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Title: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Cruise_Princess on Jan 08, 2010, 10:55 AM
Just wondered if anyone has done this on board Qe2?  I used to spend hours watching folks doing this  mid atlantic but was never brave enough to do it myself....and somehow never ever took a photo!!  Does anyone have any memories of this?.  something of the past ...dont think its done an ANY ship now....health and safety!
Title: Re: Clay Shoooting off Qe2 stern
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 08, 2010, 11:05 AM

Yes the clay shooting ( better know as Laser Skeet Shooting ) i forgot all about that 10 shoots for 5 dollars i think it was, i did once have i go on it though i missed all the shots lol  :)

Louis

Title: Re: Clay Shoooting off Qe2 stern
Post by: Bob C. on Jan 08, 2010, 06:20 PM
My dad did it (I was too young).  It wasn't always off the stern either.  For a while in the mid-70's it was on the Boat Deck, port side, just aft of the last lifeboat.  I'll dig around my pictures to see if I have one - pretty sure I do. 
Title: Re: Clay Shoooting off Qe2 stern
Post by: Louis De Sousa on Jan 08, 2010, 06:28 PM

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It wasn't always off the stern either.


I done it on One Deck Aft before the aft end where the Liferafts were added.

Louis
Title: Re: Clay Shoooting off Qe2 stern
Post by: jdl on Jan 21, 2010, 11:05 PM
I remember hhis from my TA in the 90's, sadly at 14 I was far too young to participate  darn it !

Jdl
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: QE2lover on Mar 07, 2010, 04:02 AM
My brother used to do it on every cruise...
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: odkbull on Aug 09, 2010, 03:44 AM
I was one of the staff who ran this activity. We had on gent who owned Bacardi Rum who used to love doing it daily on the World Cruise....even in the roughest of seas.
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Bob C. on Aug 09, 2010, 02:16 PM
I was one of the staff who ran this activity. We had on gent who owned Bacardi Rum who used to love doing it daily on the World Cruise....even in the roughest of seas.

Always a pleasure to see the crew side of our experiences.  Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Jan 23, 2011, 11:56 AM
For those with access to Facebook, there is a photo of the clay pigeon shooting here :

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=248066365199&set=a.94180225199.106980.734265199
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Bob C. on Jan 27, 2011, 01:43 PM
This photo does not show as much as I hoped.  This is my dad shooting in the summer of 1977 when the clay pigeon shooting was located port side, aft on the Boat Deck.
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Rod on Oct 15, 2011, 11:23 PM
This was something that a lot of the crew could never understand after security was tightened in the early 70's.
Mail was being x-rayed, as was baggage. This led to the confiscation of many weapons, later returned, from pax, mostly US Forces returning from Europe.

Then you give a passenger a loaded 12 gauge and say here you go!  Anyone say hostage?
Title: QE2's Stern
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 19, 2014, 08:00 AM
There is an interesting image that's been posted on Cunard Critic's page on Facebook (thanks to Kurt Pelkey) - it shows two tallish pairs of upright metal(?) sheets (plus more equipment) either side of the stern jack staff.
If you can see them - were these used for clay pigeon shooting?
Hopefully the poster on FB will post the image here too!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/101210723328587/?fref=nf
Title: Re: QE2's Stern
Post by: Clydebuilt1971 on Dec 19, 2014, 10:29 AM
The only structures I can see either side of the staff are the small cranes used for the deployment of the life rafts? (At least I assume that's what they're for)

Gav
Title: Re: QE2's Stern
Post by: riskygizmo on Dec 19, 2014, 11:18 AM
http://stock-footage.org/footage/qe2-1982-world-cruise-skeet-thrower-medium-close-up-011157463
Title: Re: QE2's Stern
Post by: Alan Snelson on Dec 19, 2014, 04:41 PM
Good to hear from you Riskygizmo. The clip you found is indeed skeet shooting of the stern of QE2. With a quick glimpse of Ernie Dougherty from the cruise staff.
Title: Re: QE2's Stern
Post by: Rod on Dec 20, 2014, 10:25 AM
Good to hear from you Riskygizmo. The clip you found is indeed skeet shooting of the stern of QE2. With a quick glimpse of Ernie Dougherty from the cruise staff.

Ernie...or Bob?
Title: Re: QE2's Stern
Post by: Alan Snelson on Dec 20, 2014, 11:44 AM
Pretty sure that was Ernie. They both married two sisters who worked as PRS, the one Bob married was a former girlfriend of mine.
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Isabelle Prondzynski on Dec 21, 2014, 12:34 PM
Could anyone put a period on the clay pigeon shooting? From when to when was this going on?

And where geographically? I cannot imagine this happening when cruising along the Norwegian coast, for instance...
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Alan Snelson on Dec 21, 2014, 12:54 PM
I can't be certain but I think it started around 1980, which would have been when the New York Cunard operations started to take hold. Obviously an open water activity and weather permitting. I think it was available on Transatlantics though mainly intended as a cruising activity. As for how long it continued I don't know.

I do recall there being complaints from passengers using the sun loungers regarding the noise but evidently not enough for it to have any impact. If memory serves me correctly it was only available for a limited time during the day, either early morning or late afternoon.
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shoooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Twynkle on Dec 21, 2014, 01:16 PM
Could anyone put a period on the clay pigeon shooting? From when to when was this going on?

And where geographically? I cannot imagine this happening when cruising along the Norwegian coast, for instance...

The photo posted on facebook (see link above) was taken in 1984
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Rod on Dec 21, 2014, 10:07 PM
It was going in 1972! Twice/day weather permitting. I believe it was stopped for quite a while then started up again.
Lets face it, what was the point of x-raying baggage, then giving a loaded gun to a terrorist with a deck full of people!
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Bob C. on Dec 26, 2014, 09:01 PM
Here's one from July 1977.  Note that this is not on the stern (1 Deck, aft).  This location was at the aft end of the Boat Deck on the port side.  Although I do not have a photo of it, I believe this moved to 1 Deck aft  at some point between this photo and the next time we crossed in 1979.  The gentleman shooting in the photo is my dad.

Title: not really a new topic
Post by: pete cain on Jan 06, 2019, 06:04 PM
But couldn't find a slot for it in existing posts.
  Always looking for bits & bobs I can scratch make for my model, I came across this, it's extracted from Google
images & as such might  cause Copyright probs,      so Mods please delete  out if needs be but.
  What on earth are the 2 H constructions mounted alongside the Aft railings, never noticed them before ?
Title: Re: not really a new topic
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 06, 2019, 06:15 PM
Clay pigeon shooting stations!
Title: Re: not really a new topic
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Jan 06, 2019, 06:16 PM
They were for clay pigeon shooting.
Title: Re: not really a new topic
Post by: Michael Gallagher on Jan 06, 2019, 06:22 PM
From the 1987 brochure...
Title: Re: not really a new topic
Post by: pete cain on Jan 06, 2019, 07:03 PM
Thanks gents, there's me thinking shower units or some such..
Title: Re: not really a new topic
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 06, 2019, 07:09 PM
18 minutes for Michael to retrieve the perfect photo :-)
Title: Re: not really a new topic
Post by: Rod on Jan 06, 2019, 11:11 PM
When I first joined, they were up on the Boat Deck.
What amazed a lot of us on board was that there we were x-raying baggage etc to stop weapons coming on board and for $5, Cunard would give you a shotgun loaded with 5 rounds and a deck full of women and children to take hostage!
Can't remember when the clay pigeon shooting stopped, but it wasn't until much later!
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: pete cain on Jan 08, 2019, 04:33 PM
 Look what turns up when you least expect it,   hope this works , page11, 3rd video from end.
https://stock-clip.com/video-footage/qe2/11         
lots of short clips on here well worth a look if not seen before..
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: CasinoChris on Jan 09, 2019, 03:06 AM
Remember seeing Clay Shooting on the Sagafjord in 1992, my wife's aunt was so good that all the pax were calling her Annie Oakley by the end of the Cruise....
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Thomas Hypher on Jan 09, 2019, 05:26 AM
Look what turns up when you least expect it,   hope this works , page11, 3rd video from end.
https://stock-clip.com/video-footage/qe2/11         
lots of short clips on here well worth a look if not seen before..

Just before the Falklands by the looks of it.
Title: Re: not really a new topic
Post by: Rob Lightbody on Jan 12, 2019, 03:55 PM
What amazed a lot of us on board was that there we were x-raying baggage etc to stop weapons coming on board and for $5, Cunard would give you a shotgun loaded with 5 rounds and a deck full of women and children to take hostage!

Its pretty amazing when you think about it, yes.  They could just have chosen to turn around and start shooting.  I guess that's why there's always a staff member there, but still...
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Jeff Mahler on Aug 02, 2020, 01:41 AM
This was one of my favorite onboard activities. Shooting (laser) clays at the end of the afternoon at see during the world cruises. (Usually followed by drinks before going back to the cabin to get ready for diner)
That's "Willy Rodriguez" from the Bacardi Family. He used to book at least one of the penthouses for the World Cruise every year, was and solely responsible for keeping this tradition alive. This might be the last year I can remember this available.

That's me in the second position in the black hat. 1997 in the Arabian sea en route to Petra .

Trust me, everyone ordered rum.
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: CasinoChris on Aug 02, 2020, 01:42 PM
Bill Rodriguez and his wife were a lovely couple. Got to know them on the Vistafjord 1990 World Cruise
and on the 1991 QE2 Worldie. On a cruise that went to San Juan he came back from the Bacardi factory with
minature bottles that he gave out to the staff.
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Andy Holloway on Aug 02, 2020, 05:27 PM
Bill Rodriguez and his wife were a lovely couple. Got to know them on the Vistafjord 1990 World Cruise
and on the 1991 QE2 Worldie. On a cruise that went to San Juan he came back from the Bacardi factory with
minature bottles that he gave out to the staff.
Was/is he any relation to the Barcardi man, George ??? and his wife Esmerelda, who were friends of Mr & Mrs Rosenberg and were fairly regular WC passengers?
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: Jeff Mahler on Aug 02, 2020, 09:43 PM
Likely, They would sometimes book other family along.
The Rosenberg's were also regulars in the shooting croud.

While they and the Rodriguez's were friendly,  there was a bit of competition between the two, as to who was the "bigger shot". I remember them both in a bidding war during the WC Country Fair Auction. Neither really wanted the item. They just wanted to (for charity) out bid one another.
Title: Re: Clay Pigeon Shooting off QE2's stern
Post by: CasinoChris on Aug 03, 2020, 12:39 PM
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Was/is he any relation to the Barcardi man
Mrs Rodriguez was one of the Bacardi family daughters. Bill escaped from Casto's cuba.....