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Title: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 26, 2009, 03:07 PM
Thought that as QM2 has a section about her Funnel we definitely need one for The QE2's great funnel - and I've added the Whistle too, as I am finding it difficult to believe we may not ever hear this in real life - ever again...
BTW Thank you Rob for relaying the Whistle to the Crystal Bar!

'Fraid I can't separate the photo from the other clutter on this link!
(& hope that I won't get into trouble for not putting pic in the Gallery...)


http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2983239860063228069rJGOZM
Title: Was QE2's whistle steam?
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 06, 2009, 06:27 PM
Can someone tell me - for definite with references - whether QE2's whistle was steam, and if so was it always steam?

I think the answer is yes, and yes, but would like to be able to say it for absolute definite.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Andrew Collier on Mar 06, 2009, 07:07 PM
Rob, I believe otherwise, never seen a picture of steam, comming out the whistles.

The only reference I can find to back me up so far is 'From the Bridge - QE2 Cunards Flagship' by Peter Moxom, Malcolm Finister & Allen Burnley which just happened to be to hand, on page 57 there is a photo of the mast and the description underneath describes the items on the mast, it reads: ''The Mainmast, showing from bottom to top: the DF areial loops, the 3cm radar scanner, the 10cm radar scanner and the electric and air-controlled whistle horns.''

Page 32 of the same book refers to one of the whistles as a 'Tyfon Air Whistle' and refers to the Master asking permission of the Harbour Pilot to sound it three blasts upon departure from Southampton.

Haven't time now, but later will research further, many other books to go! Look forward to hearing what others find!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 06, 2009, 07:52 PM
This is what was written in the QE2 Daily Programme on 14 September 2008 -- and is quoted with a sound sample here (and on the following video too) :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/2943190804/

Typhon Whistles : Queen Elizabeth 2 has three whistles, audible for ranges of up to 2 miles. On the mast there is one air whistle and one electric whistle, used for making sounds when the ship is manoeuvring. There is also one on the foredeck for use when the ship is in restricted visibility (this whistle being sounded every 2 minutes, by an automatic timer). All whistles are tested at noon each sea day.

There is an entry about Tyfon whistles here in Wikipedia :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistle

Quote :
Ship's whistles must be very loud for safety on the seas. Modern ship's whistles can be electrically or steam driven. RMS Queen Mary was originally equipped with three electric Tyfon whistles in 1932. They could be heard at least ten miles away and were tuned to 55 Hz, a low bass A note that was chosen for maximum passenger comfort despite the high sound pressure level. One of the three whistles was taken back to Kockum Sonics in Malmö, Sweden, where it was refurbished for a new life of service aboard the RMS Queen Mary 2. Modern IMO regulations specify ships' whistle frequencies to be in the range 70-200 Hz for vessels that are over 200 meters in length. Traditionally, the lower the frequency, the larger the ship. The Queen Mary 2, being 345 meters long, was given the lowest possible frequency (70 Hz) for her regulation whistles which means she carries both 70 Hz modern whistles and a single vintage 55 Hz whistle.

Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 06, 2009, 07:58 PM
This is what was written in the QE2 Daily Programme on 14 September 2008 -- and is quoted with a sound sample here (and on the following video too) :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/2943190804/

Typhon Whistles : Queen Elizabeth 2 has three whistles, audible for ranges of up to 2 miles. On the mast there is one air whistle and one electric whistle, used for making sounds when the ship is manoeuvring.


So - the 2 big 'horns' that we've all seen on the front of the mast, only one of them is the QE2's booming voice that we know so well???  Wow!

Also amazed to read that QM1's horns weren't steam either!! So the person who once told me that the reason QM2 will never sound like QM1 because they're not steam was talking nonsense!

QM2's vintage whistle, at 50khz, isn't regulation - but does she use it? have we heard it?  or have we only heard the re-tuned "legal" one?  Confusing!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Andy F on Mar 06, 2009, 08:12 PM
I've always understood them to be electric/air operated also.
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 06, 2009, 08:57 PM

Rob - although I haven't a copy of the whole video (possibly on YouTube?), I believe there was a comment made (not sure by who) about both Whistles during the Final Tandem Crossing - when both QE2 and QM2 were whistling to each other during the day before reaching So'ton.  Then it seemed that the QM2 Whistle was sounding distincly higher and thinner than the deep dark tone of the QE2's Whistle!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 06, 2009, 09:19 PM
There's a lovely one from just before their departure from Southampton for their final tandem crossing, made by Hythe Eye :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hythe-eye/2931041373/

And here's another great one, taken from on board QE2 by Nick Herber :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nickherber/3023289285/

The contrast between the two is amazing...
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 06, 2009, 10:01 PM
A sad day...
Thanks to thecallows


Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Andy F on Mar 06, 2009, 10:37 PM
Great find Rosie, although as I recall, all was not well that day!  I was waiting for QM2 to sail by (and suitably miffed at the fact QE2 was berthed the wrong way around), and when she did, she was blowing her whistle with all her might, trying to elicit a response from her venerable sister.  After some time had passed, QE2 eventually responded but rather than her usual baritone blast, the return was somewhat feeble unfortunately and from where I was standing, sounded like the fog horn on the fo'c'sle  :( 

Fortunately, whatever was wrong had been fixed by the time she departed later that evening for she was certainly in fine voice then but this final meeting of the 2 sisters was something of an anti-climax it must be said!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 06, 2009, 11:33 PM
Thanks and there are more to come, Andy!

QE2 Farewell

by samuels5731
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Kindlychap on Mar 06, 2009, 11:49 PM
The operation of the whistles is controlled by a rotary switch and a button, both on a small white panel near the centre of the bridge - and the operator has the choice of either or both of the main whistles. At noon the whistles are sounded together on the stroke of noon, and then the next two blasts are one each of the two whistles separately. The foghorn (which I loved as much as the whistle - it was the highlight of the Grand Banks on a TA - listening to it every other minute..... Particularly lovely late at night, lying in bed with it clearly audible was a memory that I will hold with me to my grave. Unlike that thing on QM2, which is just strident.

If one listened carefully at noon one could hear the combination of the two, then the slightly weaker blasts following it. I think the pitch was very close together, and was probably responsible for the beat that one could hear in it.

Matthew
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 06, 2009, 11:51 PM
Thanks Matthew, I didnt know that about both sounding at once - that explains her wonderful voice!

I agree about the foghorn - it sounded amazing.
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Bob C. on Mar 07, 2009, 12:14 AM
This is a great discussion and the video in the above post just educated me after 39 years of knowing QE2 that there are 3 distinct whistles as we heard 3 tones from 2 different places - 2 on the mast and one forward.  The rumor I have always known was that when second set of penthouses were installed in 1977 (QM and QE Grand Suites), the whistle on the mast was deactivated and moved forward to where the fog horn is now because of the possible disturbance to the penthouse dwellers.   

My guess is that this is partially true.  There is the novelty and romance of hearing the ship's whistle when departing or entering port but to hear it every two minutes in fog that can be present for days on end when crossing the Atlantic would be tantamount to a Chinese water torture.   I think it logical to assume the foward whistle was added to keep the fog signal away from the penthouses and the original whistles were only used for less frequent soundings.

Can anyone back me up on my theory? 

I do know that when the forward whistle was first added, its STBD leg stood on the bow anchor chain run and the other two on the deck.  When the chain run was removed, the foward whistle stood on 3 equal legs. 

Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Kindlychap on Mar 07, 2009, 01:26 AM
My guess is that this is partially true.  There is the novelty and romance of hearing the ship's whistle when departing or entering port but to hear it every two minutes in fog that can be present for days on end when crossing the Atlantic would be tantamount to a Chinese water torture.   I think it logical to assume the foward whistle was added to keep the fog signal away from the penthouses and the original whistles were only used for less frequent soundings.

Can anyone back me up on my theory? 

I think you are wrong. And I say that because the foghorn is not annoying in the penthouses. I've certainly listened to it at night on several occasions in 8001 although I can't really recall the situation in 8081. I was always thrilled to hear it and it really wasn't that noisy. Unlike the one on QM2.

What you say sounds sensible, but is simply not borne out by experience.

Matthew
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Mar 07, 2009, 06:50 AM
The sound of QMary2's horn is a definite two tone, unlike QE2 who has a solid and powerful voice. Again many thanks to those who posted these on Youtube.
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 07, 2009, 10:07 AM
This is a truly great video - I've written to it's Maker expressing very much gratitude!  
QM2 and QE2 An Atlantic Farewell
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 07, 2009, 05:54 PM
The information about QM1's horns appears to be incorrect - I've received this from someone who worked on board QM1

Quote
Electric? Of course they were steam, I was there in the boiler rooms for five years. As for 1932, the Queen Mary had no funnels to install the whistles.
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 07, 2009, 09:14 PM
QE2 Whistle on 40th anniversary of launch

Thanks to Magthecoder




Following the posting of the QE2 and QM2 whistling to each other, the Maker of that video also referred to this one!  
It's his recording of the QE2's Whistle, made on her the 40th Anniversary of her launch!

'Onboard QE2 40th Birthday Whistle Salute'
Three Cheers with Captain McNaught!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 08, 2009, 09:31 AM


June 2008.  The penultimate time that The QE2 sailed into Geiranger Fjord

Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 08, 2009, 09:37 AM


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Sailing through the Fjord towards Geiranger, for the Final time - August 2008
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 08, 2009, 12:01 PM

Sailing through the Fjord towards Geiranger, for the Final time - August 2008

That's a beauty, Rosie. I have always loved, loved, loved, those moments when QE2 with her wonderful whistle and overawing majesty, plays along with far smaller ships (and, on one occasion, a crowd of hooting school children!) in a to-and-fro banter of blasts.

And indeed, my life with QE2 ended in just such a way, with a whistle exchange between Balmoral and QE2 on the dark Clyde, when QE2 left for that final time, with whistle greetings sent to and fro, only this time not merry but full of lament, and with the hills on either side of the river sending back the echo. And us, hushed, taking it in... a huge mix of powerful emotions.
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Kindlychap on Mar 08, 2009, 03:05 PM
That's a beauty, Rosie. I have always loved, loved, loved, those moments when QE2 with her wonderful whistle and overawing majesty, plays along with far smaller ships (and, on one occasion, a crowd of hooting school children!) in a to-and-fro banter of blasts.

We visited Geiranger twice on QE2. On both occasions we had encounters such as this one, and it really was the best place to hear the whistle, as it echoed around and around the fjord. Memories......

Matthew
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 12, 2009, 12:59 PM
The Final Arrival at Geiranger, Norway - enjoy!


Thanks to Svarten42


Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: singlemalt on Mar 12, 2009, 02:16 PM
aww Mrs Twnkyle - we were there!!! Marvellous or what?
I know exactly where i was standing, what photos I was taking, conversations I was involved in and the general wow factor of the whistle echoing around the fjord. Blissful times  ;D

Random highlight of the day - clicked on one of the linkies below it of kids in QE2 pool in big waves and recognised Rob's wee Scottish giggle coming from behind the camera.
Didn't know he'd posted it on youtube; resulted in huge grin and fab memories of the day we never actually got to Alghero!

All roads lead back to QE2 connections on here it seems  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Mar 12, 2009, 04:32 PM
Hey Guys,

I am a little confuse about all the discussion about Whistle and Horns.  I thought there were 2 "whistles" on QE2 in the Mast.  From what I'm reading, it seems like there is an addition "horn" on the fo'c's'le used on a time in the fog.  Just to clarify, is this correct? 

I agree with Kindlychap the whistles were never an issue during fog in the Penthouses.

And the question of steam or no steam on QM2 really confuses me.  I was on the maiden TA and a big deal was made about the Port whistle being the original whistle being the original steam whistle from QM with an electric "duplicate" on the Starboard.  When onboard the Port whistle definitely emits steam, the starboard does not.  I was on the QE2 on the final tandem to NY and when the ships neared NY they got very close together and steam was clearly coming out of QM2's port whistle.

scott
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Mar 12, 2009, 06:59 PM
Its fake steam on QM2 though Scott, there purely for retro effect, like so much of QM2.
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 12, 2009, 07:11 PM
Wondering about the QE2 whistle...
... has it perhaps changed in the course of the years?

Rob's web site has it sounding like this :

http://roblightbody.com/liners/qe-2/QE2_Whistle.wav

... which is how I believe I remember it from the early 2000s (when I was far less observant as far as QE2 goes)... it seemed to have a constant volume of sound.

Latterly (up to November 2008), the whistle had to my ears a more "pumping" rhythm, like a breath or a heartbeat, volume rising and falling.

Does my question make sense, as such? And has there been a change in the whistle, or is it my poor observation skill and memory?

Just wondering...
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 13, 2009, 04:42 PM

Captain McNaught, her Whistle and The 'pool!

'October 4th, 2008, the Cunard liner Queen Elizabeth 2 made her final visit to Liverpool - the place she was conceived'.

It was an emotional and historic day as Liverpool paid tribute to, and said goodbye to this beautiful ship'
With thanks to mcpcshowcase
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 23, 2009, 10:12 AM
Regarding what the Whistle 'expresses'...

Might it be possible for someone to explain what 'messages' may be sent by 'Whistle'?
Is there a translation?  Can anything be misinterpreted?

This is a naive question coming from a curious QE2 nut, willing to learn!

It particularly applies to our experience of the QE2!!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Bob C. on Mar 23, 2009, 08:56 PM
Twynkle,
  Not sure exactly what you are asking but ship's whistles are used in the maritime rules for general messages such as 1 prolonged blast (5-7 sec) is change in status (from moored to underway, underway to anchored, etc), 3 short blasts (3-5 sec each) is "I am operating astern propulsion", 5 or more short blasts " you standing into danger' or inother words get out of my way, you are about to be run over with 70,000 tons of QE2.

   
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Andy F on Mar 23, 2009, 09:34 PM
Rosie

An interesting question and as Bob says, each sequence has a meaning.  There are others but the main ones are as follows:

One short blast means 'I am changing course to starboard'
Two short blasts - 'I am changing course to port'
Three short blasts - 'I am operating astern'
Two prolonged blasts followed by one short blast - 'I intend to overtake you on your starboard side'
Two prolonged blasts followed by two short blasts - 'I intend to over-take you on your port side'
Five or more short blasts - keep clear (although I prefer Bob's version lol)
A long blast every two minutes is used when operating in fog

The one signal you never hope to hear of course is six short blasts followed by one long one (unless of course you are attending the lifeboat drill)!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 23, 2009, 11:49 PM
Wondering about the QE2 whistle...
... has it perhaps changed in the course of the years?

Isabelle - QE2's bow whistle (the air horn on the foredeck) was replaced sometime during the late 1990's. If you look at images it was originally a circular grey horn, and later replaced with a rectangle white horn. This may have modified QE2's voice somewhat.

The most spectacular soundings are when the "Air & Electric" switch is on - sounding both types of horn. QE2's voice seems to resonate within you ... it surrounds you, enters you, fills you with a sense of total comfort... it was, every time, a thrill to hear it... I am sure you all relate.

Chris.

Circular Horn Visible Here (Just):

(http://www.worldshipny.com/qe2jmcfwc2.jpg)

Rectangular one here:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2948397726_a11f294dc2.jpg)
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 24, 2009, 12:03 AM
Thank you to you both, Bob, Andy and Chris!

And when we were passing the Norwegian QE2 Supporters' Club as we were sailing out of Geiranger Fjord - there was definitely a sort of 'fanfare' ( ____   ____  ____ .   .   .      ) from the Whistle - it would be good to think this was thank you for the 'rocketing salute' and farewell!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Chris Frame on Mar 24, 2009, 12:06 AM
In recent years they enjoyed signalling QE2's horn like:

---------- -- ---------- -- ---------- -- --

Or

---------- -- -- 

Just for fun I expect?
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Twynkle on Mar 24, 2009, 12:13 AM
Exactly Chris!

BTW - how did you manage to post those wonderful images?  I've just spent ages trying to post a tiny one of the noble Norwegian's and their Rockets only to be told the image was too large!!

We were all enjoying ourselves at the same time as feeling very sad!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Bob C. on Mar 24, 2009, 03:47 AM
I think if QE2 could blow her own horn right now it might be something like this:

       * * *  ---- ---- ----  * * *

aka SOS.

Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Mauretania1907 on Mar 24, 2009, 09:03 AM
I would agree with that. SOS indeed. >:(
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Andy F on Mar 24, 2009, 10:08 PM
Nice one Bob!  Of course, she could be thinking that Our Souls (think about it) just aren't worth Saving....lol  ;)

I'll probably get moderated now  :-[
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: Avariel on Apr 01, 2009, 03:43 PM

QE2 sounding her horn before leaving Rotterdam in 2007. Probably one of the few videos where I actually shut up and didn't add any smart alec comments to. I do admit I was waiting for Queen Victoria to 'reply' but sadly I didn't hear anything.

Another slightly off topic question, does anyone use the recording of the whistle for their phone ring tones or anything? I use a recording of the whistle for my Skype ring tone - shocks me every time someone calls. And also as the alarm tone on my iPod. The whistle is the perfect way to get me out of bed. Only because it shocks me and then I can't get back to sleep.
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: nigelrob on Apr 02, 2009, 09:25 PM
As far as i know QE2 whistle was never steam powered, but remember as a lad when she was built reading that the sound was a copy of the old QE 1. Can any one confirm this?
Title: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 23, 2009, 04:07 AM
Awesome!  :D ;D :)

Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: KEV on Apr 23, 2009, 12:25 PM
Great fun!
Someone was enjoying pressing the button-love the interaction in Bilbao (with the tug?)
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 23, 2009, 01:52 PM
Hi Chris

Yet another great Wake-Up call!
Most mornings there's something new, beatiful and today, it's very good indeed! 
Had the volume up loud. Brilliant!

I haven't mentioned the (now frequent) sound to my neighbour....yet!


Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Andy F on Apr 23, 2009, 09:35 PM
I haven't mentioned the (now frequent) sound to my neighbour....yet!

Probably best not to Rosie eh?
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: KEV on Apr 26, 2009, 12:10 AM
There must be a way of converting my Friedland chime doorbell to accept a recording signal with the aid of a Marshall amp and some of my old sizeable Rock speakers......
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 27, 2009, 08:44 AM

There must be a way of converting my Friedland chime doorbell to accept a recording signal with the aid of a Marshall amp and some of my old sizeable Rock speakers......

Kev - I am sure there is!

My Mac can produce it even when there's no-one at the door!

I wish it was available as a car horn too!


Maybe Waverley can invent one...?

Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Avariel on Apr 27, 2009, 11:30 AM
There's an episode of Keeping Up Appearances when Hyacinth gets the workmen to set her house alarm system alert to QE2's horn. I laughed so hard when I saw that episode.

Not that I don't do something similar.

My alarm tone on my iPod is the QE2's horn. And it can be quite loud - especially if I have the iPod attached to the speakers.

Someday my neighbours are going to start wondering what is that sound.
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Andy F on Apr 27, 2009, 11:27 PM
Still trying to figure out how to set this as the alarm tone on my Nokia - no chance of sleeping through that lol!
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 28, 2009, 12:19 AM
Andy

Might this act as an alarm when downloaded?

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/search/3842159.Get_your_free_QE2_ringtone_for_your_mobile_phone_/

Not being a techie type - not sure whether ring tones and alarms are the same thing!
It is in an MP3 version too

Hope it works!
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Andy F on Apr 28, 2009, 12:55 AM
Thanks Rosie but while I've downloaded it to my phone and can use it as a ringtone if desired (I don't), I can't seem to hack into the alarm tones.  Still, probably just as well lol!
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 28, 2009, 08:09 AM
Yes Andy- Maybe it's the only time QE2 might cause a problems...
That sinking feeling on waking!
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Chris Frame on Apr 28, 2009, 12:36 PM
I often smile at the thought of having a QE2 horn on my car when some (!) person cuts me off at a round-about ;) mmm if only!
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 28, 2009, 12:50 PM
If only....
Thinking about setting a new topic....Think I will....!
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Andy F on Apr 28, 2009, 09:19 PM
I often smile at the thought of having a QE2 horn on my car when some (!) person cuts me off at a round-about ;) mmm if only!
I'm with you there Chris and as one known to have a propensity to use his horn whenever the need arises, I can certainly relate to that lol!
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Malcolm on May 02, 2009, 06:34 PM
Hyacinth gets the workmen to set her house alarm system alert to QE2's horn.

Can that be done in real life?
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Avariel on May 02, 2009, 07:05 PM
Hyacinth gets the workmen to set her house alarm system alert to QE2's horn.

Can that be done in real life?
I'm not too sure. Though I'm sure those more techy than I am might be able to find a way.
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 06, 2009, 11:15 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2677899376760931254&q=Cruise+ship

  :)   With just a few apologies if this is somewhere else on here already..... :'(
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Aug 06, 2009, 11:32 PM
Nice one, Rosie!

Here's another great video with interaction between the two ships' whistles :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hythe-eye/2931041373/

A Flickr video, which I have not yet learnt how to embed...

I get amused at what happens when QM2 starts... little giggles erupt...  ;)
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Scott Ebersold on Aug 07, 2009, 12:07 AM
I feel like that sounds familiar nigelrob ... which leads me to my question:  What note is QE2's whistle.  I know I've read about it but just can't find it.  There's loads of info about QM2's whistle being a "deep bass A" but I can't find a stich about  the note of QE2's whistle.

Anyone know off hand?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: highlander0108 on Aug 07, 2009, 03:05 AM
I feel like that sounds familiar nigelrob ... which leads me to my question:  What note is QE2's whistle.  I know I've read about it but just can't find it.  There's loads of info about QM2's whistle being a "deep bass A" but I can't find a stich about  the note of QE2's whistle.

Anyone know off hand?

I too have been searching for the actual octive of Qe2's whistle.  I suspect it is lower than the 70hz of the current regulations, another reason why her sound is so unique among the current crop of cruise ships.  Would she have been grandfathered in for compliance with this regulation?  I do have mixed emotions regarding whether her whistle should be given to the new QE, even if there was a way to get around the new regs.  QM2's sound of the original whistle is complicated with the sound of the newer horns.  I also read on the wearecunard site that Cuanrd confirmed that there will be no whistle donation from QE2 for the new QE3 and she willhave her own "unique" sound, which i suspect will sound jsut as tinny as QV's.
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 07, 2009, 08:35 AM
Isabelle - that was a truly great Fix
Thank you - and to Hythe eye!

Have you heard this one?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: highlander0108 on Aug 08, 2009, 07:30 PM
Here is what I have found so far, which may add some insight and/or further confusion regarding the whistles.  From the Kockum website, there are two sizes of the Tyfon style whistle currently available.  Whether or not these are the exact same units that were put on QE2 is one question.  There are two Tyon whistles built into the forward mast.  They are both air horns.  From this pic I took on her final departure from NYC, it is clear that they are of differing diameters. 
(http://highlander0108.smugmug.com/photos/614181474_7SQ5z-M.jpg)
The larger diameter whistle, which is the lower mounted unit, has the deeper sound, from the website.  Perhaps the unique sound of QE2's horn is the fact that they used two different octave sounding whistles.

Here are links to the two different air powered whistles from the Kockum website.
http://www.kockumsonics.com/pdf/marine/KSM267E_MKT_15090.pdf (http://www.kockumsonics.com/pdf/marine/KSM267E_MKT_15090.pdf)
http://www.kockumsonics.com/pdf/marine/KSM_268_MKT150110.pdf (http://www.kockumsonics.com/pdf/marine/KSM_268_MKT150110.pdf)

The whistle mounted on the foredeck is an electric unit.  It appears that the electric units are rectangular shaped, as illustrated here.  Photo courtesy of former safety officer Ashley Allen posted on RMSqueenelizabeth2.com website.  I just love this picture. 
(http://highlander0108.smugmug.com/photos/614196292_Xk9gf-M.jpg)
http://www.kockumsonics.com/pdf/marine/KSM_602_MTX150120.pdf (http://www.kockumsonics.com/pdf/marine/KSM_602_MTX150120.pdf)
Perhaps others have found the actual frequency of the whistles used on QE2.  Maybe the sound can still be duplicated today and meet current IMO regs.   ;D
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: citrail on Aug 10, 2009, 01:15 PM
Not sure if  this one should be in here, but there is plenty of "QE2 horn fix" at the beginning of this one

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6113154463286775489
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Aug 10, 2009, 06:05 PM
Quote
The whistle mounted on the foredeck is an electric unit.  It appears that the electric units are rectangular shaped, as illustrated here.


They can also be round as you can see on this link.That whistle is used mostly as the Fog Horn.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ex-crewmember/3553974185/in/pool-qe2-the_legend


Louis
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Sep 17, 2009, 07:54 PM
Another discussion of the QE2 whistles here... with some familiar faces  ;D  ...

http://hornwhistleboard.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2433
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Sep 17, 2009, 08:31 PM
Thank you, Isabelle and 'The Others!'
That's the best thing that's happened for some time....!
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: PJtheMuppet on Sep 17, 2009, 10:13 PM

QE2 sounding her horn before leaving Rotterdam in 2007. Probably one of the few videos where I actually shut up and didn't add any smart alec comments to. I do admit I was waiting for Queen Victoria to 'reply' but sadly I didn't hear anything.

Another slightly off topic question, does anyone use the recording of the whistle for their phone ring tones or anything? I use a recording of the whistle for my Skype ring tone - shocks me every time someone calls. And also as the alarm tone on my iPod. The whistle is the perfect way to get me out of bed. Only because it shocks me and then I can't get back to sleep.

I do I have it as my message tone!!!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: highlander0108 on Sep 18, 2009, 01:28 AM
I found a forum for all you "whistle" enthusiasts that makes very interesting reading. I joined and posted questions on the "horns" used on QE2 and here is the response I got from the expert.  So it is the two horns on the foremast, one air driven, and one electrical, slightly off tune, that produce that wonderful mellow tone.

http://www.hornwhistleboard.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2433&hilit=

I was corrected on another board once, referring QE2's horns as whistles.  Technically I was correct. All of the sound producing devices on QE2 are "air horns."  Titanic has whistles, which were accurately reproduced for the movie if you recall that poker scene in Southampton.  Whistles use a pipe with an orifice that is tuned to produce a sound when steam or compressed air is driven through it.  Air horns use a  diaphragm which produces occillation in a power chamber that when air is applied, the diaphragm vibrates against a nozzle. The oscillation of the diaphragm against the nozzle produces sound. The configuration and overall dimensions of the bell , which is what we see in the mast on QE2, determines the frequency produced (measured in hertz).  There is a post on the above mentioned board that explains this probably better than I attempted.

From now on I will refer any discussion on the voice of QE2 as her "horns."

Ken

Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Sep 18, 2009, 08:13 AM
Thank you, Ken
Interesting stuff!

About the QE2, her horns and particularly the vibrations
At times, they sound as if something is actually 'moving' more slowly;
it seems as if these are more pronounced now than earlier in her career
Could this be to do with the atmosphere, wind direction, sound recording etc
Or...is this just imagination...?!?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Bob C. on Sep 18, 2009, 04:13 PM
Rosie,
  I think what you are referring to is caused by a slight offset of the frequencies of the two horns.  When the two sets of sound waves interact the resulting combined sound wave gains and loses energy causing the cyclic variation in sound volume.  A bit scientific, my apologies, but that's what I hear when the horns blow.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Sep 18, 2009, 04:55 PM
Thank you, Bob.C
I wish they were here now - if you know what I mean!
Or at least hope for the possibility of hearing them live - resonating deeply -
it was wonderful in the Fjords last August
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Sep 29, 2009, 09:54 AM
Thank you, Ken
This is a very good site
http://qe2-prideoftheclyde.blogspot.com/2009/09/tyfon-horns-update.html
 
Longing to hear her again....
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Sep 29, 2009, 06:22 PM

Longing to hear her again....


Here you are, Rosie!
And by the way, I was on QE2... in Zeebrugge on 19 July 2008...  :D ... and the Captain was Ian McNaught  :-*  !


Enjoy!!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Sep 29, 2009, 06:44 PM
And another question :

                                     Is this how it's done??

Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Kindlychap on Oct 06, 2009, 05:11 AM
And another question :

                                     Is this how it's done??

No - it is a white button, with a switch beside to select both, either or foghorn.

Matthew
Title: QE2 & QM2 in the Caribbean
Post by: Chris Frame on Oct 22, 2009, 07:07 AM


Was anyone there?

QE2's horn - it is just so superb!
Title: Why 3 blasts on the horn?
Post by: pete cain on Nov 02, 2009, 07:54 PM
 out of idle curiosity  ,can any of our sea farers please tell us why vessels seem to always have a 3 whistle salute either to each other or just to the port about to be left?
Title: Re: Why 3 blasts on the horn?
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 02, 2009, 08:19 PM
Hi Pete
You might be interested in more on the same subject...
Take a look at post No.32 above.
Title: Re: Why 3 blasts on the horn?
Post by: Chris Frame on Nov 03, 2009, 05:29 AM
With a horn like QE2's - three is better than two ;)
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: CasinoChris on Nov 06, 2009, 03:17 AM
Hi There,
in answer to a former question regarding the whistle/horns. The Foghorn on the fore-deck was installed to reduce the noise levels in the penthouse cabins. This horn was mainly used whilst sailing in fog etc. The horns on the mainmast were used for the midday blast! leaving port and saluting other vessels. Not sure that the forward foghorn really reduced noise,
I remember being able to hear it from the casino on upper deck.
Cheers
CasinoChris
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Nov 06, 2009, 08:20 AM
Am I right in thinking that the sole purpose of the ship's whistle (officially ;) ) is to act as an 'alarm' bell- both inside a passenger ship, as well as out?
If it is - then wouldn't it seem pretty important for it to be heard throughout the ship at any time - Even in QE2's Penthouse Suites and all!  Do you know which Whistle would be sounded in an emergency - The whistle or the fog-horn or both?
And at the Emergency Drill practice, I can't remember - was it a recording of the whistle that was played - or the genuine article, Live!?

Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: junglejames on Nov 23, 2009, 02:42 AM
OK, an answer to a few posts. Some old, some new. I have a recording of the whistle as my ringtone, and I never intend to change it. Its different!
Rosie, the whistle is for the outside world. You have alarm bells for inside the accomodation.
Somebody mentioned you never want to hear 6 short followed by 1 long. Do you by any chance mean 7 or more short, followed by 1 long? and yes, it is 7 or more short. Not 7 short.

Highlander, you said someone had pulled you up over terminology? On land, any sound produced by air would be a horn yes, but we are not on land, we are at sea. At sea the correct terminology is 'Ships Whistle'.
All these sounds we have heard on this thread are Whistles as they are coming from ships.
Whistles may have changed from steam to air, but the terminology hasnt changed.
So Highlander, from now on you can go back to refering to QE2's whistle as her whistle.
In fact, if I see anybody refering to it as her horn, or as I have sometimes heard, her hooter, then I will pull them up and correct them!! Sorry, but we all have our pet hates, and this is one of mine!! LOL

Happy Whistling,

James
Title: Re: QE2 whistles
Post by: highlander0108 on Mar 19, 2010, 04:22 AM
I did not manage to record the foghorn at the time, but it is one of the horns sounded daily in the noontime whistle test, and I do have two recordings of that :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/2943190804/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/2942390163/

Enjoy them!

The first recording is a fastinating illustration on just how the wonderful sound of QE2 is actually made. The air and electric Tyfon's on the mast are just slightly out of tune, and when combined make that wonderful harmonious sound.  I do doubt that the forward bow mounted horn really adds much to the sound.
Title: Re: QE2 whistles
Post by: Kindlychap on Mar 25, 2010, 10:27 AM
The first recording is a fastinating illustration on just how the wonderful sound of QE2 is actually made. The air and electric Tyfon's on the mast are just slightly out of tune, and when combined make that wonderful harmonious sound.  I do doubt that the forward bow mounted horn really adds much to the sound.

It adds nothing because it isn't used with the main whistles. As I've said earlier, the selector does not give the option of the mast mounted whistles at the same time as the fog horn.

Matthew
Title: Re: QE2 Whistle
Post by: highlander0108 on Apr 24, 2010, 12:58 AM
Gosh, you live and learn, Perhaps when she blew, it put the rest of them to shame :)
Correct me if lm wrong But when a ship sounds her whistle and gives a very short blast at the end, doesnt this mean thats enough and she wont blow again? or words to that effect...

Our friends who were on the last World Cruise were quite miffed at "Perky" when there was no whistle at all during the departure in Hawaii.  He later came on the tannoy and stated that was the case because of the environment impact on some protected birds prevented this.  Good god, what have we come too? ???

What about the maritime law requirement to blow the horn three times to signal backing away from the pier?  What if the captain blew the whistle anyway?  What would the fine have been and who the heck enforces that in the first place?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistle
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Apr 26, 2010, 03:57 PM
Gosh, you live and learn, Perhaps when she blew, it put the rest of them to shame :)
Correct me if lm wrong But when a ship sounds her whistle and gives a very short blast at the end, doesnt this mean thats enough and she wont blow again? or words to that effect...

When a ship blows her whistle the number of "blasts" can be taken as a signal to other ships:

1 short blast is to signal a manouvre to Port
2 short blasts is to signal a manouvre to Starboard
3 short blasts is to signal that the ship is moving astern
4 Dont know!!!
5 short blasts means "Please make you intentions clear" and is made to another vessel which may be on a converging course or similar which could create a dangerous situation.

If you end any of these with a short blast then this indicates that the whistle blasts were not intended as a signal.

In London Waverley is not allowed to sound her whistle whilst going under Tower Bridge due to "noise pollution"!!! ???

Sorry to wander off topic and I hope I am correct.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistle
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 26, 2010, 04:29 PM
Hi Gav

See Posts above #30 and  31 for de-coding the blasts! (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php?topic=206.msg3261#msg3261)
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Apr 27, 2010, 08:20 AM
Doh!

Should've read further up!!!

Sorry folks!!  :-[
Title: The Noisy White Button - Guilty or Not!
Post by: skilly56 on May 28, 2010, 01:27 PM
Ok, admit it!

Put your hand up those who have deafened everyone on deck by pushing this button (top right)

Just give me time to find my ear muffs first.

Cheers

Skilly
Title: Re: The Noisy White Button - Guilty or Not!
Post by: Michael Gallagher on May 28, 2010, 01:31 PM
Several times - the most special was as she passed Calshot for the last time on 11 November 2008. The last time her whistle was blown there. Her last goodbye to her nation.
Title: Re: The Noisy White Button - Guilty or Not!
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on May 28, 2010, 02:46 PM
At last I can see it... Such a small button to produce such a huge sound! Thank you for that   ;D  .


Just give me time to find my ear muffs first.


Glad you are complying with the health and safety notice on the mast!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/3051063886/

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/3051063886_9acd04e885.jpg)

IMPORTANT

Ear muffs must be worn whilst working up or in mast unless all whistle control gear is inoperative.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 22, 2010, 06:13 PM
Stumbled on this topic whilst browsing and can;t resist postin gthis pic of me blowing the noon day whistle...my face is hilarious  I got such a fright.  but I forgot to  take my finger off the big white button!!! ...at least my Mum looks more in control than I did!!

Could post the pics easier as a friend took these on digital...saves me going up the loft!  Just wish it could have been on video but sadly no video cameras allowed on the bridge.....think we were lucky to use our cameras.......(security.)

It sure was a QE2 moment to remember.....
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Aug 23, 2010, 05:09 PM
Love the face Ann!!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 23, 2010, 06:15 PM
NEarly as good as the hair on the top of the Titan Rob !!!  LOL
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Aug 23, 2010, 06:21 PM
NEarly as good as the hair on the top of the Titan Rob !!!  LOL
Maybe you can have your own section in our new gallery :)
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Aug 23, 2010, 08:25 PM
By the time I work that one out you will have moved onto something else!!haha
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 28, 2010, 12:05 PM
THIS is specially for flagship, Rob and all Mods!
to say Thank You!
Thanks to ColemanHeald
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: PJtheMuppet on Aug 28, 2010, 10:54 PM
Absolutely wonderful!!!!!    ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Noisy White Button - Guilty or Not!
Post by: Kindlychap on Aug 29, 2010, 09:57 AM
Ok, admit it!

Put your hand up those who have deafened everyone on deck by pushing this button (top right)

Just give me time to find my ear muffs first.

Cheers

Skilly

My hand is firmly in the air. 27 June 2006.......

Matthew
Title: Blowing horn
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Oct 02, 2010, 11:25 PM
I don't know where to put this.


I wish I could do that! I wonder how the man got access to do that? He is very lucky to have blown the Queen's horn. Such a lovely sound.
Title: Re: Blowing horn
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Oct 03, 2010, 12:51 AM
I don't know where to put this.

Probably best here, with the other "QE2 Whistle" posts, as we have not yet seen how the whistle is operated.

Yes, this man was very lucky... and I am glad he was filmed while doing it. Thank you, Shaun, for spotting the recording and bringing it here!

Mind you, if it had been me pushing that marvellous button, I would have given a good long three-blast salute  ;D  !
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: RMS Queen Elizabeth 2 on Oct 03, 2010, 11:25 AM
Thats quite recent that is.

If I was going to blow her horn it wouldn't be 3 long blasts it would be 10 blasts. I just love that sound.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 18, 2010, 10:00 AM
This was one of the longest single blasts (in a series) that I can remember hearing on board.
Apart from the 'regulations', was there a limit to the number and length of blasts when sounded as greetings?
Thanks to accyste for the video

What if anything, needed to happen in the engine room so that QE2 could sustain any length and number of blasts?
This may have been answered elsewhere...it's a question borne of great ignorance on the subject!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 01, 2011, 11:44 PM
That QE2 whistle -- it is great to enjoy it again, even on the videos! But in real life, it was even better, with that full throated sound and the vibrations which I seemed to feel.

And that made me want to ask Peter : Could you discern the vibrations of the QE2 whistle? Did they feel in any way special to you?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jan 02, 2011, 11:41 AM
That's actually a bit difficult to answer because there are so many other vibrations while on board.

However, from nearby on land - yes -  if i am close enough ( think Hythe Pier or Calshot Castle ) then I can indeed feel the deep bass vibrations in my stomach when a ship's horn is going, but I am also hearing it and am concentrating more on the sound than anything else.

Now - it would be nice if someone could invent a ship's horn that, at any distance, would vibrate one's stomach in the same way as standing a few feet away from a Deltic ( that's a type of older railway locomotive ) with both engines running on fast idle will do... :)
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Cristina on Jan 02, 2011, 05:28 PM
Loved watching and listening to the whistle vids but even sadder was watching her actually moving at sea.
So much nicer than knowing she is simply sat stationary now.    Fantastic vids though. :'(
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: skilly56 on Jan 03, 2011, 01:59 AM
Aaaww Rosie,

You already know there is always more hot air on the Bridge than in the engine room! So, they just keep pushing that little white button until a fuse blows in an electrical distribution box in the wheel house, then all goes peaceful and quiet again.

Hope you and yours have an enjoyable voyage - unfortunately, I am back on the job at the end of January and don't get ashore in NZ again until about March 8th - 10th, otherwise I would be meeting you in the Sky Tower or at the Viaduct Basin.

Currently sweltering in 28 degrees at Lake Taupo after 4 days being cooked in Hawkes Bay. It is just so hot I am having to sit inside and watch Maria Sharapova bounce around the tennis court in Auckland. Very entertaining!

Cheers

Skilly
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Jan 03, 2011, 07:49 AM
Oh Skilly!!!' - for lots of reasons!  ;)

In the days of pure steam, would the whistles have ever run out of it then?

(Good news that you are at home now -
and Very bad news that the bosses made a cunning plan to sabotage our meeting!)
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: R80OOP on Mar 03, 2011, 08:17 PM
I get all emotional when I hear the QE2's mighty whistles - thank god for You tube!!! I can re-live my me,ories time and time again.  No other sound can compete with her amazing blast!! magnificient. 
Title: Battle of the Horns--QE2--QM2 Sothampton
Post by: bobso on Jun 16, 2011, 06:38 AM
Link to a Battle of the Horns in Sothampton

Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: bobso on Jun 16, 2011, 02:02 PM
QE2 40th birthday whistles--

Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: skilly56 on Jun 16, 2011, 04:21 PM
40 Seconds!
Not bad for an old girl, 1 sec = 1 year!

Skilly
(In Perth)
Title: QE2 sounds her horn
Post by: bobso on Aug 02, 2011, 06:02 AM
Short video of the QE2 and Shieldhall sounding their horns---


Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rod on Aug 07, 2011, 09:26 PM
When you were a watchkeeper living on 1 deck forward, the foghorn on 1 deck forward was a pain.......Not much sleep...but who cared the PH pax were paying my wages!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: riskygizmo on Aug 10, 2011, 08:26 PM
Yep, I remember Nigel Rigg, the hotel officer (he of the John Lennon specs and Onion Castle buttons) bemoaning the fact that
he always seemed to get the cabin right underneath the fwd foghorn.  Talking of hotel bods, another I particularly remember is
Robin (sorry, can't recall his surname) "Bookie" to his friends, or "Mr Bookie" to my little brother. It was he who told me the story
behind the big plaque from the bomb disposal team that had jumped into the sea in 1972. Memory is a strange beast - thirty some
years on I can remember that he drank Johnnie Walker Black Label with THREE lumps of ice.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rod on Aug 11, 2011, 12:03 AM
Yep, I remember Nigel Rigg, the hotel officer (he of the John Lennon specs and Onion Castle buttons) bemoaning the fact that
he always seemed to get the cabin right underneath the fwd foghorn.  Talking of hotel bods, another I particularly remember is
Robin (sorry, can't recall his surname) "Bookie" to his friends, or "Mr Bookie" to my little brother. It was he who told me the story
behind the big plaque from the bomb disposal team that had jumped into the sea in 1972. Memory is a strange beast - thirty some
years on I can remember that he drank Johnnie Walker Black Label with THREE lumps of ice.

Robin Bowie.  Nickname "Bookie"
ANOTHER gentleman. Would do anything to help anybody! AND, ask your Mother about her and Myra's hot toddies they fed to me!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Aug 23, 2011, 05:02 PM

Oriana and QE2 exchanging salutes.

I enjoyed the sounds of the cheerful QE2 passengers in the background, while the camera focuses steadily on Oriana passing QE2. Well filmed!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 23, 2011, 07:25 PM
A superb film - well spied, Isabelle

Curiously - the blue, white and red flag, stbd on QE2's great mast - it doesn't seem quite right for Southampton water, or does it?!
Is it a nautical 'call sign'?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Aug 23, 2011, 07:35 PM
A superb film - well spied, Isabelle

Curiously - the blue, white and red flag, stbd on QE2's great mast - it doesn't seem quite right for Southampton water, or does it?!
Is it a nautical 'call sign'?

Fantastic!  When I see things like this, I still find it hard to accept that she's gone.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Andy F on Aug 23, 2011, 07:43 PM
Curiously - the blue, white and red flag, stbd on QE2's great mast - it doesn't seem quite right for Southampton water, or does it?!
Is it a nautical 'call sign'?

Looks like the French tricolore to me but quite why it would be flying while alongside in Soton is beyond me  ???
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Andrew Collier on Aug 24, 2011, 12:25 AM
Great video but it's deffinatly the French tricolour, I'm sure there is no other nautical use for the flag, I don't know but I suggest that part of the clip isn't filmed in Soton at all but added seperatly to the video, just a thought....
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Aug 24, 2011, 07:00 AM
That is the French flag which means the ship is in a french port, it can only be like Andy says two clips in one.Great video though.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Andy F on Aug 30, 2011, 11:31 PM
I have to agree Andy C and Louis as there is no nautical flag to my knowledge with that combination (just goes to show that things are not always quite as they seem!). 

Returning to the whistle, we were indeed treated to many an extended blast during her final 18mnths in service but whenever it went on for any length of time, it's resonating sound was not unlike a didgeridoo I always thought.  Listen again and see what you think... 
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 06, 2012, 03:20 PM
QE2's Whistle Blowing and Blowing Passing Northumbrian Quay 17 Sept 2007

Thanks to magwaus
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Barrie Evans on Feb 06, 2012, 04:48 PM
Hi Rosie, Did you know that the  Q E 2  has three whistles,  audible  for ranges of up to 2 miles. !  On the mast there is one air whistle and one electric whistle,  used for making sound signals when the ship is manoevring. There is also one on the foredeck for use when the ship is in restricted visibility ( this whistle being sounded every 2 minuets by an automatic timer).  As you know all whistles are tested at noon each day. It always used to make me jump out of my skin, when we were having a drink at the funnel bar. ;D
Barrie
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 06, 2012, 05:45 PM
Hi Barrie - Thank you!
I did know :)
Strictly speaking - she has two whistles and a fog horn!
(It was the latter that caused one or two unsuspecting guests in the Grand Suites to have sleepless nights whilst she courageously made her way as she passed the Grand Banks off Newfoundland!)
You'll find lots more here about her great Whistles if you start on the link below to the first page of this topic:
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.0.html
Rosie


 
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Barrie Evans on Feb 06, 2012, 09:19 PM
Hi Barrie - Thank you!
I did know :)
Strictly speaking - she has two whistles and a fog horn!
(It was the latter that caused one or two unsuspecting guests in the Grand Suites to have sleepless nights whilst she courageously made her way as she passed the Grand Banks off Newfoundland!)
You'll find lots more here about her great Whistles if you start on the link below to the first page of this topic:
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.0.html
Rosie


 
Hi Rosie,Thanks for the link for the Q E 2 whistle. It made very interesting reading. I noticed on one of your posts that it quoted on November 2nd 2008 , that the Q E 2 was in The "Pool"on her final visit.  I know on that date, she actually was in the port of Messina, Sicily
Barrie
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rod on Feb 06, 2012, 10:32 PM
Actually, ALL the whistles could be set off automatically, or manually. Turn the switch on the bridge to what you want to blow then push the button or set it for timed!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 06, 2012, 10:41 PM
Actually, ALL the whistles could be set off automatically, or manually. Turn the switch on the bridge to what you want to blow then push the button or set it for timed!

Might this be the switch here?
Ok, admit it!

Put your hand up those who have deafened everyone on deck by pushing this button (top right)

Just give me time to find my ear muffs first.

Cheers

Skilly

There a photo on Skilly's post - bit like an egg-timer!
That's so cool. 8)



Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rod on Apr 20, 2012, 12:03 AM
One thing I never did was blow the whistle. Repaired it many times...but never blew it!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Disco747 on Jun 17, 2012, 06:18 PM
I miss the wonderful deep throbbing bass blast of QE2's whistles! QE2 has the most awesome whistle sound of any ship!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jul 07, 2012, 11:54 PM
Great picture of her foghorn here in 1985 -- and some human figures to show off its impressive size!


And here, the approach to New York, with the twin towers looming ahead :


With thanks to paul8622.

Photos no longer available on the link
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Peter Mugridge on Jul 07, 2012, 11:58 PM
Very impressive, yes - though I must say from that angle the appearance reminds me of the "Hoot" from "The Clangers"! ;D
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Adam Hodson on Apr 28, 2014, 04:23 PM
Very interesting pictures. The people show you just how big that foghorn is! It would be great to see people stood next to the tyfons to see how huge they are!
Title: Horn and Whistle
Post by: Bob van Leeuwen on Aug 21, 2015, 10:15 PM
This might seen to be a strange topic, but I could not find a satisfactory answer on Google, what is precisely the difference between a horn and a whistle? Ore are they the same?


Bob
Title: Re: Horn and Whistle
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Aug 21, 2015, 10:47 PM
Have a look here, Bob :

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.msg11318.html#msg11318

-- and indeed you might find the entire topic fascinating!
Title: Re: Horn and Whistle
Post by: Twynkle on Aug 21, 2015, 11:31 PM
Hi Bob

Hope you will enjoy the posts on this topic.
It's one of the best!

A car has a horn, and ship has a whistle :)
Or - the horn is for land, the whistle for sea!
As jungle James mentions here
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,148.msg13898.html#msg13898

Good listening!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Bob van Leeuwen on Aug 27, 2015, 08:28 PM
Thank you so much for the replies, sadly I didn't have time to read it as thorough as I have wanted to do before, a lot of school work this week. But I just made the time right now to read it, and the link provided answered  my question, again thank you so much :)
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: June Ingram on Apr 21, 2016, 06:42 PM
What maintenance and/or repair would need to be done to QE2's whistle for it to function well again ?  And what would need to be done to operate her whistle off of shore power ?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: skilly56 on Apr 22, 2016, 10:40 AM
This might seen to be a strange topic, but I could not find a satisfactory answer on Google, what is precisely the difference between a horn and a whistle? Are are they the same?

Answer - Basically, a ship's horn forces compressed air through a hole in a diaphragm and makes it vibrate at a particular resonant frequency, thus creating sound waves that we hear (except for some of us silly buggers that have stood in front of too many horns, and are now deaf!).
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_horn

A whistle passes high pressure steam or air out of a square orifice cut into a tuned tube (a bit like blowing down into a straw or pipe,but much more powerful). A whistle can also be created by a pea spinning around inside a little drum with a square opening on top. By blowing through the little drum, we are passing air under pressure out the little square orifice on top, and the pea makes it resonate. Think rugby referee!

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_whistle

Maintenance would involve stripping & overhauling the compressor, cleaning the diaphragms, checking for cracks, & reassembling with new joints.
Some ship's horns are run from the engine starting air or auxiliary system air receivers, and some are self-contained with the motor, air compressor, & horn in the one unit.
To run on shore power the compressor motor voltage must be compatible with the shore power voltage as supplied, whatever the configuration of the horn.

Skilly
Title: Re: Horn and Whistle
Post by: Twynkle on Apr 22, 2016, 12:57 PM
Thanks so much, Skilly
As a matter of interest - can the Fog-Horn be varied in length of blast as well as the frequency that it sounds - is this a legal maritime requirement?
Is it regulated and set from the Bridge, or do the mechanics happen down in with the ECR etc?

(Hoping the topic here is OK?)
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: June Ingram on Apr 22, 2016, 01:45 PM
Thanks, Skilly, for all of this information.  So, conceivably, QE2's whistle (horn) could be sounded from shore power if configured correctly.  I wonder if those is Dubai would consider doing that.

Very good point and question, Rosie.  I too would be interested in learning about the fog horn and its operation and regulations for use.

June   :)
Title: Re: Horn and Whistle
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Nov 12, 2017, 06:48 PM
Thanks so much, Skilly
As a matter of interest - can the Fog-Horn be varied in length of blast as well as the frequency that it sounds - is this a legal maritime requirement?
Is it regulated and set from the Bridge, or do the mechanics happen down in with the ECR etc?

(Hoping the topic here is OK?)

I know I'm digging up an old topic but the fog horn could be changed in frequency of sounding on the Bridge with no involvement from the ECR as visible in Rob's photo from his Flickr and almost visible in my photo from July 2008 (second photo).

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7049/6925458158_3cf83cd9b2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/bxYMr1)The controls for QE2's mighty whistles (https://flic.kr/p/bxYMr1) by Rob Lightbody (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightbody/), on Flickr

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4378/23493952948_36cf9c7b8f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BN5DGh)QE2 Mediterranean cruise, July 2008 (my last trip on QE2) (https://flic.kr/p/BN5DGh) by Thomas Hypher (https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashypher/), on Flickr

On another note (see what I did there  ;) ) QE2's signal mast horns appear to be of the D and D# (sharp) notes respectively from my research (non scientific with my MIDI keyboard playing at a similar octave through my Hi-Fi speakers).

Thomas
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: trevorc on Nov 13, 2017, 01:07 AM
Am I the only one who really just REALLY wants to press a button and hear the horns?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Nov 13, 2017, 12:35 PM
Am I the only one who really just REALLY wants to press a button and hear the horns?

Haha no, I would have and do want to!
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Pete Hamill on Nov 14, 2017, 12:56 PM
Other than at the noon tests, I believe, as shown in the photo, the switch was left at the "both" setting meaning that when  the button was pressed, the air and electric whistle/ horns sounded together and being slightly different frequencies gave rise to the characteristic beat frequency we all came to enjoy.
Title: Installation of the Bow Fog Horn
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Jan 10, 2018, 05:04 AM
Hello Everyone,

It has just occurred to me despite studying QE2 quite closely since a young child, that she didn't have a bow mounted fog horn when completed in 1969. I seem to recall reading on this forum that it was fitted due to complaints from passengers in the penthouses caused by the main horns having to be used as fog horns prior to the retrofitting. I was wondering when the original bow foghorn was installed (seems to have been around 1977 from studying photos)?, noting that it occupies some of the space that was taken up by the bow anchor until it was lost in a severe North Atlantic storm sometime in the 1970s (when?).

I am aware that the small mast like structure the foghorn sits on was ripped from the deck by the September 1995 freak wave/s but remained onboard (by some miracle it seems!) and was put back in place. However, the dark painted, round shaped original fog horn seems to have subsequently been replaced by today's vertically orientated rectangular shaped fog horn during her mid 1996 (last) KGV drydocking which repaired the foredeck damage caused the previous September?

Would anyone have any further details/information on my above questions and statements?

Thank you, and please excuse my thoroughness and lack of conciseness!

Thomas
Title: Re: Installation of the Bow Fog Horn
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jan 10, 2018, 12:02 PM
Hello Thomas, there are some good photos of the bow foghorn on the Foredeck Layout topic (https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,2074.msg22727.html#msg22727)

See photo of the foghorn posted by Chris in reply 5 https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,2074.msg22732.html#msg22732

Captain Martini asks what happened to the original tall foredeck mast that was probably replaced by the Foghorn and he thinks it was post 1977 after the addition of suites.   https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,2074.msg76417.html#msg76417

Title: Re: Installation of the Bow Fog Horn
Post by: Lynda Bradford on Jan 10, 2018, 02:46 PM

Hello Everyone,

It has just occurred to me despite studying QE2 quite closely since a young child, that she didn't have a bow mounted fog horn when completed in 1969. I seem to recall reading on this forum that it was fitted due to complaints from passengers in the penthouses caused by the main horns having to be used as fog horns prior to the retrofitting. I was wondering when the original bow foghorn was installed (seems to have been around 1977 from studying photos)?, noting that it occupies some of the space that was taken up by the bow anchor until it was lost in a severe North Atlantic storm sometime in the 1970s (when?).

I am aware that the small mast like structure the foghorn sits on was ripped from the deck by the September 1995 freak wave/s but remained onboard (by some miracle it seems!) and was put back in place. However, the dark painted, round shaped original fog horn seems to have subsequently been replaced by today's vertically orientated rectangular shaped fog horn during her mid 1996 (last) KGV drydocking which repaired the foredeck damage caused the previous September?

Would anyone have any further details/information on my above questions and statements?

Thank you, and please excuse my thoroughness and lack of conciseness!

Thomas

I still cannot find a date when "the foghorn" was installed, although around the time of the penthouse installations is a reasonable estimate.   

The QE2 Whistles has some interesting discussions and mention is made of the foghorn:

Chris Casino mentioned "The Foghorn on the fore-deck was installed to reduce the noise levels in the penthouse cabins."
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.msg12849.html#msg12849

Wonderful photo from Isabelle in the QE2 Whistles topic
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,206.msg47548.html#msg47548
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: pete cain on Jan 10, 2018, 07:19 PM
just so love the bakelite switches, on the control panel, they must have so much to tell
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Jan 10, 2018, 08:39 PM
From some Google images research of her in the 1970s, the fog horn appears to have only been added after her 1977 Bayonne refit with the addition of the grand suites (Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth). But after she lost her bow anchor (whenever that was in the late 1970s).
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Jan 10, 2018, 08:42 PM
just so love the bakelite switches, on the control panel, they must have so much to tell

Indeed! It was very interesting to see her original bridge equipment working side by side with modern "2000s" era equipment that had been retrofitted. She was a hybrid in many, many ways, and still is in a lot of ways.
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Jan 10, 2018, 08:50 PM
Other than at the noon tests, I believe, as shown in the photo, the switch was left at the "both" setting meaning that when  the button was pressed, the air and electric whistle/ horns sounded together and being slightly different frequencies gave rise to the characteristic beat frequency we all came to enjoy.

In a couple of videos from her last tandem (with QM2 - I was on QM2) in October 2008 there is a slight delay in both main horns sounding, a split second where you hear only one and then the familiar beat frequency starts. Heard onboard her and QM2. This was despite both being set to sound.

I am unsure where the fog horn's controls are as the original control panel does not seem to include it (for obvious reason)?
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: June Ingram on Feb 19, 2019, 12:07 AM
QE2's Whistle Blowing and Blowing Passing Northumbrian Quay 17 Sept 2007

Thanks to magwaus

Rob mentioned QE2's whistle in his trip to the Ocean Liner Exhibit.  Listen and enjoy, courtesy of Rosie.  :)
Title: Re: QE2 Funnel - and Whistle...
Post by: PJtheMuppet on Feb 21, 2019, 09:47 PM

QE2 sounding her horn before leaving Rotterdam in 2007. Probably one of the few videos where I actually shut up and didn't add any smart alec comments to. I do admit I was waiting for Queen Victoria to 'reply' but sadly I didn't hear anything.

Another slightly off topic question, does anyone use the recording of the whistle for their phone ring tones or anything? I use a recording of the whistle for my Skype ring tone - shocks me every time someone calls. And also as the alarm tone on my iPod. The whistle is the perfect way to get me out of bed. Only because it shocks me and then I can't get back to sleep.

I used to have it on my old phone but lost it when I changed to an Apple mobile :(
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rod on Feb 22, 2019, 12:16 AM
Trying to find a suitable ring tone to download. Lost the old one when I changed comps, have also changed phones since this was a topic on here. So with my new, to me at least, phone, I might actually be able to use it.
Title: Re: Get your QE2 Horn fix here...
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 01, 2019, 06:42 PM
Further up in this topic, Rosie draws attention to a QE2 whistle ringtone :

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/search/3842159.Get_your_free_QE2_ringtone_for_your_mobile_phone_/

We have had a request in connection with this ringtone offered by the Southampton Echo, since it seems to have disappeared...

Our member John Spofford, writes this :

Quote from: John Spofford
The Southampton Echo, the local newspaper in QE2’s former home port, printed a link, since removed, of a ring-tone of the whistle of QE2. It was downloadable for free, and a great addition/replacement for the dreary selection of ringtones on mobiles.
I have looked through the “Whistle” topic and only find You Tube clips that have a lot of extraneous noise on them, unsuitable for such an important ring-tone.
I thought with the clout of your Forum, you might be able to get it from the newspaper. Certainly worth a try, I should think.

Clout of our Forum... ;D ... that sounds nice... but it's a challenge...

Is anyone here on friendly terms with the Southampton Echo and can ask them to give us back our QE2 whistle?

I notice that the audio in Rob's original QE2 website also seems to have gone...
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Rod on Mar 01, 2019, 10:45 PM
MP3# any use,
 Thanks to Skilly
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 01, 2019, 10:54 PM
MP3# any use,
 Thanks to Skilly

Wow! Thank you, Rod and Skilly!

I hope that John with enjoy it :) .
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: skilly56 on Mar 03, 2019, 02:34 AM
A few years ago when I was working in the West Australian oil & gas industry we did a crew change in Dampier. We then had a couple of hours to wait in the Karratha airport terminal - must have been bored - we all downloaded the QE2 ringtone, set our phone alarms, and watched the confusion amongst the other pax as QE2's whistle started going off all around the little terminal. Memories!

I still have it as my alarm & ringtone - a nice loud deep note that I can hear above (or below) all other noises!

Skilly
Title: Re: QE2 Whistles
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Mar 03, 2019, 06:23 AM
Thank you for the chuckle, Skilly -- I'd love to have been there!