressurised.

•   A cofferdam (between Nos 13, 14 and 15 freshwater double bottom tanks – the latter two later found to be contaminated with seawater – and Nos 8, 9 and 10 fuel oil tanks) was also found to be full.

•   No 14 freshwater double-bottom tank was not pressurised and contained seawater.

•   The tank top at the bottom of No 3 Hold was discovered to be buckled, possibly from the pressure of the air being compressed by the ingress of water and a damage control team was sent to wedge sturdy wooden shoring between the deck and deckhead in an attempt to prevent any likelihood of the tank-top rupturing under the tremendous pressure with a subsequent flooding of the compartment above.

•   The Forward Engine Room void space was making water.

The degree of damage to the shell plating ranged from an intermittent longitudinal rupture in way of the keel strake to general plate indentation and surface scaring.

Internal damage was sustained to associated frames and longitudinals located below the level of the double-bottom tank top.

It was only after QE2 had been placed in the dry dock that the true extent of the damage to the underwater hull became known. In all the damage covered a width of 80 feet over the keel and either side of it and extended over a length of 400 feet aft from the bulbous bow. The keel was covered in indents – some up to 240 feet in length and 14 inches deep – gouges and fractures, some of the latter being from 10 to 70 feet long and a 32 foot length and plates were buckled in place. In total 20 double-bottom tanks had sustained damaged to some extent and the port bilge keel had been severely damaged.
Title: Re: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 18, 2018, 01:40 PM
This is a really interesting account regarding the grounding - thank you, Michael.

(Mods - there is more on the topic here too)
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php?topic=217.msg2134#msg2134
Title: Re: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: June Ingram on Aug 19, 2018, 03:25 AM
Thank you very much, Michael, for this detailed information. There was indeed a lot of damage done.
Title: Re: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: skilly56 on Aug 19, 2018, 09:38 PM
To enable propeller blades to be disassembled from the hub they usually have a hole in the blade surface for the lifting bracket to be bolted through. The circular piece in the photo looks like it could be one half of the bolt-in plug that fills the lifting hole in the blade surface.

Checking into the old Queen Mary tomorrow in Long Beach. She probably doesn't smoke like the current one! 8)

Skilly
Title: Re: QE2 on the rocks, parts of prop blades
Post by: Howie on Aug 21, 2018, 09:35 AM
no damage to prop blades?  I remember  that we had a spare set of blades at the warehouse & the frames that the blades were housed in had to be un welded as there was always a worry of the blades being stolen so the frames were welded together, then these blades were air freighted to the USA if I can recall correctly or somewhere ?. Cunard always were good up covering up the whole story, just like when the helicopter crashed in to top deck after it was delivering newspapers to the ship & had to be craned of in Southampton...
maybe I am wrong & it might of been another occurrence, but one thing I am sure of these were off the QE2 & were damaged in an accident.
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: pete cain on Feb 04, 2019, 03:58 PM
https://owlcation.com/humanities/QE2
  midway down this article interesting  photo of QE2 I've never seen before with oil boom surrounding. havn't read any of it yet, so cannot comment.
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Rod on Feb 04, 2019, 06:52 PM
One of the reasons I hate reading articles about QE2 are the innaccuracies contained within them. That article was no exception. I am not going to list them, but suffice to say there are a few places where they are "economical with the truth" to make the article more readable? more sellable? I don't know. I have known this for some time, basically since I read an article about the ships boiler problems in Bermuda. One article I read made it hard to believe they were talking about QE2! So I tend to take all news stories with a grain of salt. As Bob Dolley used to say...."Believe half of what you see, and, nothing of what you read!"
Also something in the article led me to Robs pics on Flikr....same story for me there, scared to open and read because of what I might see.
Rob, no disrespect intended, the pics were great.
BUT, having left the ship Christmas '88 many places, to me at least were unrecognizable! And that in itself makes me kinda sad.
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: pete cain on Feb 04, 2019, 08:41 PM
Rod
 thanks for putting the record straight, it was the photo that got my attention having never seen it before.
I don't do Flikr 'n'all that stuff, but am glad you do & referred to it, it's only correct & proper that Rob should get the public record- that isn't mentioned in the item.
Title: Grounding of QE2 7 August 1992
Post by: Laurence Macdonald on Jun 17, 2019, 11:35 PM
Anyone on board for that incident?
Title: Re: Grounding of QE2 August 8 1992
Post by: Laurence Macdonald on Jun 17, 2019, 11:37 PM
My wife and I were on board when this event happened. Only 70 miles from our home. We were on Canada/New England Cruyise when this happened.
Title: Re: Grounding of QE2 7 August 1992
Post by: CasinoChris on Jun 18, 2019, 12:10 AM
On the way to join the Vistafjord I saw the Daily Mail front page travelling through Heathrow.....
Title: Re: Grounding of QE2 7 August 1992
Post by: Andy Holloway on Jun 18, 2019, 09:57 AM
On the way to join the Vistafjord I saw the Daily Mail front page travelling through Heathrow.....

Dear old Vista;  were you London Casinos?
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: CasinoChris on Jun 18, 2019, 11:48 AM
Hi Andy, yes I was with London Clubs Ltd......
Title: Re: 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jun 18, 2019, 01:19 PM
I was onboard
 :D

Louis, what was it like at the time? What were you doing, and how soon did you realise this was serious?
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Laurence Macdonald on May 27, 2020, 12:47 AM
My wife Janet and I were on board the QE2 when the grounding took place. Cabin 4073 right over where the damage was done to the hull. At the time we lived in Newton MA, about 70 miles from where we grounded. Quite an experience. We still have a copy of the US Coast Guard and NTSB report. This did not dissuade us from sailing QE2. We went on to sail 18 Cruise on QE2, 5 Crossings on QE2, including the Tandem Crossing with QM2 in April 2004, we returned on QM2. The last voyage of QE2 as Flagship and The first voyage of QM2 as Flagship. We have since crossed on QM2 7 more times. Due to COVID-19, this years trip was cancelled, we have 2 crossings booked for 2021. Out first voyage on QE2 was in 1985. Our first crossing was in 1990. QE2 was family. I am now in my 80s. my wife is in her late 70s. Next year could well be our last crossings. We much prefer the crossings over cruises. Cunard has treated us very well over years. We have many many friends, passengers, officers, and crew. Thank you Cunard!
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on May 27, 2020, 08:32 AM
Thank you, Laurence, for sharing your experience of the grounding with us! That must have been quite an adventure. What did it feel like in your cabin? At least you did not have far to go in order to get home :) .
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Lynda Bradford on May 27, 2020, 09:35 AM
Good to know that the grounding did not discourage you from sailing on QE2 and continuing to sail with Cunard.  I agree that Cunard generally treat you well and hope it is not too long until we are cruising again.

It would be good to hear more of your memories of the grounding experience.  Were you moved to another cabin?
Title: Re: QE2's 1992 Martha's Vineyard Grounding
Post by: Andy Holloway on May 27, 2020, 05:07 PM
My wife Janet and I were on board the QE2 when the grounding took place. Cabin 4073 right over where the damage was done to the hull. At the time we lived in Newton MA, about 70 miles from where we grounded. Quite an experience. We still have a copy of the US Coast Guard and NTSB report. This did not dissuade us from sailing QE2. We went on to sail 18 Cruise on QE2, 5 Crossings on QE2, including the Tandem Crossing with QM2 in April 2004, we returned on QM2. The last voyage of QE2 as Flagship and The first voyage of QM2 as Flagship. We have since crossed on QM2 7 more times. Due to COVID-19, this years trip was cancelled, we have 2 crossings booked for 2021. Out first voyage on QE2 was in 1985. Our first crossing was in 1990. QE2 was family. I am now in my 80s. my wife is in her late 70s. Next year could well be our last crossings. We much prefer the crossings over cruises. Cunard has treated us very well over years. We have many many friends, passengers, officers, and crew. Thank you Cunard!
It sounds like we could have been on a couple of cruises together over the years, all be it not necessarily 'dining' in the same restaurant! Well unless i was hosting table of course.
I was that 'grumpy' Security Officer who wouldn't let you disembark in NY until US Authorities said so, despite most passengers being close 'friends' of every Congressman & Senator, and their sons being Lawyers!