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Title: QE2's Clocks
Post by: cunardqueen on Jan 13, 2010, 07:36 PM
On the Final Atlantic :'( crossing during dinner it came up in conversation about the ships clocks. Our host that night admitted he actually had  a broken one in his ownership :o. All my charm and wit was wasted trying to find out how one might be obtained legally.

 Sadly it way annoying to see some of clocks had markings to indicate attempts to remove them had failed, the host did mention that all the spares had been used up and they are actually wired in which makes removing then dangerous. Not to mention in recent months the clocks had been firmly screwed onto the walls.

Personally l found the idea to remove actual fittings from QE2 was dispicable. Its one thing to take a side plate, but to remove the fixings is to remove part of her soul.
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Title: Clock
Post by: highlander0108 on Jan 13, 2010, 10:37 PM
On the Final Atlantic :'( crossing during dinner it came up in conversation about the ships clocks. Our host that night admitted he actually had  a broken one in his ownership :o. All my charm and wit was wasted trying to find out how one might be obtained legally.

 Sadly it way annoying to see some of clocks had markings to indicate attempts to remove them had failed, the host did mention that all the spares had been used up and they are actually wired in which makes removing then dangerous. Not to mention in recent months the clocks had been firmly screwed onto the walls.

Personally l found the idea to remove actual fittings from QE2 was dispicable. Its one thing to take a side plate, but to remove the fixings is to remove part of her soul.
 

We were chatting last night about this clock and although we joked about it, I can't believe someone actually tried to unbolt it..  I think they should sell them in the gift shops onboard.  I probably could make one for myself though using an off the shelf battery operated clock as a base.
Title: Clock
Post by: richc1977 on Jan 13, 2010, 11:07 PM
Those clocks were also on A Stairway, but did anyone venture down to 5 deck on G-Stairway?

A rather modern digital clock (reminds me of those LED display things in banks, post offices and doctors surgeries).

I attach a screendump from my website virtual tour as I can't find the original for now.  And yes the time is 05:49am.  I must have been mad as I'd already been up over an hour taking pictures by that point!

Maybe the original was taken?  Or does anyone know that it has been there for a while?
Title: Clock
Post by: cunardqueen on Jan 14, 2010, 05:42 PM
I can only imagine those LED clocks were put in place to cover up the space left behind when a clock was stolen or damaged.
Title: Clock
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 14, 2010, 06:01 PM
On QM1 & QE1, the clocks were all connected to a central control, so they could all be advanced/retarted at the same time.  Did QE2 have this too, originally?  She had those mechanical-digital clocks originally, didn't she?
Title: Clock
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 14, 2010, 09:40 PM
A rather modern digital clock (reminds me of those LED display things in banks, post offices and doctors surgeries).
Maybe the original was taken?  Or does anyone know that it has been there for a while?

I never saw one of the round QE2 clocks at a lift in this sort of position. I wonder whether this was one of the original digital clocks mentioned by Rob?

On QM1 & QE1, the clocks were all connected to a central control, so they could all be advanced/retarded at the same time.  Did QE2 have this too, originally?

That might be the answer to my unspoken question! Even though I was always a night owl on QE2, wandering round the ship when most others were well tucked up in bed, never once did I see anyone doing the rounds to change the clocks to the next day's ship time. If the clocks were all wired up, as Myles writes here, then presumably they could be reset in this way...

Hopefully, we shall find out!
Title: Clock
Post by: cunardqueen on Jan 14, 2010, 09:40 PM
I cant imagine in this day and age a person going round changing the clocks at every time change. Surely this would have been done automatically, Besides has anyone ever noticed the clocks changing in the small hours. In my early days the clocks were advanced/retarded at 4am

One such crossing with an afternoon arrival in Southampton the clock were advanced 2 hours at l think 1pm, l do recall feeling so cheated out of the time.
Title: Clock
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 14, 2010, 09:51 PM

The clocks are central controled.

Louis
Title: Clock
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 14, 2010, 09:54 PM
The clocks are central controled.
Louis
So I presume that means that all the stolen QE2 clocks in people's homes will not operate?
Title: Clock
Post by: cunardqueen on Jan 15, 2010, 08:51 PM
NOT that lm an expert in that matter, But surely the insides could be removed and one of those modern battery operated systems could be inserted.
Title: Clock
Post by: Jem on Jan 15, 2010, 11:32 PM
As a horologist,(retired due to ill health) in factorys, bus/train stations and I assume ships. There was a Master clock and attached to this mechinisum all the other clocks were connected known as Slaves. The Master clock governed the accuracy of all the Slaves. By adjusting the Master clocks time all the others would alter at the same time. Which is why you'd never see anyone manually adjusting the others. The Slaves could operate on there own provided they had a power source but their accuracy could not be governed.

I have an old Ships Bulkhead Clock I bought at auction a number of years ago, which I repaired, and I often find myself looking at it and thinking 'Where have you travelled in your 100 years?'
Title: Clock
Post by: Jem on Jan 15, 2010, 11:38 PM
NOT that lm an expert in that matter, But surely the insides could be removed and one of those modern battery operated systems could be inserted.
Yes that is possible, it's called retro-fitting. I'm from the old 'Horology School' once and old clock has lost it's original machinical mechinsm and been fitted with a Quartz govement, it's lost it's soul.
Title: Clock
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 19, 2010, 08:59 PM
One of the original mechanical-digital clocks can be seen in Bob's photo here -

https://www.flickr.com/photos/33120597@N03/3451256117/

(you can zoom in if you log in - its 9:52!)
Title: Clock
Post by: Chris Frame on Jan 20, 2010, 10:18 AM
On the Final Atlantic :'( crossing during dinner it came up in conversation about the ships clocks. Our host that night admitted he actually had  a broken one in his ownership :o. All my charm and wit was wasted trying to find out how one might be obtained legally.

 Sadly it way annoying to see some of clocks had markings to indicate attempts to remove them had failed, the host did mention that all the spares had been used up and they are actually wired in which makes removing then dangerous. Not to mention in recent months the clocks had been firmly screwed onto the walls.

Personally l found the idea to remove actual fittings from QE2 was dispicable. Its one thing to take a side plate, but to remove the fixings is to remove part of her soul.
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These clocks in your photograph were added during "Project Lifestyle" - you can clearly see the tri-colour speed stripe under the lettering... fantastic shot!
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 01, 2010, 11:41 PM
And from another topic - there's an image of the dot-matrix clock on Deck 4,  E Stairway, beside the lift doors.
Is this clock a recent addition?
Reply No. 3
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,575.msg6355.html#msg6355
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: highlander0108 on Feb 02, 2010, 01:52 AM
And from another topic - there's an image of the dot-matrix clock on Deck 4,  E Stairway, beside the lift doors.
Is this clock a recent addition?
Reply No. 3
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,575.msg6355.html#msg6355


Notice the time?  Returning from the Lido with a little snack!  ;D
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: cunardqueen on Feb 02, 2010, 08:24 AM
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Notice the time?  Returning from the Lido with a little snack! 

And here was me thinking it was for Ryan, I might have known better ;) did he do the washing up.....  :)
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 02, 2010, 09:16 AM
Speaking of clocks...

Was anyone else aboard when ship's time was kept during a port day?

We had sailed to the east - the port was an hour ahead.
It all became rather confusing...
Then we set off in a westerly direction... :)
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: cunardqueen on Feb 02, 2010, 03:04 PM
I wonder if anyone was onhere that crossed the International Date line, that must have been really confussing

Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 02, 2010, 03:29 PM
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I wonder if anyone was onhere that crossed the International Date line, that must have been really confussing
About crossing the Equator...
If you want to join in - It's here Myles!
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,151.0.html
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Bob C. on Feb 02, 2010, 06:41 PM
I went through my '69 and '70's photos last night and found there are clocks in many of them.  I think I will crop group and post a "QE2 clock collection" on FLICKR.  Just need to find some time to do it.
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Imonlygoingforone on Feb 11, 2010, 09:49 AM
The 'logo' clocks were controlled by the 'master' clock, which was in an electrical locker on the Bridge.

An interesting technique was used, in which a bent paper clip had to be pushed into a hole to allow the clock to be set. (true!)
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: cunardqueen on Feb 11, 2010, 10:02 AM
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I went through my '69 and '70's photos last night and found there are clocks in many of them.  I think I will crop group and post a "QE2 clock collection" on FLICKR.  Just need to find some time to do it.

Guess you can do this when you have time on your hands........ :D
(note to moderator, please feel free to delete this very feeble attempt at a joke)
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Twynkle on Feb 11, 2010, 10:50 AM
The 'logo' clocks were controlled by the 'master' clock, which was in an electrical locker on the Bridge.

An interesting technique was used, in which a bent paper clip had to be pushed into a hole to allow the clock to be set. (true!)

Hello!

Thinking about Time - with hours going forwards, backwards etc,
ship's time and shore time, all in connection with hours on and off Watch
 - setting alarm-clocks, mealtimes etc,

Then about  getting out of 'sync', both practically and physically
Was there a 'routine' or something else  that was necessary,
to help people to adjust to this and these?
Or - was  it just Time itself?!

Rosie.






Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Bob C. on Feb 11, 2010, 05:49 PM
Guess you can do this when you have time on your hands........ :D
(note to moderator, please feel free to delete this very feeble attempt at a joke)

(rimshot...)

Rob, help!!!  Please!!! 
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Jem on Feb 11, 2010, 08:27 PM
Guess you can do this when you have time on your hands........ :D
(note to moderator, please feel free to delete this very feeble attempt at a joke)

'Just a Minute Myles. Your really Winding us up here with that joke. It's about Time this sort of thing stopped. I think you need to Toc to someone about it. I feel like a coiled Spring ready to Strike. I think it's about Time I stop now, I feel over Wound as it is!' ;D ;D
(You would not believe the number of clock related ones I've heard over the years while in the trade)
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: cunardqueen on Feb 11, 2010, 09:35 PM
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You would not believe the number of clock related ones I've heard over the years while in the trade
Was this a second hand post then.... :P Ok no more from me on this, we will have the moderators giving us a ticking off
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jun 21, 2010, 09:27 PM
I've just found the answer to my question...

QE2 originally had 240 clocks, all controlled by a "GENT of LEICESTER" Master Clock System.  Gent also supplied cabin/service call systems and fire alarm points for QE2 and her 2 predecessors.
Title: Re: QE2's Clocks
Post by: Jem on Jun 22, 2010, 03:42 AM
Thanks for that information Rob. Hope you all have a great forum get together at the weekend. :)